Step-down into insanity, Lizard Rock, Oxford Falls. Photos?

[Techno Destructo]

I returned to Lizard Rock, in Oxford Falls, Sydney, after about maybe a month and half of riding other trails. I was showing it to a friend from Canada who rides the North Shore on a regular basis and is a pretty solid rider.

Riding along and showing him some of the heavy sections, we came to the middle section where there's the biggest rock face on the trail. On the left, is the steep, stepping rock face that ends with a 4 foot drop that needs a sharp pull-up at the last second. On the right, on the other side of some brush, is that 8(?) foot drop off the rock, with the easiest line, a chunky, narrow rut beside it.

When I was last there, coming to this section, you either went left or right, since straight ahead (the middle section) was just a 15-18 foot drop off the rock face into the abyss (flat landing).

This time, when we rode to that section, we see a little wooden bridge now in the middle section. Riding up to it, I think... "Wow! Did someone build a bridge ALL the way down that, now?"

Then we saw it. :shock:

It was a launch ramp off the top of the rock face to one of the scariest, f**ked up step-downs I had ever seen in front of me. Maybe more than 15 feet, probably closer to 18. It would need a tape measure. And it was the kind of gap where if you came up three feet short, you would case on the built up peak of the small tranny waiting for you, and if you went three feet too far, you would be hitting flat. Very little room for error.

You just rode of the ramp (not much speed needed) then drop a HUGE gap onto a small built-up tranny. Describing this thing doesn't do it justice. I broke out in a cold sweat just imagining doing this thing on my hardtail (which, I can admit, I never will). My buddy looked at it and said, "That...is...retarded!" in a "My god, that is huge!"/respect sorta tone.

Does ANYBODY have any photos or footage of somebody doing this thing? I would love to see it. I saw several tread marks on the tranny at the bottom, so I assume it's been done a few times.

[Simo]

i wanna see pics!!! sounds big!

[kalem]

inta-resting

yeah sounds mad

[Gonzo]

I know someone who did the middle one. That is about a 4' drop to a small wooden tranny.

He then stuffed up the 10' drop towards the end of the trail, hit his head on a rock and cracked his helmet. Very lucky. I didn't ride that much of it being on a hardtail with weak wheels that are already very bent.

[dhcal]

yeh.....i wanna c pics aswell, sounds good as

[kitakishi]

i know the dude who built it. At first he built the 8 foot drop on the far right (on the easy channel throught eh rocks side). Then he built the drop to the 3 pallets and then the launch drop.

Apparently it has been measured at 28 feet from top to lip of landing. its one of those insane drops that lets you see the dudes facial expressions change in mid air.

There was a pro photographer there one day taking pics of some dude but when he saw the guy I know he just started taking pics of him. I will try and get a copy and scan and post it.

he also manages to clear all of lizard rock and before the second set of doubles at the bottom was built he used to over jump the landing.

KK

[Techno Destructo]

Apparently it has been measured at 28 feet from top to lip of landing.
:shock: EEP!



There was a pro photographer there one day taking pics of some dude but when he saw the guy I know he just started taking pics of him. I will try and get a copy and scan and post it.

Omigod. PLEASE get that photo! Even if it's a small crappy one, I'm dying to see someone in mid drop through that thing!

he also manages to clear all of lizard rock and before the second set of doubles at the bottom was built he used to over jump the landing.

I'm not sure what you mean by that. Isn't "Lizard Rock" the large rock at the top of the trail, on the side of the road, that has the eyes and teeth painted on it?

[kitakishi]

I mean he clears the whole trail all the way to bottom. we always refer to it as lizard rock to differentiate it from the rest of the trails at oxford falls.

kk

[kitakishi]

the guy is a mate of a guy I ride with. He has only been riding since February this year. he is an ex supercross rider and is HUGELY talented. he clears all the jumps at redhill in the BMX park area.

KK

[j-ro]

There is a huge difference between that step down and red hill.
I just had school holidays and spent nearly every day at red hill, and can now clear every jump there, including the big one in the middle, but im still scared stiff over that step down.


Give me a week.

lol.

[kitakishi]

wish i could do any of the jumps there

kk

[Techno Destructo]

That middle one gives me "the fear". Brrrr!!!

[Gutty]

I don't like Lizard rock, thats where all my injuries began last october, riding there with Gravityfreak and broke my heel. :(
I believe one of his mates has hit that drop. I'd be very keen to see pics of it also.

[Techno Destructo]

Yeah... talking to Hugh Flowers (of Bike Addiction and author of the Sydney MTB trail guide book), I was surprised to find out that the section that's injured the most riders and broken the most bikes wasn't actually that boulder gap at the very bottom. It was actually the little creek gap that was 3/4 of the way down the trail. You know... the one that the run-up comes out of a corner, then there is a low 6ft gap to a small kicker immediately on landing, which then pops you over the creek.

Well, that was about 3 months ago, anyway. Somebody's built a ladder over the 6ft gap (which was only about 1.5 feet deep in the first place), so you can actually ride up to the kicker a lot easier now. :( Which I'm not crazy about (since I thought it was better before - meaning I had a 80% success rating with it).

I guess the reason why the heaviest sections aren't the kings of destruction on that trail is because of how few riders have the balls to do them.

I know I can't do the heaviest sections. I'm coming to terms with my limitations now.

[Gutty]

Yeah... talking to Hugh Flowers (of Bike Addiction and author of the Sydney MTB trail guide book), I was surprised to find out that the section that's injured the most riders and broken the most bikes wasn't actually that boulder gap at the very bottom. It was actually the little creek gap that was 3/4 of the way down the trail. You know... the one that the run-up comes out of a corner, then there is a low 6ft gap to a small kicker immediately on landing, which then pops you over the creek.

Well, that was about 3 months ago, anyway. Somebody's built a ladder over the 6ft gap (which was only about 1.5 feet deep in the first place), so you can actually ride up to the kicker a lot easier now. :( Which I'm not crazy about (since I thought it was better before - meaning I had a 80% success rating with it).

I guess the reason why the heaviest sections aren't the kings of destruction on that trail is because of how few riders have the balls to do them.

I know I can't do the heaviest sections. I'm coming to terms with my limitations now.


Dude !!! That little creek gap is exactly where i broke my heel. landed a bit wonky, put my foot out, knee locked and compressed my whole leg. Result was a fractured heel and bruised joints on the ankle,knee and hip. i'm still kicking myself for fucking up such an easy(well it's not that hard) section of trail........ :x

[Techno Destructo]

Dude !!! That little creek gap is exactly where i broke my heel. landed a bit wonky, put my foot out, knee locked and compressed my whole leg. Result was a fractured heel and bruised joints on the ankle,knee and hip. i'm still kicking myself for fucking up such an easy(well it's not that hard) section of trail........ :x

Well, there ya go...

Don't be hard on yourself, Gutty. The original setup of that section was NOT easy. It's one of those rare sections that look decievingly simple/easy, when they're actually pretty tricky and hard. Probably the main reason why so much destruction happened there. Nobody expects it.

If it was easy, it wouldn't have been the section that's eaten the most riders and broken the most bikes. You were just unlucky on the bail.

Heck, I've bailed on that section a few times, and every time I bailed, it sent me sprawling into the tree on the left, or the logs and rocks on the right. I swear, I must be one of the luckiest guys around since I've only picked up bruises, minor cuts, and soreness that lasts for days afterwards. One time, I must have come SO close to breaking my collar bone. :o

It's the fact that after you land that first small gap, you've got a split second to ready yourself for that kicker. It all happens so fast, that if you're off-center just a tiny bit, or your weight's not right, it almost guarantees a bad launch, and then... well, cross your fingers...

But I'm sure I'm preaching to the converted, eh Gutty? :(

[Gutty]

Dude !!! That little creek gap is exactly where i broke my heel. landed a bit wonky, put my foot out, knee locked and compressed my whole leg. Result was a fractured heel and bruised joints on the ankle,knee and hip. i'm still kicking myself for fucking up such an easy(well it's not that hard) section of trail........ :x

Well, there ya go...

Don't be hard on yourself, Gutty. The original setup of that section was NOT easy. It's one of those rare sections that look decieving simple/easy, when they're actually pretty tricky and hard. Probably the main reason why so much destruction happened there. Nobody expects it.

If it was easy, it wouldn't have been the section that's eaten the most riders and broken the most bikes. You were just unlucky on the bail.

Heck, I've bailed on that section a few times, and every time I bailed, it sent me sprawling into the tree on the left, or the logs and rocks on the right. I swear, I must be one of the luckiest guys around since I've only picked up bruises, minor cuts, and soreness that lasts for days afterwards. One time, I must have come SO close to breaking my collar bone. :o

It's the fact that after you land that first small gap, you've got a split second to ready yourself for that kicker. It all happens so fast, that if you're off-center just a tiny bit, or your weight's not right, it almost guarantees a bad launch, and then... well, cross your fingers...

But I'm sure I'm preaching to the converted, eh Gutty? :(

Coverted !? Sadly haven't ridden DH since. :(

[Rik]

TTIWWP.
That is all.

[Techno Destructo]

TTIWWP.
That is all.

Please explain. :?

[Rik]

This
Thread
Is
Worthless
Without
Pics
:)

[Techno Destructo]

Ahh! Yeah.. you're totally right, Rik. I gotta take some shots of these things so everybody knows what I'm talking about. I'm on the case!

[howesy]

i havnt checked the trail in AGES, but if ur talking abotu the smae drop im thinking, flower power (hugh flower, same guy techno was tlaking about) mentioned that the drop has redently been messured in, at get this.....27 feet.........now thats wat i call masterbation on wheels!

[josh]

I like Pics!

[j-ro]

Done.
Bit of an overclear with an absolute headslammer landing, but managed to roll away.
I'll be going up after my trial exams to do it again for the camera.

[perfor8r]

C'mon J-ro, hurry up and get those pics...I'm gettin' ancy just reading this thread :wink: :P

[j-ro]

haha
won't be long mate, I finish my exams at 4 next thursday

[spudz]

just happened to b riding at lizard rock a few months ago when we came across the drop , there were a few guys there with video cameras as they had just finished building the landing ramp . then saw 1 of the guys on a specialized big hit launch the drop it was totally insane.never seen anyone in the air for that long .It was his 5th attempt 4 the day and one other guy had dropped it also.

[Techno Destructo]

Yeah, c'mon all you heavy hitters out there.... Come over to Sydney and see if you can nail this thing. PM me, we'll organise and document it.

Fastrider Gus... you go pretty big... sounds perfect for ya!

[Rik]

*waits pateintly for pics*

[Dicky]

pics pics pics... hurry up j-ro

i too have stood atop this fat mother of a stepdown, wondering how many months (possibly years) it'll be before i have the courage to hit it up.

[Konaman]

how come you farkin characters take so long to get pics.
I just wanna see this thing.

[j-ro]

Who's got a camera?
Ive got a digital one from my dad's shop but I allways end up blurry. Thats when im sober too.
Prolly gonna hit it up saturday bike permitting (If it craks much worse with fidays session)

[naz]

the drop looks soo smooth..Has ne one hit the 18footer on a hardtail...the one next to the 3 palletes...
i was there today it looks sooo sic...gonna hit the 18 nxt weekend along wit dainese and fullface!..didnt have time to do the whole track only got the ns drop after that section!
i think its hard to take pics there every turn u make theres somethin else....
if ne one wants to head up this week sometime and has a camera give us a bell...

[sparky_12]

i got a pic of it but nobodys doin it and its from da bottom

[mr whippy]

this thread is a tease! homer no function pictures without :(

[notb4dinner]

i got a pic of it but nobodys doin it and its from da bottom
Your killing us, post it already.

[juzza]

yeah. Lizard rock is absolutely awesome. By far one of the best tracks ive ridden to date. So much work has been done on it recently and it is looking HUGE. Iver heard that someone has done the A line but the tranny is too sketchy to hit it up. All the other lines are sweet. Give it a go and get some god damn pics out!

[perfor8r]

JJJJJ--ROOOO, oohh JJJJ-RROOOOOO!!!!

Where are deee peeektures J-Ro! :twisted:

[j-ro]

I did it again on friday morning at about 8-8:30. still looking for a digital camera? or can i put a pic up that ive scanned onto my comp? i have no idea about computers

As for the claims the tranny is dodgy. Yeah I'd drink to that, you gotta be perfectly on target or you get really badly injured, its really unforgiving.

[bb7 rider]

heck i am gonna 360 the section just too prove its simplness

[spudz]

hey j-ro you organise a time and i'll bring the cameras .

[bb7 rider]

count me in for some oxy photos
keen as!!!!!

[j-ro]

Righto, this weekend headin up to the bluemtns for some air action but the one after? my frames purty craked so lets just hope it hold out!

eh... stacks are for girls.

[spudz]

Sounds good as i'm goin 2 ourimbah on sunday 4 the state round , next weekend maybe on sunday . No excuses!. Maybe i should the guy i saw drop it a ring as i have his number .

[j-ro]

Mate I work sundays at BBF!!!
saturday??

[spudz]

o.k will have to work out a time as i wanna go to the bike show so maybe saturday morning.c how we go.

[spudz]

Hey J-ro what bike r u riding.

[bb7 rider]

spudz where you at ourimbah the last weekend for the club race?

[spudz]

nah had some mates racing, goinn this week to take some photos as i have a torn rib cartlidge after coming off at emu plains a month ago.Only just starting to race, raced out at dargyle in a club round in june-july.Need more practice and a downhill bike.

[bb7 rider]

no good bout your injuries man, yeah downhill bikes ar good !! i will be at ourimbah sat and sun so you see us on a white bb7 come say hi

[spudz]

Will do .will try to get some pictures if yah racing.

[j-ro]

Giant ATX-DH with manitou carbons.
self?

[spudz]

A giant ac1 at the moment looking at getting a 2004 dh team have some mates that may come out on saturday.

[spudz]

lizard rock this saturday how about we hit it early so we might make it back to the bike show after lunch ,bb7 whats the go with the stitches what happened.

[bb7 rider]

at ourimbah on sun got a stick ripped intp my shin and it decided to jam itself under my shin bone and just make a mess. but i still raced so its all good.

[bb7 rider]

but yeah who else is keen for some lizard rock on sat morn.

[Squidly Didly]

You had to pick trade-show day. Otherwise I would've come along and hopefully stepped up!
Oh well, bikeporn at Rosehill it is :lol:

[spudz]

Hey dude may have some guys coming with me i can do some shuttles in my van as i ain't riding yet but i also wanna take some photos. spoke to adam the dude that hit the drop the last time i was there i am gonna ring him towards the end of the week said he would come ,

[bb7 rider]

sounds good mate i will be there 4 sure, leg will be fine.

[CHEWY]

so did there end up being any pics of this madness step-down?

[spudz]

chewy this saturday its on will see how we go

[kitakishi]

Hey guys can you please post what time you will be out there on saturday. Seeing this gap done is one of those got to see it type things and I have some mates that have never seen it done.

KK

[j-ro]

Hope I can make it guys!I changed my work dya to saturday this w/e so i can go to the show with g.a. but hopefully i can convince my boss to give me a late start

[spudz]

will be there around 10 o'clock so the light will be good ,know we just need someone to drop it.

[j-ro]

Lol. lets just hope in not the only one!

I'm working 8:45 till 5:30 at BBF

BB7 rider will hit it won't you?

[jamie]

some are do'ers
some are follower's
and others spend their whole life just talking about it
all of you talkers get of the farkin computer and ride it.
:twisted:

[Rik]

How about:
all of you talkers do it, then POST PICS FFS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!11

[bb7 rider]

right it is about 3.30 am i am pissed out of my brains still have bout 20 stitches in my leg and i am 4 sure gonna be at oxford in the morn to hit it up, then we can show some pics!

[Agent Orange]

yaha ya tal; talk tlak tlak talk im wasted too, hmmm noiw e=whre have i been too hmmm?

[Fat_Ride]

Hey bb7 rider, I don't feel so bad about the creek jump anymore... looks like i'm not the only one to nail myself on it!!!
For anyone else... same old story, coming down to launch and got unstuck... end up landing ontop of my own bike and screwing myself up. worst part was that I screwed my rear wheel and that finished my day!!

[Agent Orange]

lol who else nailed themself on the creek jump? bb7 didn't mess himself again did he?

[j-ro]

some are do'ers
some are follower's
and others spend their whole life just talking about it
all of you talkers get of the farkin computer and ride it.

I ain't just no talker.
Squidy back me up mate!

[Gutty]

lol who else nailed themself on the creek jump? bb7 didn't mess himself again did he?

A couple of us, earlier in this thread........

[Fat_Ride]

Should we be seeing some photos in the next few days fella's???

[Techno Destructo]

Should we be seeing some photos in the next few days fella's???

YES!!! We've done it!!! We finally have photos!

Yesterday (Sunday, Sept. 8th), myself, Squid, the Farkin boys and a guy named Shane went there (about 3 pm?) with a bunch of digital cameras, and Red Bull organizer Mark (who was riding his Rocky Wade Simmons) went to Lizard Rock, and we shot LOTS of photos - including THE step-down (yes... Mark Turner is jumping it)...

Should have'em up either today or tomorrow. Stay tuned...

[kitakishi]

hooorah!!!

KK

[schwing]

Hoorah Hoorah
My antanae are quivering with anticipation .
showus ya carnage! baby

[turns]

Hey i can't wait to see the photos guys.Thanks for shooting them for me.
As for RedBull organizer,i am not the organizer just course manager forseeing the marshalls.Nolen Oayda and the two Mikes are the organizers.
Just want to correct you on that.
Cheers
Mark Turner

[Techno Destructo]

LOL! Sorry Mark!

What the man said... though the way he rode, you would think he was one of the competitors as well...

[Ryan]

OK, after 4 pages of speculation here's the sequence I shot, the other farkin boys have photos from other angles that show the height of the drop a bit better, but I'm stoked with the way this came out so....
Location: Lizard Rock, Oxford Falls
Rider: Mark Turner (turns)
http://www.farkin.net/images/user/TN//471b1628a76ba39ca2d2ca9d56628618.jpg ('http://www.farkin.net/image.php?image=471b1628a76ba39ca2d2ca9d56628618.j pg')

[kitakishi]

Giddyup!!!

Glad to (finally) see pics of this. Well done Mark you mad bastard!!!

Great photo sequence Ryan. I hope the side / below shots get posted too as this doesn't totally give this drop justice.

Also well done to Adam and his mates for building the bloody thing!

KK

[schwing]

Faarkin XC-lent//Booyeah master chief Mark T
I canneh wait to see da from under the kilt shots.

Well dunz fellaz,

[lupine128]

woohoo, it realy does exist :D
sweet sequence there ryan, you should be proud of your lovechild.

[bb7 rider]

spudz got a few of me and another guy hitting it on sat but no idea where the pics are

[jamie]

bb7 rider
be patient they will come!!!
spudz has spoken from above!!!

[jamie]

:shock:

[bb7 rider]

ha sorry man

[kitakishi]

what bike is mark riding?

[Rik]

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[spudz]

allright heres 1 photo cant work out how to post them on farkin i keep gettin upload file is to large or corrupt yet seems to work on pinkbike anyway the first photos adam the dude who helped build it and was the second person to drop it he dropped it around 10 times on saturday for me to get some photos also have a photo of bb7 and jamie http://www.pinkbike.com/modules/photo/?op=view&image=116100

[spudz]

heres some more photos
http://www.pinkbike.com/modules/photo/?op=view&image=116108
http://www.pinkbike.com/modules/photo/?op=view&image=116107
http://www.pinkbike.com/modules/photo/?op=view&image=116106

[Bender is CRAZY]

Well done to all who tried and accomplished. That is sweet.

[CHEWY]

woah... thats a pretty small target to have to nail. good work to the nut jobs who did it!

[dick]

ohh not fair
why dont we have anything good like that ib melbourne,

[perfor8r]

Sweet pics boys! Turnsy, well done...


(sidenote: Turns, we'll have to have a few beers this Fri when you're up in Byron!)

:twisted:

[jamie]

thanks spudz, all i need to do is learn how to land. :shock:

[turns]

Hey guys do you think you can forward me a disk with those shots to me care of Bike Addiction so i can add to the collection.
Cheers
Turns
0413347478

[Techno Destructo]

For more awesome shots of Lizard Rock, check the thread in the photo section of the forum.

Big props to Turns, BB7 and Jamie for stepping it up (or down) for the photos!

You guys make it look too easy. Bastards.

[perfor8r]

Just got this one from Turnsy himself, so i thought I'd take the liberty to put it up....
Beers are definitely on now....

http://www.rojackdigital.com/images/jpg/Turnsdog%20.jpg

Many props 8)

[spudz]

yeah right techno big congrats to everyone that's hit it up so far especially beaven @ adam who hit it around 8 times on saturday thanx 4 doin the drop with a bad back.
will be in contact turnsy to get u those photo's will have to go to jamies as i don't have a scanner.

[bikeman_baldrik]

One word: BIG

[yamum884]

must...have...pics!

[kalem]

that's some sweet riding there... big

[Scott]

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[juzza]

mmmmmmmmm YEAH!!!!
Yeah turnsy!!!!!!! Hit em up style. I had heard that you'd done it but hadn't seen anything.
Everyone hail king turnsy!!!!!!

[Gutty]

shit ey........

[jamie]

great photos!!!!!!!!!
what sort of camera is being used, the more info you can give us the better the shots that will appear on farkin in the future..
the multi shots ones are sweet.

and has more dirt appeared on the transition?????? :(

[Scott]

great photos!!!!!!!!!
what sort of camera is being used, the more info you can give us the better the shots that will appear on farkin in the future..
the multi shots ones are sweet.

and has more dirt appeared on the transition?????? :(
canon g3....

[SpectRe]

F##K! I've only ever heard of the riding at Oxford Falls before...that is sick! Big props to the guys that nailed the stepdown gap!! :)

[Fritta]

those are some nice pics good job.

[matty_2004]

wow... nice pics.

[Daver]

I rode there a few weeks back... it's all doable, but i came up short on the step down, and tore by bullit swingarm to peices... the bottom doubles are the best you can get some serious moto whips going
there.

I'm waiting on my new forks before i hit the drops again, but when i'll do, i'll organise some phots and post them up.

Sorry gutty, i had a simular off but on the first step up... sorta took my feet off the pedals on the lip... my bad.

U guys thing these trails are hardcore? Have a go at the new Cliff line at cascades... it's stood for two months and still hasn't been hit... 20 foot step up over a ravine... landings about two feet wide... CRAZY SHITE!!!
this trail makes lizard rock look like a footpath...

[Adi]

Holy sh!t, nice work guys, those are sweet pics :shock:

sweeeet pics fellas

[bb7 rider]

daver is this the cascades at st ives, like acron oval?

[kitakishi]

I've been to cascades at St Africa (st ives) and can't recall seeing anything like this.

Give us some directions man!

KK

[jamie]

Daver
you sound like a big talker with not alot of proof, unlike the bb7 and others who has lived up to their talk, so give the boys some directions to the cascades, and lets see what they can do.
or is it that the cascades have not been ridden because it cant be, there are plenty of 300m+ cliffs in the blue mountains that havent been ridden and never will be and they have been ther for millions of years!!!! :evil:

[Techno Destructo]

That brings up a good point... there's no point being impressed about some terrain unless it's had a successful attempt made on it. Heck, even a close to successful attempt would be enough to qualify it.

But going on about some crazy natural gap/cliff/terrain and how it's way better than something that has been ridden, the argument really doesn't hold water.

Like Jamie said, why not talk about jumping off a skyscraper? That would kick Lizard Rock's ass in terms of difficulty as well!

I think it has to be cleanly ridden before it's talked-up. Otherwise... what's the point?

And also, as Jamie implied... a post like that only serves to downgrade the achievements of others - in a very pointless way as well.

[Daver]

Cascades at st ives (yes at acron oval)- went there with steve nielsen and chris, but the track was farked- like it had just been cut...

It's sorta hard to explain, but mik was tellin us about this drop... i saw it and it the gap is crazy... i don't think anyone will try it, but hey- people built that high jump at warrimoo and that hasn't been hit... i assume the *cliff* gap will be made doable- but defin8ly not by me...

BTW,
BB7 rider... are you the one who did the gap from the sheds at warrimoo...? the drop at the end is hard, but that gap is nearly impossible (nearly coz somewun did it...)!

[Daver]

Cascades at st ives (yes at acron oval)- went there with steve nielsen and chris, but the track was farked- like it had just been cut...

It's sorta hard to explain, but mik was tellin us about this drop... i saw it and it the gap is crazy... i don't think anyone will try it, but hey- people built that high jump at warrimoo and that hasn't been hit... i assume the *cliff* gap will be made doable- but defin8ly not by me...

BTW,
BB7 rider... are you the one who did the gap from the sheds at warrimoo...? the drop at the end is hard, but that gap is nearly impossible (nearly coz somewun did it...)!

[bb7 rider]

yeah i did the gaps at warrimoo and i have done the drop you are talking bout at cascades too, i was there the other week and the track is a little rain damaged but wont take much fixing, i am building a jump over the creek at warrimoo down the bottom should be wicked.

[bb7 rider]

yeah i did the gaps at warrimoo and i have done the drop you are talking bout at cascades too, i was there the other week and the track is a little rain damaged but wont take much fixing, i am building a jump over the creek at warrimoo down the bottom should be wicked.

[Daver]

yeah, that creek idea was sik...
cascades just needs some landings and i'd probably stop nailin myself- thats y lizard rok is sik... i don't nail mysel n there are landings

[Daver]

yeah, that creek idea was sik...
cascades just needs some landings and i'd probably stop nailin myself- thats y lizard rok is sik... i don't nail mysel n there are landings

[bb7 rider]

lets go build some then, but the track needs ALOT! of work and is very hard to get back up the top, but i still thinking lizard rock is harder than the cliff line and the drop gap after it

[bb7 rider]

lets go build some then, but the track needs ALOT! of work and is very hard to get back up the top, but i still thinking lizard rock is harder than the cliff line and the drop gap after it

[Daver]

yEH, i was planni to head up their in a couple of weeks- at the moment we're considerin regeneratin miks old trails at hornsby, but the can't be bothered facto is extraordinary... n our rythm got flattened so i want some jumps sumwhere, not as far away as st ives

[Daver]

yEH, i was planni to head up their in a couple of weeks- at the moment we're considerin regeneratin miks old trails at hornsby, but the can't be bothered facto is extraordinary... n our rythm got flattened so i want some jumps sumwhere, not as far away as st ives

[Daver]

errr juzza... fukn ride a bike... stop moanin...

[smooth2]

If you want pics of lizard rock just go to pink bike or somfin, dose ne one ride red hill downhill trails or dirt jumps, im a bit sad they took the big BIG 15 footer gap jump out. i loved to see guys do that jump.

BIKE ADDICTION RULES :!: :!: :!: :D

[Squidly Didly]

Hey Smooth2, who are you? Went to Red Hill today, and someone's built up a nice wooden lander on that 6footer down Grizzley's. They took out the big 15foot jump, cuz they pallet was already distroyed, and was becoming unsafe to hit it with that required speed.

[juzza]

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who the hell keeps deleting my posts? :evil:
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[naz]

^its prob coz ur posting shit like that

[wombat]

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who the hell keeps deleting my posts? :evil:
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Thankfully, someone.

[Gutty]

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who the hell keeps deleting my posts? :evil:
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Thankfully, someone.


hahahahahaha

[juzza]

hahahaha. nah me and Daver were just having a little argument and one of the Moderators or what so decided to pick out all of my posts so the discussion/argument wouldnt make sense. Was very entertaining while it lasted and i know you guys would have liked it so stop payin me out.

Oh yeah,
and most of the stuff i post is not shit by the way, only some things. check if you want. :lol:

[wombat]

Don't worry I saw the "argument". I think you were very well articulated...... kinda like a monkey.

[juzza]

shuddup wombat.

[Bullit rider]

yeah... good man... have a cry juzza- as most of u know i'm used to copping shite.