any gymnists out there?

[jimmy_22]

heres a video of my first front flip attampts:
http://www.youtube.com/v/v6SorJMyW0k&rel=1
dose anyone have any tips on how i could land this?

[Schism]

Perhaps landing on your feet :p. But seriously...my mate used to do trampolining and can do all kinds of flips and whatnot. I will chat to him tonight to get some tips. But im gonna be quite pissed so lets see if I can remember them in the morning!

[Steve's_Sky1]

Nice try mate...do you have a trampoline or does a freind of yours have a tramp...because a tramp will kinda help you.....

but i watched your video looks like using your arms to get your momentom (sp?) foward which is good but your like not tucking up into a ball....if you do tuck into a ball it will make you spin more, so that should hopefully make you land on your feet and not your back side...

edit: maybe practise your front flips onto an old matress or something soft or you goona hurt yourself badly sometime...

hopefully this should help abit...

[Richo 18]

Don't jump so high before you actually do the sault, you jump really high and the hit the ground with all the momentum going into the ground, so that's where you go.

Go a little faster, a small jump(off one foot, like a skip) then PUNCH really high (off both feet), look up, body straight, before tucking really hard, and throwing your shoulders, and arms forward HARD. Keep tucked, until you feel you're near the end of the sault, and then don't straighten out to early. What's probably going to happen is you won't have the technique perfect for a little while, and your height will be lacking. So don't extend your legs just yet, but as you get better, you will keep the height, and be able to re-extend your legs and walk out of it. I'll get a video tomorrow.

Leitch will be able to help too.
By the way, I'm not talking shit here. Competed state and placed 3rd overall a few years ago.

[K_B]

http://youtube.com/watch?v=LZlaRnAyzK4&feature=related

[nickmann]

yep well that video pretty much explains it all

[roasted]

I was competitive from when I was nine till I was 14, kinda bummed I quit cause my fitness went down the drain. new years resolution is to get back to competitive level fitness over the next three years. I can still do all the trampoline stuff but my flat/floor stuff is way limited, and I doubt I could do any bar work anymore.

What the others said. Block, tighter tuck, and focus!

As I said, I haven't done this in five years so my technique is way iffy. Leitch will be able to help you more.

[jimmy_22]

thanks heaps for the help guys, ive always been into gymnastics and stuff like that but only recently actualy started strying stuff. i would love to get coaching but im not sure that i would be disciplined enough with the technique lol but yeh thanks for the help ill get back out there tomoro to try some more lol

[roasted]

You'd be best going to "tricking" (as they call it) classes which focus on more of this style rather than gym classes which are highly disciplined. Check the http://www.parkour.com.au/ tricking subforum for info on classes and tutorials on pretty much everything. If you are in sydney, I'm fairly sure the gym in five dock does great tricking nights.

I have enough reason to believe this is what you would be more into than super disciplined gym work. You will have started too late to ever really get to a high level within actual competitive gymnastics. The tricking classes are a great fun way to get your fitness and acrobatic skills up in a safe, pressure free environment, without the pressure.

[jimmy_22]

just an update,
i went to the beach today and laded my flip off one of those retaining walls, ill post the video later.

also i have found a gym in melbourne that offers gymnastics classes that are simply "educational" and not to do with entering competition wich is exactly what i wasd looking for, they are classes that dont just fcus on the one discipline either, they range from trampolining to floor routines, so ill be checking that out soon aswell.

[NoFearNick7]

I little irrelivant but I can land front flips off a trampoline!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6d0EV5BDBbE

I went through the whole "tricking/stunting" stage, but got over it as I couldn't be bothered to do all the training,etc. Basically jump up, not forward and flip at the peak of your jump.

[leitch]

Yep, Richo pretty much nailed it. You aren't even jumping up. If you watch your video, in the hop before your sault attempt you actually go higher than you do in your sault. What you want to do is keep low and fast in that pre-hop thingy so that when you hit the ground to do your sault, you're blocking your forwards movement and basically converting into the upwards movement to do the sault. The easiest way of doing that is to keep your feet in front of you (I'm only talking like an inch or two here..) and lean back in the "pre-jump" (really got to think of a better word for that), then when your feet hit the ground you want to rebound off the floor, and then follow what Richo said - arms up and over your head, tuck hard, kick out when you feel you have made the rotation. If I had a video camera I'd do a demo, but alas I don't :p

[Richo 18]

omGz leEcHH, dSlr's is teh shittzz. CAAnt's eben takez the ViBEohzz!

If you ask really nicely, I'll make a video tomorrow. Punch frontsault, AND a standing back if you want.

[leitch]

I'd give the video cred if you could land a standing front and a standing (i guess more of a one-step) sidesault, too ;)

[Richo 18]

God damnit leitch...demands, demands....

standing front = Not in my capabilites.
I can take a little skip and do a side sault?

I remember the seniors at the gym practicing shit one day, they were standing, and swinging one leg forwards, then as they swung it back, used the momentum to do a frontsault:eek:. And the same for a backie. But I was still amazed they were doing that shit off one leg.

And another one of them, "Nugget", always did double-butterfly's in his floor routines. Crazy awesome stuff. That was his favourite floor move.

[jimmy_22]

heres a video from the beach today, i over rotated in this one but i got it in the end. i suppose this isnt as good because i was jumping off something higer, but aww well.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aFWBVtRjxQ0

[leitch]

Still dodgy. See where your arms are when you take off? See how far forward you are bent? See how you just go straight down? All wrong. You need to start with your arms back over/behind your head and throw them up and over your head as you jump UP, standing upright.

[mike-]

Why don't you try backies first?

Gets you into the jumping/landing on feet from the ground and gives you confidence.

[Richo 18]

Yeah, you started looking at the ground.

Where you look = where you go.
Look up. Jump up, focus on UP.
And don't be so fucking scared of the ground....

[Richo 18]

Why don't you try backies first?

Gets you into the jumping/landing on feet from the ground and gives you confidence.

It's nothing the same.
Pretty much zero relation between the two skills. Especially on ground.