Toowoomba XC ride 15/11 am

[toowoombarider]

Anyone interested in a XC ride on Saturday morning. If so where??

[toowoombarider]

Good to see MTB alive and well in Toowoomba!!!!!!

[MrPlow]

Thats the style Toowoomba riders :roll: What is it with this place! Look at other areas that get great response for rides... and Toowoomba gets none :? And this is the home of mountain FARKIN biking! Are we all such snobs? There are heaps of riders in town and on these forums so what is the go???!!
LETS RIDE!!!???
I did Coot tha this morning and everybody says g'day and friendly etc. Even got offered a lift to the top. Am I missing something here or is Toowoomba the only bunch of people on this forum who are too scared to hook up for a ride :roll:
:Steps off soap box:
:) :oops:

[Timmy]

You must have some great rides around Toowoomba. Right on the edge of the range. I may be in the area first week of december. Ill be up for a ride then for sure.

[toowoombarider]

Oh well. No riding again this week. Will just have to wait until I get to Brisbane next. Must agree Mr Plow!! The guys and girls in Brissie are very friendly. Went to Fellcrag to watch the 4x4 today and met up with a number of guys from MTB Dirt who had all come along to support 2 of the guys from that site. Yep, believe it or not they drove all the way from Brisbane to Beudesert just to support these guys. And I can't even find one person who will take the time to PM or respond to a post looking for someone to ride with in my own town.
Timmy and Mr Plow feel free to PM me if you want to ride but I can't be bothered posting here any more. Seems that if you are not wanting to talk about downhilling or dirt jumping you are wasting your typing.

:x

[Ty]

theres dirt jumps in toowoomba?

[toowoombarider]

theres dirt jumps in toowoomba?

Not the point. The point is that despite the fact that I know that there are plenty of MTB people in Toowoomba it would appear that noone is willing to respond. I am not the only one that this has happened to. I have seen other Toowoomba posts where there have been no responses. From discussions offsite this problem is rife in Toowoomba in that nothing gets organised due to the apathy of local riders to being involved. I know that noone wants to have to orgainse everything but how hard is it to respond to a post. It is interesting to look at what happens on MTBDirt. These guys rock!!!! You post that you are looking for a ride and next thing you have 3 or 4 replies from different areas of Brisbane. Anyway, no worries I couldn't be bothered. I will join the ranks of the apathetic!!!!!

[Ty]

what is this mtbdirt you speak of?

[toowoombarider]

what is this mtbdirt you speak of?

Ty

Someone who is with Admin of this site and who supposedly has a keen interest in the sport of MTB should know who these guy's are. Do your homework (a simple websearch will suffice).

Again I question the validity of your question anyway. :roll:
If you want to have input into this discussion it should be on topic and professional. You as a representative of this site should not hijack threads just because a site member wants to make comments that are negative against the involvement of the Toowoomba MTB community in social rides. This is not an attack on your website.

As I have said before I am not the only person in Toowoomba disappointed with this attitude. I am just the one that has decided to make comment.

[Ty]

well i wont get into the origins of the dknx.net, oops sorry i mean the mtbdirt.com forums but the fact that that the site is based in SEQLD for SEQLD riders is the reason why it's get faster/more responses for planning rides in that area than this one which has a user base spread across this vast nation


it sounds as if you are unhappy with the current toowoomba mtb scene, maybe this is your big chance to do something about this? Start a club, do some maintenance, have a bbq, drink some beer, maybe this will encourage people to ride and get together more than complaining how crap and divided your current scene is.

[toowoombarider]

At least a BBQ would be easy to cater for.
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Look Ty, I am sory you have had to get involved in this. My rant was in response to one from Mr Plow and should have remained just that. End of story. I wont post again looking for rides. Apparently there are some rides starting via Brian Page cycles which I will go on. If anyone is interested contact Matt or Sandy at Pages and they will let you know when they are on.

Cheers

[MrPlow]

have a bbq, drink some beer, maybe this will encourage people to ride and get together more than complaining how crap and divided your current scene is.
I believe this has been tried before Ty. But thanks for your input. I have tried a little to get some ppl together, and get the bike shops to support the scene but they are more interested in road at the moment. I do DH (try) which is what I would like to see a club form (again). I am prepared to organise rides/ club etc. But if we cannot even get a group along for 1 ride I believe my efforts will be wasted :roll: My plan of attack is to start the ball rolling with a few riders I know offline (went today actually) and then let it grow and keep farkin ppl in touch with what is happening. I don't particularly want to be commited to a lbs based club ride, I feel to guilty then! And also I am not too keen on hardcore XC rides that make you spew :? We had a great social ride today and thats where mtbing is at IMHO. Toowoombarider I understand your dissatisfaction, but go easy on Ty :wink: But Ty, Farkin originated down the street and round the corner from me in Tmba, there are plenty of riders on this forum from here. Perhaps they are afraid of the freaky ppl that spend hours chatting online :?: :lol:

[Scott]

But Ty, Farkin originated down the street and round the corner from me in Tmba

argh!! i have a stalker...

[MrPlow]

:lol: Yes, yes you do :lol:

[pyrotek]

blah i realy don't see the point replyign just yet
My bike is kinda still broken ;(
once its up and running yeah for sure

[josh]

HAHA and here is Toowoombarider accusing Ty of not doing his 'homework', when Ty was actually a moderator for the forums back in the day....How's the irony?

Perhaps you should get a clue before you go spouting out your elitist babble. Not one of us Toowoomba people are avoiding riding with others, its just that none of us look in this part of the forum. Why you ask? How many mountain bikers can you actually name that live in Toowoomba? I can think of about 10-15. It's a everyone knows everyone type of deal, thats why we never bother organising rides on these forums, as we all know each other and organise it ourselves. We have certain days we meet etc. More the merrier however.

Perhaps you should pm myself or one of the others who actually support mountain biking, not some bike shop that couldn't give a rats arse unless you rode it on the road. And you cant accuse us of not supporting the sport, look at the site, look what we have created for all the other riders out there.

Now if your still interested, give me a buzz, if xc is your thing ill get my rig up and running again and we can organise a little something.

Ball is in your court.

[MrPlow]

Agreed Josh, I can name a few as well. But I don't think this word of mouth you speak of facilitates the needs of new riders. How are they to know when and where you go riding? I remember talking with you before Farkin started, you said yourself how exciting it was because ppl could use the sight to find where trails are as well as hook up for rides. I would prefer a club or gathering of riders independant of the LBS as well, but try to look at it from an 'outsiders' perspective, you may be comfortable with inviting yourself along to ride with a group of ppl you don't know. But I don't know if I would be nor any other new riders. People are taking up mountain biking all the time, for all different reasons, and from all age groups, I am sure they here of Farkin and possibly come here to have a look. They don't know you, or me or anybody else who rides, so why would they PM you for a ride with your group?
Another scenario is thoose ppl who are aware of the groups but may think "I don't want to hold them up, they are too fast" or "These young DHers wouldn't do Cross country with an old fart like me, so I won't bother them." etc etc.
The watering hole is our (almost) perfect place to organise a political free gathering of riders for all ppl. Perhaps if you or other Farkin admin and staff actually supported members like ToowoombaRider's call for a group, or at least replied and told him you go riding and he may come with we would all have the opportunity to get together? I believe there is the potential for a great mix of riders to get together using this (your) sight as the meeting hub. I know you are busy at Uni, EB etc. But I have extended my hand of help before, and would again, Toowoomba needs a club. Not Club Bikeline or Club Pagey, but Club Farkin, or Club Toowoomba. With this union of riders we have the potential to access land, build trails, hold races etc.
You and the other managers of this sight do well to keep it reputable and relatively informative. If you could initiate a group ride of all Tmba members at a time and place using your admin powers I think it would be great and it would have me calling all my mates to give it our full support. Don't use the "I haven't got time" excuse, I have offered my time. All I would want is your support. put it in the news section or something....
Back in your court mate :D :wink:

[josh]

Agreed Josh, I can name a few as well. But I don't think this word of mouth you speak of facilitates the needs of new riders.

Ok first of all I never said it was, that would be a ridiculous statement If I did! Basically I mentioned that as a reason why alot (when I say alot, i mean about 10-15 or so) of Toowoomba riders wouldn't bother checking this bit of the forum, because we already have group rides organised :)

I would prefer a club or gathering of riders independant of the LBS as well, but try to look at it from an 'outsiders' perspective, you may be comfortable with inviting yourself along to ride with a group of ppl you don't know. But I don't know if I would be nor any other new riders. People are taking up mountain biking all the time, for all different reasons, and from all age groups, I am sure they here of Farkin and possibly come here to have a look. They don't know you, or me or anybody else who rides, so why would they PM you for a ride with your group?

I would like to think most people are capable of some sort of social interaction with other human beings, although this isn't necessarily true (well, it's definetly not). If people can't learn to talk to others or ride in a very socialable group, or for gods sake even 'pm' someone, then they are wasting their time even wanting to organise rides with others. I would like to think mtb'ers are very friendly and helpful to 'newcomers' (All the ones I know are).

Sorry but people not being able to talk to another person in any sort of decent form is a gripe of mine.

I also agree about Toowoomba needing another group ride, definetly away from a club or lbs. It's something in which I may look into organising sometime soon. These things have to be organised properly, not a spur of the moment type thing.

The watering hole is our (almost) perfect place to organise a political free gathering of riders for all ppl. Perhaps if you or other Farkin admin and staff actually supported members like ToowoombaRider's call for a group, or at least replied and told him you go riding and he may come with we would all have the opportunity to get together?

I don't believe you have the right to say that Greg. I/We rarely check 'The watering hole' (for aforementioned reason above), so just because we don't reply to his thread doesn't mean we dont support other riders.

It's just like me saying you dont support Toowoombarider because you didn't go for a ride with him.

I believe there is the potential for a great mix of riders to get together using this (your) sight as the meeting hub.

I agree. The mtb'ers are great lads, and more the merrier! I would love to get more girls involved as well (Only one i know of is Tina).

I know you are busy at Uni, EB etc. But I have extended my hand of help before, and would again, Toowoomba needs a club. Not Club Bikeline or Club Pagey, but Club Farkin, or Club Toowoomba. With this union of riders we have the potential to access land, build trails, hold races etc.

I disagree, I don't think a Toowoomba Club is the answer. I really dont think there are the numbers yet to make something like that a viable option....yet. For the moment, sticking to organised group rides will work much better, and lay a stronger foundation for alternative strategies in the future.

Don't use the "I haven't got time" excuse, I have offered my time. All I would want is your support. put it in the news section or something....
Back in your court mate :D :wink:

First of all, the ball was never in your court! Give Toowoomba rider back the raquet :) :roll: It's true my time is limited, especially leading up to the busiest part of the year. I will be spending most of my time at work (lucky i like working), however I can always make a bit of time for a ride.


It got me very frustrated that Toowoombarider can come on here and is quick to be very negative, but fail to do his 'homework'. We are not a bad bunch of people, and we are always up for a ride, and are glad to show new people local riding spots.

I will endeavour to organise a group ride on a particular day asap. Just got to find a good mix of riding, and perhaps a little eat or drink as well afterwards.

(Ball is still in his court) :)

[MrPlow]

Josh, It would be ridiculous to quote your quotes of my quotes. I wasn't accusing you of being wrong to have your own group of riders mate, just pointing out that your (and my) group of riders doesn't accomodate new riders easily.
I agreed that some of TMBAriders comments were a bit harsh/negative, but granted he was frustrated...
I have been talking with TMBArider (PM, email etc), so I feel I can take the ball to some extent. But I don't think it mattered that I chose to reply to your post.


I don't believe you have the right to say that Greg. I/We rarely check 'The watering hole' (for aforementioned reason above), so just because we don't reply to his thread doesn't mean we dont support other riders.
Sorry, I wasn't directing this totally towards you guys.
I guess we will just see what happens, my intention wasn't to lay blame, I just wanted to make the point that Toowoomba could do with a place for new riders and old alike, looking for a change to hook up. :wink: