View Full Version : THE REAL DEAL WITH MT BULLER _____MUST READ
CrookS
04-10-2004, 04:18 PM
Hey all just found out there is a buller volunteer recruit program. Rewards are generous (1 day work= 1 day lift pass) Accomadation taken care of while volunteering to. The more help the bigger better and more of.
SO COME ON GUYS AND GALS..... MT BULLER NEEDS YOU
GOTO http://www.vicmtb.com/buller/ to register and be kept in the loop
Awwwww... I'd love to do that. Unfortunately it clashes with my bloody university exams. :(
Sort of have to make exams a bit of a priority. :wink:
DJ_Robbie
04-10-2004, 05:48 PM
i think i'll pass, my reasoning being
*Mt Buller were doing MTB lift passes for around the $20 reigon last year
*If you work for say 4 hours per day (slackers) that equates to $5 per hour (half what i get for my easy as job back home)
*In my Hi-Lux it is approximately a tank of petrol each way, at todays
prices that =$100 petrol
I would prefer to get 4 people in my car, cutting it back to 25 bucks each petrol, pay the 20 dollar lift ticket and have the entire day to ride without having to build tracks. If the pay was better and in money, not lift tickets i would consider it but from looking at that deal it doesnt seem worth it, might just be me though :wink:
I'm officialy sick of being under age. I've been trying to find out how to go about helping out with track work at buller and now I'm not able to!
DJ_robbie. People don't usually do track work for any reward so a free lift ticket, food and accomodation is a pretty good reward. I doubt the summer program at buller could afford to actually pay people in cash or offer more generous rewards for working on the tracks.
Again...I hate being underage.
edit: on the vicMTB site it says the first weekend of work will be the 17th-18th...that's a sunday and a Monday, is the site correct?
I doubt the summer program at buller could afford to actually pay people in cash or offer more generous rewards for working on the tracks.
and if they did, lift tickets would probably be more than $20 a day :roll:
DJ_Robbie
04-10-2004, 06:23 PM
yeah fair enough simo, my main concearn is petrol, if i can get some people that are willing to split transport costs with me, providing im doing nothing i could be up for it, and in your case simo, what are the chances of getting someone like me to sign as your guardian for the 2 days?
just a thought.
I always get mates to sign as guardians at races so that wouldn't bea real problem. The thing that'll probably stop me from going this time around is the dates are listed as the 17th and 18th, the 18th's a monday and also my exams start on November 1st.
Get out there and help guys, we don't wanna lose Buller!
Kreaky
04-10-2004, 09:00 PM
and this is one of the bad things about living in Adelaide!! ahhh well i will just ride it in January and have to pay!!
oh and, Robbie, its free accommodation while there so u don't have to travel back and forth. hope that bit of info makes you help out, coz in my books, if u can somehow make time to help out, you should!
DJ_Robbie
04-10-2004, 09:06 PM
yeah i guess thats true, however the term accomodation is used very loosely, with 20+ MTB riders sleeping in the one location i reckon you'd get about as much shut eye as if you were sleeping on a catcus.
I'd be pretty interested in helping out when school finishes for me (anytime after Nov 12th)
wendel
04-10-2004, 09:16 PM
so we get free accomodation as long as we want if we keep working ? or do we have a certain time we can stay
Kreaky
04-10-2004, 09:42 PM
don't ask me, go to that link, or ask crooks!
They must have updated that page this morning
The first weekend will be October 23 - 24 (Not October 17 - 18 as previously stated), with work continuing every weekend until the trails are ready. If you are interested please register below to receive e-mail updates.
also says opens Boxing Day & Tickets will be $35
CrookS
05-10-2004, 12:17 PM
Robbie whats your deal mate. You are adding up the price of fuel and wages for volunteering your help to get a cool riding place going..
I think you might have to get a new car or get a tune if its using so much fuel. DH scene is going to die if people dont pull there finger out and help.
P.S
ANYONE that has been fucking with the gates at you yangs (ripping them out) better watch out for a few angry racers (not nubey little 'freeriders") cos if it keeps happening the ranger is shutting it all down. you guys being responsible for it
CrookS
05-10-2004, 12:22 PM
CORRECT it OPENS boxing day the track has to be fixed prior to the opening. As for the accomadation you would have to speak with the organisers but accomadation being at a private lodge i would say no only weekends. But give ty a call on (03)98172917 to confirm
are the working weekends going to be every weekend after october 23rd untill it opens? If so I'll be in apart from exam weeks etc.
I'm up for the first weekend if I can organise some transport.
captainmorgan
05-10-2004, 02:37 PM
Just an idea. Maybe Buller could organise a bus to transport volunteers to Buller? If they could get a bus load of people, then a lot of work could be done. What do you guys think?
if they were that desperate they would probably just shut the trails down for the season.
In order to run a bus tehy would have to:
contact volnteers and find a suitable time to depart the city/buller.
organise a bus (or more) with drivers and all the associated paperwork
get volunteers to pay for the bus
etc. etc.
With the legal age to work on the trails being 18 (or under+guardian) they are assuming that this age group will be able to arrange their own transport or drive themselves, which makes sence.
If anyone's going up on the weekend of the 23rd for either the day or the weekend please let me know via pm please (you will have to be willing to sign the waiver of a 17 year old tho).
Ill chip in pety money or drive up some people on some of the saturdays... I only have a corolla so it wont be comfy! id prefer to car pool with someone else.
pm me if you accept my proposel.
tyron
05-10-2004, 05:24 PM
are the working weekends going to be every weekend after October 23rd until it opens? If so I'll be in apart from exam weeks etc.
I'm up for the first weekend if I can organize some transport.
The plan is to start on the 23rd (providing snow has melted) and go until finished or boxing day. The accommodation is for w/ends only @ this stage but there maybe some organized w/days were you will be able to stay there also. The more support we get the better it will be for everybody. i will be taking the work van up every w/end and I'm sure i will have some friends who can take people as well, just email VicMtb to sort out transport also. Ty
DJ_Robbie
06-10-2004, 06:23 PM
Robbie whats your deal mate. You are adding up the price of fuel and wages for volunteering your help to get a cool riding place going..
I think you might have to get a new car or get a tune if its using so much fuel. DH scene is going to die if people dont pull there finger out and help.
Its too true mate, my car does have a carby problem and is using heaps too much fuel, i need to get it fixed but dont have the money. Plus my bike aint suitable for riding downhill so it really isnt even going to be directly affecting me weather the track is going hence why im selling my DJ bike to get something more DH capable, oh, and i never said i wasnt going, im all for helping out but if you'se dont want my up there because i express my opinion let me know.
Cheers
Rob
floody
06-10-2004, 06:47 PM
So Mt Buller is a non-profit resort now is it? The volunteers get a cut from the lift and accomodation proceeds over summer?
No?
So then its just cheap labor.
sorry what?! You expect to get payed for doing trail work? Do you work on local DH trails or jump tracks at all? You shouldn't be looking for a financial reward for helping out. As I said before, them putting you up, giving you a ticket and providing the 2 hour enviro. course is more than enough for Buller to do.
The reward will come in the form of being part of getting a summer program a Buller back on it's feet.
sorry what?! You expect to get payed for doing trail work? Do you work on local DH trails or jump tracks at all? You shouldn't be looking for a financial reward for helping out. As I said before, them putting you up, giving you a ticket and providing the 2 hour enviro. course is more than enough for Buller to do.
The reward will come in the form of being part of getting a summer program a Buller back on it's feet.
Whilst I'm more than willing to do trail work (especially at such a primo spot), Floody does make a good point - we ARE paying for the privilege of riding there, and they wouldn't be undergoing expansions as they are, if they weren't making a profit out of it. As such, it's not outrageous to expect them to cover the COSTS of trail maintenance themselves - why should we pay AND do the work? However at least they ARE giving you something in payment (even if it's not cash, and not much)...
floody
06-10-2004, 08:39 PM
sorry what?! You expect to get payed for doing trail work? Do you work on local DH trails or jump tracks at all? You shouldn't be looking for a financial reward for helping out. As I said before, them putting you up, giving you a ticket and providing the 2 hour enviro. course is more than enough for Buller to do.
The reward will come in the form of being part of getting a summer program a Buller back on it's feet.
Ok, last I knew it was a mountain resort, not your average bush reserve, and it was run on a profit basis.
There is a big difference between doing the work on a bunch of trails so tour, acoomodation, and event management companies can make money off the facility for another season of the year, as opposed to maintaining the trails I ride on for free every week of the year.
And obviously there is a big difference in outlay vs profit when they get a bunch of people to come up and do it for a minimal cost (accomodation), as opposed to paying workers to rebuild the trails.
Buller Ski Lifts in conjunction with VicMtb...
What's Vicmtb's cut in this, out of interest? Are they providing hire equipment or something once the resort is back on its feet? Sales via the club spurs "pro shop" ?
I'm not dissing it. Its a good thing, do some trail work and get to ride/stay up there, seems like an ok deal.And, since bike parks are a fantastic way to avoid land use and trail access issues for downhillers and freeriders to go flat out, its also a very good thing to help get it happening.
But its not like helping out a mate building dirtjumps, or maintaining your local trails, it is helping a company/group of companies to provide a commercial service which will make them money - saying it isn't is ignoring reality.
them putting you up, giving you a ticket and providing the 2 hour enviro. course is more than enough for Buller to do.
The reward will come in the form of being part of getting a summer program a Buller back on it's feet.
Well said mate, id go even without the tix and bed...!
Buller is the best that mountain biking has to offer so we should everything we can to keep it running...
They pushed back the first weekend again, now it's Oct 30 - 31
floody, if thats you're attitude I'm sure the rest of the volunteers won't miss you company.
CrookS
08-10-2004, 02:00 PM
t has a good point. im sure there will be enough people that arent whingers and sooks to help out. floody you go ride your non profit park im sure you know of a good one. number one this isnt the salvos mtb park its mt buller park vicmtb has put alot of time and money to making this work if you dont like it dont come.
robbie i dont mind your opinion it just wasnt very relevant.
t has a good point. im sure there will be enough people that arent whingers and sooks to help out. floody you go ride your non profit park im sure you know of a good one. number one this isnt the salvos mtb park its mt buller park vicmtb has put alot of time and money to making this work if you dont like it dont come.
robbie i dont mind your opinion it just wasnt very relevant.
No, actually I think people like floody will go and ride the Buller FOR-profit park, and PAY for the privilege of having great tracks. You know, pay... it's what you do when you expect something to be given in return, such as oh, I don't know, track maintenance?
floody
08-10-2004, 07:41 PM
No, actually I think people like floody will go and ride the Buller FOR-profit park, and PAY for the privilege of having great tracks. You know, pay... it's what you do when you expect something to be given in return, such as oh, I don't know, track maintenance?
BANG! Hit it right on the head.
DJ_Robbie
09-10-2004, 02:54 PM
Robbie whats your deal mate. You are adding up the price of fuel and wages for volunteering your help to get a cool riding place going..
I think you might have to get a new car or get a tune if its using so much fuel. DH scene is going to die if people dont pull there finger out and help.
Its too true mate, my car does have a carby problem and is using heaps too much fuel, i need to get it fixed but dont have the money. Plus my bike aint suitable for riding downhill so it really isnt even going to be directly affecting me weather the track is going hence why im selling my DJ bike to get something more DH capable, oh, and i never said i wasnt going, im all for helping out but if you'se dont want my up there because i express my opinion let me know.
Cheers
Rob
not relevent???
Mate, i simply read your post and answered all the things you said, i backed up your opinion that my car had issues, you should be considering getting volunteers a priveledge, not a right, if you are knocking back volunteers that are willing to help because they are merely creating conversation about a topic you started maybe you are the one with the bad attitude, and we just CANT have people like that on the DH scene. :shock:
its good to see people are pulling their finger out, i was more than willing to as well, despite the fact i realistically wasnt even going to be able to ride the friggin track, i think that was more than enough support from my perspective, i reckon saying the reasons why i didnt think going up was a good idea is better put out in the open before i was to get up there (im not going anymore) than get there and say "this sucks, im not gettin paid, im going home" if the issues were resolved now, it would enable people to decide wheather they wanted to be there before they left. For me I believe some of the people organising this whole thing are the ones with the attidudes and the ones showing predudice before they even see us work.
But hey, im over it, i'll just keep working at my truly volunteer built trails for the benefit of local riders on my suitable bike AND get to ride them for free too!
google.com defines relevent as:
"(rel-le-vant) Relevant means to be directly related to whatever is the focus of one’s attention. "
you be the judge :wink:
jjperko
10-10-2004, 10:31 AM
They might not get many people of its on the 30-31 of Oct. Same days as you Yang's. :?
CrookS
11-10-2004, 09:03 AM
robbie i must say u can put up an arguement but i have one thing to say the scne i support is the race scene. seeya if i seeya
rhyno
12-10-2004, 12:51 PM
i assume you can attend one of those days. I work on the sat but will be there on the sat night to work sunday as long as they are cool with that - might even bring the girlfriend (dubbed the 'rock wench' by 'Banshee' Ben, after carting rocks for another trail)
Go ride thredbo, you pay your money and you dont have to worry about the track maintenance, or anything else. I think you guys have lost the plot on this one.
yeah, no worries, your shout is it? you're a good bloke!
what about doing your bit to keep the sport thriving?
dee-lux
12-10-2004, 07:37 PM
Sure it's a long way for most, but after some of my local trails/jumps were demolished (for housing development) I'd be glad to help out. Had a road trip to Buller last year and it was awesome, just think how cool it'd be with all those DH freaks in the same place overnight! Party on... :twisted:
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