hardtail frames wat r the best

[the_one_223]

wat do u think is a mad hardtail frame i can't decide between a .243 racing or a da bomb molotov or a da bomb xlr8 so tell me out of those three and give me some more ideas so i can hit big jumps and drop and stairs and shit like that?

[LEX]

Just go a .243 man. There bloody strong frames and pretty cheep

[Rexy]

hey,
i have a 14.5" 2003 xlr8, it is strong as, and has excellent geo for me personally, the only sucky thing is not been able to get a good seat angle.
they retail for about $375 frame only. oh, and if you buy one....

camo is way better than gloss black

.243s are tanky, and look pretty sweet, though they are heavy, they retail at like $650

[riderigid]

OMGWTFBBQ!!! it must be some kind of record, 2 "what frame should i buy" threads active AT ONE TIME! go team fucktard

[tu plang]

OMGWTFBBQ!!! it must be some kind of record, 2 "what frame should i buy" threads active AT ONE TIME! go team fucktard

yeah because that helps even more :roll:

[DYJK]

i would have to say .243 and after that maybe DMR...

[Austen]

i had an xlr8 and it was a nice nice bike, check my gallery for pix, but you's know what bike im going to say to buy
yeti dj
hell yeah

[LTR]

24/7 Dark Angel
Arrow Warrior
Balfa Minuteman
Banshee Scratch
Batch Juk
Brooklyn Machine Works Parkbike
Cortina Europa
Cove Stiffee FR
Curtis SuperX / SX24
Endless Lifetime
Identi DrJekyll
Intense Tazer
Keewee Progressor
Mountain Cycle Rumble
Nicoli Mtnx / Steel
Orange MsIsle
PlanetX Jackflash Easton
SantaCruz Chameleon
Sinister DNA
Yeti DJ

[Jordy]

OMGWTFBBQ!!! it must be some kind of record, 2 "what frame should i buy" threads active AT ONE TIME! go team fucktard

speaking of fucktards, would you just stop posting all together ? everytime you do all this OMGWTFBBQ!!!1!one shit its making you look like more of an idiot then the people you are referring to

[samuel t]

norco shore range

[brodes]

keewee stealth. good value and strong.

[naz]

http://www.farkin.net/forums/album_pic.php?pic_id=8636
pictures tell a 1000 words

[SPOON]

WoW nice pic u've got there. It definitely spells out " the goods " :)
Get the .243 racing !!

[chris wilson]

na you should go the Evil Imperial

[Regan]

GET A YETI DJ!!!!!!

SOOOO Sweet...... :wink:

THE BEST HT PERIOD!

[manny24]

y'all dont know shit!!!

a shogun trailbreaker, nufin betta :wink:

[jamiejac]

NORCO SASQUATCH, RAMPAGE or any of the shore range

[roffle]

http://www.farkin.net/forums/album_thumbnail.php?pic_id=9740 (http://www.farkin.net/forums/album_pic.php?pic_id=9740)

Rocky Mountain Flow, I'm loving mine.

[chris wilson]

I heard some .243 frames have bent head tubes and are pore quality.

[DYJK]

cough cough...I heard some .243 frames have bent head tubes and are pore quality Amm welli think you should pm Daver he seemed to know a lot about .243 frames and yesi think they do have poor quality control. They are not bent head tubes but more out of line... :)

[Daver]

I heard some .243 frames have bent head tubes and are pore quality.

I heard they all do/are.

[chris wilson]

thats what i meant

[DYJK]

chris wilson wrote:
I heard some .243 frames have bent head tubes and are pore quality.


I heard they all do/are.
WHY dont we ask someone who has one like naz or norco_dave...

[wingy]

chris wilson wrote:
I heard some .243 frames have bent head tubes and are pore quality.


I heard they all do/are.
WHY dont we ask someone who has one like naz or norco_dave...

Mines not, Fiddlers isn't, pretty sure naz would of mentioned it, stinky dan loves his, mmm, can't seem to find any reports of bent/out of line head tubes and generally a neat weld is a good weld. Let me know if there is any reports of that problem as I would seriously be interested.
They are good value and killer strong. They even ride alright....

[Daver]

Mines not, Fiddlers isn't, pretty sure naz would of mentioned it, stinky dan loves his, mmm, can't seem to find any reports of bent/out of line head tubes and generally a neat weld is a good weld. Let me know if there is any reports of that problem as I would seriously be interested.
They are good value and killer strong. They even ride alright....

ask naz to measure his. And Dave Musgrove. Maybe even ask squid for his opinion- if you dare.

[wingy]

Sure, hey Squidly, whats your opinion of 243's?

get a minitman.....they take a flogging and they are pretty light too.....a tidy bike and strong as they come.

[naz]

well im runnin a fork that would scare most duallies let alone a hardtail. and i havent encounted any problems. and i do stupid things on my bicycle

[fiddler]

Bent Head Tube ..... my arse!!

I can't see anything wrong with mine. Seems to me this is just another poor attempt at 243 bashing.

If it is bent then it must be by a bee's dick, because I don't seem to be veering off at funny angles when I am riding. In fact I am riding better on this bike than any other I have owned.

As for POOR quality (pore?) I agree with Wingy, a 243 is a fine piece of workmanship. Sure beats one of those mass produced, below award wages, sweatshop bikes.

[milne]

:twisted: Evil Imperial :twisted:

http://www.evilbikes.com/images/frames/imperial/black_3_frontpage.jpg

Check out there website for more:
http://www.evilbikes.com/imperial/imp.htm

[S.]

cough cough...I heard some .243 frames have bent head tubes and are pore quality Amm welli think you should pm Daver he seemed to know a lot about .243 frames and yesi think they do have poor quality control. They are not bent head tubes but more out of line... :)

I haven't seen or heard of a single one that's at all out of line or "bent". Including my own.

I heard some .243 frames have bent head tubes and are pore quality.

I heard they all do/are.

Please tell me you're joking... poor quality? Come across a lot of broken ones have ya? Or maybe you just dislike having geometry that actually works well?

As for bent head tubes, anyone spouting crap like that (and believing it) has to be mentally retarded. Even $100 Kmart bikes manage to get that right.

[wingy]

Onya S. And still no evidence.

[Daver]

OK. I am just repeating what i have been told by several staffers of a local shop who ride/sell and are sponsored by .243. They can remain nameless unless they really need to speak out. So far they have had 2 frames that they have sold where the headtube is not square to the seatube- eg on an angle to the side. One of these frames is owned by a prominent member of farkin.

In terms of poor quality have a look at the welding. Yes for the money it is fine, but compared to other hardtails it is pretty poor. The geometry is fine, and the deign is fine. Nothing new, just cheap strong frame at a good price.

[k8ttle d8 k8n]

hardtails r sick. to choose 1 u need to know how u gonna use it. jump/street hardtails generally have steeper head angles, very low stand over height, very short wheelbase and made of cro-mo or thick aluminium. heavy as all shit = strong as all shit. eg .234 racing, orange hitman. north-shore hardtails have slack as all shit angles and long wheelbases. eg norco north-shore hardtail line. 4x r in between the others. biggest diff is that they are heaps lighter. eg orange misisle.

find ur flow, know how u wonna ride, test ride as many bikes as possible. its all bout gettin the bike set up 4 u

[Rik]

Sure beats one of those mass produced, below award wages, sweatshop bikes.
Even though it is one itself?

[wingy]

In terms of poor quality have a look at the welding. Yes for the money it is fine, but compared to other hardtails it is pretty poor. The geometry is fine, and the deign is fine. Nothing new, just cheap strong frame at a good price.[/quote]

Welds? Your kiddin. Poor compared to which other hardtails? Those in the "I'll just mortgage my house again" category? Cheap and strong with good geometry and at a good price, I'm sold.

[DYJK]

Please tell me you're joking... poor quality?
Whati think he means by poor quality is poor quality control...correct me if i am wrong chris.. cause .243 are excellent quality.

[S.]

OK. I am just repeating what i have been told by several staffers of a local shop who ride/sell and are sponsored by .243. They can remain nameless unless they really need to speak out. So far they have had 2 frames that they have sold where the headtube is not square to the seatube- eg on an angle to the side. One of these frames is owned by a prominent member of farkin.

In terms of poor quality have a look at the welding. Yes for the money it is fine, but compared to other hardtails it is pretty poor. The geometry is fine, and the deign is fine. Nothing new, just cheap strong frame at a good price.

Fair enough on the first point, but I'll wait till I see evidence.

Welding? Mine are pretty straight and clean... remember this is steel, it doesn't look the same as aluminium welds.

[Daver]

Please tell me you're joking... poor quality?


poor quality conrtol would be better.

.. cause .243 are excellent quality.

yeah, and huffy's are great DH bikes. Face the facts, they are not excellent quality. But they are cheap, massproduced, overpopular and solid. Sortof like No frills ice confection (.243) to Sarah Lee triple swirl(balfa, 24, banshee, orange, intense, BMW).

[fiddler]

Even though it is one itself?

Okay, I stand corrected...... it's just not mass produced. However, I still can't see anything wrong with my bike and I still think it's a great bike to ride.

OK. I am just repeating what i have been told by several staffers of a local shop who ride/sell and are sponsored by .243. They can remain nameless unless they really need to speak out.

Why not..... haven't they got the minerals.

I heard they all do/are.
So far they have had 2 frames that they have sold where the headtube is not square

Okay, so let me get this straight..... Daver, your initial comment that all 243 frames are out of alignment is based on the fact that 2 frames (out of all they have sold) purchased from the local bike shop are faulty. On the otherhand 4 riders on this forum haven't had a problem with theirs and I'm pretty sure Dhr208 is happy with his. Sorry mate, the numbers don't add up.

[Daver]

So far they have had 2 frames that they have sold where the headtube is not square

Okay, so let me get this straight..... Daver, your initial comment that all 243 frames are out of alignment is based on the fact that 2 frames (out of all they have sold) purchased from the local bike shop are faulty. On the otherhand 4 riders on this forum haven't had a problem with theirs and I'm pretty sure Dhr208 is happy with his. Sorry mate, the numbers don't add up.

sorry, i meant just the headtubes. Thats without counting the headset, bb, dropout and discmount facing necessary on others. 2 frames out of the ones sold have been faulty, but what about the ones on "sponsorship" deals? they haven't been great to say the least.

[fiddler]

I heard some .243 frames have bent head tubes

Hang on..... this whole discussion has been about the fact that it was suggested that all 243 headtubes were out of alignment. No one mentioned anything about BB. Headsets or Disc brakes. Are your sure the problems aren't with the parts people are putting on their bikes and not the frames themselves[/quote]

[Daver]

I heard they all do/are.

great to see people misquoting.

[fiddler]

Daver, who did I misquote?

The point of my reference was to show that this discussion started from a comment relating to head tubes, not other parts of the frame as previously stated.

Perhaps you should not pay so much attention to what you hear but instead what you know.

[parallax]

great to see people misquoting.
Bring three and sixpence, we're going to a dance. :lol:

[intense jonoooo]

yeah, and huffy's are great DH bikes. Face the facts, they are not excellent quality. But they are cheap, massproduced, overpopular and solid. Sortof like No frills ice confection (.243) to Sarah Lee triple swirl(balfa, 24, banshee, orange, intense, BMW).


wat about Sarah Lee Triple Swirl being like a Cannondale Chase :cry:

[MrCove]

for quality you've got to be looking to BC built bikes
Rocky Flow is nice, more trial/fr, very similar to the Cove Stiffee FR

for strength to weight you cannot get better than a Stiffee SL/Foreplay, superb quality, and the best geometry going.

anyone who is after a Minuteman may be disapointed as Balfa have gone bust

http://www.farkin.net/image.php?image=eb9fb4b4c81ed124519b967be836060b.j pg

[Byatch]

you'll never guess what i'm going to say.....

nah, i can't talk yet, i haven't got it. my frame is still in the mail. i'll comment further when i have 1st hand evidence. (damn, i wish more ppl took that approach to giving advice)

[DYJK]

sorry, i meant just the headtubes. Thats without counting the headset
mmm...i had a talk to someone who ownes a .243 and they said that the top and the bottom of the head tube wasn't flat therefore the headset didnt sit in it straight making the forks feel out of line...all he did to fix it was shave it with one of those screwiy thingos and i was flat...

[Daver]

sorry, i meant just the headtubes. Thats without counting the headset
mmm...i had a talk to someone who ownes a .243 and they said that the top and the bottom of the head tube wasn't flat therefore the headset didnt sit in it straight making the forks feel out of line...all he did to fix it was shave it with one of those screwiy thingos and i was flat...

Lots of frames have that issue when they come from the factory- all it needs is just to be faced (ie flattened). You get the same problems with disc mounts and BB shells too, but from experience the .243s are pretty bad- you would expect it to require only a minor bit of work from the factory, not major like a lot of .243s have.

The problems that have been noticed is that the headtube itself is not square to the seattube, putting the forks out of line regardless of the actual facing that is done.

[naz]

dave dont even get me started on how full of shit u are. not in regards to just this thread but everything. i.e
daver "i did the 15fter at lizard rock"
naz "ye mate ur full of shit again"
DH_MTB "tell him i was there that day he hasnt hit shit"
*after alot of arguing*
daver "oh no i ment the 6ft ns drop afterwards"
come on dave uv dug urself a deep enough grave.
and its not coz i own a 243 mines sweet, the headtube isnt fucked and im runnin 888r, lets go for a DH run, oh how does thredbo sound, and see how bad it holds up :)

[Troy]

Hey i sorry to say guys but all ur frames suk balls lol, i got a kona cowan and it kicks tha shit out of all that cromo shit. so suks to u all, u want a real bike get a cowan

[wingy]

Another blisteringly intelligent commentary. Thanks Troy, I think I will sell my 243 and buy a Cowan.

[Daver]

dave ... :)

Don't shoot the messenger. I have only seen your .243 once, i'm just repeating what i have been told by BA staffers. None of what i have said is from personal experience- i am only saying what i have been told. My opinions are formed by what i have been told and have seen (in relation to bikes within the shop). The only .243 i have seen apart from this has been yours, and to be honest that is only what i have seen.

All this racing talk... you could beat me on a crate :wink:

[S.]

Hey i sorry to say guys but all ur frames suk balls lol, i got a kona cowan and it kicks tha shit out of all that cromo shit. so suks to u all, u want a real bike get a cowan

Yeah, let's all go and buy a bike that has crap geometry, like oh, say, a Kona anything. Cromo shit? You mean it's crap to have a bike that isn't GUARANTEED to break under normal use? Or maybe to have one that won't wear through the chainstays if it happens to scrape something that's made of material harder than cotton?

Next time I go to buy a "real bike", I'll get a Cowan. Honest.

[Rik]

hay guyz i fink u shud all bye a bike dat haz a big brand name on da stika, dey is coola dan everfink else.

[naz]

Hey i sorry to say guys but all ur frames suk balls lol, i got a kona cowan and it kicks tha shit out of all that cromo shit. so suks to u all, u want a real bike get a cowan

retarded post of the day!! congradulations :)

[nickz]

Enough bickering already, just get a Rumble and be done with this madness. Finally this thing has XT hydros on both ends!http://www.farkin.net/forums/album_thumbnail.php?pic_id=9561 (http://www.farkin.net/forums/album_pic.php?pic_id=9561)

[MUNGUS]

just get a yeti dj. wont be dispointed

[Demo Dave]

Nothing wrong with the .243's. Mine just needed the head tube faced, not a major problem. Doubt frames with missaligned tubes would be released as quality control is pretty good.

[Rik]

Heh, just spend $1000+ on a frame, it's the easy way to do things.

[Dim]

i got a giant ATX 870 frame and its light and strong