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Hey guys and gals i need your opinion on these 3 different rims.
i weigh 72kgs and currently doing drops from 15 ft(2 storey house) to DH and 6 ft to flat and wanting to go bigger.
I am definettely building one of these rims on an aireal hub and DT spokes for the rear
so whats you opinon on:
Intense Mag 30
Mavic D321
Atomlab DHR
any info would be much appreicated
i dont think you can get atom labs in aus atm
Avanti_Racing
23-12-2003, 08:05 PM
try www.chainreactioncycles.com, they have all these in stock, its uk but dirt cheap
i dont think you can get atom labs in aus atm
my mate got one 2 days ago so yes.... they are in aus !!
i dont think you can get atom labs in aus atm
yes you can get them. they are here i have touched them.
Kreaky
23-12-2003, 08:44 PM
i dont think you can get atom labs in aus atm
yes you can get them. they are here i have touched them.
WoW u toched them. ur so cool
lol. :lol:
Hey guys and gals i need your opinion on these 3 different rims.
i weigh 72kgs and currently doing drops from 15 ft to DH and 6 ft to flat and wanting to go bigger.
I am definettely building one of these rims on an aireal hub and DT spokes for the rear
so whats you opinon on:
Intense Mag 30
Mavic D321
Atomlab DHR
any info would be much appreicated
a) I hope you've seen this http://www.farkin.net/forums/viewtopic.php?t=7621 :)
b) The Mag30 and 321 are both great rims, personally I wouldn't go for a DHR because they're "one third stronger than an Aircorp", however my experience with Aircorps leads me to believe that one third stronger than nothing is still nothing. You'd be happy with the Mag30 or the 321 IMO, the Mag is arguably slightly stronger (and heavier), it really comes down to what you can get cheaper.
there aya go socket i done it i changed my description to be more along the lines of Rik's post.
i heard that on the mag 30 the welding is shit and it cracks.
i think $130 for intense mag 30
D321 $100(i think)
curtisrider
23-12-2003, 10:37 PM
and how much is the DHR, cos i have been told they are stronger than trailpimps
and Steve Peat helped design them :wink:
Daver
24-12-2003, 08:33 AM
ok-
1.intense mag 30s are strong but are twice as heavy as atomlab dhrs.
2. i have folded 2 321s and flatspotted all of them too...
3. Atomlabs look way cooler and i found that they are lighter than 321s, and stronger- they stay better in true and don't flatspot.
I weigh 110kilos and abuse the shit out of my wheels- but i still like light rims. DHRs have been perfect for me and i would recommend them to anyone. i would stay as far from the mavics as you can (if you must get one- get a 521) and stay away from the intense unless you wat to carry around heaps of extra weight...
Daver
24-12-2003, 08:33 AM
DHRs are $129.95
Big Red
24-12-2003, 09:02 AM
I have had 321's for the past year.
I'm 110kg and far from smooth.
I do a lot or urban and 3-5 foot drops to flat everyday.
Both wheels have had one trip to the truing stand and that was due to loose spokes. I can not comment on the others, as I haven't used them.
Daver, I think you must had got a dud, or I have a magic pair.
Good luck.
dylma
24-12-2003, 09:14 AM
yeh daver, i think u did get a dud
ok-
1.intense mag 30s are strong but are twice as heavy as atomlab dhrs.
2. i have folded 2 321s and flatspotted all of them too...
3. Atomlabs look way cooler and i found that they are lighter than 321s, and stronger- they stay better in true and don't flatspot.
I weigh 110kilos and abuse the shit out of my wheels- but i still like light rims. DHRs have been perfect for me and i would recommend them to anyone. i would stay as far from the mavics as you can (if you must get one- get a 521) and stay away from the intense unless you wat to carry around heaps of extra weight...
http://www.sun-ringle.com/ShowRoom/MTB/Rims/intense.html
Mag30 - 640g
http://www.atomlab.com/
DHR - 700g
Now, given that Atomlabs actually quotes a HIGHER weight for the DHR than Mag30s, how is it exactly that the Mag30s are "twice as heavy"? I'm sure that Sun's listed weight isn't accurate, but even allowing 10% diff, it's still gonna be about the same as the DHR... at most.
Oh and http://www.mavic.com/servlet/srt/mavic/vtt-prod_fiche?product.id=81&lg=uk
729s (renamed 321s for 2004) are listed as 675g, so I find your claims of uber-light-weight for the DHRs to be pretty rich. I have been told on reasonable authority that the Mavic listed weights are pretty accurate.
and how much is the DHR, cos i have been told they are stronger than trailpimps
and Steve Peat helped design them :wink:
Steve Peat didn't help design them.
Avanti_Racing
24-12-2003, 04:50 PM
what would it matter if he did or not? my vote still stands with the atomblab ones
Konaman
24-12-2003, 05:09 PM
I remember in one of the hundreds of rim choice threads someone had all these quotes from sponsored riders by atomlab saying that they arent very good. Though i could just be thinking wrong lol.
CHEWY
24-12-2003, 06:27 PM
729s (renamed 321s for 2004) .
are you sure socket? have u seen the 729(1?)'s in person? they dont look anything like the 321's....
Fritta
24-12-2003, 06:33 PM
I've heard good things about the atomlabs and i know i wouldnt mind a pair myself... I'd go with the atomlabs.
I remember in one of the hundreds of rim choice threads someone had all these quotes from sponsored riders by atomlab saying that they arent very good. Though i could just be thinking wrong lol.
You're not thinking wrong, check out http://www.dropmachine.com/reviews/aircorp.shtml and see what a sponsored rider (dunno if he was technically sponsored, or just supported [Grip :P] but either way) has to say about the Aircorps. Now if that isn't an honest review, what is!
729s (renamed 321s for 2004) .
are you sure socket? have u seen the 729(1?)'s in person? they dont look anything like the 321's....
721s are the rebadged 521s, or the 04 equivalent at least. I don't know if they're *identical*, but they are basically the equivalent I think. 729s are the equivalent of 321s, have a look at http://www.mavic.com/servlet/srt/mavic/vtt-prod_fiche?product.id=81&lg=uk , looks very much like a 321 profile to me, but then again you can't see much there.
Thanks for the info so far guys, keep them coming.
hey does anyone know how mucha D321 retails for?
Avanti_Racing
25-12-2003, 01:01 PM
i think 90 each but dont take my word for it
i think i am really set to get the D321 now.heaps of people said they are great for everything.
Avanti_Racing
25-12-2003, 02:15 PM
good choice, and poeple trust mavic and the yhave an awsome reputation, good choice if u do get 1
yer i may order one on monday for them to biuld it up for me.
i think 90 each but dont take my word for it
They're more than that, $110-120 or so.
curtisrider
26-12-2003, 05:25 PM
and how much is the DHR, cos i have been told they are stronger than trailpimps
and Steve Peat helped design them :wink:
Steve Peat didn't help design them.
oh are you sure? :o
and how much is the DHR, cos i have been told they are stronger than trailpimps
and Steve Peat helped design them :wink:
Steve Peat didn't help design them.
oh are you sure? :o
They use the Aircorp profile (which they had for ages before Peaty started using Atomlabs stuff, in fact they've had the DHR for longer than Peaty has been riding for em), but with eyelets and a different alloy. Now, unless you consider "designing" to be the addition of eyelets to an existing design, or you believe Peaty is a metallurgist (he used to be a plumber...), then you can probably work out that he didn't have much to do with it ;)
shmity
26-12-2003, 09:38 PM
Meh, i cracked 3 mavic rims (2 521 and 1 321) in 4 months, im now onto a DHR, ill let you know how it holds up.
Meh, i cracked 3 mavic rims (2 521 and 1 321) in 4 months
ahahahahahahahahahahahahah.. (wombat edit:) for fuck's sake steve!(/edit)
hahahahahaha
bumpery bump, people i need more responds to which rim.,
im still laying strongly towards having a rear mag 30 and front D321, or should i just pick either and buy a pair, not to separate like a bitch.
lotec
01-01-2004, 09:18 PM
id get the 321s
but are these rims any good if anyone knows for direct impact? (drops) the mag 30 look very sturdy. please help people
lotec
01-01-2004, 09:22 PM
trail pimps are good for that
lotec
01-01-2004, 09:23 PM
and as 521s are and 321s are mavics stronger rim id guess that so are 321s!
curtisrider
02-01-2004, 11:26 AM
DHR's are supposably better than trailpimps, for one they are eyeleted, and for the rest i dont know
Maggot
04-01-2004, 11:32 PM
mavic 321, out off all the people i know that have them never have a problem
brodes
01-02-2004, 11:48 AM
i reckon the mags are a bit to wide. unless ur running 3.00 rubber but id go the 321
bazza
03-02-2004, 01:30 AM
OK before anyone goes into arguing against rims because they cracked or what not. these claims can only be upheld IF and only if the rim was in good condition and well maintained when the folding/damage occured. i have cracked my 521 and stuffed another rim becuase i badly maintained them and did not regulary check my spoke tension. i not knowingly did a full city ride on a rear wheel with loose rear spokes. and because of this the rim is now stuffed. cya later 90 bucks. and all because of bad maintainence. the same happened with friends as well doing large stuff on wheels with loose spokes which caused them to crack. to remeber kids keep your bike well maintained and go over a basic checklist before and during EVERY ride. that is spokes, tyre pressuer and a quick check for loose bolts/screws.
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