whats the best 4x bike!??!

[jade.m]

heyy.

im looking at starting 4x very soon and i have been looking around for some good price 4x bikes

im mainly interested in second hand ones, but if the price is reasonable, brand new is an option

and if you no any threds on farkin that is selling a bike, tell me

please post you options for me!

thankyou

[Norco_VPS]

welcome to farkin
you might want to use the SEARCH button
and look around at bike shops
4x bikes are hard to find so it is much better to by a frame and build it up . . . like me

[fatass]

Norco 4-hun or 125, norco XXXX off the top of my head would be best, 125 being cheapest and XXXX being most expensive.

[NH_]

id take an stp over any norco for 4x besides maybe the XXXX but i dont see a point in a short travel 4x bike on many australian tracks

[connor]

GT Lopes. if you got the money
they are pimp
i think its like 1600 for frame and for forks??? not to sure
but once built up very nice bike

[deaks]

that Lopes bike is sweet. theres one in the Post Your Ride forum..

have a look

[smytht1]

http://forums.farkin.net/showthread.php?t=97755 have a look at that

[andytaylor]

the best 4x bike imo
is the yeti 4x

but for a good priced one
get a decent dj, with a chain guide and that'll be goodfor a while,
and upgrade over time.

[7point3]

have a look at the mongoose eric carter 4x bike (not sure if they are continued in 08) but i know two mates with them,1 with an 06 and the other 07, both they bikes look awesome and the 07 ride so smooth, the 06 is still waiting to be built.

[Crowie]

get a gt chucker 07 frame and build up from it light, strong and reliable

[S!C!E!R!]

Transistion Bottlerocket maybe???

[deaks]

EC 4x, Gt Lopes, Transition Bottle Rocket.

[luke-meh]

get a gt chucker 07 frame and build up from it light, strong and reliable
07 chucker r u joking

[wtp-addict]

No i would say a Nicolai bmxtb...

That bike is made from 4X lol

[Plow King]

There is no definative answer...

[S!C!E!R!]

There is no definative answer...

Ahhh yes very smart answer there Plow.....

Plow is right in saying that there is no definitive answer because the "best" 4X bike is partly defined by personal prefernce.....

[nick89_]

Transistion Bottlerocket maybe???

Nah the Transition Double would be better- more race orientated than slopestyle.

[Stack Shack]

Whats your Price range? Whats your riding style? Are you smooth or do you need the rear suspension? We need to know these things before we can give you a good response.

[Kawasaki 122]

I personally believe that the Lopes frame, STP 0 and the yeti frame would be the best. Probably not the best for a first bike but building up a slighter cheaper frame can be a buzz and could turn out to be quite a nice bike.

It's up to you which way you go - good or build 1 up.

[tupper]

the yeti 4x or transition double, the bottlerocket has i little to much travel for 4x

[barnesy]

First up if you are 'really' going to race this bike.. good on you. Too many guys get on this forum and talk it up but them & their bike never make a race. The tracks are getting more and more diverse now and we will see more slalom events appearing also.

If you want to save some money, hold back on the things that don't matter as much in 4X/Slalom. Basic brakes (Juicy3/Deore) no fancy seatposts/ seats (you don't sit down anyway).

Spend up on light tyres (no 2 ply) and rims. The weight that matters most is outer rim weight, if you weight your tyres and wheels up you will need a public announcement to tell people your leaving the gate! Nice wide bars and a good chain device and your away. As for frame, make sure it fits you. Some frames out there are short, some are long. Jump on a few and see what feels best. If you are 6'2" you are not going to want a short top tube.

I've attached my new baby, I've been out for a while and have only just started riding again, but I love it. 2.5"/3" or 4"(wouldn't use this setting much). It weighs 13kg which is a little weighty but I'm getting older and need the comfort!

http://i266.photobucket.com/albums/ii248/dirtz_traxn_trailz/MyArrow.jpg
Good luck with the bike.

[cam.w]

Even after reading that if i wanted to make a 4x bike that would help me make better decisions... Even though i knew a little of it.

And it was the first post that backed itself up... lol.

oh yeah, my 2c. If you want to start racing why not buy a dj frame/bike. But ask around and see if there are any frames/bikes that are better for 4x. I'm sure there will be.

[ScarfaceZero]

First up if you are 'really' going to race this bike.. good on you. Too many guys get on this forum and talk it up but them & their bike never make a race. The tracks are getting more and more diverse now and we will see more slalom events appearing also.

If you want to save some money, hold back on the things that don't matter as much in 4X/Slalom. Basic brakes (Juicy3/Deore) no fancy seatposts/ seats (you don't sit down anyway).

Spend up on light tyres (no 2 ply) and rims. The weight that matters most is outer rim weight, if you weight your tyres and wheels up you will need a public announcement to tell people your leaving the gate! Nice wide bars and a good chain device and your away. As for frame, make sure it fits you. Some frames out there are short, some are long. Jump on a few and see what feels best. If you are 6'2" you are not going to want a short top tube.

I've attached my new baby, I've been out for a while and have only just started riding again, but I love it. 2.5"/3" or 4"(wouldn't use this setting much). It weighs 13kg which is a little weighty but I'm getting older and need the comfort!

http://i266.photobucket.com/albums/ii248/dirtz_traxn_trailz/MyArrow.jpg
Good luck with the bike.

just saying i really like your bike, how much did she set you back?
cheers

[McPete]

You might think about one of the lighter all-mountain bikes too, the Giant AC comes to mind as a good one. Maybe a Norco Six if you can find one, but a hardtail would probably be just as good, and considerably less complicated.

[barnesy]

Thanks for the compliment on my new baby. Don't get on farkin that much so a bit late on the reply. Cost me a bit under $2,500. I built it up and haven't counted exact dollars but I wanted to be able to have fun on it as well as race 4X and feel a little safer in my older age. I'll proabably change the older XTR for a Durace/Ultegra soon and maybe some new XT levers.
Folks remember Last rounds of National MNTX series, Double header weekend, 12th/13th January 2008, Ebenezer & Kurrajong Heights !!! See you there

[swyer]

santacuz blur 4x..... do it

[floody]

As far as I'm concerned a hardtail will always be the most effective, versatile, and cost effective 4X bike.

Here's my '07 STP0 with choice 4X oriented mods (bars/stem/seat/seatpost/chainguide/chainring/tyres/tubes/pedals/11-23 cassette), total cost so far a bit over $2k, 12.9kg. Handling is damn near perfect, its stiff, light, stable yet changes direction well. Wheelbase is perhaps longish compared to say a GT Lopes 55, head angle a bit slacker, but the angles and low BB mean I can stuff it into turns at warp speed in a way you just can't do with a twitchier frame, not to mention it has phenomenal amounts of grip.
Proven race winner :D .

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v202/floody79/redbridgecloseup.jpg

If you aren't a WC pro, can't see a better value rig on the market to be honest, except perhaps a good deal on an '08 STP Pro.

[ScarfaceZero]

As far as I'm concerned a hardtail will always be the most effective, versatile, and cost effective 4X bike.

Here's my '07 STP0 with choice 4X oriented mods (bars/stem/seat/seatpost/chainguide/chainring/tyres/tubes/pedals/11-23 cassette), total cost so far a bit over $2k, 12.9kg. Handling is damn near perfect, its stiff, light, stable yet changes direction well. Wheelbase is perhaps longish compared to say a GT Lopes 55, head angle a bit slacker, but the angles and low BB mean I can stuff it into turns at warp speed in a way you just can't do with a twitchier frame, not to mention it has phenomenal amounts of grip.
Proven race winner :D .

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v202/floody79/redbridgecloseup.jpg

If you aren't a WC pro, can't see a better value rig on the market to be honest, except perhaps a good deal on an '08 STP Pro.

probly one of the nicest stp's ive seen for a while, people pay them out but stp's go hard!

[Roid Rage]

I am surprised nobody has said Morewood yet.

I did a quick search and found this.....:)

http://forums.farkin.net/showthread.php?p=1237505#post1237505

[condog]

i raced most of the national 4X on a scott yzo.
really light and good i wld rate it highly for a 4X rig
tomorow im getin a ec 4x because im wanting a change
for a very short travel dualie, i guess its not much weight sacrifice
and ur only losing a tad bit of time outa the gate compared to h/t
but if ur just starting get a hardtail.
connor

[tupper]

i raced most of the national 4X on a scott yzo.
really light and good i wld rate it highly for a 4X rig
tomorow im getin a ec 4x because im wanting a change
for a very short travel dualie, i guess its not much weight sacrifice
and ur only losing a tad bit of time outa the gate compared to h/t
but if ur just starting get a hardtail.
connor

What he said is good.

Start on a hardtail, If you like it, continue on a hardtail.
If not, try the Short travel dual.

[patto94]

hey i recon go for some feather light forks, but i am just curious, is it also good to race a heavier bike because it doesent lift you up as much when riding.

[Micl]

Hi Guys

Lots of choices out there and most people ride some form of Dirt Jump bike. I've done all state an national rounds so have ridden on most all of the tracks.
I started end of 2006 on a Norco Sasquach and then moved to a Percentage. The main improvement was the change in geometry to something that was designed to carve turns rather than dirt jump. The Norco washed out heaps in corners but the Percentage railed berms heaps better. Most of the 4X frames I have ridden do this ie lopes, Yeti etc and it really helps. I really liked the percentage as they are really light and do handle well (and they are reasonably cheap). I do however have a new ride for this season following Basnseys lead and building an Arrow dually. It is marginally slower out of the gate and doesn't accelerate as well as the Percentage (not much in it which is why I don't think the extra weight really matters that much) but it is much faster through the rest of the track as it is much more forgiving on jumps and rough sections and it rails berms even better. I'm 44 and reasonably fast although I can't jump for shit so the dually is great and I expect it to be noticably better on most tracks. The tracks are also getting rougher so I think the dually is a good option, and I can do some DH racing on it too without beating the crap out of my body on a hardtail.

Parts wise I agree with Barnsy go light tyres/tubes as this makes the most difference. I weigh 95 kg and I don't believe a weight saving of a kg makes any real difference unless it is in the wheels, different story if you are a 40kg 11 yr old. I have been racing single speed but I am going back to gears this season. Using a road cassette give closer ratios and better shifting. Breaks aren't too significant go with what you like but you don't have to spend heaps. I could easily change a few bits like forks etc and save some weight but we are talking about rider/bike weight being dropped by 1% and I could loose more than that by dropping my weight if I really cared that much, so I went with a stronger build rather than the lightest.

Main thing is put together what you can afford and go play, at races you can try other bikes and your bike will tend to evolve over time to something that really suits you. At the end of the day if you have the skills you will be competetive on most anything, I 'm sure Madill can beat most everyone on a kids trike.....