mobile phone while driving.

[sawtell]

ok ok ok .

this is for victorian people, dont go answering me with your NSW rules or what ever, as they are probaly different.

i am on my p's, have been before july 07, before all the new laws came in.

this now makes me a p2 driver (green p's) due to the stupid new laws. which i should also ad i am rebeling against, and still have my red P's up!!

any way.

can i talk on my mobile phone, on handsfree while driving?
i always thought i wasnt allowed to talk on a phone at all..but after reading through the new laws etc, mention's nothing of P2 drivers not being able to, and just says that "now" (being the key word) p1 drivers are not allowed to use a mobile phone at all. ..

this makes me think that maybe i am allowed to talk on hands free?


any help

i have searched vicroads website, an the internet, i will nto call vicraods or the police to find out, as both are hopeless and i find dont know their own rules, they only seem to know them when they can fine you for it.

[Giant_4_Life]

http://www.vicroads.vic.gov.au/Home/RoadSafety/MobilePhonesAndDriving.htm


i think this link will tell you all about it.


"The law
It is illegal in all Australian states and territories to use a hand-held mobile phone while driving. This includes:

* talking
* texting
* playing games
* taking photos/video
* using any other function on your phone.


Using a mobile phone is also illegal when your vehicle is stationary but not parked e.g. when you’re stopped at traffic lights.

Drivers who break this law in Victoria face an on-the-spot fine and incur three demerit points.

Learner and P1 drivers are not permitted to use a hand-held or hands-free mobile phone while driving."

[sawtell]

http://www.vicroads.vic.gov.au/Home/RoadSafety/MobilePhonesAndDriving.htm


i think this link will tell you all about it.


"The law
It is illegal in all Australian states and territories to use a hand-held mobile phone while driving. This includes:

* talking
* texting
* playing games
* taking photos/video
* using any other function on your phone.


Using a mobile phone is also illegal when your vehicle is stationary but not parked e.g. when you’re stopped at traffic lights.

Drivers who break this law in Victoria face an on-the-spot fine and incur three demerit points.

Learner and P1 drivers are not permitted to use a hand-held or hands-free mobile phone while driving."


i did read that.

but doesnt really answer my question.

the highlighted in bold bits are what stuff it up for me. My phone is hand held, i just put it on speaker phone.. can i not talk?
what mobile phone is not hand held.. i havnt seen a car phone in a long time. :confused:
the way it is worded seems to say that you are only allowed to use a mobile phone that is in a car kit.. and that you do not have to touch at all.

then it mentions P1 drivers are not allowed to use hands free, are normal drivers permitted to use hands free, it does not actualy mention anything of it any where, except saying that learners and p1's are not allowed to use it.


so basically what i am trying to say now is, when my phone is on speaker phone, is it classified as a hand held mobile phone still......

or is it as basic as, if its not in my hand, its not hand held..

[ajay]

Yes, you can use hands free.

EDIT: providing that its not actually in your hands.

but its worth getting a kit anyway.

[Plow King]

I doubt anyone is going to catch you out for talking to a handsfree. If a cop asks. you were:

A/ Singing to yourself.
B/ Yelling at the driver who nearly took out a cat whilst drinking a bottle of vodka.
C/ Yelling at the leprocaun pulling funny faces at you sitting on the dashboard.

[sawtell]

Yes, you can use hands free.

EDIT: providing that its not actually in your hands.

but its worth getting a kit anyway.


i never knew that, ive gone the last 2 years not talking on my phone in the car, under the impression that i was unable to use a phone AT ALL while driving. ..

and plow, its pretty obivous if some one is on the phone.. looks a little different to singing!!

[Plow King]

and plow, its pretty obivous if some one is on the phone.. looks a little different to singing!!

Well you're obviously not doing it right.

[E-thugin]

kinda off topic.


What I find funny is when I see people driving while holding the phone up to their mouth talking & driving at the same time, thinking that they are smart.

they're still using their hands & breaking the law!!! so why not just use it like a normal mobile phone or not at all while driving for that matter!

[parker93]

Well you could sing to the person you're talking to...

For example

Ill be at your place in a Min..." Go into high falsetto voice "...ute!!!"

They'll never suspect a thing!

[jjperko]

I think though that its the fact you are talking on the phone that distracts you rather than the actual holding of it, so i don't think hands free phones are any better. You know when you try and perform tasks just walking and talking on the phone and you struggle a bit, I don't think that is just due to you having your arm near your ear...

[kelso_472]

well holding it can be pretty troublesome too. for example if your changing gears this means that you will either have to leg go of the steering wheel alltogether, or take the phone away from your ear to change the gears if you are holding it with your left hand, or steer with your elbow or knee if it is in your right hand.

Then all the other factors come into play like turning the radio up/down, winding the window down, the blinkers and of cource your hand to give all the fool drivers the finger every time they cut you off.

So i would say that holding this phone is probably a little more dangerous than just talking into a hands free...

[Spike-X]

Here's a thought - instead of looking for loopholes and exceptions and other ways to weasel out of it, why not just simplify things, and not use your phone at all while you're driving?

Surely whatever you're going to be talking about isn't so earth-shatteringly important that it can't wait a few minutes? Leave the phone alone, focus on your driving, and reduce the risk of getting in an accident, or running some poor cyclist or pedestrian down.

[red death]

I doubt anyone is going to catch you out for talking to a handsfree...

...until you have a prang, there's an investigation and your phone log shows a call happening at the same time. :eek: Wouldn't be the first person caught like that.

face it, mobile phones are evil - don't use 'em. ;)

[hazza37]

just putting it out there... but honestly, how is talking on hands free any different to talking to like the person next to you or behind you?

[Spike-X]

You wouldn't think it would be much different, but personally I've found it requires a lot more concentration to talk to somebody who's 'not there' than to talk to somebody who is.

[AngoXC]

Anyone see the thing on ACA last night about 'who does what when driving'...? The amout of people having sex was pretty astounding...

[Moggio]

You wouldn't think it would be much different, but personally I've found it requires a lot more concentration to talk to somebody who's 'not there' than to talk to somebody who is.

There are a lot of studies on this which show this to be the case. Just do a search on wiki for Mobile_phones_and_driving_safety and then follow their white paper links at the bottom.

[luke.b]

Anyone see the thing on ACA last night about 'who does what when driving'...? The amout of people having sex was pretty astounding...

Yes, but ACA also lists milk and 'fresh' vegetables as the root of all evil.

[Jarrad]

Simply touching your phone while the car is in motion or not parked is illegal.

Good luck to them trying to catch you touching your phone when its out of sight, but yeah.

I'm pretty sure thats where its at..

[s73v30]

Anyone see the thing on ACA last night about 'who does what when driving'...? The amout of people having sex was pretty astounding...

Sounds like someones missing out:p.

[Jimass]

Sounds like someones missing out:p.

Shut uppp, its not that bad.........

[sawtell]

Here's a thought - instead of looking for loopholes and exceptions and other ways to weasel out of it, why not just simplify things, and not use your phone at all while you're driving?

Surely whatever you're going to be talking about isn't so earth-shatteringly important that it can't wait a few minutes? Leave the phone alone, focus on your driving, and reduce the risk of getting in an accident, or running some poor cyclist or pedestrian down.

ey, heres an idea, leave those kind of comments out of it? i ddint ask what people think about me talking on the phone while driving did i?

and im not tyryin to weasle out, or find a loop hole any where, i just want to know the law.. if the law says i can talk on a phone while on hands free.. its not really a loop hole at all, im just doing what im allowed to do.

and to be honest the only times i talk on the phone while driving seem to be, when i am stuck in traffic and running late to meet a client... they tend to get mad when you live them waiting!!!
and people who get equaly as mad, is your boss when you are also running late.

pulling over to make a call makes you more late.


now i admit this isnt the ONLY time i use it while driving, but it does happen.

i also use it for important things such as, finding out what time i am going to start drinking.