Help Spray Painting

[Kane.]

Hey, I need some help with my spray painting. I have stripped all the paint of my bike. Now it is just silver, just wondering what can i use to apply the paint on with i have used a spray can didn't work out well. I also want to get in to spray painting properly just wondering what gear i need..... i have found some stuff on ebay. for example this HVLP Spray Gun H-827 Air Tool Compressor paint Voylet. Wondering if this is the right way to go and is the price good..... for $40.00?? and other essentials i need for this.

Cheers Kane

[mongoosedh]

Don't know anything specifically but check out this thread (http://forums.farkin.net/showthread.php?t=62163), if you already havn't.

[Kane.]

Yeah i have looked and read that thread many of times. But it doesn't really say what he uses to apply the paint on so just wondering what they use. Also just other stuff.....

[Black Ice]

Equipment:

If you want a great finish, Spending money is worthwhile when painting...

Some cheaper model paint guns will spit paint, not always give a very even spread.

With the gun you will need all your lines, gun and then your air compressor.

Paint Side of Things:

Assuming you would be using a 2 Pac paint...

Do you know how to spray with a gun correctly?
Do you know the correct way to apply all 3 stages of the paint ( Base – Hardener – Clear, is that correct painters?)
Do you have a legal both for painting with certified ventalation etc? ( or will you be using a both?)

Just some thing’s to think about... Buying a gun for $40 buck’s wont give you a much better paint job then cans!

Cheers

[Kane.]

Equipment:

Paint Side of Things:

Assuming you would be using a 2 Pac paint...

Do you know how to spray with a gun correctly?
Do you know the correct way to apply all 3 stages of the paint ( Base – Hardener – Clear, is that correct painters?)
Do you have a legal both for painting with certified ventalation etc? ( or will you be using a both?)

Just some thing’s to think about... Buying a gun for $40 buck’s wont give you a much better paint job then cans!

Cheers

Well i am pretty new to it but eager to learn. I know the correct way to apply paint layer by layer. Dont know how to use a spray paint gun but i am sure it cant be to hard..... and with you last question painting with certified ventilation. Soo don't go for the gun you are saying....

[julianwisbey]

yeh go for it its not too hard my dads a spray painter/French polisher and he taught me how to spray in an hour or soo

hard thing is mixing paint and that

when you buy a gun make sure your compressor will be able to handle the ammount of air the gun uses because if your gun keeps draining the air and it doesnt have a chance to refill it will lose pressure and spit and not good stuff will happen

most gravity fed guns use like 15-20cfm so find a compressor that can do more than that

get a gravity fed gun (paint pot on top) they are hell easier to clean and are just more comfier to use


to start off just go to super cheap auto buy a gun a 50ish liter compressor 20m hose 3/8th diameter get some fittings some hose clamps and like 10l of thinners and like 5l or acetone that will get you started and wont cost more than 400 i assume :o

hope i helped

['Ross]

Don't waste a heap of money on buying new gear if its just for your bike. You can achieve almost perfect results with aerosol cans quite easily. Or if you are really desperate, get it professionally done.

[tupper]

Sorry to hijack your thread a bit, but I didnt think it was worth making another thread.

Can you paint things like Brake levers?
Does it in anyway effect braking? Or pulling the lever?

[Badams]

with the compressor you'll need 40 lt and above ive helped spray a car with a 40 litre its not too hard

[xc_machine]

Well i am pretty new to it but eager to learn. I know the correct way to apply paint layer by layer. Dont know how to use a spray paint gun but i am sure it cant be to hard..... and with you last question painting with certified ventilation. Soo don't go for the gun you are saying....

You've got it pretty wrong there mate. Spray painting is almost an art. It takes heaps and heaps of stuff-ups to get it right and get a good job done quickly.

You'd be surprised how bad your paint jobs are when you see a good one.

And that $40 gun can't possibly be any good. You can pay up to $350 for a gun handle and more than 50 for needles for different spray mists.

Good lc mate. go practice!

[U.D.O]

xc machine is right, spray painting is an art!
if you want it done well spend more money on the equiptment.

before you start on your bike get an old bike frame, strip it to bare metal as you have done with your mtb frame, and use it as a test subject, paint that until you you think you are ready for your mtb frame.
also make sure you do even coats because the last thing your want is drips.
be patient and don't rush into second coates before letting the paint to dry fully which is about 24 hours (check paint tin or can for more details).
after you've finished painting leave the frame to dry for a week or two. you might then need to put a clear coat over the frame, once you've clear coated ,leave that another week, then you can polish.

hope that helps :D
good luck!

[cowboy from hell]

I Have sprayed a car just recently and it was not hard, we got a great finish. Firstly don’t bother with 2 pac, harder to use and is highly toxic, just use acrylic. Acrylic is cheap and easy to use and most of the time u don’t have to apply a clear coat. We got a $90 spay gun (not gravity fed) with a 2.5 HP compressor, the main thing is to make sure the compressor you have suit’s the spray gun, the spray gun we had ran on 40 psi which I low. I don’t know how good u want to do this but if you want to do it properly you will need two types of primer, cant remember the names of these primers but one is for bear metal the you apply the next primer then paint. I haven’t gone into any detail here but its not as easy as slapping on a bit of paint. All up it would be round $700 and that’s doing it cheap, I would just take it to a ato spay place and get them to do it would be a lot cheaper, I could of just said that at the start instead of saying all this:)

[wombat]

I Have sprayed a car just recently and it was not hard, we got a great finish. Firstly don’t bother with 2 pac, harder to use and is highly toxic, just use acrylic. Acrylic is cheap and easy to use and most of the time u don’t have to apply a clear coat.
And you'll be lucky to get a few years of it staying in that state. Acrylic definately has its benfits with ease of use and cost, but it's nowhere near as tough as 2-pack.

Suppose it depends what you're after really.

[red death]

Don't waste a heap of money on buying new gear if its just for your bike. You can achieve almost perfect results with aerosol cans quite easily. Or if you are really desperate, get it professionally done.

I remember being at a chopper show far too many years ago when the best paint winner turned out to be a rattle can job. The pro's were embarrassed.

But it'd never have had the durability of a professional job. Expect plenty scratches etc on a MTB (what else anyway).

Having said that I've sprayed with cans quite a bit & if you don't plan on spraying regularly it's a viable option. The best spray cans I've found are those made up on request at the Auto One and some other similar shops. Specify the auto colour you want & they'll make it up in Acrylic & put it in a spray can (which goes at least 2x as far as the "normal" cans) for ~ $25 a can.

[cowboy from hell]

And you'll be lucky to get a few years of it staying in that state. Acrylic definately has its benfits with ease of use and cost, but it's nowhere near as tough as 2-pack.

Suppose it depends what you're after really.

Yer acrylic will start to go in bout 3 years but really most piant shops shounldnt sell you 2 pac unless you have done a corse and have all the appropriate gear. It was easry for use to do it in acrylic and if we still had the car repaint it when needed or even move to 2 pac, but for a first time go at painting i wouldnt go stright to 2 pac.

[j.m]

hey im an apprentice spray painter and if u have just sanderd back the clear you can usually just spray a couple of coats of paint over that and throw some crear on it and let it sit for 3 days
or if it is back to bare mettle need to buy some primer and then just spray the primer and just read the direction tell us how it goes

[No Licence]

Im a painter and im confused lol. Painting basics are good prep, clean working area and paitence. You dont need to spend huge dollars on gear an painting 2pac isnt as bad as these guys are making out, maybe if you were spraying 10 cars a week in your garage with no ventilation u might have some dramas. But saying that acrylic is easier to work with an for a mtb frame more than enough todo the job. Speak to your local bodyshop store ( automotive paint supply joint) they will be more than happy to lend a hand. Most panel shops wont paint a bike frame its not worth there time.

[tidlibitz]

a guy down the road from me said heill paint my frame with 2 pac for 80 bux without me sanding it down

[Grip]

a guy down the road from me said heill paint my frame with 2 pac for 80 bux without me sanding it down

Well a guy down the road from me said he'll suck the eyeballs out of a dead kitten's skull for $50... or for an extra $20 he'll knife people who post stuff that has nothing to do with the thread. I'm seriously considering employing him.

Now please READ what a thread is about before tapping away at the keyboard... please READ the rules where it says you are NOT allowed to post using sms/msn type abreviations (I've looked at all your other posts :rolleyes:)... and then please have a nice day.