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AdrenalineJunkie
08-08-2004, 06:06 PM
I used to live over in China, the group i rode there with are a mix of foreingers and local chinese who ride mtn and road, organising races and social rides. Anyway, a Beligian named Siegfried who is the cheif organiser hit a kid during training, he emailed us all about the experience. Its somewhat long-winded, but it shows a very different culture to ours and i hope it opens some eyes.

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Seeing as so many people have asked me about what happened in Jiayuguan, and how the bike trip from Gansu to Sichuan was, I take the liberty to tell you now in this mass mailing.

On July 22, three days before our triathlon race, Gilles, Patrik M. and I had been visiting some scenic Great Wall spots near Jiayuguan by bike, when we decided to head back to the hotel. While we did not really sprint back home, the high altitude and good road conditions did make us real fast. So it was that we were cruising at 55 kph when all of a sudden a child jumped out in the middle of our side of the road, with his back to us. We were still about 20m meters away, so Patrik and I shouted to make him aware of our presence. At this moment I made the decision to pass in between the child and the side of the road, which was bordered by a concrete ditch. This turned out to be a very painful and costly decision.

The moment we shouted, the child reacted by running back towards the side of the road, still not looking in our direction. Seeing as I was already going into that direction at high speed, I did not have the time or opportunity to change my direction, and realised that the boy and I were going to crash full on. And so it happened, I crashed right with my front wheel right into the kid.

This chain of events took no more than 1 second.

At the moment of impact blackness surrounded me.

Next thing I knew I was flying in the air (Patrik told me I flew 3-4 meters in the air), very conscious of being worried that I might fall badly and break something. When I came down heavily on the left side of my torso, I did not hear any crack, and felt some sort of relief. I immediately got up, using a few swear words that I shall not repeat, and checked to see if I had any wounds on my arms. I looked at the boy who was lying motionless halfway into the ditch (he had been thrown into this ditch, head first...), and then realised that I had best lie down. Which I did, putting up my head against my helmet, which did not seem too damaged (these things save your life!).

By this time Patrik and Gilles had stopped and gone back to look at the kid; and family members and by-standers had also come over. While Patrik tried to tell the family that it was best to get the boy to hospital as quickly as possible, they told him not to move him. Instead, an ambulance was called. The ambulance arrived about 10 minutes later, and I got in together with the father's boy, who was holding his son in his arms. The mother also got into the car.

To my shock the ambulance had NOTHING in terms of first aid; the only thing they the nurse did was open the door, close it, and sit on a stool during the whole ride to the hospital! The boy was not well: he had blood in his nose and his mouth, but we would later know that this was from a cut on his mouth and his nose.

In the hospital I basically cleaned up myself and sterilized my own wounds (very painful!), while the doctor and nurses saw to the boy. After a while they did a brain scan, and this proved to be okay. Later they must have done an x-ray, because they confirmed that nothing had been broken.

The boy's mouth needed a few stitches, and they told me that only time would tell how bad the boy was doing. It seemed that either his liver or an organ next to it had been ruptured a little, which caused the intestines to be blocked. As a result the boy could not go to the toilet, which somehow prevented the doctors from making a thorough diagnosis.

I must say that I was pretty astounded by the lack of knowledge or ways of treatment of this (locally well-known) hospital and its medical staff. At times I felt that they did not know much more about treating people than I, a 90% ignoramus.

After a while I left the hospital together with Gilles and Patrik, suffering pretty badly from a bunch of bruised hips and a very unhappy organ on the left side of my body.

The next day I visited the boy, who was doing a bit better. Luckily the parents (migrant Muslim workers) did not blame me as such, and had decided that a careless son and a strange foreigner on a superfast bike crossing paths are one of those things in life that you cannot foresee.

What happened in the next two days was also a cultural awakening on my part. To make a very long and complicated short, I was held largely resposible for the accident. This was not only because the stronger road user is always held responsible for 50% to begin with, but also because I broke a Chinese traffic law that states that bicycles are not allowed to cycle faster than 15 kph!!! Yes, my dear Mobsters, we are all violators of a Chinese traffic law!

Anyway, I ended up paying a substantial sum of money so that I could leave Jiayuguan after the race (July 25) and not have to worry about this afterwards. This may sound strange and harsh to you; the problem was that while I tried to take responsibility for the boy's full recovery (seeing to it that all hospital costs were paid until his full recovery, and then some), it was the local people (race organisers, traffic police and the parents of the family too) who felt that the payment of a lump sum would settle the matter, and avoid complications.

You can also rest assured that hospital costs for the first two days were grossly exaggerated, as is common in China when a foreigner is involved. They said that two days of hospital treatment (what treatment, he was only getting an infusion!) the costs had mounted to 7000 RMB!! Anyway, after long discussions the people involved convinced me that this was the right thing to do according to them, so I paid the sum, and they were satisfied.

When I met the father of the boy the next day, he told me that during the afternoon of the day before - probably an hour after I had paid the money - the boy's intestines had become unblocked, and that he was feeling much better! I was very happy to hear that nature, even though it might have been given a helping hand by cash, had decided to get the boy on his way to recovery, and that he would recocer completely.

junior
08-08-2004, 06:12 PM
good story :)
15km/h WTF

ajay
08-08-2004, 06:35 PM
good story :)
15km/h WTF

55kph wasnt it?

junior
08-08-2004, 06:37 PM
good story :)
15km/h WTF

55kph wasnt it?

no he said they have a 15km/h bike speed limit in china :?

spuddy
08-08-2004, 06:39 PM
He hit him about 55k but the limit was 15k.

Go comprehension!

LTR
08-08-2004, 06:46 PM
So, how much in Australia Dollars did you have to pay? Nothing extroadinary?

ajay
08-08-2004, 07:01 PM
good story :)
15km/h WTF

55kph wasnt it?

no he said they have a 15km/h bike speed limit in china :?

Yep, my bad - i having bad night :cry:

shmity
08-08-2004, 07:10 PM
My old school has a campus in china which students spend 5 weeks in during yr 9 (you may have heard of a few of the dickheads leaving their names on tombs and the great wall). During one of the groups trips out on bikes around nanjing, one of the guys was hit by a police car. In the end the SCHOOL had to pay the POLICE a substantial sum of money to stop the guy in question being deported and/or fined. Go figure...

AdrenalineJunkie
10-08-2004, 11:08 AM
lol, money talks! there's 7 RMB (local chinese currency) to 1AUD, so yer, he had to pay a bit. What worries me tho is the compentence of the medical staff.....

johnny
10-08-2004, 01:30 PM
Oh man, I know what you mean. I've spent a wee bit of time in China, and intend on spending a wee bit more too. It's the same as anywhere in Sth E. Asia (barring Singapore and possibly Hong Kong), DON'T GO UNLESS YOU HAVE THE BEST TRAVEL INSURANCE AND GET THE HELL OUT OF THERE AS SOON AS YOUR INJURIES ALLOW YOU!!

My old boss had a jet ski collision in Thailand years ago. He was unconcious with a punctured lung, my mate followed him into the hospital and surgery (no mask of sterilisation procedure) and watched them cut a hole in his side, rip a tube out of a dead local who'd died of pneumonia and jam it straight into his lung without even so much as an alcahol swab. As soon as the hierachy heard of this (that afternoon) they flew a doc form Singapore up in time to find him in a coma from some form of tropical encaphalitis (sp?) which heats and swells the brain. They took him back to base in Malaysia and had to cut open his skull to relieve the swelling and if memory serves, they may have even removed his right lung due to infection. He now looks like he has been axed in the head and shark attacked on his ribs, well that's what he tells everyone anyway :lol:

In poverty stricken countries, money is more important than life to some. It's a fucked up deal when 5% of the world control 80% of it's resources...... :?

nitwit
10-08-2004, 02:44 PM
Scary story, makes travelling all that more exciting :lol: , the medical teams over there sound pretty shitty. Your story aswell johnny, pretty fucked world we live in. :roll:
What you said at the end of your post eats me away every time i think about it. :evil: :evil: REVOLOUTION

junior
10-08-2004, 02:47 PM
lol, money talks! there's 7 RMB (local chinese currency) to 1AUD, so yer, he had to pay a bit. What worries me tho is the compentence of the medical staff.....

he had to pay $1000 :shock:

sawtell
10-08-2004, 02:57 PM
whoza, that was a big first post, but very good story by the time i got through it..lol
dont have much else to say, it has all been said :P

AdrenalineJunkie
12-08-2004, 07:17 PM
yep Grommet, 1000 (one thousand) dollars.. that's probably the doctors' wages for a good few months. I find it amuzing that soon after Siegfried paid he gets a call from the father saying his son's made a miricle (sp?) recovery.... as my dad says (both my folks still live there) there's never a dull moment.

dylma
12-08-2004, 07:48 PM
wack. man if a kid got in my way and i had a crash like that, i hope the kid would be dead so he wouldnt have to be tortured by loud, swearing mouth directed straight at him. :evil: :evil:

nah, just jokes. im not that crazy :wink: :wink: