PM System Abuse with regards to Trading

[Scott]

I've received complaints from sellers regarding countless boneheaded private messages they've been getting from supposed 'potential buyers.'

We (I at least) admins are going to start cracking down on this because it has become ridiculous.

Here's some simple guidelines to follow:

- If you are going to query a seller with a PM, make sure you think it out and include as many questions as you can in the one PM. This is not MSN, sellers do not enjoy using out PM system as an instant messenger. Single sentence and un-thought out queries can in cases be considered spam.

- READ WHAT THE SELLER HAS WRITTEN - Allot of the time sellers are answering questions that have already answered in their for sale thread, or in a previous PM. This can be extremely frustrating. Don't be surprised if you get a nasty reply telling you to READ THE $#^%#$% THREAD!

- The customer isn't always right. Sellers are not bike shops, they are individuals. They don't have to price match, they don't care if the item is sold cheaper on Jensen's, they don't care if Tom down the road is selling his Yeti DH9 for $4000, $1000 less than theirs. A price is a price, and the seller will indicate if they are willing to negotiate. If you see a better deal, leave the other poor seller alone, YOU ARE WASTING HIS/HER TIME!


Look, I know that allot of people are new to this type of trading, and others are not. But please have a little consideration for the people that sell. It may not happen, but I would really like to avoid the case of the buyers driving away the sellers.

[jimbob1]

As a new member to Farkin its great to be able to browse at all the gear as not all of us can afford to buy new. I have'nt as yet sold or advertised on Farkin, but if i did i agree with your comment that it is the sellers right to sell for the price that they think is fair, if a buyer thinks that they can do better elsewhere then perhaps that is where they should go!

[naz]

what about mailing n shit, i copped alot of crap because i didnt mail,have a cry ffs its the sellers choice to sell, its there choice onprice, its there decision on whether they should mail.

[johnny]

what about mailing n shit, i copped alot of crap because i didnt mail,have a cry ffs its the sellers choice to sell, its there choice onprice, its there decision on whether they should mail.

That was the funniest and most ridiculous situtation I've ever seen on Farkin. I can't believed people abused you because you only wanted a local sale. I know of many better reasons to abuse you than that, PUNK! :p

Another point is abusing some one who makes you an offer. Unless it's absolutely ridiculous and time wasting, all that's needed is a simple "Sorry I won't go any lower than "x" dollars" Not F** you you tight arsed........" Which is what I copped after offering some one on this sight 20% less than their asking price (mind you there was also no indication of "fixed price" in his original post and I may have been a little less forward in the way I approached the offer).

As it turns out, I just politely/appologetically offered some one $250 for what they were asking $400 for. I was told it will be considered.

So people should be able to feel free to offer lower than asking prices (providing it's in a polite manner) without abuse in return. This is Farkin, people bargain and haggle. If you do not wish to recieve PM's with offers, state this in your post!

[S.]

what about mailing n shit, i copped alot of crap because i didnt mail,have a cry ffs its the sellers choice to sell, its there choice onprice, its there decision on whether they should mail.

Yeah and it's the potential buyer's choice whether to heap shit on you for it. Take it like a man.

[j5ive]

what about mailing n shit, i copped alot of crap because i didnt mail,have a cry ffs its the sellers choice to sell, its there choice onprice, its there decision on whether they should mail.

No, you copped allot of crap because you were all Mr Badass. :D

Either way, I stopped crying about it long ago, it sounds like you still need a shoulder to wet. :p

[99_FGT]

I have also found a few people hitch hiking on the back of other people's wanted to buy posts. :mad: Do you guys consider this acceptable? Even if the hitch hikers have posted 3 months ago wanting the same thing, the seller has responded to the new post in particular. Maybe because they did not see yours, or maybe because it hasn't been touched in 3 months, there are many reasons. If there are multiple people offering, fair enough (perhaps put an EOI in), but remember that the person who posted the ad should have first dibs.
Al..

[sirphilby]

i know that alot of the time it is sellers who cop most of the shit, but buyers can be treated like shit too. i was trying to but a 2nd hand bike, i wont give any detail about it except the guy treated me like a peice of crap! first he agreed to a price i was asking, then raised the price another $100 because he siad he had gone too low, which i accepted. then a week later he tried to raise the price another $200, saying that was the price. i declined the bike after that and then had an off tap message about how i could have given him at least another $50. sometimes i wonder about people....

[4heckssake]

personally i have mostly had good experiences trading on farkin.

about 5%-10% of the people trading tho haven't got a clue when it comes to respecting others...that's about on par for life.

my approach is to be clear with communications and if the person on the other end is not meeting your expectations...just move on, there will be another item/buyer/seller before you know it.

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[Daver]

I'm not a fan of guys just PMing me asking for parts that either i'm not selling or do not have. I hate it.

[bighitter]

I'm not a fan of guys just PMing me asking for parts that either i'm not selling or do not have. I hate it.

Me too, I estimate i get atleast 1 or 2 PM's a week like this

[Ryan]

Here's one, if someone has posted a wanted ad and specifically included the dimensions of the part they want eg:

Wanted: 12mm bolt up rear hub, 150mm width

Then for the love of god don't send them a PM saying,

"I've got a 135mm QR rear hub, is that what you're after"

[roasted]

what about "are you splitting?"

god that pisses me off!

as well as "will you sell me the cranks on it in that photo?"
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for fucks sake, its the item LISTED that is for sale.

[Oracle]

Hi,

Sorry to raise such an old thread; however, has anyone a problem with me sending a polite pm to a member of the trading forums that may be sellling something I'm looking for, considering I can't post in that forums as yet? Or do I have to wait until my post count is higher?

Cheers, Lee

[johnny]

Dude, by searching and asking an appropriate and well worded question, I think you've pretty much displayed the requirements for trading access. Apply and I shall grant access for you.

[Oracle]

Cheers Johnny, greatly appreciated! :cool:

[johnny]

All done, no problem.

Welcome to Farkin and good luck with your purchaces!

:)

[thrower78]

One thing that does get on my nerves with regards to trading is when people put "offers" or "make me an offer" and don't give you a ball park figure. On more than 1 ocasion I have offered someone what i thought was a reasonable price and was met with quite a rude resopnse along the line of don't be stupid etc.

If someone makes you an offer because that is what you have asked them to do, be polite about the response or just give all ball park figure.

[luke.b]

So true thrower. You only have to look at about 5 threads in the whole bikes section before one of them has "offers" in the price listing, and nothing else. The seller knows how much they are goung to get. There are too many of these threads, and then when someone, who is new, and doesn't know better offers something small, they are abused. It's not on. If you say "offers, but nothign stupid", and get a "stupid" offer, too bad. You should have put a price in your listing.

[Oracle]

I definitely agree guys - stating a ball park figure would certainly make it easier for the novice, as well as not wasting other members time sending fruitless pm's.

['Ross]

Im splitting my bike atm and therefore have been selling quite a few parts and Im very angry at the amount of users (mainly with a postcount of less than 50) who commit to buy then back out later due to 'parents wont let me' or 'wont fit on my bike' or 'cant afford it.' This becomes very annoying especially when users ask for my bank details commit to buying then when I ask why I havent received payment and they back out. I think some sort of system needs to be put in place to stop this, perhaps a punishment system for those who reguarly commit to buying things than backout, I have a list of abusers of the system if any mods want to know.:mad:

The last user who today commited to buying a bar and stem off me asked for my bank details then later said he thought they would be 'no good for his bike' I have decided to give bad feedback on his itrader, do others agree this is a good step? I am not just going to do it to anyone asking legitamate questions or even enquiring about a better price but its getting ridiculous.

[Scott]

That's what itrader is there for.

[Binaural]

That's what itrader is there for.

At least until iKickInTheNuts comes online later this year.

['Ross]

What if there is revenge negative feedback? I wouldnt want to jeapordise my own itrader because of some idiot abusing the system. I have left negative feedback for the user in question I predict he might do the same to me for no reason.

[|Matt|]

What if there is revenge negative feedback? I wouldnt want to jeapordise my own itrader because of some idiot abusing the system. I have left negative feedback for the user in question I predict he might do the same to me for no reason.

Yeah Ross, I had that.
As you may have seen on the forums, or maybe one of my bitch-fests on msn, about Tonka_202.

Well, he got his friend to put negative feedback onto my iTrader saying that I sold him pedals with rusted bearings or some shit.

I PM'd Ryan who was very understanding and banned the shithead. He also removed the negative feedback. Thanks a lot Ryan :)

[cressa]

Im splitting my bike atm and therefore have been selling quite a few parts and Im very angry at the amount of users (mainly with a postcount of less than 50) who commit to buy then back out later due to 'parents wont let me' or 'wont fit on my bike' or 'cant afford it.' This becomes very annoying especially when users ask for my bank details commit to buying then when I ask why I havent received payment and they back out. I think some sort of system needs to be put in place to stop this, perhaps a punishment system for those who reguarly commit to buying things than backout, I have a list of abusers of the system if any mods want to know.:mad:


I recently encountered a couple of "yep , i'll buy it, how do you want me to pay, how are you gonna send it". So you spend the time to figure it out, get postage costs, send bank details then recieve a "cool, just got to ask mum & dad" WTF! I wasted a lot of time on these people.

Buyers, please assure you have the money or permission to spend that much money before you commit to a purchase. Yes you can enquire and show your interest, but have the courtesy to be upfront about your situation.

[johnny]

Yeah Ross, I had that.
As you may have seen on the forums, or maybe one of my bitch-fests on msn, about Tonka_202.

Well, he got his friend to put negative feedback onto my iTrader saying that I sold him pedals with rusted bearings or some shit.

I PM'd Ryan who was very understanding and banned the shithead. He also removed the negative feedback. Thanks a lot Ryan :)Ah, good! I was sick of him PMing me and asking for trading access back. You'd think after being ignored for a while that he would have just left it, eh?

['Ross]

As predicted the user in question has just left me some negative feedback. Says I 'rushed' sale. Why ask for bank details etc if you dont want to buy the product. If a mod is kind enough to remove this rubbish feedback it would be appreciated. Thats the weakness of itrader, anyone can give you negative feedback. Its good that mods can change it so it is fair.

[julianwisbey]

Can i have a bad i trader removed ? i had left a negitve feedback on a member that promised to sell me brakes and i never recieved them .
they were sent cod and i never heard of him again i saw him around farkin but he would never return my emails or pms so can i have his bad comment removed
and what he said is totaly a lie .

Julian

[Ryan]

Done.

Sugez has also lost his trading access for being a fuckhead.

Take a note other would-be-fuckheads, if you have a bad trade, your first point-of-call should be an Administrator or Mod, not leaving a negative I-trader comment. If I'm alerted to any negative I-trader feedback that relates to an issue that hasn't been raised with a mod it will be treated as false and removed, as will your trading access.

[julianwisbey]

Thanks ryan next time this happens ( hopefully not again) you will be my first point of call

[luke_rowell]

Done.

Sugez has also lost his trading access for being a fuckhead.

Take a note other would-be-fuckheads, if you have a bad trade, your first point-of-call should be an Administrator or Mod, not leaving a negative I-trader comment. If I'm alerted to any negative I-trader feedback that relates to an issue that hasn't been raised with a mod it will be treated as false and removed, as will your trading access.

the above noted as a good thing not disputing that, but i thought the idea of the i trader was to let comments of trades to be left to the sort of experience they had with the the respective trader. of course it is open to some abuse by would farkers )but they seem to be weeded out very quickly)as you have stated, so before anyone puts a bad i trader comment you wish it to be viewed and scrutinized (cant spell that word) by a mod. i think it is worthwhile doing if the mods dont mind doing that little bit more work.

maybe in the i trader system it could be automaticaly sent to a mod when someone enters a bad i trader rating to be viewed before it can actually be viewed by any other members (not the reciepitent of course, which would allow him/her to try and come up with an explanation).

[Ryan]

I'm not sure you understand; you need to alert us to ALL bad trades regardless of whether or not you intend to leave negative I-trader feedback. We DON'T get any sort of automatic notice when negative feedback is entered, so we rely on users to tell us when they're having trouble with a buyer/seller as this is the only way we can weed out the idiots/shonks and, in the long term, protect you guys from trading with them and protect our reputation as a safe place to buy and sell gear.

Obviously I-trader is good for commenting on minor problems and for a quick reference when you're deciding whether or not to trade with someone, but if we're notified every time there's an issue we can establish if a particular user shows a pattern of unacceptable trading practices and remove their trading access or ban them altogether.

[Rik]

You're kidding right? If you can't figure out how to apply for trading access you definately don't deserve it.
Clue: open your eyes and read.

[tinto]

big question,how the hell do i get access to trade.who do i see to gain access??
http://forums.farkin.net/showthread.php?t=4932

[Ryan]

You should be using your brain and your eyes and reading the WHOLE "How To Gain Trading Access Thread" which you're obviously not doing now.

[chrisjack4]

Sorry ryan i have read the thread but because the thread was closed i assumed the contents were inactive.thanks

[-=Monty=-]

Can someone please help. I cant post new threads, or send private messages.

In firefox, if i do either, it just asks me to open the "private.php" file, or in IE, it just says the server has an error...

Is this happening to someone else?

[red.renault]

I had to PM Scottmeister as I didnt have trading access. Ended up buying his kona unit, no problems and an easy transaction, just goes to show not all PM's are spam i guess.

[spyder6052]

i have been recieving some interesting PM's from "Manitou" reguarding a v10 he wants to buy off of me? (funnily enough i dont own or ever have owned a v10) his first pm..... 'your v10"

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

hello,

i will buy your v10 if you still have it fag face let me know cunt and ill buy

thanks faget


my reply..

hey mate but i think you have the wrong person i dont even have a v10 so umm please try and refrain yourself from these childish pm's

btw i will be refering this to the admins

and his response to that

ooooooo the admins what are they gona do cock face?
you really are a wanka mate

it hink this person needs a perma ban from here

[Ryan]

Yeah dude, got your PM about that, already banned.

[Trapz]

I send lots of PM's to lots of people about buying bikes.

Just wondering if for some peculiar reason this is considered abuse?

Chris

[spyder6052]

Yeah dude, got your PM about that, already banned.


cheers ryan :D

[luke.b]

I send lots of PM's to lots of people about buying bikes.

Just wondering if for some peculiar reason this is considered abuse?

Chris

It's not abuse. But some people may get annoyed if you don't use correct punctuation, ask all questions first, tell the person if you are interested in buying or just inquiring about it.

I get annoyed when people pm me about buying some parts, but then later on say they don't actually have the money. Try and be as nice and as well spoken from the outset. Sending too many pm's about buying parts is usually called being a "tyrekicker". This isn't abuse, it's just annoying.

I particularly get annoyed when I pm someone about buying a part off them, and as for pictures and more info, but get nothing in return. Maybe I come across as a tyrekicker too. Probably.

We were all tyre kickers too, once.

I love white font.

[bools]

Year but some sellers are rood . The other day i asked a guy to text me the size of a thomson post he had for sale as he did not have the info size ect on his template . Well he text me all right .. 27.bla bla just like in the pic bla bla bla . That text i felt was rood and if the guy was in arms reach i would have smacked him . I think farkin need to have better guide lines for the sale of goods and be stricter on sellers ore get over threads like this . There seems to be many shades of grey on this sight ................

[johnny]

Maybe people might give more of a passing thought to your comments if you could try and spell with a little more credibility.

[leitch]

Year but some sellers are rood . The other day i asked a guy to text me the size of a thomson post he had for sale as he did not have the info size ect on his template . Well he text me all right .. 27.bla bla just like in the pic bla bla bla . That text i felt was rood and if the guy was in arms reach i would have smacked him . I think farkin need to have better guide lines for the sale of goods and be stricter on sellers ore get over threads like this . There seems to be many shades of grey on this sight ................
har har har. good luck getting anyone to listen to the crap you say. never thought maybe you could look in the pic yourself to see where it says 27.2x330 or whatever on the post? oh, and as johnny said, learn to spell

[bools]

har har har. good luck getting anyone to listen to the crap you say. never thought maybe you could look in the pic yourself to see where it says 27.2x330 or whatever on the post? oh, and as johnny said, learn to spell
Well my computer is not the best , slow and wont open a lot of stuff up .Im dislycsik and i screw most of my posts up sorry all .

[Venciferus]

Well my computer is not the best , slow and wont open a lot of stuff up .Im dislycsik and i screw most of my posts up sorry all .

I'm sure they didn't mean for those posts to come through aggressively, that's a problem with these forums, no expression. I learnt (the hard way) to be cautious of critiscizing spelling/grammar when roxy12 (Kristina) bit my head off! Just a note or warning to people quick to critiscize (can't really talk myself though)

[Treddly]

What frustrates me is that I'm new to Farkin, and I just want to buy a pre loved Stinky. But I can't right away thanks to the dickheads who disrespect the sellers and abuse other members. The funny thing is, I haven't met any of them while out riding in the past 7 years. Everyone I've come across out on the trails have been the most easy going, friendly people you'd meet.

You can't stop kids from getting into forums, wanting to buy all this great stuff without the dough, wasting the sellers time, and it seems the abusers get sorted out and banned by the administrators in the end. And I'm sure no-ones lost too much sleep over getting the odd abusive PM from a brat or two. So the system's still kinda working isn't it?

I'm 32. I don't need to ask Mum and Dad for money (I'll just apologize to my wife later:D ) I'm ranting because all I want is access to the Trading Area to buy a bike that someone wants so desperately to sell...

[Slacky]

What frustrates me is that I'm new to Farkin, and I just want to buy a pre loved Stinky. But I can't right away thanks to the dickheads who disrespect the sellers and abuse other members. The funny thing is, I haven't met any of them while out riding in the past 7 years. Everyone I've come across out on the trails have been the most easy going, friendly people you'd meet.

You can't stop kids from getting into forums, wanting to buy all this great stuff without the dough, wasting the sellers time, and it seems the abusers get sorted out and banned by the administrators in the end. And I'm sure no-ones lost too much sleep over getting the odd abusive PM from a brat or two. So the system's still kinda working isn't it?

I'm 32. I don't need to ask Mum and Dad for money (I'll just apologize to my wife later:D ) I'm ranting because all I want is access to the Trading Area to buy a bike that someone wants so desperately to sell...

have you sent what you just said to an admin they would probably give it to you for that explination

[Newman06]

I agree im also new to farkin and i have also found that alot of the members are ver harsh in what they say to junior members in the forum, if you make a mistake or post something in the wrong section the members wont just say " hey you better move that, they say they say you will eb arse raped" not good admin need to start looking out for other members treating juniour members who are getting used to farkin like crap, and just lend then a hand.:)

[sly_artichoke]

[...sellers regarding countless boneheaded private messages they've been getting from supposed 'potential buyers.']

Up until a couple of weeks ago, I hadn't even HEARD of FARKIN.NET.

Farkin' hell, sure, but not farkin.net. So thanks to Dave at Cheeky Monkey in Newtown. He suggested it would be a good place for trading, as I'd had trouble with said boneheads on another site while trying to sell my Scott Genius RC10. There are some dodgy characters out there for sure.

This Farkin thing is huge! So much more than just trading. So I look forward to getting amongst it.

Cheers to all you mud-bunnies out there.

Sly

[trouble]

[...sellers regarding countless boneheaded private messages they've been getting from supposed 'potential buyers.']

Up until a couple of weeks ago, I hadn't even HEARD of FARKIN.NET.

Farkin' hell, sure, but not farkin.net. So thanks to Dave at Cheeky Monkey in Newtown. He suggested it would be a good place for trading, as I'd had trouble with said boneheads on another site while trying to sell my Scott Genius RC10. There are some dodgy characters out there for sure.

This Farkin thing is huge! So much more than just trading. So I look forward to getting amongst it.

Cheers to all you mud-bunnies out there.

Sly
Agreed to all that, we should be a bit more welcoming to you newbs, but you have to remember that we get a few nebs that are just little shits making pointless posts and threads which piss of the poeple who have been here a bit, and most of the guys who have been here a for a fair while, if they are mean it's probly just what there like to everyone. Just cause your new doesn't mean you get treated differently. We dont look at your thingy going oh look he's a newb lets annoy the hell out of him or something. So sorry if some of us give you the wrong interpretation. But genrally most of us pretty keen guys....or girls as far as I know there a few now

And welcome,if not just from me but from farkin.net

[Dug]

I agree im also new to farkin and i have also found that alot of the members are ver harsh in what they say to junior members in the forum, if you make a mistake or post something in the wrong section the members wont just say " hey you better move that, they say they say you will eb arse raped" not good admin need to start looking out for other members treating juniour members who are getting used to farkin like crap, and just lend then a hand.:)

Always some who take ribbing a bit too far. Water off a Dugs back for me. I have generally found most to be helpful here and as for the rest their is always the delete button. Well administered and not too restrictive as to remove the exchange of stuff....

What you think of me is none of my business.

Overall Farkin best place on the net BAR NONE!..... Hmm Bar now their is a good idea

[Badwolfl69]

Im a 36 year old fart who accidently discovered Farkin.net... I cant believe the wealth of inormation on the dh scene locally. But what attracts me most is the trade side of it which I like. All the bikes for sale which boggled my mind and for a long time I was searching for a SC V10 and finally I have found.
But then reading the comments on this thread really pisses me off because some stupid individuals abuse sellers which then restricts junior members like me to negotiate with the sellers. the bike I want is being sold by RIGO. A white scv10. Pity I cant get through to him cause of restrictions. Thanks to you abusers, it will be a while till I hopefully get approved to trade.:(

[davido]

just bought some forks yesterday and this is my first post i think, so dont know what your access problems are?
All I did was give a written request for trader access (buying only )
and have had access ever since.
I certainly empathise with sellers though, some seem to get the dick around.

[goose15482]

Hi All...

I'm pretty new here...i've only been a member of Farkin for only a few months. So i don't quite know my way around yet. I'm a big fan of the trading forums and have found several items for my bike:D.
But this morning i found in my PM inbox that someone had SPAM'd me!!!! They advertised their website and something about Buddhism!!!! I won't paste it here to show everyone otherwise it justs encourages this useless problem. The user that sent me this SPAM is a newbee and has only been a member since 1 Jan 2008...so it seem obivous to me that their intensions on Farkin are to SPAM members.
My problem is...i'd like would like to send this to someone in admin so they can investiage the problem and take action. But i don't know who!!!! Can someone please tell me!!!!

Thanks Curtis

[Ryan]

PM me his name and I will deal with him.

[shredder dj]

Hi All...

I'm pretty new here...i've only been a member of Farkin for only a few months. So i don't quite know my way around yet. I'm a big fan of the trading forums and have found several items for my bike:D.
But this morning i found in my PM inbox that someone had SPAM'd me!!!! They advertised their website and something about Buddhism!!!! I won't paste it here to show everyone otherwise it justs encourages this useless problem. The user that sent me this SPAM is a newbee and has only been a member since 1 Jan 2008...so it seem obivous to me that their intensions on Farkin are to SPAM members.
My problem is...i'd like would like to send this to someone in admin so they can investiage the problem and take action. But i don't know who!!!! Can someone please tell me!!!!

Thanks Curtis

Yeah I got that message too, I replied asking what the hell he was on about?
And how he knew to message me, or was it just a random guess? Did anybody else receive a message anything like this?

[U.D.O]

not exactly trading related but i think its PM abuse
i got this PM a few days ago
whats confusing me that its a 'Re:' message, as if i'd sent him one and his replied but i've never sent a message to this guy :confused:
crazy spammers!
has any one else got this one?
because it seem like a copy paste kind of thing as its not exactly addressed to me!


Re: Norco Rival
Hi,
I'm new here, how's it going?

"Buddhism has the characteristics of what would be expected in a cosmic religion for the future: it transcends a personal God, avoids dogmas and theology; it covers both the natural & spiritual, and it is based on a religious sense aspiring from the experience of all things as a meaningful unity" - Albert Einstein

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turing2
http://www.freewebtown.com/turing

this guy is banned as well!

[goose15482]

Hi All...

I reported the SPAM to Ryan from Admin...and he confirmed that it was a SPAM Pm. He has banned the user...problem solved:D.

[aaronzor]

yeah check this out my mate "Nerf Herder" just received this in his inbox, asked me if i received one... check it

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Quote:
Originally Posted by turing2
Hi,
I'm new here, how's it going?

"Buddhism has the characteristics of what would be expected in a cosmic religion for the future: it transcends a personal God, avoids dogmas and theology; it covers both the natural & spiritual, and it is based on a religious sense aspiring from the experience of all things as a meaningful unity" - Albert Einstein

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turing2
http://www.freewebtown.com/turing

[dirtsurfer]

life/time/money is precious please get out on ya ya sweet economical and well purchased items, enjoying yo mates sweet experiences and yours and? c'mon u know the rest. don't mess with the crew! We are all funky family!
gf

[johnny]

Shut hippy mofo.

[zap]

And you guys thought I was weird :p

yeah check this out my mate "Nerf Herder" just received this in his inbox, asked me if i received one... check it

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Quote:
Originally Posted by turing2
Hi,
I'm new here, how's it going?

"Buddhism has the characteristics of what would be expected in a cosmic religion for the future: it transcends a personal God, avoids dogmas and theology; it covers both the natural & spiritual, and it is based on a religious sense aspiring from the experience of all things as a meaningful unity" - Albert Einstein

[tupper]

And you guys thought I was weird :p

We still do, your not forgotten

[pieboy5000]

this is my first auto track tell me what you guys think

5k 5a 5k 5u 4m 5u,2q 1s 2q 2q 1s 2q,-1s 18 -26 18,-2q 18 -18 18 -a 18,a 4m a 5a 18 5a,u 7g u 84 1s 84,u 7g u 76,1i 9m 1i aa,3o bi 3o cg 34 cg 2q cg,3o bi 3o b8,-k ec -k f0 a f0,-a h6 -a hq a hq,34 h6 34 i4 2g i4,a jc a k0 u ka,-a hg -a hq,26 mq 34 mq 34 ls,-3o oc -3o pa -34 pa -2g pa -2g oc##T -3e om,T 2q mg,T a hg,T k jm,T 2g hg,T 0 ec,B 42 cg 8e,T 3e bs,T 26 9m,T 1i 76,T u 4m,T 2g 26,T -a u

[shredder dj]

this is my first auto track tell me what you guys think

5k 5a 5k 5u 4m 5u,2q 1s 2q 2q 1s 2q,-1s 18 -26 18,-2q 18 -18 18 -a 18,a 4m a 5a 18 5a,u 7g u 84 1s 84,u 7g u 76,1i 9m 1i aa,3o bi 3o cg 34 cg 2q cg,3o bi 3o b8,-k ec -k f0 a f0,-a h6 -a hq a hq,34 h6 34 i4 2g i4,a jc a k0 u ka,-a hg -a hq,26 mq 34 mq 34 ls,-3o oc -3o pa -34 pa -2g pa -2g oc##T -3e om,T 2q mg,T a hg,T k jm,T 2g hg,T 0 ec,B 42 cg 8e,T 3e bs,T 26 9m,T 1i 76,T u 4m,T 2g 26,T -a u

I think you're actually looking for This Thread (http://forums.farkin.net/showthread.php?t=109151)

Oh well, what can ya do?

[MJStraughen]

Got that exact PM on another forum... I just hit the delete button whenever I get spam, easy enough solution, but I see what you mean when you say it wasn't obvious until you opened the message...

[DMan]

I just joined Farken. Fantastic site with great info for the novice. Cheers. But I've already had my first bad experience. I put in an offer on a bike here. He accepted. We exchanged emails saying so, so that we had a copy each if there was a problem. Even organised the freight and payment. Then he pulls out. If you're not sure you want to sell, don't fuck people around. When you commit to a deal then stay. I understand that the seller has the right to pull out but it's not good business to pull out when the deal is done and you've agreed to everything. Hopefully the next person I approach is a little more fucking mature. :mad:

[nmobbs]

Its good to read this information - in the end it is really about common sense and common courtesy. Someone's trash is always someone else's treasure so as long as buyers and sellers are reasonable with each other there should be a lot of MTB bits exchanging hands which is good.

[addmin]

slight bump-ish here.

but... if we (as a seller) have had someone tyre kick and waste our time via pm's what can/should we do?

What annoys me is the person in question here asked me numerous questions (postage, etc) and wasted my time for about a week and then at the end goes 'i need to see if it will even fit'. surely wasting somebodys time before you know if the thing will even fit your bike is not acceptable (i gave all the relavent details about sizing, etc in my ad)

this person doesnt have trading access and i can only hope that if and when they gets it they pick up their game.

ps: oh and the person in question has a spelling age of 1.. maybe 0


end rant:mad:

[CELL Bikes]

addmin,

welcome to the wonderful world of retail!

i get tons of people like this all day.

don't get me wrong, i don't mind answering questions, as i once was a newbie and am thankful for everyone that educated me about bikes, however, if someone is deliberately wasting your time, it's a bit rude.

-Mark, aka MR. CELL BiKES (http://www.cellbikes.com.au)


slight bump-ish here.

but... if we (as a seller) have had someone tyre kick and waste our time via pm's what can/should we do?

What annoys me is the person in question here asked me numerous questions (postage, etc) and wasted my time for about a week and then at the end goes 'i need to see if it will even fit'. surely wasting somebodys time before you know if the thing will even fit your bike is not acceptable (i gave all the relavent details about sizing, etc in my ad)

this person doesnt have trading access and i can only hope that if and when they gets it they pick up their game.

ps: oh and the person in question has a spelling age of 1.. maybe 0


end rant:mad:

[downhiller_1]

-Mark, aka MR. CELL BiKES (http://www.cellbikes.com.au)

dont people have to pay to advertise on this site...?

[stinkblot]

it kinda goes both ways. When people sell stuff they should write sold in the title or next to the item if its a multi sale. I pm people a lot to either get no response or sorry its sold. Some people are cool and answer my questions about sizing, uses etc... I bargain inc. Postage to get the best prices. I dont say i will buy it. Its negotiating. Admin could message people about items that have been inactive for a length of time. If they dont get back in a month or so... Delete the post. Saves wading through crap.

[addmin]

it kinda goes both ways. When people sell stuff they should write sold in the title or next to the item if its a multi sale. I pm people a lot to either get no response or sorry its sold. Some people are cool and answer my questions about sizing, uses etc... I bargain inc. Postage to get the best prices. I dont say i will buy it. Its negotiating. Admin could message people about items that have been inactive for a length of time. If they dont get back in a month or so... Delete the post. Saves wading through crap.


bargaining with someone over numerous pms and then saying at the end that the price isn't good enough is NOT acceptable

if its just one pm where you ask what the lowest they will go is, then thats different.

as to your idea of admins pm'ing people. Surely a persons common sense will tell them that an ad from 6 months ago is probably not still valid.

[stinkblot]

just a bit of housekeeping.

[my_bike]

This is not that related to the tread but I didn't want to make a new thread about this.
I have seen people with I-trade and what intrests me is, does everyone on Farkin who has trading accsess have one? If so can some one help me find mine?

[indica]

This is not that related to the tread but I didn't want to make a new thread about this.
I have seen people with I-trade and what intrests me is, does everyone on Farkin who has trading accsess have one? If so can some one help me find mine?

http://forums.farkin.net/itrader.php?u=21179

[my_bike]

Thanks indica for that.