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Hey all,
Just came across this site and thought I would get started by posting some pics of my trusty steed. Cheers to our bikes.
http://members.optusnet.com.au/standardoperatingprocedure/WEBSPACE/SantaCruz.jpg
http://members.optusnet.com.au/standardoperatingprocedure/WEBSPACE/Rohloff.jpg
http://members.optusnet.com.au/standardoperatingprocedure/WEBSPACE/zx12rpushie.jpg
http://members.optusnet.com.au/standardoperatingprocedure/WEBSPACE/forks.jpg
http://members.optusnet.com.au/standardoperatingprocedure/WEBSPACE/SantaCruzChameleon.jpg
http://members.optusnet.com.au/standardoperatingprocedure/WEBSPACE/SantaCruzDisc.jpg
wow, thats very nice, i'm glad SC have changed there disc mount for 04 though.
CHEWY
31-07-2003, 08:07 AM
wow... rohloff *drooool* very nice ride.
how long have u had the DJ3's? they havnt started creaking have they?
notb4dinner
31-07-2003, 08:27 AM
wow, thats very nice, i'm glad SC have changed there disc mount for 04 though.
Why is that? Putting the caliper there seemed like a reasonable solution to the problem of getting a disc wheel out of horizontal dropouts.
theres two calipers on the rear :shock: whats with that....ROHLOFF!!! I HATE YOU :lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:
welcome to farkin
wow... rohloff *drooool* very nice ride.
how long have u had the DJ3's? they havnt started creaking have they?
i think they are 2's
notb4dinner, because you bash it on stuff all the time and it's hard to route your lines in a way where they don't snag on sticks/wheels etc, the brisa between the chain/seatstay is probably best for horzontal drop outs (cept it's hard to adjust, or a sliding disc carrier maybe like on the cromo flow bikes.
fuzzy, if you run a disc with a rohloff you need an external shift box.
Dicky
01-08-2003, 02:07 PM
nice rig mate. looks like fun in traffic.
and yeah, putting the rear disc caliper under the dropouts is a bit odd, but when you think about it, there's already a rear mech doing exactly the same thing on the other side of the wheel...
...unless of course you've got a rohloff... :)
looks like about a 46 tooth front ring (RaceFace DH - nice one) - just wondering what sort of top speed at full crazy spin you're getting out of it?
kalem
01-08-2003, 03:16 PM
wow, thats very nice, i'm glad SC have changed there disc mount for 04 though.
Why is that? Putting the caliper there seemed like a reasonable solution to the problem of getting a disc wheel out of horizontal dropouts.
i've had two bikes with horizontal dropouts and discs, both had the tabs in the normal position neither had trouble getting the wheel out...
nice bike
Techno Destructo
01-08-2003, 03:29 PM
whats with that....ROHLOFF!!! I HATE YOU :lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:
welcome to farkin
Couldn't have said it better myself. Bastard!
Dicky: Close mate, its a 44 (have a spare 46 here that I'm thinking of putting on due to the fact that when I'm road-riding its not fast enough).
Its probably good for about 65-70 in a draft at extreme RPM. Problem is I don't use gears 1 thru 6 very often.
Used to be a courier so I ride in a heavy gear the majority of the time. That set of cranks are my 3rd pair, I keep on breaking them (lucky for the lifetime warranty!).
Squidly Didly
01-08-2003, 06:59 PM
Used to be a courier so I ride in a heavy gear the majority of the time. That set of cranks are my 3rd pair, I keep on breaking them (lucky for the lifetime warranty!).
Looks like you'll need a pair of Shimano Saint cranks for it when they come out!
Techno Destructo
02-08-2003, 07:15 AM
Hey sop, some more questions about your Rohloff, since it's rare to have someone on the forum who's dropped the cash on one...
Where did you get it and how much did it cost?
What kind of riding do you do? Much freeriding? Any dirtjumping? In other words, how much abuse have you dished out to it, and how's it holding up?
Was the weight shift to the back difficult to get used to?
Is there anything you don't like about the hub?
I notice that your chainline has a little bit of sag and you're not using chaintensioners on your horizontal dropouts (a la BMX)... any reason why?
fastrider gus
02-08-2003, 07:16 PM
Used to be a courier so I ride in a heavy gear the majority of the time. That set of cranks are my 3rd pair, I keep on breaking them (lucky for the lifetime warranty!).
Looks like you'll need a pair of Shimano Saint cranks for it when they come out!
i dont think they will be any better than the NS's...
:!: *PROFILE* :!:
Hey sop, some more questions about your Rohloff, since it's rare to have someone on the forum who's dropped the cash on one...
Where did you get it and how much did it cost?
What kind of riding do you do? Much freeriding? Any dirtjumping? In other words, how much abuse have you dished out to it, and how's it holding up?
Was the weight shift to the back difficult to get used to?
Is there anything you don't like about the hub?
I notice that your chainline has a little bit of sag and you're not using chaintensioners on your horizontal dropouts (a la BMX)... any reason why?
Alright Techno, some valid questions and here goes:
I bought it from SDV Bikes on Brisbane's Southside (formerly Street Dirt n Vert 0733941400. Good shop and they usually just stock performance DH/XC Bikes and Accessories. Owner's bike, last time I looked, was a nice SC V10 with a rrp of $15K). I think it was about $1500 but it was included in the entire cost of bike. I heard wholesale on them is about $800.
I haven't had the bike overly that long and I really don't ride it as much as I really want or am able to so technically I couldn't tell you how its held up to any sort of extreme use. It's supposed to be run-in for a 1000kms I hear and I'm not there yet. Sad, I know, but I work like a japanese beaver at the Airport at all hours and long story short.......
Noticeable but not annoying. The advantages far, far outweigh the disadvantages.
The only thing I don't like is the grip shifting. Personal opinion, some people like em. I just find it hard to shift while hanging on for dear life at points. Or while wheelieing.
Chain sag - poor maintanence. I've fixed that up since the photos. An impromptu flat tyre and change with a distinct lack of couldn't be bothered at that time. No, no reason. Don't really need them.
Moral of the story - I debated buying it for quite a while but in the end I am glad I did. When I bought the bike I was looking at it from a Courier's perspective (a courier who was cashed up at the time) and decided that not only does it look cool, its really functional, shifts very sweet, is reputedly extremely hard-wearing and reliable and gives good and varied ratios. Blah, blah, blah.
I'm happy with my ride as you can see. Kind of glad I don't courier on it or otherwise it would probably be destroyed by now.
Hey sop, what chain are you running on the cruz?
Which rear cog are you using, the 15, 16, or 17 tooth.
I have about 1800 kms on mine now and it is feeling smoother though the first 7 gears sound noisy while the top 7 are silent.
Watch out for the small amount of oil from the breather as it can get down near your disc and then oops.
Techno, some answers for you.
I find that the extra weight of the hub actually balances the bike better than normal when you are running a fork and disc on the front, and this should be even better on a hardtail. The bike sits level in the air and lands the same time after time.
I am running a 38 front and 16 rear which is equal to a 22-42 with an 11/32 rear.
Gear changes are the same over and over with just a small wrist movement or a large one if you want to dump about 8 shifts at once.
Fritta
05-08-2003, 08:03 PM
hmm nice bike sop wat year?
peachy
11-08-2003, 04:23 PM
oh my oh my oh my, i really do like thy bike!!!!
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