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Nick53
01-12-2007, 11:11 AM
Hey guys,
I guess this thread is kinda random but anyway here goes. Do you have an aim in life? Who is the person you want to be? What would you like to happan to you in the future? I haven't thought about this at all but today when watching "Eclipse" (like Video Hits) I suddenly thought about it and now I can't get it out of my head. I keep thinking stuff like: If I spent every spare moment of my time training for soccer (my equal favourite sport with MTB'ing) could I be the next David Beckham, do I want to be someone like him and is that a realistic aim? Would I be happy if I just took life as it comes and just be normal eg. Have a normal job, married and kids etc etc. Anyway my questions are do you have an aim in life? Who is the person you want to be and what would you like to happan to your life in the future? Also do you think things happan for a reason and do you think "what would of happan if I didn't do this and did this?

So I know this is weird as but I just thought I'd get it out of my system and get answers:o

bitterbro
01-12-2007, 11:52 AM
Yeh i kinda say i have to think about the little things, like studying for that extra 20 mins every day so i can get those assessment marks a little higher and get that better UAI. The other day i was studying for business studies when i took a break to watch some medical show (i want to study medicine) when i thaught, if i was studying rather than watching this show, i could be that. So i finished the show, had a cookie and studied

Dan.
01-12-2007, 12:04 PM
My point in life is to breed like all other animals and continue my species development. Nah not really but I would like to become a paramedic and help people and have a sucessful career. And buy my own house have a nice bike and car and family.

Got Awesome?
01-12-2007, 12:31 PM
I have no idea.

I like riding my bike though. :)

skivi
01-12-2007, 12:37 PM
i want to die old (but not too old) and able to look back and not have to regret any personal actions or inactions

i know thats very vague but i dont like to tie myself down to plans, i love the freedom i have and i want to make sure i do my best to not only be a good person but make the most of my life, to make a difference to this place would be nice especially if it came about through me just being who i am, i dont want to deliberately be a hero and i definitely dont want to die alone or live a life working 9 till 5.

Chalkie
01-12-2007, 12:49 PM
Thinking about the rest of my life gets a tad daunting. At the moment I just want to finish my degree and save enough money to get out of here and travel the world once I'm finished. From there who knows.

More generally though when I'm old I don't want to sit around and think, "damn I should have run off with that girl, or taken that job, or jumped on that plane." I want to live my life to the full - after all it's not the things we do that we often regret, but the things we didn't do. Mostly though I just want to enjoy the journey and make the people around me enjoy it just as much as I do.

S.
01-12-2007, 12:55 PM
[drunken philosophy]
All I want is to be totally unafraid, totally congruent with myself, and never want or need to make apologies for who I am or what I do. Most days I'm still scared of something stupid, and it's gotta end. Did you ever feel like you were living inside a maze of stupid beliefs that you logically know are BS but emotionally can't yet demolish? My aim is to burn that maze to the ground.
[/drunken philosophy]

luke.b
01-12-2007, 01:00 PM
My life is one very, very complicated drinking game. My aim is to not pass out.

BM Epic
01-12-2007, 05:05 PM
Good thread Huckeroo,
At my age(41),I am starting to think about what could have been??
I gave up soccer at 14 after playing for nsw and getting a schalarship to play with Marconi in a development program,I got sick of soccer and threw it all away.
Also at 23,I could have and should have taken the opportunity to box in the pro's,at the time there was a lot of money going around the fight game,my trainer found out i was married and own a house and forbade me to fight,he said i risked too much(he was right).
The point is to not regret what you have not done,but also to live life with a vengeance,i tend to treat most things in a fate kind of way,at my age, i am still guilty of not thinking too far ahead.
My life now is to make sure my 2 daughters have a happy life!:D

flying high dh killer
01-12-2007, 05:12 PM
To live, and treasure every minute of what is an incredible opportunity. As far as I believe, I don't have a destiny and I don't get another chance.

slip
01-12-2007, 05:13 PM
The point is to not regret what you have not done,but also to live life with a vengeance,i tend to treat most things in a fate kind of way,at my age, i am still guilty of not thinking too far ahead.


I am guilty of that as well. Working hard to build for my future more, but when I look back at all the loose, self destructive, money blowing things I've done - it all made me happy. Wouldn't have it any other way.

PINT of Stella, mate!
01-12-2007, 05:15 PM
My life's purpose is to move silently down through the ages seeking out others of my kind and engaging them in swordplay. Victory can only be achieved by severing the vanquished's head from the body. This has gone on for centuries as we move closer to The Prize. In the end there can be only one...

chu
01-12-2007, 07:26 PM
i wanna be succesful and my idea of success is...having a job that i love, being fit and healthy, having a wife and kids, and having mountain biking and there wouldnt be anything else:)

NCR600
01-12-2007, 07:58 PM
There's a point to life?

Nick53
01-12-2007, 08:35 PM
i wanna be succesful and my idea of success is...having a job that i love, being fit and healthy, having a wife and kids, and having mountain biking and there wouldnt be anything else:)

I'd be happy with that, good post Chu. It's really interesting taking all this in because i've still got time to make up my mind about it at 13 (personally I think it's sorta weird for me to be thinking about this but what the heck!).

contagion
01-12-2007, 08:41 PM
There's a point to life?

No, not really.

I'm just trying to be everything that I am and can be but nothing I'm not. I don't try and act a certain way to make an impression. I act a certain way because that's the way my environment has conditioned me to act.

take advantage of everything I can without being a complete dick. But at the same time be honest in every way possible, none of this bullshitting people so that they'll think you're nice. If you've got something to say that isn't so nice, say it anyway and don't apologise. Say what you think, and mean what you say.

As fair as life goals go, I'm in a cabinet making apprenticeship. I plan to make reptile enclosures and eventually have a business breeding snakes and selling enclosures.

Wow, I gave a serious answer to one of these threads... I'm amazed.

beaty
01-12-2007, 09:07 PM
I think our aim in life is just to be succesful with a career, family and friends. So in saying that, my aim in life is to enjoy life and every situtation and learn new stuff from everyday experiences. Ridding is something i really enjoy and would love to keep ridding for most of my life.
So hopefully everything will go good :D

Kane.
01-12-2007, 09:37 PM
The Point Of Life....

I think that theres some one all ways testing us giving us competition. It sucks there's the failures in life and the successful people. But for guys like us (Not saying all of you) theres all ways going to be some one better then us theres all ways going to be some one that gets higher grades then us, some one that is faster then us. really my goal is hyper reality to be a AFL Footballer but inside me theres some dought in me saying i should really start thinking about what a real job would be for me. The point is there is only about 10 percent of us that will get in to this hyper reality world. but the rest will be average joe's

meatlovers
01-12-2007, 09:43 PM
Of course to be a pro mountain biker, or recently I've been thinking about a career in the army or maybe a policeman or a fireman?

contagion
01-12-2007, 09:47 PM
The point is there is only about 10 percent of us that will get in to this hyper reality world. but the rest will be average joe's

I tend to think that I'd rather be a nobody than famous. I hate crowds and attention. let alone people thinking they have the right to invade your privacy at every possible moment. I prefer to walk down the street and not have a 2nd look from anyone.

Kirky
01-12-2007, 09:48 PM
My aim in life is to live forever. So far so good. If i dont make it i will die trying.

|Matt|
01-12-2007, 09:56 PM
In the end there can be only one...

**Gruff, gravel-voiced scream** BEOWUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUULF!!!!

Jon
02-12-2007, 08:38 AM
My life's purpose is to move silently down through the ages seeking out others of my kind and engaging them in swordplay. Victory can only be achieved by severing the vanquished's head from the body. This has gone on for centuries as we move closer to The Prize. In the end there can be only one...
The prophecy of the the evil wizard foretold of another.... Have at you;)

thecat
02-12-2007, 08:54 AM
I'm aiming to become a grumpy old man.
Shit I'm already there:eek:

Oh and to take POSM head before he gets mine then erase all memory of highlander 2

Carlin
02-12-2007, 09:23 AM
42...




...Or something, I forget.

roasted
02-12-2007, 09:41 AM
Yeah, 42.

Seriously though, I just want to enjoy myself and listen to good records without putting anyone else out too much, haha.

Being specific with the 'point of life' is silly. Broad mindedness is key imo.

emcgough
21-07-2008, 10:35 PM
bump...

I don't have a proper or specific answer to this question, but I do think about it every now and then. One aspect I get concerned about is the issue of time and using that time properly.

For example, today I set the whole day aside to study for an exam, but only got 2-3 hours done. The rest of the time was pure procrastination... surfing the net pointlessly, walking around the house, fixing myself food, etc.

I see that as a waste and feel guilty, not so much about the lack of study specifically, but of the wastage of time. It simply could have been put to better use. So for me, I am very touchy about time... basically every other resource can be purchased (even if they're running out) for whatever cost, but as far as I know time cannot be bought.

Anybody else got thoughts on the topic?

kizza01
21-07-2008, 10:42 PM
bump...

I don't have a proper or specific answer to this question, but I do think about it every now and then. One aspect I get concerned about is the issue of time and using that time properly.

For example, today I set the whole day aside to study for an exam, but only got 2-3 hours done. The rest of the time was pure procrastination... surfing the net pointlessly, walking around the house, fixing myself food, etc.

I see that as a waste and feel guilty, not so much about the lack of study specifically, but of the wastage of time. It simply could have been put to better use. So for me, I am very touchy about time... basically every other resource can be purchased (even if they're running out) for whatever cost, but as far as I know time cannot be bought.

Anybody else got thoughts on the topic?
I know how u feel. These uni holidays have been a total waste of time mainly due to rain. I dont want to look back and realise how much life i could have fitted into my time. That said i do enjoy not having any commitments and nothing to do, to an extent.

As far as life goals are, its to be the best at everything i start. To win in other words.
If i go to the grave with my body intact, ive failed at life.

Emcgough, are you studying for a sup exam? I remember u posting that your doing some sort of design at Adelaide uni?

'Ross
21-07-2008, 10:43 PM
Im starting to believe the notion that if you want something enough you can achieve it, not talking about obtaining possesions, but achieving certain things in life...workin for me in some instances anyway!

emcgough
21-07-2008, 10:49 PM
Emcgough, are you studying for a sup exam? I remember u posting that your doing some sort of design at Adelaide uni?
At Adelaide but doing sust energy engineering. I have a chem1a supp on wednesday. Which is a good example of wasted time in itself. If I had done any study for the initial exam I would have passed and not wasted the last week studying (or procrastinating studying for....) for the supp.

It's a frustrating, vicious, stupid cycle. Time is precious, maybe I'll learn to use it properly someday.

kizza01
21-07-2008, 10:55 PM
At Adelaide but doing sust energy engineering. I have a chem1a supp on wednesday. Which is a good example of wasted time in itself. If I had done any study for the initial exam I would have passed and not wasted the last week studying (or procrastinating studying for....) for the supp.

It's a frustrating, vicious, stupid cycle. Time is precious, maybe I'll learn to use it properly someday.

Is sust en engineering a new degree? I did two and a half years of civil and environmental before i pissed it off. Doing a marketing degree now. Chem1a, is that a lot of organic chemistry etc? Good luck anyway.

sockman
21-07-2008, 11:04 PM
Get rich, or die trying.

seriously. I wanna join the army and make it to special forces like rambo or go air force and become like maverick and goose. I pretty much wanna destroy and maim whatever i can...

S.
21-07-2008, 11:08 PM
bump...

I don't have a proper or specific answer to this question, but I do think about it every now and then. One aspect I get concerned about is the issue of time and using that time properly.

For example, today I set the whole day aside to study for an exam, but only got 2-3 hours done. The rest of the time was pure procrastination... surfing the net pointlessly, walking around the house, fixing myself food, etc.

I see that as a waste and feel guilty, not so much about the lack of study specifically, but of the wastage of time. It simply could have been put to better use. So for me, I am very touchy about time... basically every other resource can be purchased (even if they're running out) for whatever cost, but as far as I know time cannot be bought.

Anybody else got thoughts on the topic?

Totally with you on that one mate. I read somewhere, can't remember where, something along the lines of:

"You can spend your time working towards what you want, or you can spend it doing nothing - but the time will pass anyway."

brettyG
21-07-2008, 11:13 PM
Seriously, I don't think you can safely set a life goal you can strive for; I see it more as everything is a one shot opportunity, and that's all you get. I don't think we as humans are able to cape with the fact that no matter what, we'll always look back and regret. It's kinda contradictory in itself, what is there to regret when you only get one path? You can't re-live it all in hopes of redoing what you may of done wrong, so really, the point of the regret itself becomes nothing. Which ends in, well, in kind of a good thing; if you see it anything like this, you'll be able to cut past all the crap in life, and get down to what really matters, what makes you happy - and most of all, what kind of mark you are able to leave on the lives of others. Afterall, the only eyes you can be seen through are those of every other being on the planet, so why not make their memory of you a honourable one? Physical life is but a small portion of your existence, make the most of it.

And if there was such thing as a point to life (which during this rant I've kind of contradicted myself, like 4 or 5 times, but anyways), I'm sure mine would be along the lines of cherish what you have, the friends you've made and the times you've had - you only get one shot at life, make it worthwhile.

Anyways, I've probably drunk a little too much and gotta get up for school tomorrow (which is actually today btw), so I better finish this up. God I love poker nights....

Oh, and thank you Mozilla for the spelling check!

emcgough
21-07-2008, 11:21 PM
Is sust en engineering a new degree? I did two and a half years of civil and environmental before i pissed it off. Doing a marketing degree now. Chem1a, is that a lot of organic chemistry etc? Good luck anyway.
Was it a case of civil&env being what you were "supposed" to do (based on your grades/ability), but not what you'd actually be happy to do all your life? If so, good on 'ya for making the move. How do you enjoy marketing? and yeah, sust en is new this year. I was enrolled for straight chem eng but changed to the chem stream of sust when it came up. Looks to be better for me.
Totally with you on that one mate. I read somewhere, can't remember where, something along the lines of:

"You can spend your time working towards what you want, or you can spend it doing nothing - but the time will pass anyway."
That's a fine quote and something people should keep at the back of their minds at all times. Time stops for nobody, and that thought is definetely a motivator for me when I start to procrastinate.

kizza01
22-07-2008, 12:00 AM
Was it a case of civil&env being what you were "supposed" to do (based on your grades/ability), but not what you'd actually be happy to do all your life? If so, good on 'ya for making the move. How do you enjoy marketing? and yeah, sust en is new this year. I was enrolled for straight chem eng but changed to the chem stream of sust when it came up. Looks to be better for me.



Haha you have hit the nail on the head. At school i did the maths chem physics thing and just accepted that i was supposed to to engineering. I was a huge jump but i canned it after 2 and a bit years. It was very hard to make that final jump out of it.
Now, doing marketing im learning totally different things that i never touched at school and i love it, i actually miss uni. I feel a little mature age student however being 21 and starting a new degree this year. Good stuff if you have found ur degree in one hit. When you think about it, its a pretty lucky thing to be able to achieve.

'Ross
22-07-2008, 12:18 AM
Now, doing marketing im learning totally different things that i never touched at school and i love it, i actually miss uni. I feel a little mature age student however being 21 and starting a new degree this year. Good stuff if you have found ur degree in one hit. When you think about it, its a pretty lucky thing to be able to achieve.

I just started a marketing degree this year, hate it at the moment because its all general business crap like accounting and computers and useless shite. It will be interesting to see what Im learning when I get to the real stuff.

Adrian
22-07-2008, 06:15 AM
My life's purpose is to move silently down through the ages seeking out others of my kind and engaging them in swordplay. Victory can only be achieved by severing the vanquished's head from the body. This has gone on for centuries as we move closer to The Prize. In the end there can be only one...


Your silence has been broken. Let the hunt begin. There can be only one.

scblack
22-07-2008, 07:23 AM
I am The One.

MasterOfReality
22-07-2008, 09:18 AM
I am materialistic - I like money.

Just so happens I like what I do for a living, so the natural progression is to position myself to extract the biggest financial gain out of my career and that will be as an engineering manager or mining consultant.

I am aiming to have my house paid off by age 35, and retiring before 50.

My partner, who is an financial accountant certainly doesn't object :p

demo man
22-07-2008, 10:08 AM
I am materialistic - I like money.

Just so happens I like what I do for a living, so the natural progression is to position myself to extract the biggest financial gain out of my career and that will be as an engineering manager or mining consultant.

I am aiming to have my house paid off by age 35, and retiring before 50.

My partner, who is an financial accountant certainly doesn't object :p

That's all well and good, but is that really the point of your life? The most important thing to you in your existence?

To me, those are great goals to have, but in the end, when you're in your final moments, are you seriously going to be thinking 'Well, at least I paid of my house quickly.'?

kizza01
22-07-2008, 10:31 AM
That's all well and good, but is that really the point of your life? The most important thing to you in your existence?

To me, those are great goals to have, but in the end, when you're in your final moments, are you seriously going to be thinking 'Well, at least I paid of my house quickly.'?

Of course he wont, but he will be thinking "wow im glad i paid my house off quickly so i could enjoy life and not have to continue working so hard to pa off my mortgage. And with all this money i had i went on some awesome holidays or purchased things that let me have a lot of fun in my life with my wife"

MasterOfReality
22-07-2008, 10:34 AM
That's all well and good, but is that really the point of your life? The most important thing to you in your existence?

To me, those are great goals to have, but in the end, when you're in your final moments, are you seriously going to be thinking 'Well, at least I paid of my house quickly.'?

Yes, it is the point of my life at the moment. Be stuffed if I am going to start a family and end up as battlers.

At the end of the day, you can't do shit without money and I'm not the type of person with a easy come easy go attitude.

sawtell
22-07-2008, 11:40 AM
I am materialistic - I like money.


as am i, i am still a student, a full time 19 year old student who works 30 hours a weekontop of his 21 contact hours at uni... people at tafe/uni and mates out of uni think im a dick for doing so, "why do you need all that money" relax yoru only young etc etc..

the way i see it, i have enough money to put a deposit on small apartment right now, i could go out tomomrow and get a loan on a 250k apartment in the city, i wont cause i would strugle with the repayments, but when i start full time work, i will be able to easily.
i enjoy going to work, it is related to what i am studying at uni, i am getting experience, and i find it helps with my studies.

compared to mates who do not save a dollar a week, .. and waste there free time away playing GTA3, trying to find 200 pigeons...

That's all well and good, but is that really the point of your life? The most important thing to you in your existence?

To me, those are great goals to have, but in the end, when you're in your final moments, are you seriously going to be thinking 'Well, at least I paid of my house quickly.'?

people who make comments against people who say their goals are to make alot of money and retire early, in my eyes are just jealous as they will not be able to do the same..

who doesnt want to be filthy rich, do what they want when they want...

ive got a mate at tafe, he just turned 26, now that is not THAT OLD, but he has spent every year up to now from when he finished high school, traveling, or doing shit kicker labouring jobs. he has finaly relised to get any where in life you have to work hard for it, and make MONEY, sure he had fun fucking around for the last 10 yeears, but what does he have to show for it? a few photo's, lots of hang overs.....

S.
22-07-2008, 11:47 AM
as am i, i am still a student, a full time 19 year old student who works 30 hours a weekontop of his 21 contact hours at uni... people at tafe/uni and mates out of uni think im a dick for doing so, "why do you need all that money" relax yoru only young etc etc..

the way i see it, i have enough money to put a deposit on small apartment right now, i could go out tomomrow and get a loan on a 250k apartment in the city, i wont cause i would strugle with the repayments, but when i start full time work, i will be able to easily.
i enjoy going to work, it is related to what i am studying at uni, i am getting experience, and i find it helps with my studies.

compared to mates who do not save a dollar a week, .. and waste there free time away playing GTA3, trying to find 200 pigeons...



people who make comments against people who say their goals are to make alot of money and retire early, in my eyes are just jealous as they will not be able to do the same..

who doesnt want to be filthy rich, do what they want when they want...

ive got a mate at tafe, he just turned 26, now that is not THAT OLD, but he has spent every year up to now from when he finished high school, traveling, or doing shit kicker labouring jobs. he has finaly relised to get any where in life you have to work hard for it, and make MONEY, sure he had fun fucking around for the last 10 yeears, but what does he have to show for it? a few photo's, lots of hang overs.....

Yeah but by the same token, what do YOU have to show for it? A bigger number on your bank statement?

Personally I'd rather enjoy a life of relatively modest wealth than spend all my time focusing on how much money I make. The best things in life can't be bought anyway.

That said, I work 2 jobs in addition to a full time uni load, and I believe I am more than capable of making plenty of money if I actually cared about it... but I don't.

scblack
22-07-2008, 12:07 PM
That's all well and good, but is that really the point of your life? The most important thing to you in your existence?

To me, those are great goals to have, but in the end, when you're in your final moments, are you seriously going to be thinking 'Well, at least I paid of my house quickly.'?
How does MasterofReality's goals for his home payments and retirements affect his other factors in life AT ALL?:confused:

You will spend your life working 9am-5pm hours or so, and retire about 65 years old modestly. Nothing wrong with that.
MoR will spend his life working 8am-6pm or so (likely to be more at times), and retire about 50 years old hopefully pretty well off. Nothing wrong with that.

MoR's working life is a little different each day, but how does that affect other goals which you are saying are more important? How does that affect the rest of his life? I think MoR overall for his life is showing MORE interest in matters other than money than you are. He is going to retire 15YEARS earlier, and have much much more leisure time then. You seem to be saying its better to have those couple of hours per day now.

Thats the crux of it - he is working smarter now to have more leisure time later. You are taking it easier now, but it means working longer into old age. He has chosen different to you, but how does that affect the other goals in his life?

S.
22-07-2008, 12:11 PM
How does MasterofReality's goals for his home payments and retirements affect his other factors in life AT ALL?:confused:

You will spend your life working 9am-5pm hours or so, and retire about 65 years old modestly. Nothing wrong with that.
MoR will spend his life working 8am-6pm or so (likely to be more at times), and retire about 50 years old hopefully pretty well off. Nothing wrong with that.

MoR's working life is a little different each day, but how does that affect other goals which you are saying are more important? How does that affect the rest of his life? I think MoR overall for his life is showing MORE interest in matters other than money than you are. He is going to retire 15YEARS earlier, and have much much more leisure time then. You seem to be saying its better to have those couple of hours per day now.

Thats the crux of it - he is working smarter now to have more leisure time later. You are taking it easier now, but it means working longer into old age. He has chosen different to you, but how does that affect the other goals in his life?

And wouldn't it suck if you died at the age of 45, having spent all your time working?

MasterOfReality
22-07-2008, 12:17 PM
Sawtell and scblack are on the money.

Everyone's personal circumstances are different.

If my girlfriend and I end up marrying, our combined income in say 5 years time would be approaching $300k per year.

Of course I want to do the hard yards now, and relax later in life, rather than taking it easy, and working past 65. Bugger that.

No fun retiring and dying a few years later is there?

scblack
22-07-2008, 12:20 PM
And wouldn't it suck if you died at the age of 45, having spent all your time working?Couple of hours a day extra - big deal. I bet most would only spend that watching Friends, or Neighbours anyway. Or pissing it down the dunny at the pub. Wow, I bet that is worth it.

Well if you want to plan your life around the fact you MAY die at 45, and never have longer term goals - go ahead.

Cave Dweller
22-07-2008, 12:22 PM
Find a job that you enjoy doing and you will never have to work a day in your life.

PINT of Stella, mate!
22-07-2008, 12:22 PM
Yup, I'm of the view that whilst money's a handy thing to have it's certainly no substitute for time.

I'm lucky in the fact that I get quite well paid for my work but waay more importantly it allows me to only work around 6 months of the year, it takes me around the world and it's fun!

If I was greedy i could work a shitload more but what would be the point? I know far too many people who work their arses off doing long hours with little in the way of holidays just so they can afford to buy a new car every year or plow all their money into a boat that they only ever get to take out on the occasional sunday. Fuck that for a game of soldiers!

Life is a finite resource and you never know how much of it you're going to get. To be comfortable is admirable but is comfort to be found behind your desk?

There's a big mad world out there and I want to see as much of it as possible before I cark it. I know my ambitions differ from that of many guys with families to support but at the end of the day we're all still stuck with the constraints that time puts on our lives. Cramming an extra 20 hrs a week might pay to take the kids to Disneyworld for a fortnight, but that might be the only free time you get to spend with them.

PINT of Stella, mate!
22-07-2008, 12:26 PM
Also on the subject of sacrificing your time with a view to an early retirement,

Would you rather race the Megavalanche when you're young and at your peak or would you rather wait 20-30 years and find that you may not be fit enough to race it at all?

Cave Dweller
22-07-2008, 12:36 PM
I'll take option "A" thanks.

emcgough
22-07-2008, 12:37 PM
Yeah I agree with the ideas of S. and POSM. While it is all well and good to be working for your later life, you do need to be actually living while you can. I took a gap year last year, and that was a hard decision. I was concerned about falling behind in the "race of life". I'm glad I took that time off and my views on life have now changed.

I travelled around the world, and I can see now that so many of the things I did I just would not be able to do when I'm 50+. It would simply be socially unacceptable for some things, and too physically demanding for others. I met retiree couples basically everywhere I went, and was constantly hearing of the regret they had in not travelling when they were younger. I now adopt that philosophy to other areas of my life.

I'm not saying to just live for the moment, and not give a thought to the future, but I think concern needs to be placed on maximising your time. I'm at uni now, and I work part time. I work simply to allow me to live... travel, drink, put petrol in the car, etc. But I make sure I never spend too much time working, because I realise as an unqualified student I get paid 5/8th's of fuck all and it's not worth too much of my time to be out there working right now.

I will have a high paying job once I leave uni, and that is when I'll earn money. For the next 4 years though, I will have as much fun as possible ( as well as completing uni), in the knowledge that in that period I will be bestown with the greatest amount of freedom I will ever have (excluding retirement).

Interesting arguments being put forward here though.

MasterOfReality
22-07-2008, 12:39 PM
Also on the subject of sacrificing your time with a view to an early retirement,

Would you rather race the Megavalanche when you're young and at your peak or would you rather wait 20-30 years and find that you may not be fit enough to race it at all?

I don't really have burning plans to do anything mega adventurous or travel the world. Personally I can't see the point in burning through tens of thousands of dollars just for fun, when you could put that money to good use, principally to make life easier later on. Sure, I'll go on a holiday when I can afford it, not by extending my home loan or anything like that.

I have friends that travel the world constantly, good for them, they have heaps of fun but they are forgetting that living the good life now means they will still be dragging their ass out of bed on a winters morning when they are 65 to battle the peak hour traffic on the way to work.

My priorities are work hard now, set myself up and then sit back and relax.

scblack
22-07-2008, 12:39 PM
Also on the subject of sacrificing your time with a view to an early retirement,

Would you rather race the Megavalanche when you're young and at your peak or would you rather wait 20-30 years and find that you may not be fit enough to race it at all?
You contradict yourself I think. If you earn more money, you can afford the airfares and accommodation easily to do it anyhow. It can be paid for easily, rather than scrimping and saving and sacrificing other stuff for a couple of years to do it.

MoR's goal is not SOLELY to squirrel every cent away. (As far as I read it).

Arete
22-07-2008, 12:39 PM
Hmm, well , I work long hours and get paid very modestly as a collection officer at a museum. I also did 8 (yes 8) years of teritary study to get where I want to be. However, I'm 26 and this: http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v47/ochhi/DSC_0350.jpg and this:http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v47/ochhi/dive3.jpg

are photos of me at work. I Love my job, I look forward to going to work. I also love the fact that I'm making a positive difference to the planet by providing conservation management and scientific knowledge instead of just making someone a profit.

My aim is to slowly move up the ranks - it's be nice to not have to live paycheck to paycheck, and I'm slowly paying off the car loan (and I just sold my not very sensible car for a cough Magna cough cause insurance etc wasn't worth it anymore) and putting away a bit of nest egg - not much but now I'm not going to starve if I don't get paid next week.

I'm also looking forward to my girlfriend moving down to Adelaide from Canberra after 2 years of long distance crap, and living together.

My aims are to continue to love work and not give a stuff about when I retire cause I'd do it for free, try and be financially smart enough to afford what I need and a few of the things I want, and prehaps even start a family in the future (we'll see how living together and raising my new mastif pup goes first).

Every now and then I think it would be nice to piss it all off and go instruct diving and pick up girls in Thailand, or get a haircut and suit and try for a consulting job that pays a fortune, but I think my current direction's pretty good for now.

MasterOfReality
22-07-2008, 12:42 PM
MoR's goal is not SOLELY to squirrel every cent away. (As far as I read it).

Thats right.

I certainly don't live like a tightass, but I live within my means. I still have all the toys I could want, but I just don't go overboard with them.

Going overboard comes later when I am set :D

NeBoS
22-07-2008, 12:48 PM
That said, I work 2 jobs in addition to a full time uni load, and I believe I am more than capable of making plenty of money if I actually cared about it... but I don't.

Good point. Sure, everyone wants to be wealthy, but do you really care about or want copious amounts of cash? Will this benefit your life in a meaningful manner? I have met some of the wealthiest people in Sydney and i can tell you that about 60/70% are not very happy people - their money has done nothing to benefit their lives other than allow them a few material possessions. I spose these questions are very subjective, but its not far from the truth.

For me, i dont have a great desire to become wealthy, but i don't want to struggle for money.I want my life to be meaningful, and improve the issues in the world in any way i can. I want to raise some children, and give them the best life i can, as my parents have done for me. I suppose the other area to aim towards is finding balance in your life, and honesty, and integrity.

For me, these things matter.


EDIT:

Just read Arete's post: yeh work is a massive issue for everyone - being happy in your chosen profession is something that i have aimed for too..

scblack
22-07-2008, 12:56 PM
Thats right.

I certainly don't live like a tightass, but I live within my means. I still have all the toys I could want, but I just don't go overboard with them.

Going overboard comes later when I am set :D
Good work for you.:)

I am going to take a backward step on the tone of my previous posts. I earn good money, and am likely to retire well. Thats important to me too, as it is for you.

BUT I now have two lovely little daughters who are the focus of my world. I have worked myself into a role and position that I do not have to work beyond 8am-5pm hours to earn that good money. I am very qualified and have good experience in the roles I do. But I have taken the conscious decision not work much past 5pm, as I come home to two girls running to the door (one crawls) screaming for daddy.

But I am a bit older than you now 38 but up to the last two years I also worked extremely hard to set myself up. I am happy with that decision, as it means I can have a good new car, good new home. It means I am able to spend all my time at home with the kids, rather than having to fix that 40year old house, or tinker (waste time) with a clapped out used car.

What I am saying is I was in your shoes up to about 3years ago. Now the focus has changed a little. I am happy with that. Don't just be too focussed on ONE thing alone.

I worked bloody hard to set myself up, and now that pays off as I have the time with my kids.

PINT of Stella, mate!
22-07-2008, 12:59 PM
You contradict yourself I think. If you earn more money, you can afford the airfares and accommodation easily to do it anyhow. It can be paid for easily, rather than scrimping and saving and sacrificing other stuff for a couple of years to do it.



I'm not contradicting myself at all. My stance is still that by putting in the long hours, you're sacrificing the time available to see the world / raise kids etc.

Everybody I know who goes for the 'money first' approach will generally spend just 2 - 3 weeks of the year on holiday abroad and it'll usually be at a pricey resort on an exotic island somewhere (or skiiing for a week) or will blow all their disposable income on expensive toys like boats, flash cars or building a conservatory.

I mean who the f*** deep down, really needs a conservatory?

The other thing I've noticed is that a lot of people who work themselves to the bone become institutionalised and still end up working into their 60's. There's always an extra extension needed for the house or a bigger and better boat to save up for. For what? To show off to the neighbours? Are they actually scared of retirement? In some ways I don't blame 'em. To undergo such a drastic lifestyle change at such a late stage in life is not something that'd be easy for a lot of people.

I prefer to take my work and leisure in equal measures (yup, sheer poetry, I know :cool:) while I can, and if it means that I'm still working half the year when I'm in my mid-60's then so be it. I've still got the other half to enjoy and I enjoy it, I bloody will!

;)

MasterOfReality
22-07-2008, 01:05 PM
Good work for you.:)

I am going to take a backward step on the tone of my previous posts. I earn good money, and am likely to retire well. Thats important to me too, as it is for you.

BUT I now have two lovely little daughters who are the focus of my world. I have worked myself into a role and position that I do not have to work beyond 8am-5pm hours to earn that good money. I am very qualified and have good experience in the roles I do. But I have taken the conscious decision not work much past 5pm, as I come home to two girls running to the door (one crawls) screaming for daddy.

But I am a bit older than you now 38 but up to the last two years I also worked extremely hard to set myself up. I am happy with that decision, as it means I can have a good new car, good new home. It means I am able to spend all my time at home with the kids, rather than having to fix that 40year old house, or tinker (waste time) with a clapped out used car.

What I am saying is I was in your shoes up to about 3years ago. Now the focus has changed a little. I am happy with that. Don't just be too focussed on ONE thing alone.

I worked bloody hard to set myself up, and now that pays off as I have the time with my kids.

Where you are now, with your daughters, is the place where I want to be in the near future, hence my money quest now. I want my kids to have the best of everything, I don't want my future wife to work if she doesn't want to. I want to be able to take care of my parents or sister later on in life if they ever need anything.

Granted, you have 10 years on me, but that time will be very important to me as it will allow me to raise a family in a financially stable environment.

I like your thinking :)

Shrekmeister
22-07-2008, 01:12 PM
we all need to find a balance in middle ground though....a comfortable life if there is such a thing...sure work hard and earn the dollars, however dont burn out...

have just spent 12 months working for a investment bank in the city....

where the culture was mega, mega hours and stress...

the younger generation in the company looked to be making good money when they are getting paid million dollar salaries plus similar bonuses in their mid 20's....

however the other side of the coin is the plenty in the same company who are burning out and unable to work again having extreme health issues in their mid 30's due to a few years of being overworked and over stressed....

Moggio
22-07-2008, 01:24 PM
I only really care about spending as much time with my family, especially my children. I have an old car, 2nd hand bike, live modestly and don't buy useless crap. I make enough money to support that lifestyle, my wife stays at home and looks after the kids and I work from home for too little money.

All this looking to the future and wanting to be set up is crap. How set up?, what amount of money is necessary. You can name a figure and the raise it.. its just as meaningless... you are just chasing an impossible goal while ignoring what you actually have.

The most precious things in life can be taken away from you at any moment... enjoy and nurture whats most important now and who cares about chasing supposed futures.

MasterOfReality
22-07-2008, 01:28 PM
I only really care about spending as much time with my family, especially my children. I have an old car, 2nd hand bike, live modestly and don't buy useless crap. I make enough money to support that lifestyle, my wife stays at home and looks after the kids and I work from home for too little money.

All this looking to the future and wanting to be set up is crap. How set up?, what amount of money is necessary. You can name a figure and the raise it.. its just as meaningless... you are just chasing an impossible goal while ignoring what you actually have.

The most precious things in life can be taken away from you at any moment... enjoy and nurture whats most important now and who cares about chasing supposed futures.

How is it crap? What is wrong with wanting to better one's situation?

Like I said before, everyone has different priorities.

Moggio
22-07-2008, 01:41 PM
How is it crap? What is wrong with wanting to better one's situation?

Quantify it then... when do you stop. You are chasing an impossible goal?

How much money do you want/need? Give a figure... now why not an extra 20% more than that.. or 30%? Its ok to want more, but chasing it is chasing a carrot.

What equates to security.. its a pipe dream. Security from what.. a few things you can predict... maybe from being in a dangerous suburb, or drive a safer car, have your insurance paid up. But what about everything else especially health issues which can strike you down anytime.

People spend all their time chasing for some indefinable goal in life that will equate to happiness. If they ever reach it do you think it makes them happy?

What is important is to appreciate what you have and find what's amazing in that... everything else that comes along is a bonus.

So nothing wrong at improving ones situation but not at the expense of wasting what you have at the present moment.

MasterOfReality
22-07-2008, 02:00 PM
Quantify it then... when do you stop. You are chasing an impossible goal?

How much money do you want/need? Give a figure... now why not an extra 20% more than that.. or 30%? Its ok to want more, but chasing it is chasing a carrot.

What equates to security.. its a pipe dream. Security from what.. a few things you can predict... maybe from being in a dangerous suburb, or drive a safer car, have your insurance paid up. But what about everything else especially health issues which can strike you down anytime.

People spend all their time chasing for some indefinable goal in life that will equate to happiness. If they ever reach it do you think it makes them happy?

What is important is to appreciate what you have and find what's amazing in that... everything else that comes along is a bonus.

So nothing wrong at improving ones situation but not at the expense of wasting what you have at the present moment.

When do I stop? When I can retire comfortably without zero money issues.

How much money do I want/need? As far as I am concerned, you can never have enough or earn enough. Those who say otherwise do so out of spite.

Security? Sure, I aspire to having a nice house, driving a nice car, living in a nice suburb, living a good lifestyle. Why not if you can afford it? Health issues is something I do not worry about. Like you said, it can strike you down at any time, but its not a good enough reason for me to be complacent about my own situation now.

I don't waste what I have at the present moment. I enjoy life. I have a decent car, job, house and a great girlfriend. I want the best for myself, my girlfriend and my family. Simple as that.

Ziggy
22-07-2008, 02:13 PM
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v47/ochhi/DSC_0350.jpg


You have an uncanny resemblance to Zack De La Rocha :)

PINT of Stella, mate!
22-07-2008, 02:29 PM
When do I stop? When I can retire comfortably without zero money issues.

How much money do I want/need? As far as I am concerned, you can never have enough or earn enough. .

So in other words, you'll never stop?

MasterOfReality
22-07-2008, 02:40 PM
So in other words, you'll never stop?

No, taken out of context.

I will stop when I can retire comfortably.

My comment about you can never have enough money is aimed at those who's jealousy is born through apathy and contempt of those who do well for themselves.

TheBofh
22-07-2008, 02:48 PM
When do I stop? When I can retire comfortably without zero money issues. An Irish writer once made the comment, "why would I want to die leaving thousands when I can die owing thousands?".

In my last job I was chatting to a colleague while we were in the kitchen & he said he drank coffee all day to keep him alert & then had to take sleeping tablets so he could sleep. I just don't think work is that important if it's screwing you up like that.

Moggio
22-07-2008, 02:56 PM
When do I stop? When I can retire comfortably without zero money issues.

How much money do I want/need? As far as I am concerned, you can never have enough or earn enough. Those who say otherwise do so out of spite.

I don't waste what I have at the present moment. I enjoy life. I have a decent car, job, house and a great girlfriend. I want the best for myself, my girlfriend and my family. Simple as that.

What is "comfortable" and what is "zero money issues"? These are the "how long is a piece of string". If you keep aquiring money and stuff you will just need more money for you to feel you are comfortable... its a vicious circle.

Wanting the best? What is the best? What a meaningless statement!!

I don't want to come across all Dali Lama, because I'm not, I am a cyncial bastard and truthfully I would like to earn more and have some more stability, but I wouldn't put anything in front of the the things that when I am old and sitting in some theoretical rocking chair watching the sunset, I would be glad to have nurtured and experienced to the full.

PINT of Stella, mate!
22-07-2008, 03:03 PM
No, taken out of context.

I will stop when I can retire comfortably.

My comment about you can never have enough money is aimed at those who's jealousy is born through apathy and contempt of those who do well for themselves.

I'm not sure where the jealousy angle's coming in? Most people who've posted haven't claimed to be jealous of your position and there's certainly no contempt being expressed.

Personally I find my time to be a lot more valuable than my cashflow. At present I'm working in the North Sea as a diver so I've got no real money worries ;) however when I get back to Melbourne for summer I will most likely spend it working as a rope access tech in the CBD. It's a drastic drop in wages but it's a job where I can take days off whenever I like, perv on office chicks and knock off at 3pm whilst still maintaining enough cash flow to pay the rent and supplement my rampant alcoholism:p

Cave Dweller
22-07-2008, 03:03 PM
My comment about you can never have enough money is aimed at those who's jealousy is born through apathy and contempt of those who do well for themselves.

Can you post some $$ figures so i can be jealous about it? Thanks ;)

MasterOfReality
22-07-2008, 03:07 PM
Edit - bugger it, i can't be bothered explaining it any more. It was explained succinctly in Sawtell's and scblack's posts.

Seems like expressing a desire for money is not the done thing to do.

ajay
22-07-2008, 03:16 PM
Do what ever makes you happy...

If thats being an Mining Engineering Mgr and earning copius amounts of cash, then so be it.
If thats playing gig 4 nights a week for $400, then so be it.
If thats providing enough solely so that your kids have the opportunity to choose their own direction, then so be it.

You can bicker, argue and build your moral high ground and out of mud till the cows come home, but everyone has their own idea of whats important and how to prioritise accordingly.

Life just IS

Jimass
22-07-2008, 03:24 PM
Do what ever makes you happy...

If thats being an Mining Engineering Mgr and earning copius amounts of cash, then so be it.
If thats playing gig 4 nights a week for $400, then so be it.
If thats providing enough solely so that your kids have the opportunity to choose their own direction, then so be it.

You can bicker, argue and build your moral high ground and out of mud till the cows come home, but everyone has their own idea of whats important and how to prioritise accordingly.

Life just IS


Agree'd, Couldn't have said it any better my friend.

S.
22-07-2008, 03:26 PM
Do what ever makes you happy...

If thats being an Mining Engineering Mgr and earning copius amounts of cash, then so be it.
If thats playing gig 4 nights a week for $400, then so be it.
If thats providing enough solely so that your kids have the opportunity to choose their own direction, then so be it.

You can bicker, argue and build your moral high ground and out of mud till the cows come home, but everyone has their own idea of whats important and how to prioritise accordingly.

Life just IS

No. Do what IIIII say :)

I think you've got it in one tho man... the best way to live your life isn't the same for everyone. Personally I always regret the things I haven't done more than the things I have (hah says me at the ripe old age of 22) so I'm pretty keen to make sure I don't miss out on the experiences and opportunities I get now. I don't really care about money as long as it's not a huge issue (like I can't eat or do ANYTHING, then it'd be a problem), though for sure if someone offered me a $100k/year job I'd think it was pretty handy.

Strangely though, the common theme here seems to be to work hard towards whatever it is that you want - whether that is doing particular things, having a certain lifestyle now, or being able to live comfortably with minimal effort in the future.

But the way I drive, I couldn't justify putting money into superannuation :p

sawtell
22-07-2008, 03:55 PM
Yeah but by the same token, what do YOU have to show for it? A bigger number on your bank statement?



i have everything i coudl really want atm, i have a motorbike, 3 push bikes, a car, nice clothes, and i can afford to use these things, as i can afford the wear and tear, and replacement cost's... if i fold a wheel big deal, i buy a new one.
i want to go for a drive to the snow, fuck petrols 1.70 a litre, its going to cost me 100 bucks.. o well i worked yesterday. compared to mates who earn 100 bucks a week, they fold a wheel, they have to save for a few weeks, and go with out doing anything to buy a new one, or they want to go to the snow, they have not do anything at all for the week, yeah they are really living the life arnt they, not working, having all this free time to do what they want.

and at the end of this i still save more then half my pay cheque.

now im guessing i will get a reply from someone sayign possesions arnt everything, you have no time to use all yoru money BUT.

I have my weekends free where i can do what i want, the same as anyone else. all up i only do about 50 hours of stuff (plus homework/study).. which is pretty close to a normal full tiem worker.


i still have fun, work or school has never limited my social life, you work around it.


and i should also ad, alot of my work time is in the hours of 3-7, of which i would be doing nothing any way ...


but yeah this is goign offtopic, i have goals, im going to be faster then farlap!

7point3
22-07-2008, 06:33 PM
there is no real purpose i believe.
me personally, i hate the idea of planning my life

i love riding so i do it whenever i can, i come home only to sleep and eat.
i dont understand what the point in 90% of the things im forced to learn in school and i hate the fact that because i love riding and i dont do assignments im not going to get good marks.
I find actual working is alot better than what i do at school.
hopefully one day i will find a job that suits me and that its enough to support me and a family, also fund my many bikes so i can travel to different places and just ride.

jackmac91
22-07-2008, 06:48 PM
Well, I'm 16 years old, I dropped out of school after year 10.
I now work full time and put in about 40-50 hours a week and earn fuck all. (about 400-500 depending on the hours)
For now I'm happy, I can go out and have some fun on the weekend and save for a car. I pay bord so I loose some money there,
I find that I tire of situations rather quickly so I tend to look for ways to get out and have some fun. In the end I'd rather die poor and having and happy life than die rich and having worked my ass of all my life.
But recently I have discovered that Even if I died right fucking now with no girlfriend/wife, no car, no money and no accomplishments to my name....The world will invariably be indifferent. It doesn't matter in the slightest.
So for my sake I'll be having all the fun I can over the corse of my very short and equally pointless life.

fuck I'm a little ray of sunshine:)

olly1oo6
22-07-2008, 07:28 PM
How much money do I want/need? As far as I am concerned, you can never have enough or earn enough. Those who say otherwise do so out of spite.


I think there is an element of that involved in many (not everyones) beliefs, as much as they would hate to admit it.

For me; I spent my younger years working just a bit harder, staying at home that one extra weekend a month, and overall I am happy that I have done that because it affords me the luxury of studying law. At first I took little interest in it; but it's a lot of fun. I am a very poor and unburdened person right now, but the parties, the time i get off to ride and enjoy time with friends......I really cannot complain...even if my bank account and my assets are on the very low side of the scale for now.

I like the idea of being able to drive a good car, into a good house, in a good suburb. But at the sacrifice of all my free time and life? Not a chance. Reaching a compromise is what I am chasing.


Truly, earning 200k and driving a 911, earning 50k and taking the bus; as long as you are confident in your successes, and happy with what you do, that's all that matters.

sawtell
22-07-2008, 07:47 PM
Truly, earning 200k and driving a 911, earning 50k and taking the bus; as long as you are confident in your successes, and happy with what you do, that's all that matters.

defintaly, but once you have experienced the 200k, and driving a porshce, you are not going to go back the the 50k and taking the bus with out a fight..

I dont come from a super filthy rich family, but we are fairly well off, live in a good area, both parents drive good cars, have good jobs etc, as with my extended family all fairly well off...

i personaly after living my child hood, (my parents were not poor, but defintaly not as finacinaly well off as they are now), would put my future family though that (if i have one haha).

spose what im trying to say is, once youve experienced both sides rich and poor, its fairly easy to say what you would prefer.

but ey, if some ones happy with their 45k a year job in a factory stackign boxes their whole life go for it!

sxereturn
22-07-2008, 09:04 PM
defintaly, but once you have experienced the 200k, and driving a porshce, you are not going to go back the the 50k and taking the bus with out a fight..



You would be surprised at how often people make that "backwards" step. $200,000 a year jobs nearly always carry far more responsibility, dedication and accountability than a $50,000 a year job. When the stress and time involved in such a job starts to take a toll on your happiness and the happiness of those you love, all of a sudden a 6 bedroom house and a flash car don't seem all that appealing.

Work to live, don't live to work.

Deano904
22-07-2008, 09:32 PM
I believe it all comes down to what you want here & now, shore its good to but some aside for that so called rainy day in the future, so it may mean working a little more than you'd liked. but is all about lifestyle choice, if you need the big house, expensive car, all well & good for you.

Personally I moved here 8yrs ago with the intention of bettering my lifestyle & believe I have done so. Some of my friend frown on my choice of lifestyle as I now earn half as much as I did OS, but in doing so I also take more time off. 8-10wks in fact, to do with as I please normally biking holidays in NZ, regular XC trips to the snowys & flying interstate to see friends & ride :D. though I have the advantage of being a contractor so can take off what every time I want, & work the odd weekend if I need too. Sadly alot of others only get 4wks leave ayear, not shore how you manage though.

Like I said it comes down to the lifestyle you want for yourself. I have friends at both ends of the scale too one who works 3dyas a week so he can surf the rest & others who do 70hrs awk to have the overseas trips & big house. either way where all happy with the life styles we have now, but that could all change with our circumstances in the future. I know though that if I earnt more at the present time id probably have more time off, after all who really want to work:p

dhmtbr006
22-07-2008, 09:58 PM
That is a toughy, i guess mine is to not have to many regrets after its all said and done. Of course everyone is gonna have regrets, but i would like to look back and say more often than not i made the right decision. Id be the first to admit i was given some pretty big oppurtunities, especially in regards to sport, particulary soccer, that i passed on and already i sometimes think man you were stupid for not sticking with it. But i would love to think that in some years i can look back and say although it was risky back then, im now in a position, whether it be a great job or high paying court settlement due to marrying and than divorcing a wealthy celebrity, where that risk...*sniff* paid off *sniff* I ahh, it's just something in my eye.

fattyandthepiemakers
22-07-2008, 09:59 PM
Win lotto mate.

b_S
22-07-2008, 10:06 PM
Inanity + insanity

it's fun.

'Ross
22-07-2008, 10:12 PM
At least there doesn't seem to be any prejudice in this thread. Whatever makes the individual happy is what counts, and often people will be discriminated against because their idea of fun and enjoyment is outside the norm or slightly obscure. As long as you can find a chance to do what YOU enjoy, not what society/peers/cunts expect from you:)

GeoffRidesBikes
22-07-2008, 10:17 PM
I'm 16 years, 7 months and 6 days old.

I'm in Year 12 at a private school. I ride bikes. I work at a Sanity store here in suburbian West Australia. I'm at high risk of not graduating high school because I'm not acheiving the required level in English. I keep telling ymself I'll pull my neck out and get that little bit higher grade, but my lack of self discipline prevails (or does it?) and I often find myself wasting time and mucking about, not getting stuff in in the required time, the list really goes on. It's nobody's fault but my own, maybe I can pick it up, but right now I don't think I can. No use whining really, I just have to do better.

What do I think the point of my life is? Well I can't tell you what the point of the next 70 odd years (hopefully that many!) of my life is, but I know that right now I just have to keep myself happy and graduate high school. Whatever I have to do to do that is just going to have to be done.

I have a girlfriend of whom I've been with for but a few short weeks. Maybe my point in life is to spend it with her? I don't know.

What I'm getting at, in a roundabout look-at-me kind of way, is that I don't think anybody can predict the ultimate point of their life, only where their life is at right now.

I'm no profound Dalai Lama, but that's my outlook on it.

NB: Firefox says "Dalai" is a typo of "Dalia". Looks like Firefox fails.

misk_one
23-07-2008, 11:36 AM
deep!
this thread is like a 'story of your life' style lol

ill give you a quick run down i guess?
left schoolat 15, started working full time as a chef, got kicked out of home at 16,
rented various houses, moved to melbourne, rented more various houses, changed jobs
at 20 to start working in a call centre - im now turning 22 in less than a month.
more pay and better conditions fuck yeah.

over my general life there has been ahrd partying and much much random shit.

i tinker with fast cars, drugs and hardstyle tracks, with a fine love of skating and biking :)
pretty much sums me up in a nutshell <3
this would be my purpose (isn't that like a turtoise? lol) :D

Doggy
23-07-2008, 03:44 PM
You would be surprised at how often people make that "backwards" step. $200,000 a year jobs nearly always carry far more responsibility, dedication and accountability than a $50,000 a year job. When the stress and time involved in such a job starts to take a toll on your happiness and the happiness of those you love, all of a sudden a 6 bedroom house and a flash car don't seem all that appealing.

Work to live, don't live to work.

I for one have taken a backward step like that. I was earning between 3 and 4 grand a week about 3 or so years ago. More then enough money to live on and be happy, my wife(then girlfriend) didnt need to work and I had money. It wasnt much f*cking good when all I did was work or sleep and eat inbetween. All I saw of my other half was saying goodbye in the morning and goodnight in the evening. I decided there and then that money isnt everything for me, as long as I earn enough to pay for my house, toys and living I am happy. A good mate of mine who is also a sparky, but has his own company, stayed earning that coin but has a shiteload more stress in his life, he doesnt really get to see his daughter or missus and is always to tired to do anything other then work and isnt all that happy about it. I now work alot less, albeit I also earn less money but still more then enough and more importantly I get to spend more time with my wife and friends living life (funny really since I am writing this from Adelaide where I am for work:rolleyes:).
I am happy as I am, people take me for who I am and what I do. I am happy doing what I do, where my career is heading and where my life is heading. I am looking forward to having kids in a couple of years and spending my time with them.
As long as I remain happy and be who I am I know I am being successful

Rider Down!!!
24-07-2008, 08:20 PM
I live,and will always live by the 4 F's with the ladies..;)

maxybon1234
25-07-2008, 09:30 PM
This is a really intersesting thread, my turn:
I'm one of those people that doesn't really care what they do as long as they're having fun and are happy with it. I really want to go into graphic design since I've always loved art and design, inside the next couple of years (i'm in yr. 12 now), but I want to travel a bit before. next Year I plan to work in the U.S in a summer camp then head up to Whistler after (yaeh!!) then yeah, um go from there.
To me it's just making the most of life as if I were to die tommorow (yet i sit here cruising the wonderful world of farkin LOL), but as long as I'm having fun, still got my best mates, and can still ride!!!! I'm happy as a pig in shit, so I'll leave you with a few quotes (god Knows where i got them from - can't remember LOL):
Never regret anything, regret being caught
A life lived without regret means you haven't really tried, and
the wrong way is the my way!!! HAHA :p