Mini Trucks Or Raised Up 4wd's?

[Antho188]

Whats Your Opinion. Want To See What Farkiners, Would Prefer To Drive


Mini Trucks
http://img161.imageshack.us/img161/3717/ecc097bs8.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

Off Road Trucks
http://img161.imageshack.us/img161/2691/hilux1qn0.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

[-Jordan-]

What ever the owner prefers.... :confused:

Raised 4WD's aren't great for the roads (but still can fine).. mini trucks aren't great if you plan on driving on a road where a pebble may be laying.

I prefer big trucks.. but thats just me. There are still some very nice mini trucks around, like 'dra93n'.

http://b4.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/01554/44/97/1554567944_l.jpg

edit: those 2 examples you put in are ridiculous. They're about as far each way you can get.

[Kirky]

Depends what for.

If you are crusing around the city at night, you want a fully pimp macheine.

If you want to take you bikes or go anyere cool, you want the 4X4.

So, having fun offroading or looking like a tool that listens to bad music. Easy choice for me.

[Kane.]

If i was you, I would go with this beast :p

You can go pimping and also off road all round
Where do i get my great thoughts from :rolleyes:

http://i6.tinypic.com/8g6cgm0.jpg

[NCR600]

Neither are appropriate for public roads.

A choice between a highly specialised off road vehicle and a badly modified and doubtlessly highly impractical, dangerous and evil handling show car? Not much of a choice is it?

[Arete]

Why take a vehicle designed purely for utilitarian, practical purposes and make it completely impractical?

Hiluxes aren't designed to handle, or look very good. They're designed to get you, and a lot of stuff places. Jacking them up and strapping on "I married my sibling" sized aerials and bars probably makes them better for the bush but is pretty antisocial and "fuck everyone" in the city.

If I wanted a "lifestyle" ute, I'd get a falcodore ute. They're better styled, handle better and go better than a 4 banger jap ute. If I wanted an impractical, expensive "look at mi" machine I'd probably buy a Lotus or something. At least it would be fun to drive too. Minitrucks I don't get at all.

[-Jordan-]

Neither are appropriate for public roads.

A choice between a highly specialised off road vehicle and a badly modified and doubtlessly highly impractical, dangerous and evil handling show car? Not much of a choice is it?

Well I can tell you which one you're going to come out of best in a crash... I'm going to go with that one. :p

[Antho188]

Well I can tell you which one you're going to come out of best in a crash... I'm going to go with that one. :p


probably a raised up.. higher, more chance of rolling... loll but depends what your doing in either ute...

nothing silly, you shouldnt hurt yourself lol

[VTSS350]

You need a third option in your poll,

Neither - they are both useless.

[fletcha2233]

i would go both
the 4x4 one for a shuttle thrash bush bash machine.
and the mini truck for hecktic posing reasons:p

[-Jordan-]

probably a raised up.. higher, more chance of rolling... loll but depends what your doing in either ute...

nothing silly, you shouldnt hurt yourself lol

Not really what I meant... but yes, they would be easier to roll.

Still, I'd rather roll than a bull-bar to the face.

[tu plang]

You need a third option in your poll,

Neither - they are both useless.

here, here.

[Daver]

You need a third option in your poll,

Neither - they are both useless.

Haha. how about Neither: I'd rather walk...

[Dan.]

If i was you, I would go with this beast :p

You can go pimping and also off road all round
Where do i get my great thoughts from :rolleyes:

http://i6.tinypic.com/8g6cgm0.jpg

I dont think you get far into the bush. Hummers only have a 60L tank.

[bigkevthumper]

I dont think you get far into the bush. Hummers only have a 60L tank.

And plus they are two wide for most of the tracks.
Had one in the area ages ago haha. Funney watching it get its mirrors broken by massive tree branches.

[kyleman]

Ide definataly want the first if I had depth perseption.
Definatally go the second rigged up 4wd but ide only have one if I lived in bush and went 4wding ect..not if i lived in the suburbs just to look cool.
If you put both of them together you get those new hiluxes...everyone gets big 20" chrome mags on them. They can look alright..

[bitterbro]

Well I can tell you which one you're going to come out of best in a crash... I'm going to go with that one. :p

I think the higher up one would come better off in a crash. I think the low-rider would get driven on, yet the higher one may be prone to rolling. Tough one actually

[Specialized Freerider]

Personally i'd get a F-650, but thats just me.

[luke.b]

pretty antisocial and "fuck everyone" in the city.


Pretty much a positive reason to get one. :p;)

I think the higher up one would come better off in a crash. I think the low-rider would get driven on, yet the higher one may be prone to rolling. Tough one actually

The 4x4 style will domminate in a crash. Possibly due to the mass amount of steel welded onto the front end. Possibly.

[Matt H]

Personally i'd get a F-650, but thats just me.

Gahh.

I don't even know you, but for saying that you'd get an F-650 in the first place, you've lost any future respect you may have from me...

:p

[PINT of Stella, mate!]

I dont think you get far into the bush. Hummers only have a 60L tank.

In most areas of the world they tend to attract RPG's as well!

<sigh> If only I could get a hold of an RPG launcher in Melbourne :(

[Matt H]

Heh, I thought that there's still about 8 or 9 floating around though? :p

[Elbo]

I would just prefer to drive my '85 4Runner, not raised, not lowered. Drives reasonably well on road, but is just as capable on most of the off road tracks I will ever go on. In fact it has greater clearance than any stock Patrol I've seen.

As for mini trucks, it defeats the purpose, those single cab Hilux's are designed to be a workman's ute. When they are lowered that much, the tray becomes practically useless as you can't put anything of significant weight in there and in my opinion, they have a massive 'tool factor' to them. As I have said in other car related threads, function over fashion. Wow! a Mini Truck might look good, but if you have to slow to 1 km/h and drive slightly sideways over every speed bump in the road. What is the point? You wouldn't even be able to drive up a gutter, a normal sedan could probably do that!

[dabomb_freerider]

mini truck i don't like hillbilly cars mini trucks look alright jacked up cars are worse to drive

[Sethius]

ive got a raised hilux extra cab, and its bloody handy around here. track building and my car was the only that was able to get past a tree down as going bush and drains etc had enough clearance, but it is slowly turning into a more off road comp based car(roll bar,custom bar up front etc), handles like shit on the road and has no guts, but you don't really have to worry about being booked for speeding and its handy when you can see over a majority of other 4wds when in town.

4wd utes would be the most common car around here, hiluxs probably being no.1 and rodeo/navara being close behind. this street has 4 lux's in it and like 6 houses, and the other 2 have a shortwheel base landcruiser and a nissan xtrail. all depends what you do and where you live.

[taylor-91]

Not fussed on both...mini truck would be first preference but there are some super tidy 4wds out there...snapped this one when overseas in hawaii

http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g266/fueler-child/P4153525.jpg

[Alec McJo]

I hate the whole Mini trucking thing, but just to clear it up... The minitrucks as low as that one in the picture aren't always that low. When your driving it the airbags jack it up.

[stpFREEEK]

Id have both, throw the bmxs in the back of a mini-truck, and then later go do shuttles in a big ute on some hill.

[wtp-addict]

mini truck for me thanx...

I just love jordy k's white one...

[Rik]

You need a third option in your pollSorted... vote away ;)

[Ham]

i dont mind lowered cars, i own one however i dont get mini trucks at all i dont think they look good at all and not practical.

as for raised 4wds yeah go for it just dont try and drive it in the city that is silly.

[gravelclimber]

I just lifted my jeep 3 inches and put on some 31" tyres. Handles way better on and off road now. The stock suspension in most 4wds is shit.

Not exactly a monster truck but I like it:

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2272/2073637438_d7daa358be.jpg

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2053/2073637566_a56ccdaae8.jpg

[ando_freeagent]

id prefer just a normal height ute...

[NH_]

yeh normal height is the win, ever wondered that these cars are at a set height because they perform best at that height? jacking them up just makes them unstable and handle like shite and lowering them is so impractical you scrape going over a small speed bump

ill keep my 2wd hilux thanks, good enough on roads and can still go offroad with ease, not to mention that extra money could be spent on making the car work better not just raising it and lowering it for the hell of it

[|Matt|]

I just lifted my jeep 3 inches and put on some 31" tyres. Handles way better on and off road now. The stock suspension in most 4wds is shit.

Not exactly a monster truck but I like it:


Thats so hot! I've never met any other bloke who likes Wranglers, but I love them!

[jamit]

Both mini for cruzin and std height 4wd for uplifts and bush bashing. Not really into rock crawling and extreme 4wd driving so lifting it would be pointless to me.

As to the load capacity of the mini's generally it increases because of the airbags. But all that is useless if the builder has notched the chassis and had to tub the tray to fit the wheels and diff when aired out :confused:

My personnel favorite would be a 20's pickup rod like so;

http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f259/jamit2006/SMall.jpg

[donthucktoflat]

Thats so hot! I've never met any other bloke who likes Wranglers, but I love them!

do you like the new LWD JK wrangler? pick up the newest 4wd action and have a squizz at the one in there.

they reckon it's the most comprehensively modded JKs so far.


i love both. i love goin bush in my rocky, but i also love cruising in a mini. i really dont understand why people are so against minis. i also dont believe that some people are so dumb as to think that really loooow minis aren't bagged. silly little fuckers.

for those that love minis and are "down" with the scene. anyone know drgnlo? orange truck w/ caddies? lives in dubbo, owned by a mate, lays rail, is being bodydropped damn cool truck.

[jaseh]

Raised 4WD all the way, not a ute though, too impractical when you have kids.
This is what I use to cart kids and bikes..

http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o320/ultraman08/Chamonix%201997/CA582T1V.jpg

[Matt H]

http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f259/jamit2006/SMall.jpg

I don't really know much at all about hotrods like that so I'm curious as to how much horsepower they actually put out?

[thecat]

I hate the whole Mini trucking thing, but just to clear it up... The minitrucks as low as that one in the picture aren't always that low. When your driving it the airbags jack it up.

Which makes them even worse as wankers drive around with uneven aribags so the front is up and the back down or one side up other down. Stupid, stupid stuff

[Doggy]

4wds all the way....only thing mini trucks are good for is wheel chocks

[demo9pro]

(I think I was the one that started this debate with you haha)

Ive got best of both worlds.....:p

Pimp and still very capable of going off road....320kW, so it can also keep up to most high performance cars...:)

http://i72.photobucket.com/albums/i193/atomic_punk2002/DSC01792.jpg


And to answer your question, I have to say BIGGGG 4WD'S

[slip]

....320kW, so it can also keep up to most high performance cars...:)


Spec list? That's a decent serve for a new Hilux.

[gravelclimber]

Pimp and still very capable of going off road....320kW, so it can also keep up to most high performance cars...


320KW????? That's in the supercar range. I have a great deal of difficulty in believing that.

[demo9pro]

Standard is 185 kW,

Ive added

Vortech V--2 Supercharger
Water to Air Intercooler and
Reprogrammed using Piggyback Computer , which boosts the standard 4L V6 to 300KW
then it got Pace Maker Headers, K&N Filters, Lunkey exhaust.

Got it Dyno Tuned and it got 316kW which came out to about 430 hp...
Standard Torque is about 380Nm. Supercharged about 550Nm


Sure stumps some commondoor owners :D

[slip]

That's some proper power there dude, good base to start from. Engine dyno I assume? If that is a RWKW reading then bugger me.....

[gravelclimber]

Standard is 185 kW,

Ive added

Vortech V-2 Supercharger (7psi)
Water to Air Intercooler and
Reprogrammed using Piggyback Computer , which boosts the standard 4L V6 to 300KW
then it got Pace Maker Headers, K&N Filters, Lunkey exhaust.

Got it Dyno Tuned and it got 316kW which came out to about 430 hp...


Sure stumps some commondoor owners

Damn.....that's impressive.

[demo9pro]

320KW????? That's in the supercar range. I have a great deal of difficulty in believing that.

It actually isnt that hard getting a 4 litre V6 motor to put out that much power. Some Ferrari's for example are a 3.6 V8 that put out almost 400kW...

Its really just a matter of, can it handle the extra power?

[demo9pro]

That's some proper power there dude, good base to start from. Engine dyno I assume? If that is a RWKW reading then bugger me.....

Not RWKW, just engine. Im looking at trying something different in the near future to the current V6 in there, otherwise

Im looking at dropping a 4.7 V8 into it out of the cruisers and seeing what I can get out if it then.

Heres a photo of the set up, this is in the current prado, same motor tho..

http://i72.photobucket.com/albums/i193/atomic_punk2002/4Lv6.jpg

[Alec McJo]

Definitely not digging the wheels at all.

[downhillboy]

If i was you, I would go with this beast :p

You can go pimping and also off road all round
Where do i get my great thoughts from :rolleyes:

http://i6.tinypic.com/8g6cgm0.jpg


oh my god thats huge.bad fuel ecomeney i think it's like 10 miles per galon or something like that

[Alec McJo]

Funniest Hummer related thing I've heard of was when Fergie was selling her Hummer...

You know what the proceeds were going to?


Global Green USA... :rolleyes:

[demo9pro]

Definitely not digging the wheels at all.

What type of wheels DO you dig then?

If anyones wondering its on 18s with 295x65r18 tyres on it...

[Alec McJo]

What type of wheels DO you dig then?

If anyones wondering its on 18s with 295x65r18 tyres on it...

To be honest it's just the look I don't like. Would have thought they were smaller than 18's to be honest as well. At Schoolies we saw this Navara with 24's on it... I was about to post the photo but it seems I have deleted all my Schoolies photos somehow :o

[slip]

Not RWKW, just engine. Im looking at trying something different in the near future to the current V6 in there, otherwise
http://i72.photobucket.com/albums/i193/atomic_punk2002/4Lv6.jpg

The Landcruiser motor might be a good option. There is a guy using a straight 6 4.5L (I think that capacity is right) with a big turbo on it, putting out big power, although the bottom end has started to protest.

Is that a little water to air before the plenum?

I do agree about the wheels, they just make it look a little cheap - maybe what you want given the underbonnet package.

[jr cove]

im not old enough to drive yet but ide prefer a bagged mini truck
best of both worlds yer:p

[demo9pro]

The 4500 twin cam v6 out of the cruisers is capable of punching a fair punch, but its way thirstier then the v8.... Thats why toyota discontinued it...

Id Rather the 4.7 v8...Im not sure if the standard 4.0 v6 out of the hilux/prado has more output power then the old 4.5 v6... Il do some reasearch.

Im also not really in love with the rim's I got on it. Might be going to some black/chrome 22's soon. Other wise some nice black ROH steely's on some Cooper Discoverers STT tyres would go down well? haha

If someone is interested in the 18's currently on there PM me as Ive got them for sale.

They are Advanti Racing Rims on Cooper HT plus tyres, worth big bucks from the tyre shop 95%tyres.

[OISTAFARMA]

Sweet looking ride there Demo9pro:cool:

I definately go the 4x4 option over a mini. V8's go well in cruisers:D

[Tripper2]

Hahaha
"punching myself in the head"

Mini trucks aye... Call them Lo-Lux's =]

I would prefer the big 4WD ones, you can do more with them. Its like BMX's compared to downhill bikes, you can do more =]

But for both those pics I dont really like either, cos they are the old school ones and I know that Lo-Lux only has a little 1.6 - 2.0 litre engine, but then again Evo 9's have small engines too... If you could fit an Evo 9 in that lo-lux and make it 4WD that would be sick... And maybe just get it off the ground a tad more so an ant walking across the road doesnt tear it to bits.

I just voted and saw how many people have wanted you to punch yourself in the head... damn.

[thomas rolleston]

I drive a raised up 4x4 and have never come close to rolling it on the road and i think this would be very hard... have come close to flipping it off road though :D

[slip]

but then again Evo 9's have small engines too... If you could fit an Evo 9 in that lo-lux and make it 4WD that would be sick... And maybe just get it off the ground a tad more so an ant walking across the road doesnt tear it to bits.

If someone went to the trouble and expense of putting Evo gear into a lowlux, it would be one of the most monumentally stupid exercises in the history of mankind. The expense would be huge, along with the trouble. I'm not sure which would be greater.

demo9 - new wheel option sounds nice. Imagine 10 years ago being able to smack a decent vortech setup on a Hilux and pull 300+kw out of it, with stock running gear (assumption). Hah.

[NCR600]

If you could fit an Evo 9 in that lo-lux and make it 4WD that would be sick... And maybe just get it off the ground a tad more so an ant walking across the road doesnt tear it to bits.



Why bother? You'd still get beaten by this bloke. Obviously a painter and decorator in a hurry.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q62JHD0nB8Q

[Alec McJo]

Im also not really in love with the rim's I got on it. Might be going to some black/chrome 22's soon. Other wise some nice black ROH steely's on some Cooper Discoverers STT tyres would go down well? haha



Nnooo not chrome!

[demo9pro]

Nnooo not chrome!

Chrome is all cool and shiny and you can get out of the car and fix your hair by looking into it......Its the way of the future....

[Doggy]

If you are putting 22's on it, you may as well consider it a mini truck or worse.... a shopping trolley.
It may be a fast shopping trolley but a shopping trolley none the less

[demo9pro]

If you are putting 22's on it, you may as well consider it a mini truck or worse.... a shopping trolley.
It may be a fast shopping trolley but a shopping trolley none the less

22's for shows, city driving, long road trips etc...

15's or 17's on STT's for every other time.

2 Sets of wheels so the car is still practical.

[slip]

2 Sets of wheels so the car is still practical.

Agreed. A lot of performance car owners run 2 sets of wheels for flexibility. Road/track sets etc.

[Hungry]

but it is slowly turning into a more off road comp based car(roll bar,custom bar up front etc YEEEW Sethius! Post up ya comp truck once ya finished! me and a mate went in a comp back in septemper was sik! we got 7 out of 40 and was our first comp. haha had to just about rebuild jacks hilux after. fu*ked the front springs, smashed in the bull bar. lots of carnage and swearing back home in the shed fixing the girl bak up but we got it!

4x4 all the way!:D none of this lowering crap or jacking up ya fouby to be nothing than a poser! the only thing mini trucks are good for is for testing ya flex out on ya fourby :D getting my GU Patrol Ute soon YEW! got my 4" suspension lift, 6x 35" MTZ's, rock sliders and tube bar to go on straight away!......Best 4 grand i ever spent hahaha. then spend another 2 grand to chop the tray up hehehe!:D

simon piss that rubber off and get some 35" Baja Claws and put on there!

jacked up bling 4x4 = Poser!
minitruck = POSER!

[Rik]

Obviously a painter and decorator in a hurry.Friday after midday. Every tradie in his white van/ute is off on the race of their life to get home with enough time to sink 3 beers and a pie before the wife brings the kids home in their family wagon. No wonder they drive so fast.

[bigkevthumper]

YEEEW Sethius! Post up ya comp truck once ya finished! me and a mate went in a comp back in septemper was sik! we got 7 out of 40 and was our first comp. haha had to just about rebuild jacks hilux after. fu*ked the front springs, smashed in the bull bar. lots of carnage and swearing back home in the shed fixing the girl bak up but we got it!

4x4 all the way!:D none of this lowering crap or jacking up ya fouby to be nothing than a poser! the only thing mini trucks are good for is for testing ya flex out on ya fourby :D getting my GU Patrol Ute soon YEW! got my 4" suspension lift, 6x 35" MTZ's, rock sliders and tube bar to go on straight away!......Best 4 grand i ever spent hahaha. then spend another 2 grand to chop the tray up hehehe!:D

simon piss that rubber off and get some 35" Baja Claws and put on there!

jacked up bling 4x4 = Poser!
minitruck = POSER!

What comp was this?
Wouldnt have been the nissian trials?
Dont get baja claws, theres better tyres out there then them.
The reason for that is the tread patern is quiet bad if you have to reverse out of somthing like mud for instense. Got a friend that used them in comps and he reckons that the would be amoung the top three of worst tyres he has used.

[PINT of Stella, mate!]

Friday after midday. Every tradie in his white van/ute is off on the race of their life to get home with enough time to sink 3 beers and a pie before the wife brings the kids home in their family wagon. No wonder they drive so fast.

3's probably a bit conservative. And don't forget a trip to the strippers...

[Hungry]

What comp was this?
Wouldnt have been the nissian trials?


nar was "mud guts and glory" a comp over here in west aus.

[wiggum]

i have a mini now but would rather a 4wd so i can do shuttle runs in the bush with my mates

[demo9pro]

demo9 - new wheel option sounds nice. Imagine 10 years ago being able to smack a decent vortech setup on a Hilux and pull 300+kw out of it, with stock running gear (assumption). Hah.

Drive train isnt stock, most of its been replaced/reinforced, even tho I think it doesn't need it. Hilux drive trains are one of the strongest/toughest you can get.

[junior]

you wanna be pimp then this is how you would be rolling... I love bagged cars but hate minitrucks with 18's lowered onto the diff with primer marks and shit everywhere. gotta do it properly then its nice. I'm over big 4WD's after being in north califorina for over a month and seeing massive stupid rigs for nothing. don't mind a 4wd which is gonna go offroad and have abit of a dig. raised 4wd's are way more impractical than any bagged car, can't get in any car parks, rolling down the free way with 40inch muddies loud as, handle like shit and have the same expenses as a bagged car.

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[dcrofty]

Hilux drive trains are one of the strongest/toughest you can get.

The rest of them ain't bad either. Check out the top gear guys trying to break one.

http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=Lrk6vsb77xk
http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=0Uc4Ksz3nHM
http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=YfZDtC9kjVk

[Jordy]

Layin guts gets the sluts. Mini trucks all the way

[donthucktoflat]

Layin guts gets the sluts. Mini trucks all the way

JORDY, you win with that quote.

thread = over:p

[VW NUT]

Guys its all about cruisin' round and throwin' a few sparks while your cruisin' to the trails... My ute will be on its guts... Lucky my mate Big Al with have a 4WD for the shuttles :p

[Jordy]

hahaha now that I've got a chance.

I love minitrucks !

Currently got a 96 dual cab hilux which is bagged in the rear, currently off the road for a lexus quad cam v8 engine conversion and to bag the front then paint. its shaved all round etc

Also got a 91 single cab deo which has the tray all shaved up, notched chassis etc, waiting for Me to get off my ass and bag the rear of it. should be done in a few weeks. Rather than Do an engine conversion in this, I will be turbo charging the stock engine after a rebuild. should put out pretty good power

[wtp-addict]

hahaha jordy look at my post about 1 or 2 pages back you will love it

P.S did you ever get your RYD4LF plates back?

[wagon boy]

low is great, easier to get the bikes on and off the roof. and yeh it was crap for going through shopping centres but that's why I had two cars...
http://i160.photobucket.com/albums/t177/lowendtheory/28012007128.jpg

[thomas rolleston]

raised 4wd's are way more impractical than any bagged car, can't get in any car parks, rolling down the free way with 40inch muddies loud as, handle like shit and have the same expenses as a bagged car.


Not true... i have no trouble parking my 4x4. I often see lo-luxs havin trouble gettin over the speed bumps in the car parks, seems to me that they're the impracticle ones..


lets see your lo-lux do this

[E-thugin]

I had a rodeo. with cadillac taillights in it with no door handles, billet grill etc.
Until a bloke in an rx8 crashed into me & wrecked my car.

Now i have a 1965 ford.

I am currently saving money to do a 30s model ford replica.. Rat style.



The big raised 4wds are dangerous, especially the ones with huge bullbars on it. Because cars a designed to have crumple points in the chassis & body to absorb the impact to prevent injury.
But bull bars defeat the pourpous of the crumple points so the poor sod in a little sedan gets fucked over in a crash while the vehicle with a bullbar plows through it with only a few scrathes.

The 'minitrucks' go through a large amount of engineering to get roadworthy aproval, But some are dodgy.

[Hungry]

you bastard thomas i want my patrol!!!!

But bull bars defeat the pourpous of the crumple points so the poor sod in a little sedan gets fucked over in a crash while the vehicle with a bullbar plows through it with only a few scrathes.

hence the reason to have a 4x4 so you dont get fucked over;)

minitrucks are crap, cant have any fun in them and can still go pimping in a nice 4wd!

[E-thugin]

Its the fucking urban cowboys with bullbars that shit me. using a jacked up 4wd as a daily driver. why have 4wd if your not going to use it for its intended use?


the phrase 'pimping' sounds stupid. the majority of guys in australia who think they are 'pimping' are little skinny white boys, in a little fantasy world trying to imitaite the guys out of the 'cool' music clips or movies.

& when they see a group of girls they just drive past them yelling stupid shit out of the window 'show us your tits'. instead of actually acting like a decent human & talking to the girl in person. So theey miss out & go home by themselves & have a wank because they made a knob out of themselves yelling stupid stuff or just plain being a pussy & acting all scared if a girl actually talks to them.....



p.s im 6/10ths drunk


And the "cruising" scene is stupid aswell. I dont see any appeal in driving round & round doing laps of the city wasting fuel, then ocasionally stopping at a maccas carpark staring off the people on the otherside of the carpark, & bust a fully sick 1wheel skid as you leave.



I like cars, I like customs, but i dont go doing laps & go for a drive for the sake of it to attempt to get street cred or 'bitches' I drive a gay little 3 cylinder daihastu during the week & for doing my run about jobs & ocaisionally take the ford out on weekends or if im going to a show.

[wagon boy]

do you have any pics of the ford? I love old fords

[E-thugin]

no photos on the computor, i will take some in a few days.


I like the old fords i love em. saddest thing happened last week but! my mate has a 1959 coupe fairlane (a yank one) & the starter had been playing up recently ..

& it was having a little trouble starting last week, & the damn thing caught fire!! so the motor is rooted & the bonnet is all warped. so he hasto track down a new motor & a few panels now.. lucky it didnt burn to a crisp.

Its a shame seeing nice old cars roting away

[Alec McJo]

Its the fucking urban cowboys with bullbars that shit me. using a jacked up 4wd as a daily driver. why have 4wd if your not going to use it for its intended use?


the phrase 'pimping' sounds stupid. the majority of guys in australia who think they are 'pimping' are little skinny white boys, in a little fantasy world trying to imitaite the guys out of the 'cool' music clips or movies.

& when they see a group of girls they just drive past them yelling stupid shit out of the window 'show us your tits'. instead of actually acting like a decent human & talking to the girl in person. So theey miss out & go home by themselves & have a wank because they made a knob out of themselves yelling stupid stuff or just plain being a pussy & acting all scared if a girl actually talks to them.....



That, my friend, is the best post ever! :D

[---Matt---]

Its the fucking urban cowboys with bullbars that shit me. using a jacked up 4wd as a daily driver. why have 4wd if your not going to use it for its intended use?

I agree that people who spend loads of money doing extreme modifications to their 4x4's shouldn't be using them as daily drivers. If they can afford to spend $10000 or more modifying the car, they can definitely afford a shitbox to drive around in on weekdays. Some of those cars are just plain rediculous and blatently unroadworthy.

However, I own a 4x4 and can't afford to own any other car; hence it's my daily driver. I also use it offroad as much as possible. My car is modified as little as possible to do what I want to do on the weekends but I feel it is still very respectable around town. My car is shorter in length than a Commodore/Falcon wagon (see easy parking) and I get better fuel economy too (being diesel). I don't think that classifying any 4x4 driver with a bull bar an urban cowboy is really a fair call.

I think what I'm trying to say is, don't brand the majority of 4x4 owners as bad drivers just because a minority go too far. Sounds kinda familiar to the whole MTB/hikers/horse riders argument doesn't it?

Oh, and here's a pic from this weekend after driving from Melbourne to the Murray Sunset national park. The previous weekend I was at Mt Buller helping with trackwork and doing some driving there too.

http://forums.farkin.net/photo/data/500/IMGP7165.JPG

[E-thugin]

The bit about the'urban cowboy' thing i meant was Blokes who spend stupid amounts of money on poxy accessories' on a half ass 4wd & are too soft to take it off road & tow stuff wich are driving it to & from work in the city only & still insist on having a bullbar.

It dosnt bother me if ya' see a 4x4 that clearly gets 'used' as a 4x4 for things such as towing,camping,4x4 tacks, etc. & i understand some people cant afford a 2nd car aswell.

From what i see is
Bullbars were'nt intended to protect your car & demolish the other car in a traffic accident origionally, They were designed for 4x4 driving so incase you come 'unstuck' & hit a tree or something you dont end up splitting the radiator & stuff.. & for farmers So they can push things if they need to without damaging panels.


meh

[---Matt---]

Couldn't agree more! :)

[donthucktoflat]

The bit about the'urban cowboy' thing i meant was Blokes who spend stupid amounts of money on poxy accessories' on a half ass 4wd & are too soft to take it off road & tow stuff wich are driving it to & from work in the city only & still insist on having a bullbar.

It dosnt bother me if ya' see a 4x4 that clearly gets 'used' as a 4x4 for things such as towing,camping,4x4 tacks, etc. & i understand some people cant afford a 2nd car aswell.

From what i see is
Bullbars were'nt intended to protect your car & demolish the other car in a traffic accident origionally, They were designed for 4x4 driving so incase you come 'unstuck' & hit a tree or something you dont end up splitting the radiator & stuff.. & for farmers So they can push things if they need to without damaging panels.


meh

orrr.. bullbars were designed to protect you and your car should wildlife.. possibly a "bull" run out in front of the car?

anyway, what's wrong with daily driving a modified car? both of my cars are quite heavily modified (dahatsu rocky and mazda RX7) and i drive one of the other each and every day. i have spent well over 10k on the mazda and i can't afford a shit daily.. just my stupid 4wd (with no rego that im gonna pull off the road and do some major work on once the rotor is finished)

[rhysrhysbaby]

http://www.autonowaz.com/trucks/images/vehicles/2763A33117.JPG

[Doggy]

That 'effie' is laughable. Its just a wank fest.
E-Thugin...most 4wds go through the same engineering process to get them road legal as well, The suspension, axles, brakes, motor and so on all have to be inspected, body lifts, body mods all inspected so it is much the same as the wheel chocks with their bags and shite. There are the people in both groups who dont bother getting their vehicles engineered or get them done properly so dont just accuse 4wder's of it.
As for daily driving and practicality, I drive my lifted, locked, big wheeled and so on 4wd as a DD, I have only come across one or two car park that I couldnt fit in (most car parks are 2.3m high, my shorty is about 2.2 high so its sweet), It is however a different story when I have my roof rack on. It is also shorter then most other vehicles, has a tighter turning circle then most small cars has great fuel economy as a diesel and is a piece of piss to drive. I have spent around 10 grand on mods and stuffing around to make mine practical as a daily driver, tourer and hardcore 4wd and it does everything it is pointed at. Not the best pictures but as you can see, its capable/ practical while not being over the top
http://i171.photobucket.com/albums/u291/Dogs_bowl/DSCF0028.jpg
http://i171.photobucket.com/albums/u291/Dogs_bowl/DSCF0027.jpg

[PEELER]

lovin the flex in the second pic bro:D

[S!C!E!R!]

Whats better, Nissan Patrol cab or Toyota Landcruiser tray/troop carrier for 4X4?

[cameron_15]

definetely yhe raised up trucks, they are mad,

[jasnos]

i love the lowered mini trucks!
im already saving up for my first ute which will be a 96' hilux.
I love looking around at them, had this on as my desktop pic for a while, I just saw the same one in "PEELER" aviator!

Is that your ride mate??
VVERY NICE!

[Doggy]

Whats better, Nissan Patrol cab or Toyota Landcruiser tray/troop carrier for 4X4?


All depends on what sort of 4wding you want to do really. A Patrol with coil springs all round will shit all over a Cruiser ute or troopy with the basic mods done to either the patrol or toyotas. Coils flex better with alot less work involved then leaf springs the Cruisers,well they are toyotas......but I wont hold that against them:D. My next ute will be either a D22 navara or a 79 series cruiser me thinks, I dont know why but I just like the look of the cruiser utes over the patrol utes. It also comes down to price though, toyotas are majorly over priced so its another tick for the patrols

[Doggy]

lovin the flex in the second pic bro:D

Thats not flexed yet....thats just warming up:D Flexs better now I chopped the guards a bit

[S!C!E!R!]

Hey Doggy,
What year/model is your Patrol?

[foes.fly.rida]

Funniest Hummer related thing I've heard of was when Fergie was selling her Hummer...

You know what the proceeds were going to?


Global Green USA... :rolleyes:



ahaha love it.




I would love to have a raised 4wd, but also id love to have a road hilux with air bag suspension...but if i had to choose id go with the 4wd. havent heard great news about that air bag suspension. and you would have to get someone to install some air bags without the cops knowledge because there is a height minimum.

[Doggy]

Hey Doggy,
What year/model is your Patrol?

Mine is an 88 model Safari (Jap import) short wheel base diesel. In those photos it has a 5" spring lift, 35" tyres. front air locker, tightened rear LSD, non standard wheel arch flares (its actually bunnings garden edging, so strong I had the entire car sitting on its side on two of the flares and it didnt bend them...bent all the panels but thats a different story), PTO winch (came stock on the imports, saved me alot of money).
Ive now dropped it down to a 2 - 3" lift and 33" tyres as I no longer do as harder stuff as I use to so I made it more pleasant for daily driving, still has all the rest of the gear plus some more inside though

[Hungry]

All depends on what sort of 4wding you want to do really. A Patrol with coil springs all round will shit all over a Cruiser ute or troopy with the basic mods done to either the patrol or toyotas. Coils flex better with alot less work involved then leaf springs the Cruisers,well they are toyotas......but I wont hold that against them. My next ute will be either a D22 navara or a 79 series cruiser me thinks, I dont know why but I just like the look of the cruiser utes over the patrol utes. It also comes down to price though, toyotas are majorly over priced so its another tick for the patrols

PATROL! :D troopys are good for rolling down 5m drops that about it!

doggy i got a d22 and by looking at it your keen for the ruts so my opinion id get the crusier. the navaras good but you are very limited to what you can put on. 32" tyres are about the max you can put on and being IFS you cant get alot of lift out of it unless you willing to spend more dollars to get a solid axle put in there. one my mates is doing it to his shortly ill let you know how it goes if ya want.

[Doggy]

The navara would strictly be a tourer, beach runner and shuttle ute. Will be looking at the ST-R the engine chipped, canopy, roof rack and side awning, winch bar and winch, rear locker and maybe a 2" lift with some Cooper ST's on it. I have a side awning I made up for the shorty to swap over so thats no issue and the rest will get done. On the other hand, to make my next car a tax write off, it needs to have a 1 ton capacity to make it a commercial vehicle and Im not sure the navara has that where as the cruiser ute does, in which case the same mods will be done bar the engine chip and will get a front locker instead.
I have had my fun doing the more hardcore 4wding, got sick of the panel damage and repairs so the shorty, if I keep it will be chopped into a style side ute with roll cage and be my toy

[PEELER]

mmmmm flex

[VW NUT]

Hey Doggy,
What year/model is your Patrol?

U wouldnt have enough balls to drive a mans big rig off raod :eek:

[E-thugin]

orrr.. bullbars were designed to protect you and your car should wildlife.. possibly a "bull" run out in front of the car?

anyway, what's wrong with daily driving a modified car? both of my cars are quite heavily modified (dahatsu rocky and mazda RX7) and i drive one of the other each and every day. i have spent well over 10k on the mazda and i can't afford a shit daily.. just my stupid 4wd (with no rego that im gonna pull off the road and do some major work on once the rotor is finished)



Nothing is wrong with daily driving a modifyed car. I have owned custom cars & daily driven them myself. So i dont see the point you are getting at.
& i couldnt give a rats that you dont have a daily.

I just think its lame going for a fully sick cruise to pick up some slarts.



& on the stuff about bullbars go & reveiw my last post in this thread.

[Hungry]

one word doggy.......COMP TRUCK!:D well 2 but whatever

[Hungry]

mmmmm flex

man guts's hilux is farkin nice! that things mad!

[Giantrider]

I don't really know much at all about hotrods like that so I'm curious as to how much horsepower they actually put out?

Its not a hotrod more of a ratrod ;)

[E-thugin]

A ratrod is just made up from bits & pieces to make a frankenstien rod.
Hotrods are dressed up with lots of fresh chrome & expensive paint.


it all Depends what motor you put in em' some put in flatheads or straight 8 carby motors with big cams etc. a 460 puts out a fair but if power some put in modern efi v8s.


They are Quick in a straight line. but handel like crap most of the time, depending on the chassis.