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.:Alan:.
02-02-2005, 05:43 PM
hey

ive been getting into dirt jumpin and i was wondering if its worth getting a hard tail for it. ive got a 03 atomik at the moment and have been doing it on that but is it worth getting a hard tail for it? is it any better or easyer on a hard tail or should i just stick with the atomik?

thanks

kizza
02-02-2005, 06:47 PM
I find it more easy to jump on a HT. Althought i have mates that do just as well on a stinky or atomik.

I would suggest it, but thats jsut personal preferance. Will you be doing anything else becides DJing? Because if your doing DH as well, then the atomik will be more forgiving.

That said, you can jsut as easily do DH on a HT as well as a dual sus. I do DH on a morphine, and find its great for learing to pick lines, and generally getting a lot smoother. But i also have a dedicitated DJ bike, so... it all depends on if you will be using the bike for anythgin else.
If you are... maybe a shore hardtail? or a 243. with a set of Z150's or somthing that will also take a bit of abuse for DH and trails.

anyway, hope to have helped.

Kieran

mountain_man(1)
02-02-2005, 06:51 PM
Well i have heard from nermours people that a hardtail is the way to go as it is more responsive and dosent absorb the lips so in other words it is easyer to jump overall. Im pretty shore this topic has been covered and recovered. But one last thing is that can u actually aford to get a new bike?

.:Alan:.
02-02-2005, 07:46 PM
ok and im also thinking of maybe using it for some skateparks riding, and ive thought about getting a P2 or a Porter, would these be ok for both and does anyone no the price of the iron horse porter?

thanks

skankin_pirate
02-02-2005, 08:24 PM
hey if your into dj ing, a hardtail helps, and if u like dh ing or interested in try, theres nothing wrong with the hardtail for the local dh tracks . . thats said, ive got a kona stuff which is perfectly fit for both, 1200 $ ! is got new Dirt Jumper 2's on it which are awesome for dirt jumping, well if ur interested pm me or add me to msn stay_rude_@hotmail.com

but other wise go a hardtail, there awesome fun . ..

kizza
02-02-2005, 08:41 PM
Yes both the Porter and the P2 would eb able to handle skate parks and DJ's, there was a broken Porter on here a little while ago, but i think that might have been a manafacturing defect.

Maybe also look at the STP series, i know a lot of people have them, but they are good value, or even a P1 with Upgraded forks?

Also some of the norco range looks the good...the 125, 250 and the 604 Street would be very nice, and depending on your price range perhaps shipping over a keewee stealth from NZ (torpedo7.com).

Another option is to look second hand... but whatever floats you boat really :) .

Kieran

Shintaro
02-02-2005, 09:11 PM
I am in the same situation...... about 12 months ago I bought my second hand Kona Stinky Dee-Lux for DH & DJ. It's great for both, but not perfect for Dj's. I'm keen for a hardtail Dj bike (but I am in no rush, I just want one);

I'm thinking about a Keewee Stealth import for $1700. This looks like good value, but I don't have that much money at the moment and am interested in cheaper alternatives for a quality hardtail Dj bike. I know this is such a broad topic, but rather than start another thread on hardtails for DJ bike I'm adding to this.

I know there is alot of value in buying a 2nd hand bike, with a certain amount of risk included with the saving. Buying a complete 2nd hand bike is a good way to save money on a bike you can't afford to buy new.

I am interested to know what people's experiences are with 2nd hand frames & building a bike up to jumpable specs.

Is this a way to save money (2nd hand frame / forks, mixed with new components)? Or are package deals such as the Keewee Stealth to competitive to beat?

Or simply more convinient if you desire a different frame (and swap exisitng parts)?

kizza
03-02-2005, 12:31 AM
Shintaro: My current DJ ride was a mix of Second hand a New. I found that i was a good way to get what I wanted, but still have some cashola left over.

I ended up geting a second hand frame, cranks, bb, seatpost. All of which were in MINT condition. You just have to be paintent and a great condition frame will come up at the right price. Thats what i'v found anyway.

I ended up buyitn a new wheel set, because i decided that i wanted 24", so what was new, and a few other things, stem, seat. I used the forks form a previous bike (norco 125) and a spare headset that wasnt being used.

This is the beast im talking about ( http://forums.farkin.net/showthread.php?t=24638 )
and all up she cost me $1400 give or take $50. Although this price does not include the forks, headset, seat, bars, grips, because I had them lying around from other rides and what not.

lavas: What you could do is search for a New / Used DJ frame, and trhen just swap componentry over.
You may have to buy a few things, depending on like if the bb is euro or BMX, seatpost size, etc...
But if you research the frame you could match things up so that all you have to do is swap it all over. This would be a much less expencive option, and then you would know the condition of the frame (If new) and you are using your components.
This would also allow you to look at more expencive frames, thanks to using your parts.

Sorry for the rant fellas, its late so also sorry for the spelling.

Kieran