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Gluey_trails
13-06-2006, 07:41 PM
Building DJ'S

Location,Location, Location
Your location is almost critical because if you have an awesome place where it is flat and has water nearby and no run in it is like a chick in a gay bar, POINTLESS.

My tip is get a map or better use Google Earth (http://earth.google.com/download-earth.html) to sus out a good place to build. It should be near water, not close to roads or bypassers, have a good run in, have plenty of room for dj's, some shade because it does get hot riding and most importantly NOT in a national park.

Find two or three possible areas to build because more likely then not you will find that the place is unworkable or doesn't have the features of above.

http://aycu08.webshots.com/image/9527/2000472168825477787_rs.jpg

Equipment

Some equipment which is great to have down there are:
- Shovels
Shovels are the pynical tool to have down there. You should have one for shifting (a shifting one is a large headed one with curved sides. Sometimes also called grain shovels), one for digging (The digging shovel is usual circular head with a point to get into the ground. It also has a long wooden handle without that loop on the end), and a normal shovel (this shovel should have a short handel and a loop on the end with a flat bottom for shaping without the small bend areas).

- Hoes
Hoes are excellent things to use especially if digging a big pit or have an annoying root in the way. The heads of these come in big or small sizes. The smaller one is usually the better one to go for mainly because it doesn't have as much surface going through the dirt.

- Picks
Picks are the excellent tool to get through the pesty root or the hard clay. Great for digging pits and drainage. Just make sure you don't use an old one because the head tends to slide down the handle and could break your fingers if you aren't lucky.

- Buckets
Buckets are great to have down at your DJ's because they can shift dirt and carry water and are good if you can't get a wheelbarrow down into your area.

- Wheelbarrows
These things are the tank of building DJ's. Moving a heap of dirt is just that much easier with a wheelbarrow. Make sure your wheelbarrow has offroad tyres cause you don't want your dirt falling into the creek.

- Rakes + Brooms
Rakes are great for moving useless dirt out of the pit instead of using your shovel and missing and cutting into the lip. Brooms are also handy to sweep puddles out of your pit.

- Axe
An axe is handy for hammering in pickets cutting roots, chopping fallen trees and cutting wood into smaller pieces to fit into your jump. A hatchet is probably your best and cheepest way to go but those bigger ones are also awesome.

http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f383/wdshiver/B%20Hive/IMGP1690.jpg?t=1169290248

KEEP YOUR TOOLS WELL MAINTAINED!
It is essential to keep your tools clean, otherwise it will; Take more energy to do things, will cost you more money with replacing your tools, may cause injury if you're handel snaps.

Follow these steps: (Info taken from http://www.demesne.info/Garden-Help/Garden-Tool-Care.htm)
Wood parts
Wood handles on long and short tools need to be sanded and oiled at regular intervals, usually once a year is enough. Wipe off the handle to clean, and use little if any water. Use fine sand paper to smooth the surface. Remove the dust and rub linseed oil into the handle. Let it soak in. Use as much as it takes until it doesn't absorb any more. Wait about a half hour, then dry off any remaining on the surface.
Metal Parts
Once a year, clean metal surfaces with a wire brush to remove dirt and light rust.

If the rust is a bit worse, you can sometimes remove it by soaking the tool in white vinegar; otherwise, use steel wool. The extent of the rust determines what grade to use. Start with the least coarse grade you can to remove the rust. Once the rust is removed and the entire surface is clean, you can apply a rust-proofing primer. Steel wool and repaint any rough areas.

File the cutting edge of your metal tools to keep the blade sharp


Run In

To start you need either flat ground or a slight downhill slope to your jumps. Usually a downhill slope is best because it doesnt take it out of you when pedalling and you won't need as much space.

You basically need to clear the ground about a foot wide, maybe less but it doesn't really matter, aslong as you remove any debris under tyre which may cause alot of friction or effort out of your pedal. For instance Grass, Bark, Sand alot of the time he debris will eventually wear away from constant riding but if this does not work you need: Rake, broom, hoe to remove it.

If there is not enough room to get the speed consider putting in some berms to lengthen the run up by snaking it around or putting some pumps in to increase speed but unfortunatley you need to build pumps carefully so that you increase rather then decrease. To build pumps and berms look below.

Basically you just need to make a run in to get speed. So find your quickest root.

http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f383/wdshiver/B%20Hive/IMGP1693.jpg?t=1169290816

The DJ's
1. Firstly you need to work out where your Up Ramps (UR) and Down Ramps (DR) are going to be and where your line will be. you should mark it out with spray paint.

2. You need to then start digging your pit. Dig them nice and deep until you hit clay. Don't make drainage as yet because you want the clay to soak in the water to make it easier to dig or you get water from a nearby creek/lake/river/tap/(whatever).

3. Once the clay is fairly easily accessable(sp?) dig all the clay that you need. (make sure that the pit is in a nice curve so its a smooth transition from Down to Up)

4. Put logs or rocks or whatever object you find into the jumps as long as there hard just so you don't need as much clay and if need be put picks behind them so the logs don't roll. This is also covered HERE (http://forums.farkin.net/showthread.php?t=54703)

5. Put all your clay that you have in the area where you want your jump. Every once in a while you put clay in make sure you compact it hard jump up and down because if you compact when you've got all you clay there you will end up absolutely rooted from the ammount of effort.

6. Continue putting layers of clay onto the jump then Compacting. The jump will then be real solid and is ready for shaping.(You could even leave the shaping for another day just so it is easier to shape)

7. To shape the jump you will need to compact the face and top first so you can climb onto the top safety and be able to cut away hard clay without ruining or taking out chunks. (The top of the jump should have a flat top just so the lip won't crumble away)

8. Once this is done soak the jump again and soak it through and through. Get a flat faced shovel and hit the face the back and the side so it is smooth and is aesthetically(sp?) orgasmic.

9. Go to your local water supply and fill up a bottle. Poor water over the back of the shovel so the clay won't stick to the back of the shovel as this is extremely annoying and can sometimes reck the whole face. Compact the clay till it is smooth and it looks like chocolate mouse.(Mine once looked so good I licked it. Tasted good too).

10. Continue this for the entire face of both the DR and UR until your happy with how smooth it is and your BMX friends won't winge that its bumpy.

11. Leave the Jump for about 4-5 days maybe less if it has been sunny for 3 days in a row but to be sure leave it for 4-5 days.

12. If you want you can also put carpet on the lip and downramp to protect from breaking but if you build it properly it should be fine.

http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f383/wdshiver/B%20Hive/IMGP1687.jpg?t=1169290758




The Pit
A pit should be as deep as you want it or simply deep enough so you get enough dirt out of it. The pit we made is about thigh deep and is a continuous curve from the bottom of the DR to the start of the UR.

Get your mates to help dig and you will be amazed how quick a pit gets dug. Red Cordial makes 'em work faster.
http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f383/wdshiver/B%20Hive/IMGP1858.jpg

Drainage
A pit should usually have drainage which can which drains unwanted water into a puddle where it won't be in the way or where the water could be used to water the jumps. As pictured below, a slight trench has been cut on the side of the pit. Once the rain comes and if your pit is in a nice curved shape it should flow into the trench and once the trench starts filling up it will go into the pipe leading into the the hole. There for a dry pit to be jumped the next day.

NOTE: The end of the drainage should be lower then the lowest point of the pit.

http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f383/wdshiver/B%20Hive/IMGP1689.jpghttp://aycu34.webshots.com/image/7073/2005741524411102701_rs.jpg

Berms
Berms aren't a neccessaty(sp?) at your DJ's only if the run in is abit tricky. To build a good berm you need to put pickets at where you propose the back of your berm to be. Pile up logs and things of that sort just so you don't need too much dirt. Dig down at where you propose the front of your berm and put the dirt on the logs.Continue this proccess around the whole berm until you are happy. Compact the dirt until it is hard and water down. Don't get to fussy about smoothing it as it will be the most torn up part of the track. Also covered HERE (http://forums.farkin.net/showthread.php?t=53752)

Pumps
Pumps are the piles of dirt you put on a really big tree or log which isn't possible to move. It may slow you don't but you will find that out when you are doing the practice run-ins. The pump should have a gradual lift up and a steeper down bit just so you can possibly get some speed back.

END RESULT! :eek: These DJ's were built within only 2-3 Months:eek:
http://i104.photobucket.com/albums/m164/tommyd2074/B-Hive.jpg


Photos have been produced by wdshiver and is of non-existant/destroyed Jumps

saint16
16-07-2006, 03:13 PM
hey man, so helpful thanks heaps! just one more thing, do u think its better to build jumps on a slighted sloped downhill or on flat? im looking at building rythms as well as single jumps, cheers! :D

Gluey_trails
16-07-2006, 03:53 PM
Hey mate. I think a downhill slope would be alright for just seperate jump here and there because it is a naturally made down ramp but in the instance of rhythms i believe you should have a downhill run in and a flat area for your jumps because that way you will firstly will be easier to jump them (IMO) and if your jumps are built nicely and perfectly with the right distance then you will constantly get speed but if you are new to making jumps and they are a fair distance apart then building them on a slight slope won't hurt.

mpdowling
17-07-2006, 09:29 PM
hey gluey,

just with the guys question above you,

it does make life alot easier on a slope, it means you can carry pace through the pack easier. you can mantain your pace, and easially build up to larger jumps thorugh the pack

please ask more questions i havn't posted this very well, so if it doens't make sense please say :)

hinga1
21-08-2006, 06:51 AM
it does make life alot easier on a slope, it means you can carry pace through the pack easier. you can mantain your pace, and easially build up to larger jumps thorugh the pack


well IMO i dont think you should need a slope to get through a set of rythems if they are built well. If your on a slope every jump has to be a step up because you are forever clearing it way to easy otherwise. But thats just me i prefer going through trails slow and high so i think its a bit of personal preference.

HYOSHIMO
21-08-2006, 10:37 AM
whilst you have some valid points hinga, there is a vast difference between trails on a slope and going downhill, downhill the jumps are what i like to describe as proper trails as their size and distance increase with every jump whilst jumps on flat can only remain within the size of the first one and even then its pretty limited.......

as for the guy that started this congrats on starting something to help some of the new trails guys out on here but really you should of posted a pic of the jumps with the logs and crap buried as that just decreases a jumps lifespan and etc etc.... so yeah my imput would be bury everything then pack the shit outta the jump espescially back and sides and ride the bastard in......

hinga1
21-08-2006, 05:22 PM
whilst you have some valid points hinga, there is a vast difference between trails on a slope and going downhill, downhill the jumps are what i like to describe as proper trails as their size and distance increase with every jump whilst jumps on flat can only remain within the size of the first one and even then its pretty limited.......

as for the guy that started this congrats on starting something to help some of the new trails guys out on here but really you should of posted a pic of the jumps with the logs and crap buried as that just decreases a jumps lifespan and etc etc.... so yeah my imput would be bury everything then pack the shit outta the jump espescially back and sides and ride the bastard in......

yes i suppose your right as long as the trails are built properly they should be fine running downhill but i still think its better to try and keep it to a slight slope or flat.

And yes im with you about the logs etc i wouldnt put any of that stuff in any of my jumps its dodgey and it brakes over time....

meatlovers
28-08-2006, 05:16 PM
Hey, another tip, if the jump is accessible by car, then you could use the car to flatten the jump and compact it. it helped make mine stronger.:)

djdom
28-08-2006, 05:30 PM
must have been a wide jump woow

Gluey_trails
28-08-2006, 05:36 PM
Hinga1 & HYPOMISHO

There are a few good points here. I do agree that having jumps completley made out of dirt is great and jumps which you want to have there for ages would be a good idea to build it completley out of dirt but the problem is, it takes a long time to dig a large ammount of dirt out for the jump. If you don't want to use logs due to possibly rotting and ruining the jumps then you can use big rocks - when I last checked they don't rot.

Meatlovers

The idea of using a car is great - depending on what you're making and whether you have a pit in between. Also having a jump wide enough is also a problem. I personally believe beating it down with a shovel each time you put dirt on works a treat and just riding it in also works. But yes, none-the-less your point is correct thats if the jumps are wide enough and don't have a put in between.

Gluey

konabob
30-08-2006, 04:06 PM
hey just wanting some advice on building jumps with volcanic soil. Are there any methods thet work well? attached is a pic of the area.

tim_69
30-08-2006, 04:40 PM
I usually use the shovel in ground method but meh you could get dirt delivered.

Mattydv
30-08-2006, 04:54 PM
I usually use the shovel in ground method but meh you could get dirt delivered.

Haha. Isn't volcanic soil very similar to ordinary soil just the nutrient value is way higher... and it's orange?

Gluey_trails
30-08-2006, 06:08 PM
Hey bud, All i can really suggest is dig deeper or possibley use some lime crystals to make the dirt alittle more useful. Hope this helps bud.

konabob
30-08-2006, 06:37 PM
yes its just dirt but looking at this thread it says dig deep use clay. if i dig deep i hit rock.

extreme_ride
03-09-2006, 06:48 PM
hey this isnt really do do with dj's but anyway i was wondering what would be the best way to build a drop off. The area i was hoping to build in has about a 70 degree incline and is close to a river so i dont want to cause erosion oh and its about 10m high

stp2tom
05-09-2006, 07:03 PM
never put stuff in the jumps if you are going to make it bigger cause it is a pain in the arse digging it up again
and if the jump wheres down to much stuff sticks out

44gallon drums are good if your keeping your jumps the same though.

Gluey_trails
15-10-2006, 07:45 PM
Well,

To start you need either flat ground or a slight downhill slope to your jumps. Usually a downhill slope is best because it doesnt take it out of you when pedalling and you won't need as much space.

You basically need to clear the ground about a foot wide, maybe less but it doesn't really matter, aslong as you remove any debris under tyre which may cause alot of friction or effort out of your pedal. For instance Grass, Bark, Sand alot of the time he debris will eventually wear away from constant riding but if this does not work you need: Rake, broom, hoe to remove it.

If there is not enough room to get the speed consider putting in some berms to lengthen the run up by snaking it around or putting some pumps in to increase speed but unfortunatley you need to build pumps carefully so that you increase rather then decrease. To build pumps and berms look at the first post but otherwise just use your gut feeling.

Basically you just need to make a run in to get speed. So find your quickest root.

gr33ky
09-11-2006, 08:17 PM
never put stuff in the jumps if you are going to make it bigger cause it is a pain in the arse digging it up again
and if the jump wheres down to much stuff sticks out

44gallon drums are good if your keeping your jumps the same though.

if you were going to make the jump bigger.. why would you have to dig it up.. wouldn't you just pile more dirt on top of the jump..
or am i just totally missing out on something?:confused:

Chandler_DJer
09-11-2006, 08:41 PM
you might need to move the jump/s so that it is the right height and distance. if you keep putting dirt on a jump which is not the right distance.
ie to close they can become very very vert.
not so bad when you have a long distacne to jump.

kyleman
13-11-2006, 08:50 PM
wow...that guide improves on my method a bit.. :P
LOl and yer i never thought of using google earth :D
Thanks mate great post.

letthiswork1
20-11-2006, 06:48 AM
Cheers mate! they are some rl good tips!

GodPunchedMe
04-12-2006, 08:01 PM
Brilliant, thats possibly the most helpful post ive read in the last year.
Thanks alot Gluey, great help, ive got a heap of empty non-national park land about 20min ride from my house, would salt water suffice or do i have to use fresh, my dad orders water in big 15lt bottles, i could fill them up at the closest ocean then wheelbarrow them up to the jump area, of find a tap in the area.
Peace
Gabriel

Gluey_trails
04-12-2006, 08:56 PM
Brilliant, thats possibly the most helpful post ive read in the last year.
Thanks alot Gluey, great help, ive got a heap of empty non-national park land about 20min ride from my house, would salt water suffice or do i have to use fresh, my dad orders water in big 15lt bottles, i could fill them up at the closest ocean then wheelbarrow them up to the jump area, of find a tap in the area.
Peace
Gabriel

Tricky Question mate, give it a go, see what happens. But the salt water would be awesome to clear grass and the likes for the run up (I believe salt water would kill it). But yeah give it a go, trying something doesn't usually kill anyone.

mtb_slipknot_fan
04-12-2006, 09:23 PM
Well it probably wouldnt be much of a problem. Your jumps might smell a bit salty though. And there would be salt flakes through the soil. But if i had the option of using saltwater i probably would give it a shot.


Chris

philfbm
13-12-2006, 10:41 AM
a good way to get dirt if you cant be bothered digging for it is to go down to a local construction site with a trailer and just ask em to fill you up 8 times out of ten they are willing to help you out

AdrenalineJunkie
12-01-2007, 12:17 PM
Great description on how to build dirt jumps:)

u kno how said it helps to put pickets where the is going to go
do u really nead them?

Yes it was a great description, did you notice how easy it was to read? amazing what happens when you proof before you post.... :rolleyes:

Use common sense with the pickets mate... if the logs are shifting fowards when you start compacting you should've used pickets. Personally, i say if you're building on a flat i like to dig my bottom logs/rocks/drums watever into the ground a little bit to create a stable base, however if it's slopped at all i usually add pickets too. As i said before if it's shifting add pickets.


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Gluey_trails
20-01-2007, 08:01 PM
thanks for that info mate also wherre are those jumps are they in tas ? cos i would like to visit them if they are
-Tom

They arent in Tasmania

As said by Big_Chief they are not in Tasmania, I actually do not live in Tasmania, I have stated that in My location because when posting pictures of the DJ's that I have constructed people will not go and seek them if they are in the area. Get my Drift?

P.S.Updates to this thread will occur soon with infomation from other threads have been added.

christop
15-02-2007, 08:38 AM
Those are nice jumps there are jump near my place well they where till the little primary school guys come and smash them all up:mad:

Thanks for the advice on how to biuld jumps like that buts it a bit hard for me to get the tools unless i sneak them out of my dads shed that does not go down well when i show him the jumps and the tools are they and they are rusted.

Do you put stuff under the dirt like logs,crates,rocks???
I do but they fall apart after about 5 goes at the jump.

Thanks christop:cool:

fireman_sam
18-02-2007, 08:37 PM
gday
what a fine effort there mate. I myself am in the process of building some dirt jumps and i was having a lot of trouble trying to put a steep lip on it to get more air. The conditions arent the best as its fairly dry but the surroundings offer huge potential.

ranga_54
21-03-2007, 04:38 PM
Those are some gnarly as jumps.

I find that when building the upramps the main thing do do is use some rocks, branches, logs, whatever you can really get to make the main base and then just cover it up with a whole heap of dirt untill you get the right steepnest and length you want. Dirt is the key.

Downramps are usually built the same way. Watch out for spiders and stuff when carrying logs and all that though.

Rang.

Gluey_trails
14-04-2007, 07:25 PM
I have just updated the initial post with How to maintain your tools. Give me some ideas of what to add to the thread. I enjoy helping you guys out

djrider
24-04-2007, 09:39 PM
yeah its not a good idea to build on national park, the rangers don't seem to like it much:)

Stack Shack
13-05-2007, 05:39 PM
hey guys. i live on a farm and me and my bros have bieng making some dj we had a bobcat move some of the dirt but some of the latest ones are just dirt we dug from pits. my friends made some jumps in the church yard across from thier house. make sure you dont have any logs or wood under your jumps exposed cause people will come and rip it out

craigh1
16-05-2007, 06:35 PM
thanks for the advice i once tryed buiding dirt jumps and they did not have very much air time so we got no tricks in on them because no time for it so it was just rolling over them but now i found a good place to build them and decent ones too even though it took the crew the whole holidays to complete because of clearing old trees etc. but in the end they were the maddest jumps ever with a bit of northshore too thanks mate, craig

kushy
11-06-2007, 09:38 PM
dude they look sweat wanna ride them :P i just wanna inforce something that i now u have probably mentioned which is DONT TELL ANYONE BESIDE THE MAKERS. U will have all these pricks come and then little kids will ficked them up and make em smaller and shit like that. Anyways sweat set of dj's/

Jack122
15-06-2007, 07:31 PM
hey there, u no quiet a bit about picking ya tracks have you ever considered with the tools using a braod toothed rake it works well if the ground coverage is thick.

Jack122

Jack122
16-06-2007, 09:30 PM
i gotta say i was starting to go the wrong way about building DJs, but perhaps you've set me straight.

Thanks-a-million!:D:D:D Jack122

digtrails
19-06-2007, 03:17 PM
http://forums.farkin.net/showthread.php?p=1006712#post1006712

do-a-flip
01-07-2007, 07:56 PM
nice jumps!

nice pics and looks as though you have put alot of effort into this

i'd love some action shots of you guys showing how to ride the jumps aswell as building em!

cheers

tidlibitz
24-07-2007, 07:44 PM
this is the best

im makeing my own djs and i dont have much space to work in

ill post some pics soon

do u no any ways to make the jumps fit in to small spaces

i also have some verry short trails at the same place

Harry B
27-07-2007, 07:15 PM
Hey thanks for the tips. I took them to action and the pit really works.

dillon22
09-08-2007, 06:02 PM
hey, that is a really good, imforming post there, thanks for all the information and tips, just one question, when you suggested taking shovels, tools and a wheel barrow and everything else, do you just leave it all there, or do you take it back and forth each time you go? And also how did you get the wheel barrow there in the first place? thanks heaps,
dillon

sandford-photography
17-08-2007, 08:31 PM
personaly i would say once the trails r finished u take all your tools away and just leave a camping spade. because ppl will find them and change something and or they will get stolen where with a camping spade it is to small to do major things to the jumps bit it is good enough to get rid ov sand and dust

Chuteboxe
09-09-2007, 08:03 PM
:confused:Is there a perfect angle to build up and down ramps on? or some kind of equasion envolving distance and angle of slope to work out that will give you good results? or is it all just trial and error?:confused: I just know when your building Kickers and ramps there is usaly some kind of maths involved to get the right angled slope. (I hate maths.) but I guess working with wood you can be much more accurate than with dirt?

gday
19-09-2007, 01:40 PM
not bad mate!
make em mass lol
flip em

azlex
15-10-2007, 03:16 PM
great advice mate. thanks so much for that... i have just started building at a new spot but it does not have a decent water source. is it critical to have one? should i look for a new spot before continueing or keep building there anway?

Gluey_trails
15-10-2007, 03:19 PM
great advice mate. thanks so much for that... i have just started building at a new spot but it does not have a decent water source. is it critical to have one? should i look for a new spot before continueing or keep building there anway?

It isn't necessary but it always helps, if the soil is rather moist and can compact easily it should be alright. Just give the spot your building at some time and see how it turns out, you may be able to pull it off without water. You never know.

Good Luck

jirtdumpdan
26-10-2007, 05:25 PM
Gluey, any tips on building mellow lipped speed jumps?

grim_stuff
28-11-2007, 09:21 PM
this is realy good info thanks your pics have giving me sweat ideas:D cheers

scorpia26
03-12-2007, 05:51 PM
Hey guys! Love the post.:D Just wondering... what would be a suitable distance to build doubles? :confused:I just started building some single jumps in my local area. So some idea or rough distance should be good.

Thanks alot

mayo
03-12-2007, 06:11 PM
hey mate
just depends on the angle of the hill, how big or how far you wanna go or what not

personally i like going for a 2-3 m gap that boosts you high in the air great for tricks and very nice to pump aswell, the ur is normally 3-4 foot and the down ramps are a tiny bit bigger.


hope this helps

scorpia26
03-12-2007, 06:17 PM
hey mate
just depends on the angle of the hill, how big or how far you wanna go or what not

personally i like going for a 2-3 m gap that boosts you high in the air great for tricks and very nice to pump aswell, the ur is normally 3-4 foot and the down ramps are a tiny bit bigger.


hope this helps

Thanks that helps alot :)

Curlz12
13-12-2007, 05:37 PM
CHeers thats really handy for what i want to do.
But where im building it pretty much all clay.
Would the best option be to get some truck loads of dirt?

Zac_DK
25-12-2007, 11:32 PM
Gluey would I be able to post this with credit to you on BMX-Forum.com?

Cheers

Gluey_trails
26-12-2007, 08:02 PM
I'd love you to. Please also post somewhere that its been supported by www.dukesofdirt.com

Zac_DK
26-12-2007, 09:10 PM
ok thanks for allowing me to do that gluey.

Zac_DK
26-12-2007, 09:52 PM
http://www.bmx-forum.com/showthread.php?p=1379970#post1379970

the credit I have used to you is sufficient?

Gluey_trails
27-12-2007, 07:27 AM
Perfect... Good to hear they like it too.

Zac_DK
27-12-2007, 09:49 AM
Perfect... Good to hear they like it too.

:) Thanks for letting me use it. Very appreciated.

GNARKILL
05-01-2008, 07:51 PM
Cheers for the info, was a great help.:)

biggyjimmy
18-01-2008, 12:29 PM
Do you put stuff under the dirt like logs,crates,rocks???
I do but they fall apart after about 5 goes at the jump.

Thanks christop:cool:

When using logs as a base undere the jump, be sure it isnt old and rotted out. If the log is rotten, you can find that the weight of the jump will eventually crush the log and ruin the jump.
So i would steer clear of uing logs under the jump.
Rocks work well, but the best is just more dirt.

specialized07
28-01-2008, 06:12 PM
hey we found a heaps good location for some trails and dirt jumps and the rest
its got access to water about 10 metres away but the only problem is that the dirt is really hard:(. after about 2 hours of digging we only got and upramp done and its only waist height. we have tried digging pits but the best we can do is get about ten centimetres down and even doing that takes all the effort out of us. any suggestions would be awsome.
cheers sam:D

Gluey_trails
28-01-2008, 06:19 PM
hey we found a heaps good location for some trails and dirt jumps and the rest
its got access to water about 10 metres away but the only problem is that the dirt is really hard:(. after about 2 hours of digging we only got and upramp done and its only waist height. we have tried digging pits but the best we can do is get about ten centimetres down and even doing that takes all the effort out of us. any suggestions would be awsome.
cheers sam:D

Hey Sam,

Are you only using shovels? If so it is probably worth your while to go and buy a pick. It will allow you to be able to loosen dirt quickly and effectively. If you have a pick, then maybe use the side which is not curved to puncture holes into the ground. Following that, get a bucket of water or maybe a watering can and douse the area with water, leave it for a little bit - have a rest or work on something else - come back and the water should hopefully have penetrated the dirt and made it a little easier to work with/ dig.

A little less efficient would be to get a wheel barrow, find a spot with nice dirt which is easy to access and shovel it into the wheelbarrow to transport to your jump. Quite time consuming and usually very irritating but always an option.

forsymj
30-01-2008, 12:53 PM
awsome :cool:
gotta try this
me and my mate built a track similar to this then some guys trashed it:mad:

ethan_woni
11-02-2008, 03:31 PM
yeah man nice jumps, look like good fun.
you would alll probablylaugh at my jumps, they are built inthe worst place. its a trail about 4 metres wide, and its built on a massvie hill.

the ground is full of rocks so its a pain in the arse to ride on/dig so weve built only 3 jumps about 1 foot tall.

rider_jake
11-02-2008, 05:00 PM
cheers man this thread has helped heaps. at our local jumps all the lips get recked really quickly and the only lip thats lasted is the one i hand packed and its kept its shape without cracking for over 4 months of abuse from riders and little kids running over it.:)

dj kid
07-03-2008, 05:51 PM
hey man that info is great! can u tell me where it is coz they look like some good jumps?? thanx man

NeeBean
13-03-2008, 03:42 PM
Hey thanks for the ideas, iv been looking for a good spot for a while and nothing is showing up. I live in Eltham and every time people build some new jumps the council knocks them down. Its rediculous. IM moving to Canada!

repas2
01-04-2008, 06:16 PM
they are the sickest jumps i've seen, are they yours. ohhh and good info.

crazzy dazzy
14-04-2008, 09:50 PM
hey mate very handy info thanks alot.

lomba
17-04-2008, 07:15 PM
hey mate........... how far do you rekon a set of jumps should be apart from the DR to the UR?????? :confused:

willipa
04-05-2008, 08:33 PM
hey mate........... how far do you rekon a set of jumps should be apart from the DR to the UR?????? :confused:

Not too close, if you overshoot you don't want to land on the next jump. Not too far that you loose momentum. Best just to experiment there is no set distance. If you build them too far apart you can always add a roller in the middle. :)

CJ-666
29-05-2008, 11:39 AM
hey mate........... how far do you rekon a set of jumps should be apart from the DR to the UR?????? :confused:

It all depends on how high the jumps are, if they are going down hill or if you want to connect them as rhythms. I've built some different ones on different locations but if you are cutting rhythms through a heavily tree'd area then make sure you cut a wide enough track. Speaking from bad experiences building little jumps, I think their were about 4 - 5 in a row and about 1.5 metres apart and I hit the second and third ones off-line and played ping-pong with the trees.

But yeah their is no real specs to judge distances except, build a jump and try it. If it's too far or too short you will find out quick smart. I started out with a small tabletop and then cut the middle out and used the extra dirt to build up the UR and extend the DR.

Hope this helps.

P.S. Really good info from the first post I will be using some of the points in the future.

mty10@
30-05-2008, 05:25 AM
Hey mate, thanks for the tips, do you have any comment/sugestons on building Tabletops?
REASON:

The local trails are used by kids, if they can't ride a jump they pull it down or add pallets in between to make a table top, COMPLETLY ruenig the jump. But if they

a. Crash bad
b. Get annoyed when we put in a bigger set
c. Show there mates

The word of the jumps will get out, and then were stuffed!

Pleases help?

CJ-666
30-05-2008, 11:41 AM
comment/sugestons on building Tabletops?

The easiest way I used to build up the center of a jump was to use crap loads of old tyres. It was cause people used to dump them in the bush near the jumps.
It was heaps easier than filling the center up with dirt. Or just build some little ones that people can use without caring if they get stuffed.
Another way I used was to dig out the dirt in front of the up and down ramps so that you don't need to cut as much out of the center, but keep in mind this really only works for smaller type rhythm jumps (other-wise it would take you forever to make a big enough UR and DR's.

CRANK_kona
25-06-2008, 07:20 PM
im planning on building a trail which goes to a DH track onto DJ's it includes: 3m gaps taple tops, berms, rhythems spines a 360* wallride and heaps more
the DH track is made up of berms, 1.5m drops gaps all made of wood and natural recources. i havent started making it yet but ive designed it. When i do then DH track to enter the DJ's how should it start e.g berm jump gap drop
what bike should i use to do this
thanks.:D

dj ben
28-06-2008, 12:03 PM
thanks for the handy tips.:) by the way those jumps you built are very nice.:cool:

Jim21
20-07-2008, 10:18 PM
thanks for this great piece of info, i'm building some DJ's soon, i got a massive pile of clay and a bobcat and lil excavator to move all my dirt and make burms:D
i'm on flat land but i have enough dirt and enough HP to make a good run in, hope it works:)

GIANTfanatic
01-08-2008, 04:57 PM
Hey thanks for the info, i've been experimenting with fallen trees on the trail for the UR and it works pretty well, but do you have any tips on how to shape a jump for distance rather then height, i've tried with ski drop downs but they don't work too well especially if the person trying it hits the DR...any pointers??

bmx_jakex-dirtjumper
08-08-2008, 07:07 PM
hey gluey thats sweet advice i might start some were we got hills and bush everywere so ill look around. thank you for the good info!!!!:D

silver.shad
12-08-2008, 08:38 PM
Hey thanks for the info really, really helpfull :D just wondering how do you know you've go that perfect spot (i live on a property and all the places i think will be good are either to rocky and or to hard to work with and i'm having alot of trouble trying to find that perfect spot)

once again cheers for the info

silver shad

p.s the jusps look SWEET!!!!!

Dh Veney
27-08-2008, 01:05 PM
Thanks for that. Great info. Now i will need to keep an eye out for a possible place for my jumps. :D

Gluey_trails
27-08-2008, 05:29 PM
do all big wheel riders build trails and then not ride them and let bmxers take them over?

What are you implying/ asking? I don't get it!

kona kid123
08-09-2008, 08:35 PM
hey mate nice jumps!
you gave me and my mates some good ideas for our dj's, im just wondering how deep did out the pits before the jumps.
jimmy:)

thatdirtjumperkid
22-09-2008, 12:32 PM
MAD jumps!
Good post
we just found a new DJ spot .
will take your advice and use it (Y)

dj kid
09-10-2008, 04:28 PM
hey mate nice jumps!
you gave me and my mates some good ideas for our dj's, im just wondering how deep did out the pits before the jumps.
jimmy:)

i think he means how deep did u dig out the pits, i also build with him and this thread was helpful!! thanx alot.
mitch

A_DOGS
23-10-2008, 11:01 AM
When building trails is it a good idea to canoe the lips and landings, also what would be the best type of track if there a quite a few large trees in the area.

jackmanmtb
29-11-2008, 02:09 PM
Hey man.These are awsome and to complete them in that amount of time is impressive.Well done and thatnks for the tips.

ale_xan_der
04-12-2008, 01:24 PM
Thanks alot guys

bigdannybro101
04-12-2008, 03:41 PM
nicely done

Gareth666
08-12-2008, 08:50 PM
yo! real good thread thanks for the advice.

the mish thing with my town there isnt good dirt! haha.

some good pics aswell. good work :)

andy_man
11-12-2008, 09:04 PM
thanks for this mate, this is actually a huge help.


good on ya on the jumps to, well done.

brydon119
13-12-2008, 08:41 PM
im 12 years old and love riding bmxs. I ride doubles and tracks.
ive recently made a double with about a 1 and a half gap and it is far TOO small. any suggestions on how big a gap would be good a intermediate skilled rider???

Jordann1
18-12-2008, 08:34 PM
Loved your tips on building dirt jumps and this should help more people get out there and build.
The dirtman