deore, xt and saint levers. any diffrence?

[Timmy Bee]

hey guys. just a quick question here.

i have been told that there is no diffrence in the deore and xt hydro levers, and i was wondering if this was true, and if it was also true with the saint levers. and if saint calipers would work with xt levers.

cheers

Timmy.

[sockman]

i believe u can run xt levers with saint calipers not sure bout the rest..

[Daver]

They are all the same design, just useing varying colours (possibly materials). They will work with all Shimano Hydraulic brakes, so in answer to the question, You can use Deore/XT/Saint brakes on Deore/LX/Hone/XT/Saint/XTR brakes.

[Timmy Bee]

yay.

thanks guys.

[j5ive]

Ya all the same, and all work together.

The LX and below use a different bushing I just realised though. Notworth the extra money in any case though as three year old deores Ihave used have not developed any play.

[Juls]

XT and Saint Levers, Hoses and Calipers are 100% Identical.

The only difference between XT and Saint Brakes, are the size of the disks.

Thats it.. there is no other difference other than color.

That being said, if you have XT 2004 Brakes, with 8" disks.. you have Saint brakes.

as for brake levers, I am running Deore levers with 04 XT calipers on 8" XT 03 6 bolt disks with adapters.

Bought it all new cost me around $400 the pair.

you can run any of the brake levers from Deore to XTR.. doesn't matter..
the hose will vary from caliper to caliper though.

LX/Hone same hose, XT/Saint Same hose, XTR has it's own hose.
I'm not sure which hose the Deore use, I think same as LX? maybe.

regards
Juls

[Techno Destructo]

In a slightly different direction, I wonder how many of those Saint dual-control levers they've been selling?

At least, how many who actually do real FR, DH or DJ, have bought those things? :p

[Juls]

I don't know really.. the pro's seem to like them,
but they are sponsored to run them.

I bought a pair of XT dual controls..
looked at them
then sold them..

decided I couldn't be assed learning again..
and I didn't like the feel of them, felt too flimsy, like they where going to move while riding.

but i never actually put it on and tried to use them.

For X/C I think I could stomach it.. not to keen to trust myself hurtling down a hill though

Kind regards
Juls

[craigb]

can someone corect me if im wrong and i may be. lx and id asume saint are only 2 piston calipers and xt and xtr are 4 piston?

[wombat]

can someone corect me if im wrong and i may be. lx and id asume saint are only 2 piston calipers and xt and xtr are 4 piston?
No, XT were 4 piston up until 2004 but are now twin, and XTR have always been twin (I think?).

[tommo_nip]

also are 2004 xt 4pots better than 2005 xt's?

i know they have 2 more pistons but just wondering if they chainegd anythign otheer than the piston count?

[Juls]

There is no 2004 4 piston that I know of,

The 2004/05 is 2 piston, same as saint.

the XT 2003 4 pots where fantastic, however there is no power advantage
over the 2004 2 pots, and in honesty while the 4 pots should have more modulation than the 2 Pots.. they don't.

the 2003 4 Pots are Bolted Together each side of the caliper,
while the 2004 2 pot is 1 Piece Cast design, which means it's stiffer and less
flex, offering more power. Amazingly the 2 pots have awesome modulation. You would not be disapointed at all.

Personally I prefer the new 2 pot over the old Grimeca System 8 based 4 pot design.

Nothing wrong with the 2003 XT's but, still awesome brakes.

BTW XTR have NEVER been 4 pot.

Shimano has been making there XT groupset more like a burly Semi X/C Semi FR groupset for many years now. while LX and XTR are still the primary X/C Group. XT Bridges the gap into Saint while LX bridges the gap into the Hone Groupset.

Regards
Juls