Music Observation

[\m/ Moshboy \m/]

Why is that whenever you watch a MT'Bike, or any other extreme sport style dvd for that matter, the music accompanying it in most cases is very average to say the least??? These guys are out there pushing the limits, how about having music that reflects that. In my opinion there is only one style that meets that criteria and that is \m/ METAL \m/. I'm talking the real shit too, the likes of: Vital Remains, Lost Horizon, Children of Bodom, The Crown, Behemoth etc. I know they are probably trying to increase sales, but for me they would be better off with No music. Which is why in most instances I turn the volume down. That's my $0.02 worth anyway \m/

What does everyone else think \m/

\m/ Moshboy \m/

[Rik]

I think it's very subjective, and any sort of elitism in regards to musical taste is just a load of cockpulling.
For every song you don't like, there'll be people that like it. Deal with it, or show us how to do better.

[Ryan]

I hate the music you like, therefore you are wrong.

[andrew]

metal is for weiners and small children. i hate you and the bands you like

[protecon]

I Like Angelina Jolie!
Do You Like Angelina Jolie?

[Elbo]

I hate the music you like, therefore you are wrong.

lol, gold.. I hate metal but i can see what Moshboy means by having metal alongside an 'extreme' video. Classical wouldn't suit i don't think.

[nhd]

i hate those wankers that horn everything \m/, what a toss.

oh yeah that was ruffff!! \m/ FUCK YEAH......

[zids]

i hate metal, and im damn happy they dont play that crap, because then there would be alot of people muting it, including me!

[konasaurus]

I hate people that Hate metal .....

Bodom Pride

this is for you nhd

\m/\m/\m/\m/\m/\m/\m/\m/\m/\m/\m/\m/\m/\m/\m/\m/\m/\m/\m/\m/\m/\m/\m/\m/\m/\m/\m/\m/\m/\m/\m/\m/\m/\m/\m/\m/\m/\m/\m/\m/\m/\m/\m/\m/\m/\m/\m/\m/\m/\m/\m/\m/\m/\m/\m/\m/

[cornflake]

I hate people that Hate metal .....

Bodom Pride

this is for you nhd

\m/\m/\m/\m/\m/\m/\m/\m/\m/\m/\m/\m/\m/\m/\m/\m/\m/\m/\m/\m/\m/\m/\m/\m/\m/\m/\m/\m/\m/\m/\m/\m/\m/\m/\m/\m/\m/\m/\m/\m/\m/\m/\m/\m/\m/\m/\m/\m/\m/\m/\m/\m/\m/\m/\m/\m/

the avatar says it all

i hate it. heavy metal is for goths, kids who reckon they're hardcore, and......ummm.....welll.....umm.....goths?

[Pete J]

i hate those wankers that horn everything \m/, what a toss.

oh yeah that was ruffff!! \m/ FUCK YEAH......

http://www.expeditiondoc.ca/photos/mcbride/metal%20head.jpg

[Grip]

^^^^^^^^^^^ Hey! Look what I just found in my arse!^^^^^^^^^^




I hate the music you like, therefore you are wrong.
Yeah? Well I love that you're wrong, therefore I hate the music you like.



Definitely in the running, nay, the final even, for the lamest thread ever.

[Rik]

i hate it. heavy metal is for goths, kids who reckon they're hardcore, and......ummm.....welll.....umm.....goths?Ignorant just a bit?

[zids]

\m/ wow look at me im cool, its a style of music evryone, get over it, i hate it, but im not gonna get in a fight about it! still, i must say cornfalke raises a very good, and true point! - people who want to be harcore, i met a guy once who told me offspring was heavy metal, man did he think he was hard! this thread is pointless! like what you will - i dont care!

[Techno Destructo]

http://www.expeditiondoc.ca/photos/mcbride/metal%20head.jpg
Kinda looks like Johnny!

[Pete J]

Just to let everyone know, that dude isn't me!
I'm not that hardcore!!!!!

[cheese]

I Like Angelina Jolie!
Do You Like Angelina Jolie?

She has enormous lips!

[scratchy]

Here is an idea.
Somedays I hate metal.
Somedays I hate rap.
Somedays I hate homegrown Aussie bands.

So if they made a DVD and used the language selection audio to have different music on different layers, you could customise what music you wanted to listen to, they cold dub the voice, commentary etc over the top.

The 2 flaws I see is that royalities to bands would make it unviable.
You could never get all different style of music to match the rhythm of different sections of the vid.

Maybe the boys at Blackphoenix could....

But then Josh would kill me twice for the edititing nightmare!

[tomass]

they need to stop putting that punk crap and more thrash/ old school metal like Pantera and Early metallica

[RCOH]

Go make a video then put whatever damn music you want on it.

[Jaz]

I Like Angelina Jolie!
Do You Like Angelina Jolie?
She has enormous lips!

And very nice hair!

Music for vids has to fit the vid... you can go through 100's of songs before you find the "right" one, and even then there will be people who loved it and those who hated it... if you were making a hucks0r3 d0rps0re film, go for whatever music you feel is best... if not, leave it up to the creator - its their damn vid!

[Juls]

Thrashy, metal crap does not in any way reflect what mountain biking is really about. It horrible.. and a majority of MTB'kers hate it. (for that reason there is quite a few shockingly horrible mtb vids on the market)

leave it for motocross. Go learn how to ride a bike, instead of dreaming of having a motor.

[johnny]

So many great quotes in the one thread:

any sort of elitism in regards to musical taste is just a load of cockpulling.......... I hate the music you like, therefore you are wrong........i hate those wankers that horn everything............. Definitely in the running, nay, the final even, for the lamest thread ever.......Thrashy, metal crap does not in any way reflect what mountain biking is really about. It horrible.. and a majority of MTB'kers hate it...........Go make a video then put whatever damn music you want on it.



But there were two that when read together, bothered me:

Hey! Look what I just found in my arse........Kinda looks like Johnny!

Umm, DuuuuuUUUUUde??!!! :eek: :confused:

Anyway, I've got a MUCH bigger bulge in pants than that cranker! :rolleyes: :D

[CHEWY]

Wow. What a shit thread.
Just because you don't like a style of music does not make it crap.
That makes you ignorant.
The only crap music is crap music.

[ajay]

Wow. What a shit thread.
Just because you don't like a style of music does not make it crap.
That makes you ignorant.
The only crap music is crap music.

umm? doesnt that make you a hypocrit? A bit Ignorant maybe? :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

[ajay]

Thrashy, metal crap does not in any way reflect what mountain biking is really about.

So tell me, what is mtb realy about?

I'll tell you

Mountain bike is about what ever the fuck you want it to be!

[naz]

Hey! Look what I just found in my arse........Kinda looks like Johnny!
I've got a MUCH bigger bulge in pants than that cranker!

:eek: :confused:

and that picture POO STANCE!!!!!!

[S.]

Thrashy, metal crap does not in any way reflect what mountain biking is really about. It horrible.. and a majority of MTB'kers hate it. (for that reason there is quite a few shockingly horrible mtb vids on the market)

leave it for motocross. Go learn how to ride a bike, instead of dreaming of having a motor.

I'm glad we have an authority on "what mountain biking is really about" here, so that we can learn all about what music accurately "reflects what mountain biking is really about", as well as what's "horrible" and what's not.

And just out of curiosity, what IS mountain biking really about? I always thought it was about riding and having fun, seems to be more like "what social group am I trying to belong to" at the moment.

[Dane]

I was very dissapointed with kranked 5 when i learnt that the wiggles weren't on it. imho i think they are what mtb is all about. therefore hi five is only for bmx.

[Rik]

IMO many parallels can be drawn between metal and MTB. The roots in the 70's, found its feet in the 80's and powered on to be really strong in the 90's, with technology playing a huge part in it nowadays, and spreading out to cover all sorts of horizons. Participants are white middle class males of the mid-late teens onwards, with of course the "outsiders" coming along to have their fun too. Young, energetic, can be aggressive, you can compare the two fairly easily through my eyes.

Says a bogan metalhead who just went to a kickarse rock show, and is now listening to dub. All music is good in its own way, there'll always be lovers of certain genres, as well as haters. To get on the attack and blast a filmmaker for making what they want to make is a bit rich, and considering the target market, it seems fair that they do what they do.

[Mahoney_007]

lol, gold.. I hate metal but i can see what Moshboy means by having metal alongside an 'extreme' video. Classical wouldn't suit i don't think.

2 words Carmina Burana. Or check out any of Apocalyptica's stuff (especially their cover songs) And there is many many more that would easily suit some clean as footage. Or/and, an opening sequence with the sunlight peering over the mountains, birds chirping, water flowing and then some nasty arse biker plowing down the country side.....I need a freaking camera!

Personally Im glad to see so many metal haters, stops it becoming popular and thus being a constant thorn in my side during the day on commercial radio. I wish the Nando's chicken would take Ben Lee's guitar and smash it over a pole \m/ \m/ :D See and I almost avoided the words hate and commercial tripe shit in the same sentence. lol

Oh and with the music for videos and the lets jump on the hate train......soft punk blows balls, rap doesnt work and drum and bass dont even get me started. hehe

[and1]

I Like Angelina Jolie!
Do You Like Angelina Jolie?

Shes got big lips!

[CHEWY]

umm? doesnt that make you a hypocrit? A bit Ignorant maybe? :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

Crap quality wise..
ie, manufactured music.

[johnny]

If I ever get to make a video, I'm going to sing Amazing Grace into the mic as I'm filming!

[ajay]

If I ever get to make a video, I'm going to sing Amazing Grace into the mic as I'm filming!

fuck johnny, you never cease to crack me up! haha

[ajay]

Crap quality wise..
ie, manufactured music.

It's still a very subjective topic - ie the masses buy this "manufactured" music, so technically, music being an art form, it is good music (to the people that buy it anyway)

[dylma]

i dont mind the heavy metal, as long as its not the whole time of the movie. every now and then is good, like it can get you amped up, but too much is just brain dead material.

[Pete J]

I think there should be more actual mountain music in videos, stuff like yodelling or John Denver singing that rocky mountain high song!
Dudes in lederhosen yodelling their asses off would be funny, or a Julie Andrews type spinning around singing 'the hills are alive with the sound of mtbs'!!!


Seriously though, the background music doesn't really worry me. Just as long as it isn't Linkin Smack or Limp Bikkies or Good Chocolate or any of those teenie pop-rock type bands.
I wouldn't mind hearing some old school metal like Iron Maidens 'Run to the hills' or something by Kraftwerk or old JB's, anything that channel V wouldn't play.
I liked 'The Collective' for it's track selection because it was so different from the usual mtb vid style.

[Juls]

I'm glad we have an authority on "what mountain biking is really about" here, so that we can learn all about what music accurately "reflects what mountain biking is really about", as well as what's "horrible" and what's not.

And just out of curiosity, what IS mountain biking really about? I always thought it was about riding and having fun, seems to be more like "what social group am I trying to belong to" at the moment.

LOL :D

I was Kidding...
MTB is only about having fun nothing else, (doesn't mean that all mtbkers get along and agree with each other though) I do find it difficult to find a connection between riding a MTB and Heavy rock/punk metal music..

unless your Bender, doesn't seem to really fit :(
I know I'm no bender.. I can admit to that :D
Bring on more movies like NWD5 and Collective, both IMO are well selected music for the tone of the film and footage.

[Dicky]

I Like Angelina Jolie!
Do You Like Angelina Jolie?I like your avatar.

[Caine]

I dont like your bands but i do like most fourms of rock(especally PUNK)

[zids]

all hail punk! all hail offspring! all hail rock!

[Jacko Wacko]

I wouldn't give a shit if my friends hated the music i like.
just do what you want and be your self when it comes to stuff like this!
(now that statement was punk)

[donthucktoflat]

FUCK AUTHORITY! now THAT was really punk!

anywaho, all of you punk bitches (myself included) need top listen to more sex pistols, ramones, jilted john, radio birdman etc etc etc.. and school their asses back intot eh old school where all the action is!



and Caine, i believe your sig is meant to read "drink, drank, drunk, punk"

[Jacko Wacko]

Children of Bodom suck balls! "worst band ever"

Ramones rock... pinhead is the best song

[roasted]

Children of Bodom suck balls! "worst band ever"

Ramones rock... pinhead is the best song

psshhhhh... CHildren of Bodom WOULD be good if they werent oversynthed (shudder)
grindcore and old school metal for life!

[Rik]

The "fantasy" aspect of the keyboard overuse is what gives them their uniqueness... And that's one thing that was mentioned in this thread, the monotony of some metal soundtracks. Variety is the spice of curries, and life :)

[roasted]

yes, but a band like sayyy..... rhapsody manages to achieve that same effect in a completely unobtrusive manner.


ahh well, I see what you mean. COB's guitarist is a nutbar.

[sawtell]

my bike has 'metal' in it.... (looking for rock on smilie thing. .i have it somewhere.)

[maynard j]

everyone seems to be forgetting tool, the masters of music. iam sure that many of you will agree and that tool should put their music to mtb vids

[(ride)]

a good song runs along the lines of hillary duff and britney spears and kelly clarkson

every chander_mate video is accompanied by an awsome soundtrak by one of these artists

lol

[Dicky]

warning: post contains blatant stereotyping

mention deathmetal and I think "COOOOKIEEEEEEEEEEEE!!! UMNUMNUMNUM..."

I'm not a fan of 'music' that sounds like you're driving through an industrial area at 200km/h with your head out the window - or has lyrics along the lines of "give me a fluffy bunny, so that I may simultaneously sodomise it and disembowel it with a rusty spoon.''

but hey, if someone else does like it, fair enough. Sort of.

heavy shit has a place in bike video soundtracks - but it's only one style of music amongst many.

a bike (or any action sports / extreme sports / insert other marketing term here) video filled with thrash metal comes across as "omgz0r we r so fully sik for liek doin these wikkid dropz yo do u want my autograff live fast die young run red lights and piss off ppl"

whereas a more diverse soundtrack - with some heavy stuff, some not so heavy stuff, even some chilled stuff (e.g. the Collective) seems more to say "hey, this is our sport and our lives - sure it can be dangerous and crazy, but it's just normal to us. There is some soul to this as well. We're not Pepsi Max adrenaline junkies, tripping out on caffeine and media spotlights."

At work, any bike video with too much thrash in it gets taken out of the DVD player by our manager. He's a roadie, and by his own admission has never been to a concert in his life - but it's a fair call, crush/kill/destroy music doesn't make for a comfortable retail environment.


Moshboy, if you don't like bike video soundtracks:
- Install DVD drive in computer
- Run DVD program muted
- select music as you wish from media player program of choice
- give a little more respect to the fact that most of us do like them

problem solved.

[konasaurus]

Every MTB video should contain at least 3 Kyuss songs ...

[Oddjob]

"Worst thread ever"

http://www.animationartgallery.com/images/SIM/SIMP953.jpg

[Wayno]

the avatar says it all

i hate it. heavy metal is for goths, kids who reckon they're hardcore, and......ummm.....welll.....umm.....goths?

You have a narrow mind please open it up, I love Metal, 80's glam metal, punk and Hardcore punk I will even listen classical music or Blues music and when I say Blues I mean People like John Lee Hooker and BB. King and also some types of rap music.
But if I never here another crappy fucking techno song on an MTB DVD again it will be a good day

[Wayno]

Thrashy, metal crap does not in any way reflect what mountain biking is really about. It horrible.. and a majority of MTB'kers hate it. (for that reason there is quite a few shockingly horrible mtb vids on the market)

leave it for motocross. Go learn how to ride a bike, instead of dreaming of having a motor.

I'm a MTB'ker and I don't hate it

[RCOH]

I love Metal, 80's glam metal, punk and Hardcore punk

I think you and I would get along quite well!! :cool:

[floody]

I hate people that Hate metal .....

Sodom Pride




Tell me, how would the collective be as a video if they replaced it with a bunch of howling/growling Finnish metal'ers belting out unpronounceable nonsense in a homage to their greatest games of dungeons and dragons?

Shit is how it would be.

You can't make blanket statements like "all mtb videos should have gh4rdc0re sick-arse eurotrash metal".

[Pete J]

...with a bunch of howling/growling Finnish metal'ers belting out unpronounceable nonsense...



Hey man, dont knock Finns!!!!
So what if our metal is crap!!
At least they aren't singing about lederhosen or some other shite!!! ;)

[roasted]

They dont make shit music, and people blatantly stereotyping metal listeners ( and music listeners in general) need to be slapped about the face. Its all subjective, so arguing that some kind of music is more "cool for mtb riders" is completely counterproductive.

IF you want metal in a bike vid, try to get a copy of RTTH, it has simmu borgir and Metallica on it.

goes really well, too.

[Fin75]

I think people should just be a bit more open minded and realise that good music can come from all genres.............


Except R 'n' B.

[floody]

Yep, what music works is entirely down to the video and the viewer, nobody can say this or that is the one style of music for mtb videos.

I was only kidding around about the finnish metallers, just a couple had been mentioned, thats all..

My Blanket Statement:
Every now and then someone comes on and says basically the same thing the thread-starter did here. Normally its just that someone gets to 15 or so and hears something different to the norm of their parents stuff- add in some teenage angstiness and all of a sudden you have your "metal blah blah metal is where its at [insert semi popular not quite mainstream acts with weird names often from europe] are teh best !!!111onewtf666".
'tis my theory.