Racism

[Techno Destructo]

It seems lately there has been an increase in the tendency to point the finger at a certain demographic of people, stating that they are prone to criminal behavior (in this case, stealing bikes).

Despite however you might justify your opinions and comments to yourself, painting an entire race/nationality with the same brush is RACISM.

Giving an accurate description of the person who stole your bike is acceptable, but saying that all the members of a certain community act the same WILL NOT BE TOLERATED.

All threads I see with this kind of content WILL BE DELETED AND THE POSTER WILL RECIEVE AN IMMEDIATE TEMP BAN. There will be no warning. The rules have been in place on Farkin since the beginning.

If you see someone breaking the rules of Farkin, PLEASE PM me about the post/thread/person and I will immediately look into it.

I'm not going to lock this thread, but if you do feel the need to post in it because you don't agree with what I have just said, defend your views at your peril. :evil:

Thanks.

TD

[mattc]

SANJAY is cool
lol
BOBBY AND DONGA

[Captain Blake]

Might also add, I've seen an increase in the use of the words "gay" and "fag"

[Grip]

Might also add, I've seen an increase in the use of the words "gay" and "fag"

At forum mod school we all adopted at least one pet hate... mine are the lack of effort when posting AND the use of the words GAY and FAG just to describe something the poster doesn't happen to like (or thinks is silly).

Be warned, we WILL enforce the rules. People get ONE warning via PM and if they do not reply (within 24 hrs) and make it clear that they now understand the rules and will abide by them that user is banned. Simple really.

[tanlicouz]

This is very welcomed. As i have seen with the this site becoming more and more vulgar using words that are inappropiate and words such as fuck, shit, etc.. all should be banned. The english language is full of substitutes so use them.

[Bodin]

Does anyone spot any irony in complaining about swearing on a website called "Farkin"? :rolleyes:

[nickz]

This is very welcomed. As i have seen with the this site becoming more and more vulgar using words that are inappropiate and words such as fuck, shit, etc.. all should be banned. The english language is full of substitutes so use them.

I like having shit and fuck allowed, they aren't really offensive on their own, and can be quite expressive. Fag and gay are just such silly words to use to describe people or things, a copout for people who can't express their thoughts properly. I really don't like the use of retard, it's a very unfortunate medical condition, and not a word to throw around, absolutely not funny.

So fag, gay and retard, not acceptable.

[Joel O]

So fag, gay and retard, not acceptable.
i think there is nothing wrong with using retard as long as it is used in the correct way, just the same as the word gay and pretty much any word, the big problem is using words which describe a person or group of people in a negative context.

[tu plang]

This is very welcomed. As i have seen with the this site becoming more and more vulgar using words that are inappropiate and words such as fuck, shit, etc.. all should be banned. The english language is full of substitutes so use them.

i dont like that logic. if these words are such great substitutes for fuck, shit etc. than why arent they too, offensive?

[manny24]

SANJAY is cool
lol
BOBBY AND DONGA

wtf??!!

peoples, did i miss something? look at the date of first post by Techno Destructo!!

[Grip]

wtf??!!

peoples, did i miss something? look at the date of first post by Techno Destructo!!

Doesn't matter, Manny... it's still a hot topic and good to have it surfaced again

[Rik]

Does anyone spot any irony in complaining about swearing on a website called "Farkin"? :rolleyes:There's nothing wrong with swearing, as long as it's used with restraint and in the right context.
A string of four lettered words makes not a good post, especially considering what was said above, that there are plenty of other words to use. To fall back on swearing just shows you can't find the right words to put your point accross, and if that's the case it might be better to rethink what you're trying to say.
That's my take on it anyway...

[manny24]

Doesn't matter, Manny... it's still a hot topic and good to have it surfaced again

fairy's muff, good point.

i fully agree with rik, a more tasteful and well thought out post is alot more effective then just resorting to swearing and\or racist throw-backs. if your the victim, just remember who has the stronf=ger character in the argument.

[manny24]

Doesn't matter, Manny... it's still a hot topic and good to have it surfaced again

fairy's muff, good point.

i fully agree with rik, a more tasteful and well thought out post is alot more effective then just resorting to swearing and\or racist throw-backs. if your the victim, just remember who has the stronger character in the argument.

[Dicko888]

My god you are all a bunch of softcocks. They are only words. this is what i dont get with society. there are much bigger isues out there than ofencive words and i realy feal sory for you that you cant see that!

[Bodin]

Being that words (and some pictures) are the only method of communication on a web forum, then I think it's fair that there's an emphasis on choosing them carefully. Yeah, I think some people (including myself) could benefit from being thicker-skinned, but I personally don't want to see this site become a bunch of hardcore macho piss-takers and I will always question those that take the easy way out and use abuse instead of rational debate.

I'm not being overly "politically correct" or a "softcock" - if you want a strong debate about a worthwhile topic, you'll find me a worthy adversary, but you won't find me swearing at you or bringing you down because of your race.

Peace. :cool:

[Dumbellina]

<rant>
I am glad to see the forum rules enforced, not only is it friendlier, it also means that general perception of the forum (and website) is improved.

I have contravened the rules more than once and would be happy to remove offending posts. Its not too much humble pie to do so, its not worth arguing or debating.

In respect of swear words, you hear them used in daily conversation all the time. The forum should be no different to a trailside conversation, hence my strong views on people concerned by "defamation". I think it fine to use shit, fuck, etc in postings (we are mountain bikers after all!) but there is other vulgar words, phrases, expressions that have no place here (such as racism, sexism, etc).

I like reading and posting stuff here, as do most other users. I find out lots of good information, chat about stuff in general, and reckon that many of the users here are like-minded, which makes the conversations interesting and worthwhile. I especially like that the site is not filled with Young Liberal and Young Labor wannabes filling the threads with rhetorical tripe.

So moderators, exercise your descretion wisely and appropriately (you are not the thought police) and postees, be prepared to stick to the forum rules otherwise it will degenerate into a ranting space about whose brain is smallest. </end rant>

[Grip]

My god you are all a bunch of softcocks. They are only words. this is what i dont get with society. there are much bigger isues out there than ofencive words and i realy feal sory for you that you cant see that!

Hmmm... rule 101 clearly states NO abuse of other forum members for any reason. I think we can safely say that calling us all softcocks is abusive, eh? So enjoy your little holiday away from the site and when (or if) you come back try to keep in mind that we're not actually interested in the "much bigger isues out there" because this is a MTB site NOT the UN! So we'll let the UN handle the bigger world issues and we'll stick to ours (which include ofencive (sic) words) and silly little sausages who think it's OK to be offensive and talk crap.

[Pete J]

'Only words'??
How else do people communicate?
How else does hate come to the surface so easily?

Here where i live i have heard 'only words' being used towards people of different colour. How do you think those people take being called 'FUCKING NIGGERS'?? (Or 'Vitun Neekerit' in Finnish)
I have seen this being yelled at African immigrants as they are just walking down the street minding their own business. They must cop it at least once a day. It's fucking disgraceful! Makes me embarrassed to be a Finn.
'Only words', what a stupid thing to say.

The words you use here are just as important IMO, they show the amount of respect you have for other people in general.

[spyderman_au]

I thought it was really simple? Join discussions, follow rules, enjoy.... How hard can that be? The rules for the site are simple, swearing is ok to a point but being a racist, sexist etc is not. Too simple. The moderators don't even expect us to be able to spell. I do not think they are asking too much. :)

[R33F]

susages
This gave me the giggles. :p

[hardtail_syke]

i agree with the name calling (gay fag retard and hadicap) expecially the handicap one. a mate of mine who was a ausome rider broke his neck in a bike accident and can barely move. as for just general swaring i think that we are all big boys and can handle a bit of swaring. oh yer and about my friend calling every one a soft cock, i believe that that he was just saying wat i have just said just in a worse wording

[Mahoney_007]

Cocksmokers! :D

[johnny]

My god you are all a bunch of softcocks. They are only words. this is what i dont get with society. there are much bigger isues out there than ofencive words and i realy feal sory for you that you cant see that!
Moron.

I'll ignore the obvious concerning "just words"....like MORON, and hit up another issue you've raised here.

Bigger issues eh? Maybe youll enjoy these threads a little more then fella ;)

http://forums.farkin.net/showthread.php?t=37057&highlight=politics
http://forums.farkin.net/showthread.php?t=36590&highlight=politics
http://forums.farkin.net/showthread.php?t=29398&highlight=politics
http://forums.farkin.net/showthread.php?t=35670&highlight=politics
http://forums.farkin.net/showthread.php?t=18999&highlight=politics
http://forums.farkin.net/showthread.php?t=18353&highlight=politics
http://forums.farkin.net/showthread.php?t=33926&highlight=politics
http://forums.farkin.net/showthread.php?t=35222&highlight=politics
http://forums.farkin.net/showthread.php?t=34071&highlight=politics
http://forums.farkin.net/showthread.php?t=20511&highlight=politics
http://forums.farkin.net/showthread.php?t=24336&highlight=politics
http://forums.farkin.net/showthread.php?t=24336&highlight=politics
http://forums.farkin.net/showthread.php?t=33864&highlight=politics
http://forums.farkin.net/showthread.php?t=30030&highlight=politics
http://forums.farkin.net/showthread.php?t=32743&highlight=politics
http://forums.farkin.net/showthread.php?t=30709&highlight=politics
http://forums.farkin.net/showthread.php?t=31840&highlight=politics
http://forums.farkin.net/showthread.php?t=30940&highlight=politics
http://forums.farkin.net/showthread.php?t=30940&highlight=politics

That's a search on politics alone, you could also try environmentalism, religion, science/metaphysics, psychology (intersexuality) and so many more.

When you get back from your little holiday, feel free to grave dig these and start fixing the BIG problems ;)

BTW, you only think that it doesn't matter because it's not you that it affects.....


Here where i live i have heard 'only words' being used towards people of different colour. How do you think those people take being called 'FUCKING NIGGERS'?? (Or 'Vitun Neekerit' in Finnish)
I have seen this being yelled at African immigrants as they are just walking down the street minding their own business. They must cop it at least once a day. It's fucking disgraceful! Makes me embarrassed to be a Finn.
'Only words', what a stupid thing to say.
Wow, that's so dissapointing to hear. I have never seen this attitude shown by anyone in all the times i've been in Scandinavian/Nordic countries. Please tell me that you were drunk and making it up :(

[Pete J]

Wow, that's so dissapointing to hear. I have never seen this attitude shown by anyone in all the times i've been in Scandinavian/Nordic countries. Please tell me that you were drunk and making it up :(


If only i were!
In one instance this lady waiting at a bus stop got up and started yelling at an African lady who was across the road walking from the shop.
This Finnish woman just yelled the worst kind of insults and for no reason at all. I got so upset i yelled back at her to shut her fuckin mouth.
And even if people don't abuse out loud, most regular Finns use the word 'nigger' without blinking. They don't see it as being that offensive. There again is that 'just a word' mentality. :(

[johnny]

That's so dark ages for such a seemingly enlighted country :rolleyes:

[Pete J]

That's so dark ages for such a seemingly enlighted country :rolleyes:


Luckily the younger people are much more accepting, it's the older generation that are so backwards in thinking.
So there is hope yet! :)

[and1]

that rule is so jewish, maybe your a homosexual?

I like having shit and fuck allowed, they aren't really offensive on their own, and can be quite expressive. Fag and gay are just such silly words to use to describe people or things, a copout for people who can't express their thoughts properly. I really don't like the use of retard, it's a very unfortunate medical condition, and not a word to throw around, absolutely not funny.

So fag, gay and retard, not acceptable.

I tried arguing that a while ago when the topic of the use of the word "gay" to describe something in a negative way came up. APPARENTLY, according to certain "respected" and "enlightened" members of the forum the use of the term retard is totally acceptable, but the use of the word gay is acceptable. Consistency at its finest right there. Way to shield one minority group and throw another out in the open.

The whole thing of what you can and can't say is becoming pretty retarded, I think we should all just become a bit more gay in our attitudes towards such topics.

And yes I know I am most likely facing a ban for my direct disobedience of the rules. But hey, I'm such a hard cunt rules just shouldn't apply to me.

[Grip]

And yes I know I am most likely facing a ban for my direct disobedience of the rules. But hey, I'm such a hard cunt rules just shouldn't apply to me.

See, you must think we're all a bunch of twits. I can't speak for anyone else, but from my perspective there's no way you cop a ban for simply making a point.

[naz]

ive copped my fair share of racism, and ive found its only the really ignorant who really use it so openly and dont really understand what there saying. i mean come on if your gonna pay me out for being asian i can sure pay you out for being another caucasian coz all you guys look the same to me :rolleyes:

[Grip]

coz all you guys look the same to me :rolleyes:

another golden moment from the naz man :p

[Bodin]

i can sure pay you out for being another caucasian coz all you guys look the same to me :rolleyes:

Rubbish - Grip's heaps uglier than me.

:p

[Grip]

Rubbish - Grip's heaps uglier than me.

:p

That'd be game on then, eh? ;)

[Bodin]

That'd be game on then, eh? ;)

Yep, you and yer "susages"...

[and1]

See, you must think we're all a bunch of twits. I can't speak for anyone else, but from my perspective there's no way you cop a ban for simply making a point.

Maybe the fact that I stated the rule was jewish (which is somewhat racist as I was using it in a negative and derogatory way), the question of your sexuality - the most mature insult anyone can dish out obviously and the fact that I am assosciated a negative rule with such a lifestyle.

So basically I disobeyed two rules straight out by using racial slurs and calling something gay.

Don't mind me though, I'm just a shit stirrer.

[Dicko888]

i appolagise if i offended anyone but what i supose i mean is that there is always someone worse than you or me. like one of my mates posted before me, one of our riding buddies was in a biking accident that has put him in a spinal ward in bisbane and that is an example or on of those bigger isues.

anyway if i offended anyone sory.

Ben

[Jordy]

ive copped my fair share of racism, and ive found its only the really ignorant who really use it so openly and dont really understand what there saying. i mean come on if your gonna pay me out for being asian i can sure pay you out for being another caucasian coz all you guys look the same to me :rolleyes:

haha i remember MSN 3 way convos with gromet, he loved the racism..although you were going to shit in his helmet.

just an idea, what about one of those fight/bitch forums ? pretty much every other forum i've been onto has had one of those and it can be a funny read...

[demo man]

i appolagise if i offended anyone but what i supose i mean is that there is always someone worse than you or me. like one of my mates posted before me, one of our riding buddies was in a biking accident that has put him in a spinal ward in bisbane and that is an example or on of those bigger isues.

anyway if i offended anyone sory.

Ben


just because your freind is hurt doesn't mean that automaticly all 'retarded' people know that and are okay with you using the word. they don't know that you have somebody in that situation, and i'm sure even if they did they would still take ofense.

as for derogatory comments and phrases such as 'gay' or 'fag' etc.
well anyone who uses shit like that is quite literally a moron.

"you're a fucking gay cockslave. you are the dumbest cunt i've ever met you [race] bastard"

the above is an exaple - who does that phrase say more about? the person who is saying it or the person being told that?
i think the speaker is showing the world how much of an ignorant and obnixious person he/she is, and that he has no intelligence to speak of. yet, we know nothing new about the person that is being insulted.

if you are upset about what someone said, then for gods sake, attack the position not the person!



and more to the point - what is wrong with being gay? if i were to say i'm gay right now, would it make a difference to how you see me? if so, then you should probably work on that.
saying gay in a negative way only further pushes the (very, very wrong and horribly damaging) attitude of 'gay=bad'

and next time i see the thread that has someone saying "poo-pushers" as a description of gay people, well i'll report it. that's a very bad way to look at homosexuality, no matter how you look at it.

[Dicko888]

i no i just got let back into the forums but as for homosexuality i dont hate the people who are into that sort of stuff but its not natural. Have you ever seen any other species of animals that have same sex relations like humans do? NO i didnt think so! And we are ment to be the superiour race!
Before people start calling their lawyers I will say it agine, I DONT HATE HOMOSEXUALS i very strongly disagrea with the whole consept.

just because your freind is hurt doesn't mean that automaticly all 'retarded' people know that and are okay with you using the word. they don't know that you have somebody in that situation, and i'm sure even if they did they would still take ofense.

And i never said anything about retards.

[johnny]

The whole thing of what you can and can't say is becoming pretty retarded,
re·tard·ed, re·tard·ing, re·tards
v. tr.

To cause to move or proceed slowly; delay or impede.

Your statement doesn't make sense.

i no i just got let back into the forums but as for hosexuality i dont hate the people who are into that sort of stuff but its not natural. Have you ever seen any other species of animals that have same sex relations like humans do? NO i didnt think so!
WRONG!!

The Bonobo monkey has sex for pleasure just like humans do, male-male, female-female, many insects have homosexual sex, male dogs hump each other, many species are even a-sexual. You are 100% wrong. You think you can come up with the truth just by thinking about it? Do some research if you want to have a chance! Here's a good place to start: http://forums.farkin.net/showthread.php?t=28723&highlight=intersexual

You don't offend me, I just sit here shaking my head at how ignorant you are when you think you know the deal........

Demo man is on the money for my liking ;)

[Captain Blake]

Ok just a query.

Calling someone a ranga, is that allowed?

[Dicko888]

WRONG!!

The Bonobo monkey has sex for pleasure just like humans do, male-male, female-female

yeh and they are now an endanged species.

hmm.

[johnny]

yeh and they are now an endanged species.

hmm.
Dude, the bottom line is that you are completely wrong and I can prove it beyond any doubt. You've pretty much admitted that with your above line. BTW, so, human encroachment on natural habitats and poaching have nothing to do with the endangerment of a species eh? :rolleyes:

If it was un-natural, why does it occur? Has the human race (and all the other millions of species that have homosexuality) some how slipped from natures grasp? Are we synthetic now or what? How when one is acting on urges, can it be un-natural.

Are you a biologist?

Myself, I have two years of neuro-biology under my belt. I've actually scientifically researched this ;)

[Dicko888]

so is muder and rape is ok when its a natura urge is it?
NO IT ISNT IS IT!

just because its a "natural urge" doesnt mean its ok.

and as for your piece of paper, that doesnt mean anything!

If you are soo smart why do you think homosexuality has been looked down all through history!

[Binaural]

yeh and they are now an endanged species.

hmm.

I wouldn't be talking about our closest genetic relatives among animals (98% shared genes) like that.

Johnny is spot on - a constellation of animal species exhibit some degree of homosexual behaviour. Why don't these traits breed out? No one knows, and lots of smart people have been working on it for decades. Until we do know, I suggest you keep an open mind on what's natural and what's not.

[Rik]

If you are soo smart why do you think homosexuality has been looked down all through history!ALOT of things have been looked down upon through history, just because some humans think it's wrong doesn't make it wrong :rolleyes:

[Dicko888]

and i sugest you think about how smart these people realy are. for all you no they could be heaping the shit up aroud your ears and telling you its chocolate. Its like space, how do we no there are stars out there and what they are made of. have you been there and taken samples. no they are geussing. for all we no these mokeys fell out of their tree when they were young and they dont know what the hell they are doing.

but then agin they are natural urges and thats ok. But with if i had a nuatural urge to murder that would be wrong.

I guess what i am thring to say is believe nothing of what you hear and only half of what you see.

[Carl]

all asians do look the same :rolleyes:

i can get away with that.


how about abusing of blacks, jews, fags, all other minorities, etc :rolleyes:

is that alright?

[johnny]

so is muder and rape is ok when its a natura urge is it?
NO IT ISNT IS IT!

just because its a "natural urge" doesnt mean its ok.

and as for your piece of paper, that doesnt mean anything!

If you are soo smart why do you think homosexuality has been looked down all through history!
Because of ignorants like you!

I never said it was good or bad, I just argue your original point that it's un-natural, which you've quietly shrunk away from.

So, certain cultures enforce female genital mutilation and have done for centuries. Because it's steeped in history, that makes it natural or proper yeah? Not in my book brother, hell we thought the world was flat for centuries, but that was proved wrong, or do you still believe that. Are you a creationist by any chance?......do you know what that is?

My piece of paper, are you talking qualifications? Yeah, what's an education when you can make it up yourself? :rolleyes: Seems to work well for you. BTW, you may also wish to tell the next orthopeadic surgeon that you have to visit that his paper doesn't mean squat and that you'll give him the run down because you've got the scoop on everything.

Sorry mate, but your argument is a sinking ship.

Anyway, I'm happy to debate a scientific point with you but I'm not gonna play e-penis games.

You have your (ignorant) opinion, I have mine. So be it.

[johnny]

and i sugest you think about how smart these people realy are. for all you no they could be heaping the shit up aroud your ears and telling you its chocolate. Its like space, how do we no there are stars out there and what they are made of. have you been there and taken samples. no they are geussing. for all we no these mokeys fell out of their tree when they were young and they dont know what the hell they are doing.

but then agin they are natural urges and thats ok. But with if i had a nuatural urge to murder that would be wrong.

I guess what i am thring to say is believe nothing of what you hear and only half of what you see.
Dude, look up the words: science, research, experimentation, etc. Not everyone just guesses at things like yourself.

You talk murder and homosexuality as a comparitive model, but it's useless. Murder is a natural urge but is sanctioned via social norms and cultural practice because it causes harm. One may even argue from an evolutionary/psychological model that says we are adverse to this action because it threatens the cohesiveness of the social grouping that ensures security, abundance of resources and ultimately survival. Therefore murder is heavily sanctioned by society in general.

Homosexuality on the other hand, does no harm to consenting couples. Therefore it is only some cultural practices and value/belief systems that conflict with homosexuality making the issue subjective.

Do you think murder is natural or un-natural?

[Dicko888]

for my final post i would like to say i dont trust doctors and like the saying gos " God mad adam and eve, not adam and steve"



Just to clarify i dont have a problem with homosexuals as people however i disagre with the whole act.

[johnny]

for my final post i would like to say i dont trust doctors and like the saying gos " God mad adam and eve, not adam and steve"

btw i see you never debated the whole natural urges point. is it safe to asume i was rite.
No, just like your spelling, you are wrong again. I was addressing this point whilst you made this post.

Don't trust doc's eh? You really are living in the 15th century aren't you! Quite obvious by the religiously loaded post too. I don't believe in God, so that saying is redundant in my eyes.

[sikkunt]

The more old men in my bed, the better.

That's what I call natural.

[Binaural]

for my final post i would like to say i dont trust doctors and like the saying gos " God mad adam and eve, not adam and steve"

Just to clarify i dont have a problem with homosexuals as people however i disagre with the whole act.

You are a twit. This whole post screams ignorance and views you can't defend, so you're running away before anyone tells you how wrong you are :rolleyes:

Sorry to break this to you, but god doesn't exist. Go read a biology textbook and get a clue. You should especially enjoy the section about Darwinism, which is relevant to your post about doctors.

While you are at it, why not educate yourself about animal homosexuality?

[Rik]

blahCarl, your friends are just as witty as you are.

[sikkunt]

Sorry to break this to you, but god doesn't exist. Go read a biology textbook and get a clue. You should especially enjoy the section about Darwinism, which is relevant to your post about doctors.

I think you're ignorant. How can you pass off that a god doesn't exist?

I'm not religious either, but I think you shouldn't criticise people of ignorance if you're going to post comments like that.

[Carl]

Thanks for telling me that. I control what other people do.

[sikkunt]

Carl, your friends are just as witty as you are.

Eat me, big boy.

[Binaural]

and i sugest you think about how smart these people realy are. for all you no they could be heaping the shit up aroud your ears and telling you its chocolate. Its like space, how do we no there are stars out there and what they are made of. have you been there and taken samples. no they are geussing. for all we no these mokeys fell out of their tree when they were young and they dont know what the hell they are doing.

but then agin they are natural urges and thats ok. But with if i had a nuatural urge to murder that would be wrong.

I guess what i am thring to say is believe nothing of what you hear and only half of what you see.

Before you carry on about how useless education is, you should try some. I for one know rather a lot about what goes in in stars, even if you don't.

The existence of the hydrogen bomb (which uses the same principles as the reactions that drive stars) should suggest that at least SOMEONE knows rather a lot about it. But hey, I guess those nobel prizes are just paper huh?

[Binaural]

I think you're ignorant. How can you pass off that a god doesn't exist?

I'm not religious either, but I think you shouldn't criticise people of ignorance if you're going to post comments like that.

How? Glad you asked. Everything you wanted to know here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Natural_selection

That's why :rolleyes:

[sikkunt]

How? Glad you asked. Everything you wanted to know here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Natural_selection

That's why :rolleyes:

Yep, I've just read a page long theory.

Thankyou.

[Binaural]

Yep, I've just read a page long theory.

Thankyou.

Congratulations! You'll master book-learnin' yet.

[Joel O]

do you understand the difference between a scientific theory and a regular, it could be something like this theory?

[sikkunt]

Ok.

Biology sucks, I plan on dropping it at the end of the school term.

Science is basically religion, without the homo-erotic stories.

[Binaural]

Ok.

Biology sucks, I plan on dropping it at the end of the school term.

Science is basically religion, without the homo-erotic stories.

Errrr.... not quite.... things like beginning of the world etc.... not eating shellfish... stuff like that.....

[Wattsy]

this thread is just getting plain weird.

[johnny]

Science is basically religion, without the homo-erotic stories.
I had to laugh at this absurdity (not having a go at you, just so funny it's absurd that's all).

The Hypothetico deductive technique is what makes science the most rational of pursuits in searching for fact and truth.....you may never find such a thing, but it's the closest we've come in my eyes.

[sikkunt]

I had to laugh at this absurdity (not having a go at you, just so funny it's absurd that's all).

The Hypothetico deductive technique is what makes science the most rational of pursuits in searching for fact and truth.....you may never find such a thing, but it's the closest we've come in my eyes.

Tru' dat, yor!

Yet, I think it's impossible to be rational. I also believe it's impossible to end debates regarding these kind of subjects.

No body knows, mofo's.

[sikkunt]

I mean 'end' as in coming to a conclusion.
I'm off to watch 'We can be heroes' on ABC, (Ooooh, representin')

[hardtail_syke]

See, you must think we're all a bunch of twits. I can't speak for anyone else, but from my perspective there's no way you cop a ban for simply making a point.

how about dicko888 calling everyone a softcock then saying that they were only words he got the ban for making his point. i think that every one should grow up and learn to take a bit of cruility from others by the way you are certain to be called more than a softcock in the real world

[hardtail_syke]

i no i just got let back into the forums but as for homosexuality i dont hate the people who are into that sort of stuff but its not natural. Have you ever seen any other species of animals that have same sex relations like humans do? NO i didnt think so! And we are ment to be the superiour race!
Before people start calling their lawyers I will say it agine, I DONT HATE HOMOSEXUALS i very strongly disagrea with the whole consept.

i would have to agree with that even though no homosexual person would bother me but if it was natural our bodies would be made so that both male and female could give birth as well as both produce sperm and eggs so therefor it could not possibly be natural

[johnny]

i would have to agree with that even though no homosexual person would bother me but if it was natural our bodies would be made so that both male and female could give birth as well as both produce sperm and eggs so therefor it could not possibly be natural
Therefore infertile women and sterile men are un-natural too. Same goes for getting oral sex, masturbation and hetero anal sex. they don't make babies either, so by your reasoning must be un-natural

[Joel O]

it that were the case (asexual reproduction would be possible) there would be so many more genetic disorders in the world than we have now. recessive alleles would not be bred out, just like inbreeding.

[hardtail_syke]

Dude, look up the words: science, research, experimentation, etc. Not everyone just guesses at things like yourself.

You talk murder and homosexuality as a comparitive model, but it's useless. Murder is a natural urge but is sanctioned via social norms and cultural practice because it causes harm. One may even argue from an evolutionary/psychological model that says we are adverse to this action because it threatens the cohesiveness of the social grouping that ensures security, abundance of resources and ultimately survival. Therefore murder is heavily sanctioned by society in general.

Homosexuality on the other hand, does no harm to consenting couples. Therefore it is only some cultural practices and value/belief systems that conflict with homosexuality making the issue subjective.

Do you think murder is natural or un-natural?

wat do you think homosexuallity causes. i dont know but you might be able to tell me seeing that you are so smart but how did the HIV and AIDS viruses start and i repeat start to spread in the human race can you tell me im not to sure but i thought that it was mainly spread due to the increase of homosexuallity and again i mean not to offend that group of people but i too also have my opinion

[hardtail_syke]

Therefore infertile women and sterile men are un-natural too. Same goes for getting oral sex, masturbation and hetero anal sex. they don't make babies either, so by your reasoning must be un-natural

you got it spot on the penis is meant to be inserted into the vagina which is how babies are made and as for infertile women and sterile men you have to say that they are unlucky and which is y our civilization has developed ways in which every one can have childeren even homosexuals and actually masterbation is as natural as breathing although most people frown appon it

[Carl]

you're fucking dim. please stop now, i don't want you trying to argue for homophobes.

[Joel O]

Therefore infertile women and sterile men are un-natural too. Same goes for getting oral sex, masturbation and hetero anal sex. they don't make babies either, so by your reasoning must be un-naturali had a teacher try to tell me last week that infertility was hereditary, i fail to see the logic. if it was hereditary would it not have been bred out long before IVF or similar came along?

[j5ive]

Meh. I've had enough of this thread. Theres enough rules being broken here to keep the banning stick bloody for months.

But I will end things with this...

Everyones different.

[wombat]

i think that every one should grow up and learn to take a bit of cruility from others
I think you're right, and you can start learning now.
*banned*

[S.]

i had a teacher try to tell me last week that infertility was hereditary, i fail to see the logic. if it was hereditary would it not have been bred out long before IVF or similar came along?

It's pretty hard for the inability to have babies to be passed on... to your baby ;)

[Rik]

I can reply to locked topics too :eek: :cool:

[Grip]

I can reply to locked topics too :eek: :cool:

Yeah? Well I dug this puppy up so I demand to have the final say.... and that is... that this was actually a decent post until the gate to the ignoramus ward was left open!