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PINT of Stella, mate!

14-01-2008, 12:33 PM

For $20,000 I'd have wanted at least some strippers...

Party call-out 'cost $20,000': Nixon

January 14, 2008 - 12:41PM

Victorian police are considering billing a teenager for thousands of dollars in damage, after his house party got out of control on the weekend.

Police were called to break up the crowd in Narre Warren in Melbourne's south east, on Saturday night, when the pack of up to 500 alcohol-fuelled youths turned wild.

Some pelted police vehicles with glass bottles, causing significant damage.

The boy's parents were interstate at the time.

Today, Chief Commissioner Christine Nixon said attending the party would have cost the police force about $20,000, if not more.

"I thought it was appalling to see the way those young people treated police officers," Ms Nixon said.

She said police were looking at billing the boy, to spare the community the cost.

"We're looking at it, we just want to understand exactly what happened, I don't want to act too soon but I'm very unhappy about it, watching police officers treated in that fashion," Ms Nixon said.

Extra police, the air wing and the dog squad were called to the party and the crowd eventually dispersed, though no arrests were made.

"To call a helicopter is a $2000 expense to start with," she said.

She said at least 30 officers had attended the scene.

Ms Nixon said she was disappointed the youth seemed to have shown no remorse.

"That young man didn't even seem like he was repentant," she said.

She urged parents not to let their 16-year-olds hold parties.

"I have a word for young people who are having those kind of parties - don't do it.

"It's not a good thing to do at all and it may cost your family or yourself a substantial amount of money."

Ms Nixon said police occasionally billed community members where they believed it was appropriate.

"In this case, our cars have been damaged, it will be difficult for us to determine exactly who damaged the cars, but that young man called the party, invited people there and has a responsibility," she said.

johnny

14-01-2008, 12:37 PM

How can the kid be held accountable for what other people do. He invited a few people, probably not 500. He didn't ask them to drink, he didn't ask them to throw bottles at cop cars. I think Ms. Nixon is just pissed that she was never invited to parties as a kid....

R33F

14-01-2008, 12:53 PM

"I'm taking some responsibility — but not for the damage because I didn't do it," he said.

Corey, who said he was 18, said he had told his neighbours he was having a party.

"We warned them and said we would be finished about midnight and they were, like, 'sweet, sweet, sweet' — but then they called the cops anyway."

Corey said he could remember inviting all 500 guests, but did not know how the party started.

"I can't remember. I was off my head."

He made the fatal mistake of telling the neighbours - not inviting them. ;)

shredder dj

14-01-2008, 12:54 PM

"Mum and Dad aren't gonna find out, they're interstate"

Haha :D on every news station across the country :p

Good luck hiding it from Mum and Dad.

do-a-flip

14-01-2008, 01:00 PM

the kids parents should be held responsible for being such a long distance away and leaving the kid home
they were asking for trouble:rolleyes:

johnny

14-01-2008, 01:04 PM

Ok, after watching that video, fark him, just shoot the prick.

So, parents are in China eh? I'll be back in a minute....

Breaka

14-01-2008, 01:16 PM

Originally, I hadn't watched the video and thought that the possibility of making him pay for the damages caused was a bit a bit harsh.

My mind has been changed since watching the video however. What a complete f8ckwit. He doesn't seem concerned or sorry whatsoever. If he was my nieghbour I'd be quick to jump over the fence and sit him on his arse. If I had kids and they had been terrorised by the whole ordeal the likelyhood of him (and his mates) receiving a beating would be ten fold.

---Matt---

14-01-2008, 01:16 PM

Ok, after watching that video, fark him, just shoot the prick.

So, parents are in China eh? I'll be back in a minute....

HEAR HEAR!!! What a wanker!

sawtell

14-01-2008, 01:34 PM

Doggy

14-01-2008, 02:25 PM

The f**kwit deserves to be fined for those sunnies if not anything else

scblack

14-01-2008, 02:27 PM

"Another neighbour, Tony Layton, said party-goers had urinated in his front garden. "

i had to LOL at that one.

that guy pretty much makes up the defintion of toy. look at those sunnies. he deserves to pay 20k just for appearing on camera wearing that crap.
Well, I would just step over there and piss in his garden......I would!

Bloody hell, who has not pissed in someones front hedge?:rolleyes:

PINT of Stella, mate!

14-01-2008, 02:35 PM

Bloody hell, who has not pissed in someones front hedge?:rolleyes:

Or letterbox, swimming pool, snooker table?

;)

Rik

14-01-2008, 02:49 PM

Coffee table, etc...

Breaka

14-01-2008, 03:08 PM

Hell, I pissed on the stage at my formal whilst ringing a taxi.

Good thing everyone else was too blind to notice.

{ScarFace}

14-01-2008, 03:20 PM

Well at least his parents will be more concerned about the sunnies then they would with the party.

Which by the way they probably have to foot the bill for

Oddjob

14-01-2008, 04:17 PM

I swear kids are getting dumber, and I blame the flouro.

I'm surprised the cops don't charge him with making a public nuisance.

Tristan23

14-01-2008, 04:25 PM

Is it that hard to grasp the fact he's still trashed, and on pingers while that interview was going on?

Sure, a tool, but i'd say more obnoxious due to the fact his mates are there, as well as being under the influence...

14-01-2008, 04:42 PM

He might well be the biggest wanker on earth, but he's right, you can't hold him responsible for OTHER people trashing stuff.

Flying-Squirrel

14-01-2008, 05:02 PM

Haha it's funny how he said that he remembers inviting everyone but I saw an interview on the news today and he said that there was another party down the road and it got canceled so they all just came there

Sam.

14-01-2008, 05:10 PM

http://video.msn.com/video.aspx?mkt=en-au&showPlaylist=true&playlist=videoByUuids:uuids:343b5c46-4a3d-4467-8267-27fadc7e9e03

nick89_

14-01-2008, 05:19 PM

Anyone went to the party or got his Myspace?

PS look at the 4x video underneath. lol

Aussie_Ryder

14-01-2008, 06:41 PM

R33F

14-01-2008, 06:44 PM

http://video.msn.com/video.aspx?mkt=en-au&brand=ninemsn&showPlaylist=true&playlist=videoByUuids:uuids:343b5c46-4a3d-4467-8267-27fadc7e9e03

Hung up on his parents and all !!

johnny

14-01-2008, 06:53 PM

http://video.msn.com/video.aspx?mkt=en-au&brand=ninemsn&showPlaylist=true&playlist=videoByUuids:uuids:343b5c46-4a3d-4467-8267-27fadc7e9e03

You are seeing this page because we have detected that you are trying to access Soapbox from a market where it is unavailable at this time.Yeah, an authoritarian country with a penchant for censorship. :mad:

Can some one tell me what happened here?

'Ross

14-01-2008, 06:59 PM

Alec McJo

14-01-2008, 07:12 PM

F**king "lol" at the derro. (and the Myspace sluts who like him cause he's "hot")

Air time erik

14-01-2008, 07:13 PM

Pasty little white boy thinks hes killin it with frog skins nipple ring and hairstyle circa. 1999:rolleyes: I seriously hope he cops the 20k fine just for being a little c*nt on today tonight:p

Johnny, pretty lame...He had a party whilst his parents were away, a bit of a ruckus occured, a cop car was mildly damaged. Ive seen a lot worse and I don't know why it got so much coverage, but this kid has been interviewed by everyone, and he thinks he is a national icon now.

proberly cause he is, Anyone here that says they havnt turned up to a random party, or pissed anywhere other then a toilet, is lying.He Cant be held resposible for others actions, and niether should his parents his 18.

johnny

14-01-2008, 07:16 PM

Yeah, I can get the story and stuff, I just can't get the link that R33F posted..., hanging up on his parents, what was that about?

I want to see him wear the fine because of his attitude toward the people who copped damage; "That's their bad luck". What a prick, your bad luck now ya farking fashion victim farkhead!

Air time erik

14-01-2008, 07:20 PM

looking at his myspace, he rides BMX- theres his first problem ( jks got nothing against BMX)

secondly he owns a mustang, wtf is with that spoilt rich kid!

Customjimmy

14-01-2008, 07:28 PM

I wonder what the TV networks paid the little bastard for the interview. Can't believe I'm even replying to this thread - 16 year old boy is arrogant stupid dick. Shock Horror!

R33F

14-01-2008, 07:30 PM

Yeah, I can get the story and stuff, I just can't get the link that R33F posted..., hanging up on his parents, what was that about?

At the start of the clip the news reporters let on that his parents had called the family home after seeing it on tv - and the little prat has reportedly hung up on them.

The report also said that they were calling their trip to QLD short to go back to Melbourne.

He is doing the same as in the first link johnny - prancing around with a look on his face you would just love to smack with a decent piece of hardwood.

One point raised by the reporter was that there was a few neighbours that wanted to front the parents and get an explanation of why he was left to his own devices.

- seriously - my ol' man would have slugged me fair in the 'pie hole' for even wearing that get up - let alone having 500 people in their home. Then to top it off - unsettling the neighbours in the home belonging to your parents ?! What the fuck is that about ?

I am not saying that I didn't attend some wild parties in my youth - nor am I saying that I still don't attend wild parties - I am saying that there has to be a point where this little arse wipe has to be accountable for his actions - and his parents shouldn't be bearing all the brunt of it from thier neighbours. I am almost certain in this day and age - had the kid have asked his parents - I am sure they would have let him have a party anyways.

Unless of course in the news tomorrow when his parents are interviewed, and the whole family are all wearing yellow sunnies - then - fuck 'em - take the lot out.

skivi

14-01-2008, 07:41 PM

"Another neighbour, Tony Layton, said party-goers had urinated in his front garden. "

i had to LOL at that one.

that guy pretty much makes up the defintion of toy. look at those sunnies. he deserves to pay 20k just for appearing on camera wearing that crap.
hahahaha

I swear kids are getting dumber, and I blame the flouro.
sigged!

He might well be the biggest wanker on earth, but he's right, you can't hold him responsible for OTHER people trashing stuff.
+1

Tristan23

14-01-2008, 07:42 PM

Aussie_Ryder

14-01-2008, 08:17 PM

He just keeps getting better and better. they interviewed him on A Current Affair, was great viewing.

willy_c

14-01-2008, 08:21 PM

That today tonight interview was the funniest dumb thing I have ever seen. The interviewer was trying her absolute hardest to get him to trip up and he fell for it hook, line, and sinker.

When asked if he would remove his sunglasses and apologise he replied something along the lines of:

" I'll apologise but im not taking off my sunnies."

It then went something like

"Why wont you take off your sunnies ?"

he replied

"Because they are famous. Because everyone likes them."

Ha.

nick89_

14-01-2008, 10:15 PM

dabomb_freerider

14-01-2008, 10:17 PM

does any have the link to today tonight or when the parents come home if they have thanks guys

PINT of Stella, mate!

14-01-2008, 11:31 PM

Little shit's made it onto the yahoo.co.uk homepage as well.

I hope I see him selling the Big Issue in a few weeks...

Stackerz

14-01-2008, 11:36 PM

I hope I see him selling the Big Issue in a few weeks...

OH MY GOD. Thats up there with the funniest thing I've ever heard. :D

14-01-2008, 11:55 PM

It got better-
"Ok, we have to wrap it up. I hope you take a long hard look at yourself in the mirror."

"Yeh I do that all the time, everyone looks at me. They love it."

ahahaha, I thought he actually had a pretty good sense of humour in the clips I saw. The media typically love to blow it up with the massive holier-than-thou attitude, and the cops make out that it was some massive riot cos a few bottles got broken and one of them managed to smash a windscreen... yet nobody got arrested and the worst they could come up with was a smashed windscreen, a few letterboxes and a couple of hedges getting pissed in - oh noes. According to the MTF forum, a few people here have managed that kind of tally on a single drunken rampage (not looking directly in RCOH's direction or anything). And they want to fine the kid $20k for the actions of 500 other people? F**k off Nixon, you fat useless sack of shit, you're just looking for a scapegoat because telling other people off and "making examples of them" makes you look like you're a better person by default.

That said, what kind of idiot invites 500 people he doesn't know into his own (or even dumber, his parents') house! Funny shit though.

Stackerz

15-01-2008, 12:11 AM

According to the MTF forum, a few people here have managed that kind of tally on a single drunken rampage (not looking directly in RCOH's direction or anything). .

Geez, glad I met him when he was sober. :p

johnny

15-01-2008, 12:39 AM

Black Ice

15-01-2008, 02:26 AM

I have no doubt that he shouldn't be held responsible for the damage other people did as I have no doubt that Nixon is still a virgin. I want him to pay for it because he seems like a complete wanker. Either way, one of the neighbours will crack him one or he'll become a celebrity and get smashed by a pissed homeboy or coked up Islander...

You saying home boys and islanders are the only ones that cause fights there days?

It’s funny because he think’s everyone loves him...

If they really cared about him, The other 499 people that were there could say “Hey let’s help this feller” and all contribute to the damage, $40 buck’s isn’t that much between 500 people!

I know if my house got damaged and the kid was being a smartarse like he was, I could only return the favor buy causing him some serious damage...

Sam.

15-01-2008, 09:09 AM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bc3dHgIrvIE

Straight of his myspace, not quite what you are after johhny?

Rik

15-01-2008, 09:46 AM

That was absolutely hilarious!
He may be a tosser, but at least he's carried his sense of humour throughout this. Love the beatup though, why should he be fined for the actions of others?

Oddjob

15-01-2008, 10:14 AM

Little shit's made it onto the yahoo.co.uk homepage as well.

I hope I see him selling the Big Issue in a few weeks...

+1

As parents what do you do with a shithead like that? I would cut my losses and just give him 24 hours to get his stuff out of the house.

PS I can't figure out who I despise the most. Thie kid or the Today Tonight host.

Binaural

15-01-2008, 10:18 AM

The parents obviously don't give a shit about him. Too much money, too little care, turns out a child like that.

I can almost guarrantee the relationship he has with his parents is about as deep as a puddle.

Don't be too confident about that hypothesis. A lot of the best recent research indicate a far larger amount of personality traits that most people credit are inborn. So, it's quite possible the only major contribution his parents made to this kid turning out the way he has is that their genes make an unfortunate combination. Not to pick on you too much, but people love to credit parents with far, far more power to shape personality and behaviour than they really have, and not enough for the child's intrinsic personality and the kid's peer group (which is the other dominant influence).

The kid's a complete tosser, but I'm with the mob majority of this thread - he can't be fined for the actions of others but I hope that somebody, someday cracks him one in the face for his attitude.

Customjimmy

15-01-2008, 10:37 AM

Don't be too confident about that hypothesis. A lot of the best recent research indicate a far larger amount of personality traits that most people credit are inborn. So, it's quite possible the only major contribution his parents made to this kid turning out the way he has is that their genes make an unfortunate combination. Not to pick on you too much, but people love to credit parents with far, far more power to shape personality and behaviour than they really have, and not enough for the child's intrinsic personality and the kid's peer group (which is the other dominant influence).

The kid's a complete tosser, but I'm with the mob majority of this thread - he can't be fined for the actions of others but I hope that somebody, someday cracks him one in the face for his attitude.

Well said. Most people probably know good parents with arsehole kids and/or vice versa. The last couple of decades have seen a real escalation in people seeking fame for fame's sake and he's just subscribing to that, like the idiot farking sheep that he is.

And sure his sunnies are famous, but not made famous by him. It's good to see a young guy unafraid to publicly show his admiration for Elton John.

Alec McJo

15-01-2008, 10:38 AM

It got better-
"Ok, we have to wrap it up. I hope you take a long hard look at yourself in the mirror."

"Yeh I do that all the time, everyone looks at me. They love it."

Ahahahahahaahahahahahaha. That reminds me so much of this guy I met on Friday night at a party.

He walks up to chicks going, "hey babe! Anyone ever told you how beautiful.. I am?"

Thinks he's the hottest thing on the planet but god its entertaining.

Breaka

15-01-2008, 11:33 AM

I saw the interview on TV last night. I completely cracked up when the kid was asked a question something along the lines of 'what would you tell kids who are thinking about having a party when their parents away?' and the kid responds with 'Get me to do it for them'.

slip

15-01-2008, 11:35 AM

Good on him for not taking his specs off. That silly trollop was trying to pull a full mum/teacher act, and he played it well.

We've done heaps more damage with 2-40 person parties, what's the big deal?

Such a ridiculous situation, no arrests, chopper called in, 20k attempted fine, mass coverage - with no major damage/injuries done.

donthucktoflat

15-01-2008, 01:07 PM

15-01-2008, 01:30 PM

I have no doubt that he shouldn't be held responsible for the damage other people did as I have no doubt that Nixon is still a virgin. I want him to pay for it because he seems like a complete wanker. Either way, one of the neighbours will crack him one or he'll become a celebrity and get smashed by a pissed homeboy or coked up Islander...

I think he just has a decent sense of humour actually. At least he was smart enough not to take too much shit from the ACA ho, who the hell is she to lecture anyone anyway.

I don't condone damaging other people's stuff, but this guy is copping a lot more flak than he deserves IMO. His parents and neighbours are about the only ones with any right to be berating him, according to him and everything else I've heard he complied with what the cops told him to do blah blah...

MasterOfReality

15-01-2008, 01:57 PM

I'd be pissed if I was a Vic taxpayer who might have to fork out to pay for the aftermath of that dickhead's party.

Rik

15-01-2008, 01:58 PM

What aftermath? Just how much of what got damaged and what were the other expenses involved?

MasterOfReality

15-01-2008, 02:04 PM

What aftermath? Just how much of what got damaged and what were the other expenses involved?

20k bill wasn't it?

slip

15-01-2008, 02:04 PM

The police over/under reaction? Where is the 20k bill from? What makes it up?

Air squad - what the hell were they going to do? The police "retreated" - code for they left when they couldn't pin the bottle throwing on anyone and no-one was doing anything bad while the cops were there.

How can a 0 arrest incident = $20k in a suburban street that still looks fine? Why haven't they made idle threats to pin the bill for catching murderers, rapists, dealing with violent groups etc on people in the past? How much did that girl who was "missing" up north have to pay back to the coppers? I could go on for days.

Cops + media, together. Always the most rational, transparent, and truthful combination......

MasterOfReality

15-01-2008, 02:09 PM

The police over/under reaction? Where is the 20k bill from? What makes it up?

Air squad - what the hell were they going to do? The police "retreated" - code for they left when they couldn't pin the bottle throwing on anyone and no-one was doing anything bad while the cops were there.

How can a 0 arrest incident = $20k in a suburban street that still looks fine?

Cops + media, together. Always the most rational, transparent, and truthful combination.

Running helicopters don't come cheap, there was damage to police cars, and wasn't the dog squad called out? Other than the obvious financial costs, what about police that were probably brought in from other districts and taken off calls?

What else do you expect to happen when there is several hundred pissed idiots together in one place?

Have a party, thats all fine and good. What gets me is the fuckwits attitude towards it.

donthucktoflat

15-01-2008, 02:10 PM

slip. you are a genius.

also.. 20k? that is a drop in the OCEAN compared to the money you are already paying. something like $0.000000000000000000000001 extra pper person

PINT of Stella, mate!

15-01-2008, 02:18 PM

The Victorian Police don't seem to handle large crowds too well. A couple of kids in Flemington throw stones and it's a race riot. A NYE beach party down on the peninsula gets out of hand and the cops call in the riot squad. An annoying scrotes suburban house party ends up with people pissing in gardens and breaking bottles so they call in Blue Thunder. For fuck's sake how the hell would Christine Nixon and her lackies cope in Paris, London or even Sydney for that matter.

Still, the boy is an annoying twat and deserves a sound thrashing. The cops aren't to chuffed with him either as they've been shown up yet again. I wonder how he'll get on when he gets his 'P's?

15-01-2008, 02:29 PM

Running helicopters don't come cheap, there was damage to police cars, and wasn't the dog squad called out? Other than the obvious financial costs, what about police that were probably brought in from other districts and taken off calls?

What else do you expect to happen when there is several hundred pissed idiots together in one place?

Have a party, thats all fine and good. What gets me is the fuckwits attitude towards it.

The extent of the "damage to police cars" that they've actually been able to show was a cracked windscreen. Hardly a big deal. Maybe some paint got scratched or something too, oh noes.

What are they gonna do with a chopper? That was just a retarded call on their part. Dog squad? They didn't even manage to arrest anyone out of 500 people for being drunk and disorderly, let alone doing anything violent enough to warrant releasing the hounds. What about the other cops they brought in? They were most likely already on duty and thus already being paid for.

20k divided by 4 million victorian residents equals a whopping total of 5 cents of my tax money going towards whatever BS they were probably already going to pay for but are now trying to bill this kid for... and so far I've gotten more than 5 cents worth of entertainment out of it.

MasterOfReality

15-01-2008, 02:33 PM

The extent of the "damage to police cars" that they've actually been able to show was a cracked windscreen. Hardly a big deal. Maybe some paint got scratched or something too, oh noes.

What are they gonna do with a chopper? That was just a retarded call on their part. Dog squad? They didn't even manage to arrest anyone out of 500 people for being drunk and disorderly, let alone doing anything violent enough to warrant releasing the hounds. What about the other cops they brought in? They were most likely already on duty and thus already being paid for.

20k divided by 4 million victorian residents equals a whopping total of 5 cents of my tax money going towards whatever BS they were probably already going to pay for but are now trying to bill this kid for... and so far I've gotten more than 5 cents worth of entertainment out of it.

They are damned if they do, damned if they don't.

Its the whole principle of the situation, his grinning ass end of a dog face and his tosser mates that got my back up.

Fuck, if I were his parents and were lumped with the bill, I'd be garnishing his future income to pay for it.

Binaural

15-01-2008, 02:37 PM

Fuck, if I were his parents and were lumped with the bill, I'd be garnishing his future income to pay for it.

Such a shame it's illegal to sell your children into slavery these days. Damn hippies and their civil liberties!

Oddjob

15-01-2008, 02:47 PM

Such a shame it's illegal to sell your children into slavery these days. Damn hippies and their civil liberties!

You're way too kind Binaural. I'd be trying to pass him off as a horse at the knackery/glue factory.

MasterOfReality

15-01-2008, 02:48 PM

Such a shame it's illegal to sell your children into slavery these days. Damn hippies and their civil liberties!

Thats got nothing to do with it :p

He clearly is old enough to know what he is doing, you can just tell that by the interviews. Smartass and cunning. If he is old enough to know the gravity of the situation, he is old enough to foot the bill. And if I were the parents of this dropkick, thats exactly what I would be making sure what happens.

Rik

15-01-2008, 02:48 PM

Pfft, Sydney cops aren't that great either. I've been in the middle of the riot squad's march outs twice now (I bet third time will be this weekend too) and all that can be said about them is "you can't stop the music, no copper can stop the music" :D

http://www.inthemix.com.au/news/aust/35923/Promoter_offers_16yearold_party_boy_a_job

he is old enough to foot the billAgain, for what, exactly?

johnny

15-01-2008, 02:53 PM

Its the whole principle of the situation, his grinning ass end of a dog face and his tosser mates that got my back up.
Yeah, that's my only gripe; he shits me. Fark it, make it $40k I say!!

MasterOfReality

15-01-2008, 02:55 PM

Again, for what, exactly?

Fark, what do you reckon?

If he wasn't such a smartass about it maybe people would have just shrugged it off.

johnny

15-01-2008, 03:06 PM

Actually, I just was able to watch the link that [$@M] posted and I'm going to flip flop. The first interview made him look like a twat but that one wasn't so bad. I thought that was pretty funny and he didn't seem too bad after all, I think he handled that idiot quite well! I mean who was she kidding? Trying to take the mature adult line with a sixteen year old who has just became famous, what a farking moron.

I love jumping to judgement and then changing with the wind. :)

clockworked

15-01-2008, 03:07 PM

Running helicopters don't come cheap, there was damage to police cars, and wasn't the dog squad called out? Other than the obvious financial costs, what about police that were probably brought in from other districts and taken off calls?

the police chief quoted a $2000 bill for calling out the helicopter, the dog squad patrol parties anyway, and a cracked windscreen $1000 maybe? - call windscreens obrien! out of 20 000, where are the other 17000 worth of expenses?

The extent of the "damage to police cars" that they've actually been able to show was a cracked windscreen. Hardly a big deal. Maybe some paint got scratched or something too, oh noes

20k divided by 4 million victorian residents equals a whopping total of 5 cents of my tax money going towards whatever BS they were probably already going to pay for but are now trying to bill this kid for... and so far I've gotten more than 5 cents worth of entertainment out of it.

damn straight

I wouldnt be mates with him, but his interview was funny.

he is a total spanner, but that doesn't make everything his fault.

ACA are the biggest f***wits in this whole affair.

PINT of Stella, mate!

15-01-2008, 03:07 PM

Again, for what, exactly?

Carl Williams is in Jail, Tony Mokbel is in custody in Greece, The Morans are all dead and Mick Gatto's cleaned up his act (allegedly)

How else are the Victorian Police Force going to make ends meet?

Binaural

15-01-2008, 03:11 PM

Carl Williams is in Jail, Tony Mokbel is in custody in Greece, The Morans are all dead and Mick Gatto's cleaned up his act (allegedly)

How else are the Victorian Police Force going to make ends meet?

Couldn't they just pull some funds out of Christine Nixon's copious arse, along with their 20k figure?

MasterOfReality

15-01-2008, 03:21 PM

the police chief quoted a $2000 bill for calling out the helicopter, the dog squad patrol parties anyway, and a cracked windscreen $1000 maybe? - call windscreens obrien! out of 20 000, where are the other 17000 worth of expenses?

Maybe in all the bureaucratic overheads that governments are famous for.

I think it would also include the man hours of everyone involved, to point out to this drop kick of society what his moronic efforts might cost the taxpayer.

scblack

15-01-2008, 03:23 PM

Let's not slag the Police too much.

IN HINDSIGHT there was very little damage done.

But think about it - 500 drunk youths in a street - they have to take appropriate action to safeguard people around. How many people would be hanging around with hundreds of drunks charging at them, throwing bottles etc? The Police had to respond. If they had really been rampaging and destroying stuff I'm sure the same people slagging them would be saying "Where were the police to protect us?".

Place the blame for this being such a big issue on ACA and other gutter "journalists".:cool:

Drop_Bear

15-01-2008, 03:30 PM

What exactly will charging him 20k do ? he wont be able or willing to pay it. I was talking to a copper mate of mine last night and we were discussing a "pay for police" system where you get arrested and then charged for services (GST included of course). Morale within the police force is so low at the moment and Nixon has a major major part in that. Don't be too hard on the cops. Narre Warren is a pretty tough part of Melbourne. It was 500 out of control adult sized people with kid sized intellects running amok. I heard that there was no room at all inside the house to move and once the yard fills up where else are you going to go ? Drunk teenagers are bound to cause trouble and as if a bogan who is getting famous for something he thinks is cool is not going to brag about it ! I think the ACA reporter was just scared that she had met her match intellectually and knew her job was at risk of being taken over by a 16 event organiser from Narre Warren!

daever

15-01-2008, 04:37 PM

adding up all the man hours, fuel expenses and damages and rounding the figure upto 20k is a tad sensationalist. We would have to pay for some of that crap (like man hours) on any normal day because theyre on duty already. Just be glad they're actually doing some noteworthy policing (even thought they retreated. ha ha...) instead of sitting on the side of the road fining you for going 5k over - Having $20,000 worth of traffic vultures off their beat could arguably work out cheaper for the community.

And seriously. No charges? Clearly they're trying to justify their over deployment of resources by pinning it on a 16yr old turd gobbler who wears freddy mercury specs. They wanted to make an example out of him, but hes calling their bluff and making an example out of them.

just think how grand it would be if they dropped their donuts and acted with this much speed and conviction when one of our bikes are stolen :P. I'd like to see that! Police have a precarious job which allows them to pick and choose (to some degree) what their job will entail. We all know they don't like hearing about theft and traffic offenses they can't fine, because these tasks are mostly time consuming, boring and good old fasioned hard work! So they tend to gravitate towards stuff which is open and shut, like telling people to move along, breaking up parties and stuff like that.

Sooo, basically I don't hold them in high regard, no...

Aussie_Ryder

15-01-2008, 05:04 PM

I'd be pissed if I was a Vic taxpayer who might have to fork out to pay for the aftermath of that dickhead's party.

I'm a Vic taxpayer and i don't mind. It shits me more paying for junkie's commision flat's and indiginous people sitting around doing sweet F-all all day. If the police had of handled it like they should of, it would not have been a 20k bill. As previously stated why did they need a chopper? spastic cops should go back to eating donuts.
Like he said in an interview, all his mates were in the house, the police came up and locked the door and told them to stay inside. All the kids outside came from another party. The last time I checked i was not resposible for people outside my house.

Fark, what do you reckon?

If he wasn't such a smartass about it maybe people would have just shrugged it off.

What, so he should get a 20k fine for being a smart arse?

you sir are an idiot.

Corey for PM

Vicious_Fishes

15-01-2008, 05:11 PM

Corey for PM

anybody else thinking the same thing i am here ?

you sir could start one of the biggest, most smartassed shut-down epidemics of today tonight/a current affair ever conceived, bigger even than the chaser...:D

dcrofty

15-01-2008, 05:13 PM

If the police had of handled it like they should of, it would not have been a 20k bill.

You of course have a practical solution that would have worked in the situation oh wise one?

And back on subject, 'tis a fine line between Aussie Larrakin and cockhead and this dude is balanced right smack on that line.

Alec McJo

15-01-2008, 05:21 PM

I'm a Vic taxpayer and i don't mind. It shits me more paying for junkie's commision flat's and indiginous people sitting around doing sweet F-all all day.

Ha. You think you've got paying for indigenous citizens bad? Try living in Cairns. This fulla that just started at my work came from Melbourne, had no problem with them at all. Moved to Cairns and hated them in a week. It sucks! And whats worse is I could get in all sorts of trouble for saying something this simple, and meanwhile they say and do what they want but never get called racist. Some of the things they say to us is pretty astonishing, I'm talking 10 year olds spitting out language that no one of any age should be saying.

Anyways, sorry about that. Completely Off Topic :o

But On Topic, man are the news and Currant Affairs people doing a good job of sucking people into this crap or what! So many people are believing that it's all this kids fault, and that he should be fined for it. Funny stuff.

dcrofty

15-01-2008, 05:26 PM

And whats worse is I could get in all sorts of trouble for saying something this simple, and meanwhile they say and do what they want but never get called racist.

Alec, its fine to say what some people do. Just don't say it in a way that suggests that that is how every single person of that race behaves as its never the case.

Anyway, relating to the link that Rik posted, I hope that that that soulless money grubbing promoter hires the kid, and he organises a party where another 500 drunk idiots turn up and wreck it. Would serve him right.

dhmtbr006

15-01-2008, 05:29 PM

err cops came to my 18th wheres my media spotlight.

seriously how in the hell is this news worthy??? this has gotta be the lamest thing since paris hilton getting locked away.

Aussie_Ryder

15-01-2008, 05:56 PM

You of course have a practical solution that would have worked in the situation oh wise one?.

I do have a practical cheap solution. Just shoot one of them as an example and then just say you thought he had a gun. Like the last 5 people that have been shot by the cops.
"woooops I thought he had a gun, so i shot him 5 times. Turns out he was holding a hammer."
Go back to Donut King pig.

NCR600

15-01-2008, 06:27 PM

hahaha that is brilliant. Like the police can hold him resposible, if someone had of killed someone at that party it wouldnt of been his fault. I honestly don't think he has done anything wrong, one party ended so they rocked up to his. I do agree he is acting the way he is just to make a name for himself as a tough c***

Alot of you would of had/attended out of hand parties.

I say good on him.

and for those people playing at home

http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendid=205652605

He just keeps getting better and better. they interviewed him on A Current Affair, was great viewing.

I'm a Vic taxpayer and i don't mind. It shits me more paying for junkie's commision flat's and indiginous people sitting around doing sweet F-all all day. If the police had of handled it like they should of, it would not have been a 20k bill. As previously stated why did they need a chopper? spastic cops should go back to eating donuts.
Like he said in an interview, all his mates were in the house, the police came up and locked the door and told them to stay inside. All the kids outside came from another party. The last time I checked i was not resposible for people outside my house.

What, so he should get a 20k fine for being a smart arse?

you sir are an idiot.

Corey for PM

I do have a practical cheap solution. Just shoot one of them as an example and then just say you thought he had a gun. Like the last 5 people that have been shot by the cops.
"woooops I thought he had a gun, so i shot him 5 times. Turns out he was holding a hammer."
Go back to Donut King pig.

http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e368/NCR600/imbeciles-morons-idiots-chart.jpg
Where exactly do you fit?

sawtell

15-01-2008, 06:31 PM

i hate how they keep brining up the pissing in the garden.. my mums loves my mates pissing on her lemon tree so do the next door neighbours, produces the most lucious lemons in town!

Aussie_Ryder

15-01-2008, 06:44 PM

http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e368/NCR600/imbeciles-morons-idiots-chart.jpg
Where exactly do you fit?

http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o311/Rail_Biter/reatard.jpg

Where exactly do you fit?

Sinder

15-01-2008, 08:03 PM

I do have a practical cheap solution. Just shoot one of them as an example and then just say you thought he had a gun. Like the last 5 people that have been shot by the cops.
"woooops I thought he had a gun, so i shot him 5 times. Turns out he was holding a hammer."
Go back to Donut King pig.

Now that's a bit immature...

Whether this guy deserves to pay or not, this prick has portrayed himself as a modern day f**kwit. Like mentioned before, once he gets his "P" plates his car will have the biggest f**koff target on it, the cops will have a field day... every day

NCR600

15-01-2008, 08:08 PM

http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o311/Rail_Biter/reatard.jpg

Where exactly do you fit?

Fixed it for you so we can see what you were attempting to post.

Vicious_Fishes

15-01-2008, 08:11 PM

isn't it funny how current affair didn't broadcast the interview live... i'd like to see the parts that they cut out ;)

"why don't you go and take a good hard look at yourself"

"i have, everyone has - they love it"

gold. :D

Vicious_Fishes

15-01-2008, 08:17 PM

http://coreydelaney.com/

NoFearNick7

15-01-2008, 08:37 PM

"She urged parents not to let their 16-year-olds hold parties."

Like thats going to farkin happen.

|-Mark-|

15-01-2008, 08:40 PM

haha thats wat made me laugh the most too!

"Another neighbour, Tony Layton, said party-goers had urinated in his front garden. "

i had to LOL at that one.

that guy pretty much makes up the defintion of toy. look at those sunnies. he deserves to pay 20k just for appearing on camera wearing that crap.

{ScarFace}

15-01-2008, 08:51 PM

I feel sorry for the parents but that kid needs some DOT fluid in the eyes.

Regan of Gong

15-01-2008, 09:38 PM

Saw that thing on ACA as well "TAKE THE GLASSES OFF RIGHT NOW!". Made me LOL.

sxereturn

15-01-2008, 09:48 PM

I think the kid is a farking champion. Stupid move, but there's no way he can be held accountable for the actions of OTHER people. His calm, too-cool-for-school attitude on air is brilliant :)

NCR600

15-01-2008, 09:55 PM

I think the kid is a farking champion. Stupid move, but there's no way he can be held accountable for the actions of OTHER people. His calm, too-cool-for-school attitude on air is brilliant :)

Well, I suppose your neighbour can't be held accountable for his dogs eating your chooks then!

If one of my neighbours party guests decided to trash my car or anything else of mine, then they, or their parents would be either paying for the damage if the perpetrator wouldn't own up.

And by paying for the damage I mean in cash, or a campaign of harrasment until they either coughed up the cash or I'd had an eqivalent amount of fun.

Yeah, that kid is a real champion. Unless he lives next door to you.

'Ross

15-01-2008, 10:12 PM

DSont give froggoooo boy too much credit, he shat himself every time aca slut asked him a question.

however good on him cos he did stick to his guns and show the hore who is boss......what was her game plan anyway? overpower him with her supremem intelect and shit? He did own her but not severely. Still even if he doesnt cop 20lk fine ill still get fashion police onto him cos he looks like a complete farkduck seriously.

Also anyone can get 500+ to a party, but would you??? Of course not, this guy reaks of arrogant poo who not care for anyone, check me out white boy with nipple wring give up toserrrr.

15-01-2008, 10:16 PM

'Ross

15-01-2008, 10:23 PM

Mate please take care with your language - if I see anyone referring to any ACA hosts as anything as nice as that again, I'll be temp banning them. You know they deserve so much worse, please abide by the forum rules and bag the living shit out of them.

Just found out in orhter thread you is mod but everyone else is not.... wield the vanning stickk.

Naomi robson-Ugly old slut, not even milf, man chin, square breasts, no prersonlnality just plain boring, mae me conmetmplate homeosexualtity.

Anna coren-Attractive so can stand watching.....but the segfwayyys omgxzzz i almost thought she writes em herfeself they are soo bad. aloso i seen her wear the SAME yes SAME top like tiwce a week. you on tv bitch! get some new clothers it some blue see through crap even my grandma be embarresed to wear shame upon you anna coren itch.

aca whore0-aca whore has some bigga tittus, she show s em off quite wheel. but she lsets some little 165 year old narreeeeee cunt with gay glassses take the pis out of her! what a joke! she had naothing. i could see herbreast cup sixze reducing with every question. take off your cladsse?? take off your top dirty whore, and learn to be a proper journao you aca pig.

happy ssssss? current afair peoples are mostly absolute trash especially when bleach boy rips em with white nipple rign, id rather watch fururama anywayssss

Richo 18

15-01-2008, 10:26 PM

Yay for alchohol.
Funny it's in THIS THREAD too aye?

15-01-2008, 10:26 PM

hahahaha... ok seriously tho, ease off the booze and leave the homophobic terms out of it :)

Norco_VPS

15-01-2008, 10:47 PM

PINT of Stella, mate!

15-01-2008, 10:51 PM

hahahaha... ok seriously tho, ease off the booze and leave the homophobic terms out of it :)

TBH I didn't see anything other than a reference to turning to homosexuality as an alternative to rooting Naomi Robson. I'm sure many people both Gay and Straight would likewise feel similarly. Oh yeah, and the Gay glasses. Well they are the sort normally modelled by Sir Elton so not too far off the mark there....

There was an absolute shiteload of misogyny in there though, but that's alright because we all know women aren't real people...

;)Please don't flame me ladies, I'm on your side here

'Ross

15-01-2008, 10:54 PM

Unless he was forcing partygoer's to drink and get pissed and then go on drunk rampages then he is not at fault
but if he did than shoot the ill-mannered motherf***er

***BREAKING NEWS THE LITTLE SMART ASS HAS RUN AWAY***

Link me!!! And why would he try to escape the hype now? He was just making a name for himself now, albeit as a poorly dressed egotistical personality and humour lacking little S O B.

MasterOfReality

16-01-2008, 08:59 AM

I'm a Vic taxpayer and i don't mind. It shits me more paying for junkie's commision flat's and indiginous people sitting around doing sweet F-all all day. If the police had of handled it like they should of, it would not have been a 20k bill. As previously stated why did they need a chopper? spastic cops should go back to eating donuts.
Like he said in an interview, all his mates were in the house, the police came up and locked the door and told them to stay inside. All the kids outside came from another party. The last time I checked i was not resposible for people outside my house.

What, so he should get a 20k fine for being a smart arse?

you sir are an idiot.

Corey for PM

Have you been living under a rock or something?

Open house invitation on MySpace = lots of pissed idiots turning up = responsibility for the whole mess.

What do you reckon the police are going to do with 500 pissed teens in the street? Things can get ugly very quickly in a situation like that.

And by the way, its not Sir, its Dr to you.

Vicious_Fishes

16-01-2008, 10:10 AM

Have you been living under a rock or something?

Open house invitation on MySpace = lots of pissed idiots turning up = responsibility for the whole mess.

What do you reckon the police are going to do with 500 pissed teens in the street? Things can get ugly very quickly in a situation like that.

And by the way, its not Sir, its Dr to you.

yeah he would have known that there was a realistic possibility that people of *that* type would show up if it was open invite. having said that, seriously who hasn't had an open invite party before ? if it's good enough you don't get any problems. i invited 40, got 100 or so, it was great.

what do you have a phd in, sociology ? :p

MasterOfReality

16-01-2008, 10:15 AM

yeah he would have known that there was a realistic possibility that people of *that* type would show up if it was open invite. having said that, seriously who hasn't had an open invite party before ? if it's good enough you don't get any problems. i invited 40, got 100 or so, it was great.

what do you have a phd in, sociology ? :p

Nah not sociology, mining engineering.

Although I do get to observe plenty of idiots in this industry too :p

Oddjob

16-01-2008, 11:03 AM

http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o311/Rail_Biter/reatard.jpg

Where exactly do you fit?

I dare you to say that to NCRs face...

Now the jackass has been arrested and is looking for somewhere new to live. Good work moron, your life is now over and you can look forward to a life of sellling The Big Issue.
http://www.smh.com.au/news/national/party-boy-corey-arrested/2008/01/16/1200419849567.html

Mr Peabody

16-01-2008, 12:07 PM

Just read all eleven pages of this thread and laughed myself silly. Must agree it is a criminal offence to be in public in those glasses

johnny

16-01-2008, 12:24 PM

http://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o311/Rail_Biter/reatard.jpg

Where exactly do you fit?You are an idiot and you should shut up now.

StInKy LoVeR

16-01-2008, 12:59 PM

He is the definition of a tool. The worst thing is that he doesnt even feel sorry and still makes jokes with his mates in the interview. I think he is seeking alot of attention.

StInKy LoVeR

16-01-2008, 01:01 PM

And the police have arrested the party boy. Well thats what i heard on the radio.

R33F

16-01-2008, 01:11 PM

And the police have arrested the party boy. Well thats what i heard on the radio.

Now - if this is true, and they issued him with a fine - how many of his 500 'mates' do you think would be there to:

a) bail him

b) contribute to helping pay the 20k fine ? (it's only $40 each)

None would be my guess....

Bunch of fucking numpty's.

sawtell

16-01-2008, 01:33 PM

im curious what he was arrested for? In that article it talks about him running out of an interview and being arrestd for it or someother jumbled garbage.

hahahaha i hate this guy more and more everytime i look at him.

TheBofh

16-01-2008, 01:37 PM

The sad thing about this muppet is that he's a normal Gen Y teenager. There are members with similar attitudes in the forums all the time. Corey's problem is that he didn't have Grip to sort him out.

R33F

16-01-2008, 01:42 PM

Corey's problem is that he didn't have Grip to sort him out.

GOLD !! :D :D :D

Binaural

16-01-2008, 01:49 PM

Corey's problem is that he didn't have Grip to sort him out with a bat.

Fixed that for you ;)

TheBofh

16-01-2008, 01:58 PM

Maybe he could be sentenced to a compulsory apprenticeship with Grip with a jail term for any time left if he dropped out? I reckon he'd get 4 years in jail in that case.

.:Easily:.

16-01-2008, 02:34 PM

The party boy has been arrested. I find it funny that he didnt expect this sort of reaction from the police with all the smashed bottles and urination haha. I guess the media is just playing this up because he is 16.

PINT of Stella, mate!

16-01-2008, 06:09 PM

two kids have been arrested following the party and in a twist that no-one saw coming, one's been charged with producing child pornography.

http://news.ninemsn.com.au/article.aspx?id=366786

I knew it! You can always spot paedophiles by their dodgy glasses...

Venciferus

16-01-2008, 08:36 PM

The sad thing about this muppet is that he's a normal Gen Y teenager.

What's with the teen bashing from so many members, so much of the time. I mean ALL of you were a teenager once, not every teenager is a stupid, dumb, obnoxious, ignorant hooligan. I agree that lots are but most of those that already are will never change (after teen years), stop just putting everyone in the same boat.

NCR600

16-01-2008, 08:55 PM

What's with the teen bashing from so many members, so much of the time. I mean ALL of you were a teenager once, not every teenager is a stupid, dumb, obnoxious, ignorant hooligan. I agree that lots are but most of those that already are will never change (after teen years), stop just putting everyone in the same boat.

Judging what my teacher friends tell me, behaviour is much more obnoxious than it was 15 years ago, and believe me, I was considered a bloody obnoxious teenager in my time.

Having said that, I'm constantly amazed at how articulate and intelligent some of the teenagers on this forum are. I quite often get suprised to find out some of the amazingly knowledgable, intelligent and articulate posters on here are quite litereally half my age.

Vicious_Fishes

16-01-2008, 08:57 PM

16-01-2008, 09:08 PM

Judging what my teacher friends tell me, behaviour is much more obnoxious than it was 15 years ago, and believe me, I was considered a bloody obnoxious teenager in my time.

Ahh every generation says that about the generation after them. If it was all true, the whole planet would be a smoking crater by now.

NCR600

16-01-2008, 09:31 PM

Ahh every generation says that about the generation after them. If it was all true, the whole planet would be a smoking crater by now.

Of course they do. Being a teenager would suck otherwise. (not that it doesn't suck anyway... no way would I go back to beeing a teenager again)

I think there will always be a moderate and intelligent majority of teenagers that slip beneath the radar, it's just that a moronic element has emerged, fuelled by MotoXXX, Crusty Demons and Jackass that worship total stupidity, and are only too aware of their right to do so.

Regan of Gong

16-01-2008, 09:45 PM

Producing child pornography? My money's on one of them filmed something stupid on a mobile and it's just done the rounds.

I think he's been treated unfairly- lots of the group were allegedly from another broken up party, while he allegedly stayed in the house so he wouldn't get in trouble. To some degree I would say he's become a scapegoat as the party was at his house. ACA was just shit stirring, he said he's offered to apologise to neighbours.

Sam.

16-01-2008, 09:47 PM

I like how they used the quotes from other interviews in which the parents were named and then all of a sudden "the parents, who can't be named"

Child Pornogrphy, as serious as it is, as regan says it would probably just have been something stupid filmed on a phone.

If the media knew how many kids my age drank, our school would be an f'ing media circus. I don't see how the damage is any other different to another party. Except for the numbers, with the claimed 500 alot more damage could be done than a few broken windows and smashed potplants!

PINT of Stella, mate!

16-01-2008, 09:48 PM

Bring back National Service, I say! There was no gallivanting to be had by the young whippersnappers when there was Jerry to fight! Institutionalised bullying, Post-Traumatic Stress Disorder, Trench Foot and the fear of certain death at the hands of an SS sniper are all character building activities that are sorely needed by these disrespectful layabout ruffians.

Why just look at that young fellow in the news. Is he even male? Hair like that in my day meant you were probably the skipper's cabin boy on a merchant navy steamer - not an admirable position for one with aspirations of courtship with a lady. No, sodomy and the foul stench of ouzo would be the order of the day for that young fellow.
Still, it was a grand old life in the merchant navy. One would get to see the four corners of the globe. Everything from yankee vagabonds to opium crazed chinamen to the peculiar french. And the ladies. A girl in every port they used to say and BY Golly they were right! Of course one might not always be guaranteed the hand of a fair maiden on shore leave and would sometimes have to spend a farthing or two in a local house of ill repute after a night of ale. Ahh those memories of the fiery bootleg rum, the overpowering scent of a well-used wench and the sting of the iodine as you'd scrub your unmentionables a week later when the warts would appear.

Of course it's all different these days. But I shall bother you young'uns no more. These reflections of my mispent youth have caused a stirring in my loins and it's been quite a few years since that last happened.
Now where's my new maid...

16-01-2008, 09:53 PM

You're a f**king nutter.

jarryd1986

16-01-2008, 10:06 PM

morgo_mpx

16-01-2008, 10:19 PM

If you read properly and not just follow the band wagon it says that the other person (not Corey) was arrested for child porn. And it is most likely to be something like two 16yr olds making out.

In the interviews he was just acting like most teens would, and showoff while in the limelight, while being egged on by his friends. Also ACA plainly just tried to ridicule him. When he told the reporter, no, you can bugger off. She got on her pedistule and pretty much said "HOW DARE YOU!".

He threw a party with underage drinking. Big woop, it happens all over the world. I have been at worse parties then what was shown and no one made a stink about them. It has just been blown up by the media.

Also by saying, "what is the world coming to, the youth of today, bla bla bla"...
The generation before us(im a teen), were smoking and drinking at the same age, the only deference is that the world is much smaller now, a so word spreads quicker, so pretty much everything is blown out of proportion.

Breaka

16-01-2008, 11:22 PM

The newest article is very vaguely describes who/what was involved in the 'child porn' incident. Because of this I can only make up my own theory.

A phone was confiscated as evidence to see whether or not the invitations were infact sent via sms. During the process of examining the phone pictures were found of a young girl with her tits out (or similar nature). Assuming those involved were the same age as the douche bag who held the party (16) its then classified as child porn.

Don't take my word for it though, this is just theorized by some drunken scum bag.:)

sawtell

17-01-2008, 01:54 AM

A phone was confiscated as evidence to see whether or not the invitations were infact sent via sms. During the process of examining the phone pictures were found of a young girl with her tits out (or similar nature). Assuming those involved were the same age as the douche bag who held the party (16) its then classified as child porn.

hoppe cops dont get my phone or my comp then... 15, 16, 17 yr ol are sooo damn fine.

im filming two right now, PM me for details, but razor riders probaly beetter hope of boob shots. !!!!

johnny

17-01-2008, 02:45 AM

It's getting seriously out of hand now. IF he hadn't been all over the TV and radio there is no way the cops would be making such a big deal out of it. This is deadset over board and I'm tipping that the wash up is that the cops will have egg on their faces for taking it this far. The furor will die down and people will be left asking why he hasn't been charged, why he isn't paying back the money and who is now footing the bill for the failed court proceedings.

One thing I can't work out; is Victoria a police state or a nanny state?

Rik

17-01-2008, 05:59 AM

I love the reactions here, you guys are making yourself look even dumber than this Corey bloke did. Unfortunately you're nowhere near as funny though. Go on, get sucked in by media hype, you know you want to :)

The "child porn" charges are hilarious, and again if you believe it's something more sinister than titty pics on a phone you're the idiot here.

PINT of Stella, mate!

17-01-2008, 06:33 AM

The Victorian Police PR department must be working a hell of a lot of overtime this week...

courtesy of The Age
What were the police thinking?'

January 17, 2008

Peter Katsambanis is a Melbourne lawyer and former Liberal member of the Victorian Parliament. He and his 13-year-old son were caught by the police macing of the crowd at the tennis. He is outraged. This is his story.

AS MY 13-year-old son and I scurried for the exits at Flinders Park on Tuesday night, our eyes were stinging and our throats burning. Yesterday morning we woke with puffy eyes and the horrible aftertaste of capsicum spray lingered on.

It should have been a wonderful day at the tennis but the last match of the evening turned into a nightmare that made us glad to get out of the place, fearing for our safety.

So how did the Australian Open with its motto "Where the world comes to play" become the place where the Victoria Police come to spray?

The respective fans of Fernando Gonzalez and Konstantinos Economidis were chanting mostly in foreign tongues understood only by themselves, their compatriots and the player they were supporting. Some of the language from the supporters of Economidis was probably as blue as the T-shirts they were wearing. The offenders should have been identified and quickly ejected by the police, as happens at many cricket and football matches.

But instead the police chose to use capsicum spray on the offenders, blatantly disregarding the safety of all spectators in the arena. Within seconds, parts of the stadium resembled a war zone rather than the genteel surrounds of a tennis court. Plumes of spray flew through the air and people scattered everywhere. We were sitting about 20 metres away enjoying a fine match. We saw two clouds of spray and then a few moments later we felt a sharp burning pain in the eyes and throat as we were overcome by the fumes. Pity the poor fans that copped a direct spray or were closer to the line of fire.

All of a sudden, hundreds of spectators headed for the exits in a state of panic and confusion. Many, including ourselves, were clearly affected by the spray as they stumbled and coughed across seats looking for safety. The exit gates closest to the "action" were either closed or blocked by police and security.

As fans scrambled for other nearby exits it is a miracle that the crowd's panic did not cause a stampede or result in more serious injuries.

What were the police thinking? Did they contemplate the potentially dangerous consequences of their actions before they acted in this way? Did they think of the safety of the thousands of law-abiding fans who got caught up in this whole mess?

Capsicum spray represents a fundamental shift from how police have conventionally controlled sporting crowds. A shift that runs the risk of turning the Australian love of sport into a dangerous pastime, where a capsicum-spray induced stampede for the exits could have catastrophic consequences. How anyone in authority can condone the use of capsicum spray in such circumstances beggars belief.

Beyond an apology, Christine Nixon and tennis authorities should commit to making sure it never happens again. The safety and security of the majority of law-abiding fans should be paramount and police should be able to deal with a few troublemakers without resorting to such heavy-handed tactics.

In the meantime, my son and I — and many others like us — will confine our tennis viewing to the square box, risking only eye strain rather than the sharp pain in our eyes and throats that we endured on Tuesday night.

Hmm, helicopters and dog squads to a house party, charging 16yr olds with child pornography charges due to party pics (although that's still idle speculation) and firing off capsicum spray in a crowded arena. got heavy handed?

Oddjob

17-01-2008, 10:17 AM

He threw a party with underage drinking. Big woop, it happens all over the world. I have been at worse parties then what was shown and no one made a stink about them. It has just been blown up by the media.

Also by saying, "what is the world coming to, the youth of today, bla bla bla"...
The generation before us(im a teen), were smoking and drinking at the same age, the only deference is that the world is much smaller now, a so word spreads quicker, so pretty much everything is blown out of proportion.

Well this is the thing.

I've been to the odd rowdy party, ranging from house parties that were crashed by tongan and somoan homeboys where the SWAT team turned up, to lock ins at pubs where we drank the place dry, to kegs at uni where I was covering myself and everyone around me in beer, to Manumission in Ibiza where 10,000 up for it types are running around in clubbing and S&M gear getting jiggy with it. But at none of these events did the organisers have a total callous disregard for who turned up to the party and what the consequences of that would be.

Add to that the kids arrogance, his fashion victim appearance and his initial lack of remorse and you have the recipe for a (well deserved) media beat up.

The whole youth of today stuff is garbage too. The generation before you were doing a lot more than drinking and smoking as teenagers, they just knew to keep a lower profile. ;)

steve-o33

17-01-2008, 12:21 PM

I say hes a legend, like he said everyone said it was the best party ever.. and it probley was. And he is getting money from all these interviews, it said on nova the other day that nova wouldn't meet his cash demands for an interview.
Lets all face it its not his fault, he didnt individually invite 500 people and it is great how he handles himself on TV, what a pisser! If he had have just put on the innocent face and appologised he would have gotten bareley any air time, but with the whole bad boy look hes getting heaps... and more money and thats what he wants.
and btw the chicks seem to dig it!

meatlovers

17-01-2008, 12:56 PM

http://jan07.m4pc.info/index.php?url=lgrbtUj6ZbEuxYbK3T9PmNWyBWanLaJefGqf 0riXnnPDESnauGdu34kWLSMSJSFinA%3D%3D

Schism

17-01-2008, 01:11 PM

http://jan07.m4pc.info/index.php?url=lgrbtUj6ZbEuxYbK3T9PmNWyBWanLaJefGqf 0riXnnPDESnauGdu34kWLSMSJSFinA%3D%3D

Bahahahaha. And its even called 500! GOLD :D

dcrofty

17-01-2008, 01:57 PM

17-01-2008, 02:12 PM

One thing I can't work out; is Victoria a police state or a nanny state?

Nanny state. The police here are a bunch of whingeing sooks who go out of their way to unsuccessfully stamp their authority on any gathering of more than 10 people and usually end up looking like tools for it.

Fatman

17-01-2008, 02:51 PM

This didn't take long,
http://www.slapcorey.com/

I never seem to tire of it, but I'm sure like the twat himself the amusement and interest will pass.

Vicious_Fishes

17-01-2008, 03:07 PM

This kid should be dragged out onto the street and have the shit kicked out of him.

He might be wishing now he was not such a dickhead showing his ugly mug all over the media now it looks like he is about the become Australia's best known producer of child porn.

Well done mate. Your a life failure. Shame he isn't old enough to lock up so he can get the 'beating he deserves'

But then again, since he seems to like the young ones he might not really mind being a little bit flexible with the age restrictions.....

Oh yeah. but his name cannot be released for legal reasons....

you're a fucking idiot.

back on topic,

the only thing anyone could successfully argue against him is that he would have had the knowledge and awareness that if he put an open invite there is a realistic possibility (to the tune of 100% of the party's i've been to) that some *types* of people will show up that just ruin it, be it vandalism or starting fights or whatever. ;)

teenage tits on a phone as a criminal offence is a joke.

http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b192/00vr6gti/image003.jpg

PINT of Stella, mate!

17-01-2008, 03:31 PM

I say hes a legend, like he said everyone said it was the best party ever.. and it probley was

You don't get out much, do you?

Adrian

17-01-2008, 03:37 PM

*EDIT: CustomJimmy beat me by a long way... oh welll, pic stays up...

From the first time I saw him on film all dressed up, it reminded me of someone else.... I can't work out why.

http://www.joebluhm.com/ebay/young_elton_john.jpg

scblack

17-01-2008, 03:42 PM

downhillboy

17-01-2008, 03:48 PM

The f**kwit deserves to be fined for those sunnies if not anything else

yes i knew someone would of sad something about his sunnies

pinned--->

17-01-2008, 08:23 PM

I'm speaking to him on MSN right now. What a tool!

mtb1611

19-01-2008, 08:02 AM

I've read this entire thread. Some of the posts are disturbing, yet indicative of the society we live in which allows fuckwits like this to gain fame.

'Ross

19-01-2008, 09:29 AM

Could some mod please make this Stevo33s new avatar? :D

Martin.au

19-01-2008, 11:24 AM

Actually I think it's funny. I wonder what it will be like for him in 6 months - year, when the media have lost interest in him and no one can remember who he is. If he's ego driven and is loving the media attention now, I wonder if being normal down the track will be enough for him. Maybe he'll do a Britney.

Alec McJo

19-01-2008, 11:39 AM

Martin.au

19-01-2008, 12:21 PM

He'll probably end up on Big Brother in 2 years time.

Britney.......Big brother.......close enough.

mtb1611

19-01-2008, 12:28 PM

I'd say a beating (if not many) is in his future. He received threats when nterviewed on Fox-FM and it's only a matter of time before his ego crosses the wrong person and punches ensue. Aussies love to cut down a tall poppy, and this one will be no different.

He's just another 16 year old fuckwit. The real crims here are the media who are perpetuating his 15 min via interviews (paid) and tools like that Tim the promoter from Sydney. Perhaps the biggest arseholes of all though are channel 10 and Big Brother, who have formally approached him regarding a hosting role for BB. That makes me sick. Will be funny (?) if he does any nightclub promos, can you imagine the queue of people wanting to tear him a new one?!

slip

19-01-2008, 12:49 PM

Will be funny (?) if he does any nightclub promos, can you imagine the queue of people wanting to tear him a new one?!

I'm not sure how many people care that much about some random kid, that they would attend a nightclub just to give him shit.

If anything, mob rule, bunch of people at a nightclub who like to party + kid who threw a big one, he won't get hassled. When you are young and a party gets on the news, it's a feather in your cap.

What are they going to give him shit about? If people are going to have a dig at him for how he presents himself, they'll have to abuse a lot of other people as well. Put him with a bunch of other young guys, and he will look like many others.

mtb1611

19-01-2008, 12:55 PM

I'm not sure how many people care that much about some random kid, that they would attend a nightclub just to give him shit.

If anything, mob rule, bunch of people at a nightclub who like to party + kid who threw a big one, he won't get hassled. When you are young and a party gets on the news, it's a feather in your cap.

What are they going to give him shit about? If people are going to have a dig at him for how he presents himself, they'll have to abuse a lot of other people as well. Put him with a bunch of other young guys, and he will look like many others.

I don't think they'd attend specifically to see him, however there's no way he'd escape an alcohol and testosterone fuelled mob unscathed. What are they going to give him sjit about? Is that a serious question?! Read through this thread an you may get an inkling.

Mattydv

19-01-2008, 12:55 PM

I'm not sure if this has been posted yet (haven't gone through the pages), but in response to being asked whether these people would DJ a party of his, these were the responses:

Goodwill – I would open with Tiga’s ‘Sunglasses At Night’ and then go straight into ‘My Future’s So Bright I’ve Gotta Wear Shades’.

Pocket, Poxymusic – Sure… but only if I could touch his sunglasses. And maybe perhaps… later… play a set, just to his sunglasses..

Jeff Drake – ...I’m not sure I have the right pink doona to get in. Plus I don’t have any $10 servo sunnies.

Acid Jacks – ...But we told him we won’t wear any faggy sunglasses

Derek {K} - ...He also has to take his glasses off at the party...

Ben Morris – No, because he wears fluoro.

His sunnies really are famous :p

slip

19-01-2008, 01:03 PM

What are they going to give him sjit about? Is that a serious question?! Read through this thread an you may get an inkling.

Yes, I've read the thread. There is a general consensus among the thoughtful that it's all a load of crap. Even Johnny reversed his original 'anti' opinion.

What he has done.
Dress sense.
Been a smartarse and made big TV show host look like an idiot.
Threw a party that was broken up by the cops.

1st one, he can dress how he likes, I don't care.
2nd, good on him, those shows/hosts are ridiculous and he treated them as such.
3rd, pretty normal teenage stuff, nothing bad happened anyway.

Someone full of piss may give him shit, but those ignoring him and the young females after him will outweigh them by plenty.

mtb1611

19-01-2008, 01:42 PM

Don't equate being thoughtful wth knowing what's right. The kid is an arrogant turd and a glaring indication of much that is fucked up with society. A failure to comprehend that merely indicates being part of the problem.

I couldn't care less how he dresses or how he treats ACA (because those type of shows deserve to be shown up for the crap that they are). I don't care for the total disregard he has fo other people's property or the wasting of taxpayer's money, or the complete inability to take repsonsibility for his own actions. The fact that many other teenagers behave the same way does not, IMO, make it anymore acceptable. Quite frankly, anyone who sides with this kid is a fucking idiot.

NASHWORTH

19-01-2008, 01:49 PM

1st one, he can dress how he likes, I don't care.
2nd, good on him, those shows/hosts are ridiculous and he treated them as such.
3rd, pretty normal teenage stuff, nothing bad happened anyway.

umm. im a teenager and I dont hold parties when my parents are gone and invite people off myspace to it. And how can you say nothing bad happened, people smashed cop car windscreens and threw bottles at them!!!. I almost started rolling on the floor laughing when he said his glasses are famous. I hope he gets the 20 grand fine.

slip

19-01-2008, 02:11 PM

The kid is an arrogant turd and a glaring indication of much that is fucked up with society. A failure to comprehend that merely indicates being part of the problem.

Quite frankly, anyone who sides with this kid is a fucking idiot.

Well that's a bit harsh. It's often a wild time in life, anything ending in 'teen'. Trashing hotels, arrests, cops breaking up parties, fights, destruction of public property, trespassing, vandalism, running from security guards, drugs and alcohol, nudity etc sound quite horrific when written like that, but many of those things are part of teenage years for many, many people. Especially guys. I've got all the above on my resume, on paper it looks bad, but I was one of the good kids growing up.

At 16, you don't have much worldly perspective and self critique of your actions. What do you want him to do, break down crying and beg for forgiveness for throwing a party? If your parents go away, and say no parties....well, what do you think is going to happen? A party.

umm. im a teenager and I dont hold parties when my parents are gone and invite people off myspace to it. And how can you say nothing bad happened, people smashed cop car windscreens and threw bottles at them!!!. I almost started rolling on the floor laughing when he said his glasses are famous. I hope he gets the 20 grand fine.

Well you're a good kid, but parents going away is THE time to have a party for some.....many people.

Nothing bad happened. Oh boo hoo a windscreen got broken. Bad things at parties = drug overdose, alcohol poisoning, stabbing, serious fight, serious damage to houses/cars, rape/sexual assault etc. A broken windscreen is nothing, especially for a 500 strong group of pissed teenagers being disbanded by the cops.

Did the police fine the Redfern community when they started rioting and really fucking things up? That was an intentional act of revenge violence directly targeted at police.

Why don't we go after hosts of parties where innocent peoples cars are trashed, stabbings, gang fights etc? No-one tries to foot them with a police overreaction bill.

No-one would have said he should pay some ridiculous bill unless the media/cops had come out with it. People are so easily led, like well behaved sheep.

Lets take the media and his dress sense out of it - He organised a party on myspace, a shit-ton of people rocked up, the cops got rid of them. The end. Not so bad now is it?

mtb1611

19-01-2008, 04:34 PM

Well that's a bit harsh. It's often a wild time in life, anything ending in 'teen'. Trashing hotels, arrests, cops breaking up parties, fights, destruction of public property, trespassing, vandalism, running from security guards, drugs and alcohol, nudity etc sound quite horrific when written like that, but many of those things are part of teenage years for many, many people. Especially guys. I've got all the above on my resume, on paper it looks bad, but I was one of the good kids growing up.

At 16, you don't have much worldly perspective and self critique of your actions. What do you want him to do, break down crying and beg for forgiveness for throwing a party? If your parents go away, and say no parties....well, what do you think is going to happen? A party.

And the reason for this? The climate we live in today encourages mollycoddling teenagers via the "oh it's just what teenagers do" mentality. And that's wrong! I know lots of teenagers, and their parents, who think this kid is a tool who needs to be dealt with severely. Sure, he and others like him can't be held entirely responsible because they're a produc of their environment, from both a family and societal perspective. That doesn't negate the fact that he's an insolent little prick who needs taking down a few notches, as opposed to being elevated to celebrity status by a media machine that cares only about ratings and revenue. Add to this a judicial system which is effectively a paper tiger that goes out of its way to absolve people of responsility for their own actions, and you have a societal production line for arseholes.

And if my parents had gone away with the expressed "no party" edict, suffice to say that if I'd thrown a party, I'd still be limping as a result of the consequences. What you're saying is that it's okay for teenagers to consciously ignore and deliberately disobey their parents instructions. Irrespective of how often this happens, it's not okay. All you're doing is making excuses for the prick.

slip

19-01-2008, 05:12 PM

I know lots of teenagers, and their parents, who think this kid is a tool who needs to be dealt with severely. Sure, he and others like him can't be held entirely responsible because they're a product of their environment, from both a family and societal perspective.

What you're saying is that it's okay for teenagers to consciously ignore and deliberately disobey their parents instructions. Irrespective of how often this happens, it's not okay. All you're doing is making excuses for the prick.

Paragraph 1. Well should he be dealt with severely, or can we not hold him responsible? What exactly should happen to him that is 'severe'?

2. No, it's not okay. I never said he did the right thing, and if I had pulled a stunt like that I would have copped a right flogging. Hell, I used to cop a good hit just for talking back. What I am saying is that it's nothing new, and tried to promote some perspective.

He should not have had the party, and he will/is be in the shit bigtime for it. To me, throwing a party does not even register on the radar. Bullies, sexual predators, arsonists, thieves etc are the bastard teenagers that need to be sorted out bigtime, and are a big problem with society. But guess what, they are nothing new - that's how this country was colonised remember......

Insolent? He said sorry on national television! He was insolent toward the media, and bonus points for that.

Why isn't the media going after the kid who tortures classmates for years, or bashes someone just to steal their phone and wallet?

mtb1611

19-01-2008, 05:33 PM

Paragraph 1. Well should he be dealt with severely, or can we not hold him responsible? What exactly should happen to him that is 'severe'?

2. No, it's not okay. I never said he did the right thing, and if I had pulled a stunt like that I would have copped a right flogging. Hell, I used to cop a good hit just for talking back. What I am saying is that it's nothing new, and tried to promote some perspective.

He should not have had the party, and he will/is be in the shit bigtime for it. To me, throwing a party does not even register on the radar. Bullies, sexual predators, arsonists, thieves etc are the bastard teenagers that need to be sorted out bigtime, and are a big problem with society. But guess what, they are nothing new - that's how this country was colonised remember......

Insolent? He said sorry on national television! He was insolent toward the media, and bonus points for that.

Why isn't the media going after the kid who tortures classmates for years, or bashes someone just to steal their phone and wallet?

Okay, you've cleared up a few things there, good stuff. He is still insolent though, and his apology was at best hollow.

As to why the media don't hone in on the types of children you mention...firstly many of those incidents occur at school and therefore the DET (or whatever the relevant state calls its education dept) has very strict privacy clauses which are adhered to and secondly, those sort of chn don't generally relish the thought of publicly admitting to their misdemeanors on national tv!

Jon

19-01-2008, 07:16 PM

When is simple respect for other people and their stuff going to be taught at school? Parents who have no care for anything past their own needs will produce disrespectful brats like this.
Part and parcel of school is firm discipline which from my view of having 2 children in school and first hand experience of the juvenile justice system is sorely lacking.The school system is not to blame however. Soft cock government officials bent over by the threat of legal action from smart arse lawyers hired by greedy ,incompetent parents.
In my area vandalism is a major problem,even to stuff set up for the kids that do the damage ,such as skate parks and bike jump parks.I am not talking graffiti either, more burn the toilet block to the ground or set a fire in the bowl so intense it destroys the surface concrete. Not to mention private vehicles being burnt out in their driveways.
Yep,I acknowledge that teens have big parties,that is a fact of life.
Yep, cops sometimes get called.
But this kid is a Knob,cocky attitude,arrogant and disrespectful to his parents simply by disobeying them.
Bring back old school discipline and teach kids respect and say goodbye to the Corey's of this world.
End rant

PINT of Stella, mate!

19-01-2008, 09:20 PM

Bring back old school discipline and teach kids respect and say goodbye to the Corey's of this world.
End rant

Old school discipline did fuck all for the kids of yesteryear. Anyone who can sit there and say 'well we got flogged at cschool and it made us disciplined and respectful' is either full of shit or have just donned one hell of a rose-tinted welding mask.

Kids have been malevolent little shits throughout history. We didn't hear about it so much in the past though for any number of reasons:

Because the media was nowhere near as widespread as today, Parents couldn't afford to bugger off on holiday without taking the whole brood in a caravan on a drive down the coast, House parties would be spread by word of mouth because no-one had mobiles, We had them cleaning chimneys at the age of 10, We were too busy sending them off to kill or be killed in godforsaken foreign hell-holes etc. etc.

I'm not so sure about Australian history but I know in the UK there were mass punch-ons between mods and rockers in the '60's (mostly late teens) The Glasgow razor gangs (also '60's), Teddy Boys in the '50's used to knock seven shades of shit out of each other regularly to a soundtrack of fucking Bill Haley and Buddy Holly!

Anyone seen ever seen Heavenly Creatures? Teenage lesbians caving a mothers head in with a brick iin the 1950's. And it was all true!

Meanwhile across the world (well, mostly Africa) kids as young as 12 are being given ak-47's and being taught to murder, rape and maim.

An annoying little fashion victim holding a wee get-together that results in a few broken windows and some public urination doesn't really compare, now does it?

:cool: <------ (notice they're not bright yellow sunnies - Old school black will never die! ;))

morto1980

19-01-2008, 09:59 PM

Old school discipline did fuck all for the kids of yesteryear. Anyone who can sit there and say 'well we got flogged at cschool and it made us disciplined and respectful' is either full of shit or have just donned one hell of a rose-tinted welding mask.

I still remember getting 6 of the best (cane) across the backside for messing with a teachers car in high school. I almost passed out from the shock and most certainly realised not to do that again. Some kids (there were about 3 in the whole school) didn't seem to care and were always getting whipped and were always in trouble.

I suppose punishment affects different people in different ways.

The real problem in this case is the media involvement. If the media didn't get involved it would just be another kid having a party while his folks were away (albeit a large one aided by technology).

He is a complete toss though. Seriously. But so are a lot of immature 16 year olds. If the media headline was "16 year old craves attention and makes bad decision" would anyone look twice?

mtb1611

20-01-2008, 01:01 PM

Old school discipline did fuck all for the kids of yesteryear. Anyone who can sit there and say 'well we got flogged at cschool and it made us disciplined and respectful' is either full of shit or have just donned one hell of a rose-tinted welding mask.

If it did fuck all from them, why are they now calling for its reinstatement? The very people you refer to are the ones craving a return to old-school discipline! I don't condone the physicality of old-school discipline, but you have to wonder about the consequences it conjured up, or whether it was responsible for ensuring that people were made accountable for their actions. Yesteryear may have been in some ways primitive and brutal, but it didn't have to contend with the do-gooding farkers who seem to delight in making excuses for people and giving them an "out" when they're called upon to accept responsibility for their actions. Sure, the media are a huge part of the problem, but it's neither fair nor rational to expect that they shoulder all the blame. We now live in a society where people get away with murder (both literally and figuratively). Why is that? Yes, there was violence in times gone by, yes there were rambunctious teenagers and wild parties, yes there were mass muderers and pedohiles etc etc, but not in the numbers we see today. There must have been some aspect of past society that beat such things down. What was it?

PINT of Stella, mate!

20-01-2008, 02:56 PM

If it did fuck all from them, why are they now calling for its reinstatement? The very people you refer to are the ones craving a return to old-school discipline! I don't condone the physicality of old-school discipline, but you have to wonder about the consequences it conjured up, or whether it was responsible for ensuring that people were made accountable for their actions. Yesteryear may have been in some ways primitive and brutal, but it didn't have to contend with the do-gooding farkers who seem to delight in making excuses for people and giving them an "out" when they're called upon to accept responsibility for their actions. Sure, the media are a huge part of the problem, but it's neither fair nor rational to expect that they shoulder all the blame. We now live in a society where people get away with murder (both literally and figuratively). Why is that? Yes, there was violence in times gone by, yes there were rambunctious teenagers and wild parties, yes there were mass muderers and pedohiles etc etc, but not in the numbers we see today. There must have been some aspect of past society that beat such things down. What was it?

First off I'm not blaming the media for anything. I'm saying that an increase in available media has meant that we hear about a lot more about violent acts and civil disturbances these days than in the past. Also the rise in commercial media has led to an upping of the 'ghoul' factor in reporting - basically, stations know that people are more likely to watch the news if it contains anything to do with sex (not so much on tv due to guidelines but look at any news website's top stories and it's guaranteed if there are any headlines containing the word 'sex' they'll be up there) or tragedy. This media frenzy about violent anarchic streets and paedophiles in every playground is largely down to the publics desire to be scared. Nobody would watch the news if it was always good news...

Your numbers argument? Australia's estimated population in the 1950's (The older generations 'golden age') was around 9 million - less than half what it is now. Therefore if you've got double the population you should get roughly double the crime rates. This isn't entirely the case with violent crime having actually fallen per capita although there is a new focus on theft particularly technological (credit card fraud etc.) as peoples disposable incomes have increased and home technology has become more advanced and thus more appealing to thieves.

As for corporal punishment working? You only need to go to any country where corporal punishment is actively encouraged in parents, schools and the police force(most of the developing world) and look at their crime rates. Alternatively how many thugs and criminals come from broken homes where abuse was rife?

Finally the older generation who are calling for 'bringing back the birch' do tend to see the past through rose tinted glasses. I know my Gran swears blind that life was far simpler and people were a lot more polite back in the forties. She also used to work on an anti-aircraft battery on teh South Coast of England that was tasked with shooting down planes that were sent to drop bombs on civillian areas by a regime that was hell bent on exterminating millions, conquering the whole of europe and establishing the notion of a master race...

mtb1611

20-01-2008, 03:15 PM

I'm not stipulating that you're blaming the media; it's my personal contention that they are an immense part of the problem, based purely on the manner of story that they give the most airtime to and promote the most.

In terms of numbers and incidence of crime I'm basing that argument on I guess a percentage/per head of capita kind of ratio, not simple out and out numbers.

There is a huge differene between corporal punishment and abusive broken homes; to equate the two is neither a rational or meaningful comparison. And if you re-read my post I'm clearly not advocating a return to corporal punishment, merely posing the question that, if it wasn't corporal punishment that was keeping things in line way back when, what aspect of society was?

We needn't worry about the proliferation of a master race from within our own culture; given the likes of Corey and co, we'll be a wholesale sheltered workshop race within a few generations. Perhaps the rose-coloured glasses actually showed things up for what they were, allowing them to be dealt with effectively?