Giant trials bike

[Gronk]

I was looking on the Japanese section of the giant website (dont' ask why, you just do these things when you're sick and medicated) and found they offer 3 different trials bikes over there, a mod and two stocks.

It was hard to figure out the frames specs, but the trials pro kinda looks alright :)

Damn it, why don't we get this stuff down here??

[Povi]

:eek::eek:
look at the chainstays and fork dropouts on the mod......
seriously sketchy

[cdfeto]

I was more concerned about the rear disc system ...

[dylanm]

big companies tend not to care about the current mainstream thought of trials when they make they're bikes. take the single speed models there, they still have huge long cage derailleurs just because shimano gives them a good deal. also the geometry looks a bit "outdated." but it would still be good if we could get them here for beginners. theres just no market.

[disappearin]

the trials pro models look alright. alot of trials specific companies are starting to bring rear disc frames out. hopefully they are stronger then the prevoius versions we have seen.

[tu plang]

I was more concerned about the rear disc system ...

i know lots of people who do run/have run dual disc set ups without issues particularly on mods. the oh noes rear disc thing is very 2003.

big companies tend not to care about the current mainstream thought of trials when they make they're bikes. take the single speed models there, they still have huge long cage derailleurs just because shimano gives them a good deal. also the geometry looks a bit "outdated." but it would still be good if we could get them here for beginners. theres just no market.

firstly, both those stocks are running gears. looks like they are running road cassettes which is probably worth a brownie point or two. secondly the derailleurs are both sram. granted the model with the seat is funky looking... but there only so many ways you can put a seat on a trials bike while retaining the current popular geometry. finally, the stock without a seat looks like a pretty decent bike.

I'm not sure whether or not there is a market for a complete trials bike from a mainstream brand but perhaps thats only because they've never been available. Monty is about the only brand thats been consistently available as a complete bike (obviously the raceline rhinos were around back in the day too.)

[cdfeto]

Originally posted by tu plang:
i know lots of people who do run/have run dual disc set ups without issues particularly on mods
Give them my regards.

[tu plang]

Give them my regards.

seriously dude, i haven't said anything up until now but it appears to be some ongoing habbit of yours. i dont have a problem with people making the occasional smart arse comment (heck i do it more than occasionally myself) but whenever someone disagrees with you you jump straight back with some immature, half-smart reply. you're not witty, sharp or funny, just get your hand off it.

[cdfeto]

"habit" ey?
just chill - PM me about your issues, if you really feel the need.

[Gronk]

In regards to mainstream companies not having a market for trials bikes; could this simply be due to a lack of exposure to the sport? I mean when people actually see trials in action they tend to either stare in slack-jawwed awe, or they wanna go home and try to rear wheel hop on their DH bikes.

A little advertising could go a long way for the sport... I mean hell if you advertise anything enough people will like it, just look at our current fascination with texas hold 'em poker :rolleyes:

I don't really have a point here but I think these big companies should put a little money into promoting trials, then they could maybe sell more of the bikes they are already making.

[dain2772]

In regards to mainstream companies not having a market for trials bikes; could this simply be due to a lack of exposure to the sport? I mean when people actually see trials in action they tend to either stare in slack-jawwed awe, or they wanna go home and try to rear wheel hop on their DH bikes.

A little advertising could go a long way for the sport... I mean hell if you advertise anything enough people will like it, just look at our current fascination with texas hold 'em poker :rolleyes:

I don't really have a point here but I think these big companies should put a little money into promoting trials, then they could maybe sell more of the bikes they are already making.

They would certainly have more of a market if they provided a more reasonably priced trials bike. The second hand market is pretty small, but very strong.

[donkay]

well....as in 'promotion' it's generally 'us' the riders here in Australia that do demo's at our expense to 'try' to get the numbers up and running

but, the majority of the sport/money is over in the european country's as Trials is like a standard thing like 'bmx' and on top of that, as most frames are built/designed in China, the major target is there, china, my god there's like HEAPS of folks riding trials but on top of that HEAPS don't know what Trials is...funny that

So really.....they're all surviving quite well, Just oddly Trials was a 'big' thing a while back in aus, then dies...then grows...then dies....at this stage...it feels like it's at the 'growing' stage again :)

[Gronk]

Yeah I guess they gotta go where their market is... but it's odd that they simply will not bring their bikes in. As far as I know Norco plain refuses to import their trials model bikes, at least that is what one of the LBS guys told me. If they are bringing in other bikes already, why not throw one or two trials bikes into the container also?

[jda]

As far as I know Norco plain refuses to import their trials model bikes, at least that is what one of the LBS guys told me. If they are bringing in other bikes already, why not throw one or two trials bikes into the container also?

Because the market is too small and Norco's range of trials bikes can't compete with brands like Echo, zoo etc.

Anyone who is serious about trials is not going to buy a Norco.

[Chamelion]

A little advertising could go a long way for the sport... I mean hell if you advertise anything enough people will like it, just look at our current fascination with texas hold 'em poker :rolleyes:

Aint that the truth... I think the only more rediculous fad is yo-yo's as it comes and goes once or twice a decade.

[stocktrials]

the 20" looks alright!