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CHEWY
23-06-2003, 05:17 PM
im thinking of maybe getting a trials bike.... ive found a Rhino mod for 390 or a rhino stock for 550 and was just wondering which do u think is gonna be the best to learn on?
had a funny experence the other day, when i had my planet X set up full trials style i could just pedal kick maybe a foot at a time. on the weekend i had a go of a Rhino mod and *BANG* kick-hop, kick-hop, kick-hop, gapping like a meter per hop, i'd say get a mod and some maguras to learn on, i reckon you'll pick up skills faster and you'll be able to take over 26 inch bike when you get more cash.
i'm sure a proper trials rider should be able to help you out better.
CHEWY
23-06-2003, 05:25 PM
ok thanks Ty. what did u think of the Rhino?
it was pretty sick, i had some issues bunny hopping it coz i'm not use to a mod geometry but i reckon i'd get used to it really fast.
skillz
23-06-2003, 08:22 PM
where u getting your prices from? cos they look good..
i diddnt know trials bikes were that cheap were they??
The mod price is cheapish... the 26" price upper end depending on year. Keep in mind the Rhinos are definitely low end of the biketrial scene quality wise. When they first came out they were under a grand new whereas Monty etc $3000 plus. CHECK VERY CAREFULLY FOR CRACKS ON ANY RHINO!!!!!!!! BOTTOM BRKT & CHAINSTAY AREA
Bottom line is that overseas the 20" are the REAL trials bikes and 26" always USED to be for the old blokes who couldn't hack the REAL bikes anymore. This is changing now with BOTH considered real but many more 20". Australia however is very much loaded up with 26" because when people stated riding trials there were no REAL bikes being imported so guys were converting small XC frames... it just sort of stuck AND one of the benifits is you get a more friendly bike (gears, bigger, seat etc) to ride around on when not doing the boing-boing thing.
Check out www.austrials.com and post there if you're looking for bikes and bits (trials)
Cheers
CHEWY
23-06-2003, 10:39 PM
where u getting your prices from? cos they look good..
i diddnt know trials bikes were that cheap were they??
they are secondhand.... there 1200 new so yer... grip i know there the lower end frames but i just want it to learn on... have u heard of lots of broken ones is that why ur stressing to me to check for cracks?
is 390 with maguras? (i'm guessing not)
CHEWY
24-06-2003, 09:47 AM
nup... some crappy promax brakes, i can get a 99 mod for 550 with hs-33's but
it's worth saving up and getting the hs-33s,
where u getting your prices from? cos they look good..
i diddnt know trials bikes were that cheap were they??
they are secondhand.... there 1200 new so yer... grip i know there the lower end frames but i just want it to learn on... have u heard of lots of broken ones is that why ur stressing to me to check for cracks?
Hmmm... how can I put this delicately? My original advice stands... CHECK VERY CAREFULLY FOR CRACKS ON ANY RHINO!!!!!!!! BOTTOM BRKT & CHAINSTAY AREA in particular.
It's probably good advice when buying ANY second hand trials bike but put it this way... some need closer checking than others!
Having said that though the Rhino is a good enough bike to learn on, no probs, though you would never see an "Elite" rider (and not even "Sport" riders) on one to my recolection. They are a beginners bike and not up to the kind of riding needed in the higher grades/sections.
BUT if you can get it cheap enough go for it and keep in mind that if it does let go around the chainstay/bottom brkt area you're only looking at $160ish to fully repair and beef up the area.
Cheers
Hey Chewy check out this link (hope it works) to a Brissa B20 trials bike.
Brisa are waaaaay better than what you're considering and the Melbourne based importers are good guys who will always fall over themselver to help. Hope the link works!
http://www.austrials.com/messageBoard/message.asp?ID=2462
Trialsguy
26-06-2003, 06:29 PM
Hey The Rino's arent that bad, if its cheap get it.
all you have to do with a rino is get a monty or brisa stem and bar set-up (the geometry is perfect then) and a set of HS33's
The frames arent too weak, but like any trials bike they do get abused.
I think the framesets sell for about $300.00 with fork and H/S.
Turley
26-06-2003, 06:39 PM
Is it possible to get modulation in the HS33's? Just considering them for my trials bike.
Trialsguy
26-06-2003, 06:46 PM
Yeah with HS33's modulation really depends on the type of brake pads you use.
for example Plazmatics are very touchy, standard "black" pads are just plain weak, but the red "coolstop" pads are somwhere in between.
you can also adjust modulation through pad alignment, but i wouldnt recomend anything other than setting them up dead paralell to the rim (that is no toe-in or out).
Having set up maguras maybe 10,000 times specifically for trials I can tell you that for biketrials you want absolute on/off breaking i.e. fully locked or free-turning wheels. Don't use tar because it gets in everywhere, makes pads stick on more than enough to delay the release of brakes and maybe stuff up a move and the minute you get any moisture on rims you've got yourself a breaking surface akin to a polished skating rink! The hot set up for HS33's is a light grind on the rim and Monty "Milk" pads set up perfectly square to breaking surface of rim.
Cheers
Are you dedicated to learning trials, or do you just want a bike to play about on and maybe use for other stuff as well?
A mod bike makes things so much better, I bought a cro-mo monty with magura's on the cheap, but it's served me well and I love it! I'm thinking about converting my Zaskar to trials spec to see how it goes, but I don't think a mod bike can be beaten.
But then again, you have other issues, like if you wanna hit the city or whatever, it's a real bastard to ride around on.
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