the best dh forks

[Vicious_Fishes]

well, we all have our preferences, and after seeing he crap in the broken fox 40's thread, i thought id pose the question, what do you think are the best dh forks made, and why? i like boxxers myself, hell, rennie and hill and peat can't be all that wrong can they?

[Woodsie]

hell, rennie and hill and peat can't be all that wrong can they?

I think that we can all agree that the best DH forks are the brand new factory forks that your sponsors give you! ;)

[Vicious_Fishes]

uh, not everybody has sponsorshit dude, soz sponsorSHIP :p

[TomMc]

***boxxers***

[lotec]

05 dorados or fox 40s, id take the dorados cause i have a set of 03s and love em and its made me biased :D

[DWNHLR01]

MRD X-works would be the best, but they never got brought into aus...I suppose it all comes back to rider preference

[trevallynbikerdude]

well, we all have our preferences, and after seeing he crap in the broken fox 40's thread, i thought id pose the question, what do you think are the best dh forks made, and why? i like boxxers myself, hell, rennie and hill and peat can't be all that wrong can they?


hmm i'd have to say monsters actually, as the question was what do you think the best dh forks made are?

i'll take that as in maufactured as in strong and can take abuse while still being reasnoble (i.e none of the bender forks..... i.e risse)

i'd have to say monsters... - thats just me beigna smartass :P


richo

[lotec]

MRD X-works would be the best, but they never got brought into aus...I suppose it all comes back to rider preference
they did get bought into aus and they are the biggest heaps of shit ever, everyone who owned a set went to extreme lengths to try to get rid of that damn spv SHIT, theres a reason they went back to TPC+ for 05 :)

[DWNHLR01]

I knew that

[Woodsie]

MRD X-works would be the best, but they never got brought into aus...I suppose it all comes back to rider preference

I heard that they where hell heavy because they had problems getting the carbon strong enough for an 8" fork. I think that next year Manitou are abandoning the Dorados and making a more conventional alloy fork.

I do love my 05 Dorado DH forks. Bewdiful! :D

[Daver]

MRD X-works would be the best, but they never got brought into aus...I suppose it all comes back to rider preference

There are a few pairs around (1 at my LBS), and to be honest, they're shit. For such an expensive fork, the performance is woeful, and they're not light at all.

I reckon the 06 Boxxer World Cup will be the best DH fork ever made- it weighs nothing, and has a really good axle setup. Until then, i'll take a Fox 40, and if weight wasn't an issue i'd run an 02 Monster T (nearly the same weight as an 05 Dorado, but stiffer and stronger).

[Vicious_Fishes]

im a bit :confused: with 06 boxxers, they look pretty nice, and air is good for decreasing weight, and i know that boxxers are a pure dh fork, but say somebody took them for the occaisonal huck, im wondering what would happen seeing as they are air and everything, of course anbody thats used pikes or reba's would know that rs have got this whole 'air' thing pretty bloody right :rolleyes:

[Daver]

im a bit :confused: with 06 boxxers, they look pretty nice, and air is good for decreasing weight, and i know that boxxers are a pure dh fork, but say somebody took them for the occaisonal huck, im wondering what would happen seeing as they are air and everything, of course anbody thats used pikes or reba's would know that rs have got this whole 'air' thing pretty bloody right :rolleyes:

Air will be fine, the only problem could be the seals (remember the old Air psylos?). For the occasional huck race forks are fine, but if you're doing a lot of hucking it would be smarter to run a bigger burlier fork...

[Vicious_Fishes]

yeah, thats what i was thinking, the seals, :confused: anybody got sum extra info on the 06's?

[GoingDHfast]

Can you say AVALANCHE? (http://www.ifremer.fr/drogm/Realisation/Vulgar/Avalanches/avalanche.gif)

[LTR]

2002 Monster T, Ti Spring one side, Air Cartridge other side. 8.5lbs-ish. 888 territory.

[scottmeister]

Kayaba forks off my RM250. USD. 300mm travel.

In theory.

[udi]

2002 Monster T, Ti Spring one side, Air Cartridge other side. 8.5lbs-ish. 888 territory.

No, it's not.
888 without stem weighs 7.38lbs. That's well over 500g lighter.

As for which DH fork is best,
Fox 40's break
888's break
and Boxxers plain suck

so based on these important factors, i'd go an RST. :p

[ajay]

As for which DH fork is best,
Fox 40's break
888's break
and Boxxers plain suck

so based on these important factors, i'd go an RST. :p

haha...

that sums up alot of the shit on this forum :D

[freeride_ac]

Can you say AVALANCHE? (http://www.ifremer.fr/drogm/Realisation/Vulgar/Avalanches/avalanche.gif)

that was fucking random!!! :D

[ManiCC]

MRD X-works would be the best, but they never got brought into aus

I know a guy who has these though.


these have carbon fibre (carbon fibre stops viabrations).
200mm travel, still look awesome.

[scottmeister]

http://www.marzocchi.com/System/9061/shiver50-s.jpg

Damn right.

[ManiCC]

Damn right.


ooooooooh sexy!

[lotec]

I know a guy who has these though.


these have carbon fibre (carbon fibre stops viabrations).
200mm travel, still look awesome.
but the internals are shit, normal dorados have carbon too, the legs arnt pure carbon though, alluminium wrapped in carbon so theres not really gonna be much loss in vibrations anyway and yes, they look awesome

[ManiCC]

but the internals are shit, normal dorados have carbon too, the legs arnt pure carbon though, alluminium wrapped in carbon so theres not really gonna be much loss in vibrations anyway and yes, they look awesome

thats pretty cheapo, just gettin alluminium and wrapping it in carbon, but even if small pieces of carbon fibre eg. on the forks, they would stop atleast some vibration. yes, they look awesome.

http://www.specialized.com/bc/techlab_zertz.jsp?a=b

[Regan]

Ah... Yes they are!!! The 05 Dorado and MRD X Works uppers are solid carbon with alloy clamping surfaces pressed over.

[ManiCC]

So they are solid carbon, but just with alloy clamping surfaces pressed over. ohhhh rightyo.

[intense jonoooo]

hmm i'd have to say monsters actually, as the question was what do you think the best dh forks made are?

i'll take that as in maufactured as in strong and can take abuse while still being reasnoble (i.e none of the bender forks..... i.e risse)

i'd have to say monsters... - thats just me beigna smartass :P


richo


i thought monstas were hucking forks....

isnt they why they made em so u can huck to flat?

i didnt think bender was a good DH rider...

[LTR]

i thought monstas were hucking forks....

isnt they why they made em so u can huck to flat?

i didnt think bender was a good DH rider...
Nah mate. They are made big and burly, but the internals are also tops. Sure they are heavy, but there is no reason why you cant race them. Hucking to flat is for bmxers and trials riders.

Bender came in the top 5 elite riders in America, last year.

[scottmeister]

The new monsters use the same damping cartridges as the Marzocchi Shiver motocross forks. Can't be too bad. *see gold bling forks above.

[ridemotocross]

Apparently....... the 06 boxxers are not as far away as we think they are, word says that some Sydney stores will be getting their first shipment in soon

but don't quote me on that, im not 100%

[Daver]

i thought monstas were hucking forks....

isnt they why they made em so u can huck to flat?

i didnt think bender was a good DH rider...

But those Monsters are lighter than your Dorados...

[DirtFix]

I think there is 3 main players here and they would be:
*Manitou Dorado
*Marzocchi 888RC
*Rock Shox boxxer
In that order aswell.

[rone]

I agree. If you can't afford Dorito's, then get the triple 8's. 80% of the performance for 50% of the price.

[ajay]

Apparently....... the 06 boxxers are not as far away as we think they are, word says that some Sydney stores will be getting their first shipment in soon

but don't quote me on that, im not 100%

when the rock shox importer gets them in, i would imagine that all stores in Australia will be able to get them at the same time, not just sydney stores...

But they do look trick - they might go up front of my new steed...

[Busty]

so based on these important factors, i'd go an RST. :p

Man I run RST Sigma's.....with some custom internal mods and oil weights they work pretty damn f**king good hey.

[DirtFix]

Man I run RST Sigma's.....with some customer internal mods and oil weights they work pretty damn f**king good hey.
"customer internal mods." does that mean done by the customer??!! :p

[ManiCC]

I agree. If you can't afford Dorito's, then get the triple 8's. 80% of the performance for 50% of the price.


Dorito's ??????? :confused: :confused:

[scottmeister]

Dorito's ??????? :confused: :confused:

Dorito=Dorado

[ManiCC]

Dorito=Dorado

ohhhhhhhhhhhh, for a minute thier i thought he was talking about food.

[Busty]

"customer internal mods." does that mean done by the customer??!! :p

LOL you dip shyt!

[Drop in Drew]

I think 888's are too tall for a dh fork, I also think inverted forks are rubbish too, i'm yet to find a set that doesn't flex like a russian gymnist.
Boxxers are good race forks due to their weight and geometry but are lacking in that "marzocchi plushness". Dorados are over priced and only just brush the levels of plushness marzocchi offers.
Fox forks are extremely well made with quality internals, the only ones i have felt are davers and due to my weight i'm unable to judge their feel. I don't like the size or the legs but they don't seem to bring any weight.
Manufactures need to stop puttin plastic in their dh forks cas i'm sick of forks losing their feel due to internal damage.
I know i love my fox rc's bar the rattle. I also like my o3 boxxers but they have had alot of mods to make them feel as good as they do.
So imo i think u should wait for 06 boxxers. My opinion might change if i get a ride of fox 40's set up for a 70kg rider.

[Vicious_Fishes]

well, that is prob iwth 888's, so tall.......
boxxers are a bit too flexy, but still ok
40s are too light for size
dorado's are ridiculously priced/need servicing 24/7 from what iv heard
monsters are fr

id have 888's for more hucking, boxxers for pure dh or maybe bpxxer rides for a bit more abuse

[dylma]

just wondering, what about the 170mm 888RC's. ive never used either 888RC but from reading a bit, the 200mm seem to sit too tall, but are plush. just a suggestion.

[shane bolger]

i think this thread would better if people who actually ride these forks spoke out.... statements like "fox 40s are too light for size....." are a bit shit. nice one man, have u ever ridden a pair of them? do forks have too measure up to a size to weight ratio or something?

form an opinion after you have ridden the forks, not from what the magazines and web sites say.

[Daver]

well, that is prob iwth 888's, so tall.......
boxxers are a bit too flexy, but still ok
40s are too light for size
dorado's are ridiculously priced/need servicing 24/7 from what iv heard
monsters are fr

id have 888's for more hucking, boxxers for pure dh or maybe bpxxer rides for a bit more abuse

How many of those forks have you ridden?

[shane bolger]

How many of those forks have you ridden?
owned! nice too see some one else thinking the same way...

[lotec]

dorado's need servicing 24/7 from what iv heard
thats a load of crap, i choose to lube mine every ride to have them running their absolute best, i would do this with any fork though, if i wanted to i could not service them for a year, but they would end up feeling like crap, just like any other fork. and your only supposed to change the oil twice a year in a dorado, for other forks its a lot more often if you want them running their best.

[udi]

if i wanted to i could not service them for a year, but they would end up feeling like crap, just like any other fork. and your only supposed to change the oil twice a year in a dorado, for other forks its a lot more often if you want them running their best.

You are so stupid, it's not even funny.

Just because your dorito needs relubing every other day, it's no reason to throw the same blanket statement over every other fork.

You'll find that most marzocchi forks will have service intervals so long that your dorito would probably have gone stale in half that time. ;)

[scottmeister]

You are so stupid, it's not even funny.

Just because your dorito needs relubing every other day, it's no reason to throw the same blanket statement over every other fork.

You'll find that most marzocchi forks will have service intervals so long that your dorito would probably have gone stale in half that time. ;)

Or you could just take care of your forks at your own chosen intervals, to keep them running their best, like lotec said? I know I'd prefer to have a Dorado over any Zocchi, and keep it nice and lubed and cared for... ;)

[udi]

That wasn't my point.

Shouldn't you be making some custom rotors or something...

[camday]

What are peoples thoughts on the Manitou Stance Kingpin 170mm?
I may be getting a set soon on a specialized big hit.

[daanhilla]

well, that is prob iwth 888's, so tall.......
boxxers are a bit too flexy, but still ok
40s are too light for size
dorado's are ridiculously priced/need servicing 24/7 from what iv heard
monsters are fr

id have 888's for more hucking, boxxers for pure dh or maybe bpxxer rides for a bit more abuse


888's are the go for strength and performance for dh and huckin but only with flat crowns (why marzocchi didnt make em with em to start with has got me...) they're just too farkin tall without em.

[Vicious_Fishes]

i got kingy;s now, advice: ditch the air, completely deflate it, seals on stances are bad, ask just about anyone

[stinkyfreak]

i'd have to go with the 40's my m8 has some and they r soo nice!!

[six9man]

What are peoples thoughts on the Manitou Stance Kingpin 170mm?
I may be getting a set soon on a specialized big hit.

well they seem ok short term

but self destruct very quickly. seals go funny start and getting all sticky, plus u gota grease em

get the bighit but change the forks at the shop

[Rik]

Holy crap, the amount of misinformation spouted in this thead makes my head hurt.

[camday]

well they seem ok short term

but self destruct very quickly. seals go funny start and getting all sticky, plus u gota grease em

get the bighit but change the forks at the shop

cheers dude.
having a look at the bike tomorrow so I will see what they can do

[Ryan Hotdog]

id say the 2002 marzocchi jr t n super t were teh best eva. no need to replace any thing. they are teh perfect "forget bout em" forks n tehy run as good as new for years. super plush too

[ManiCC]

I heard with the dorados one of the reason that there pricey is because, you get free service after a downhill race.

[forward]

I heard that they where hell heavy because they had problems getting the carbon strong enough for an 8" fork. I think that next year Manitou are abandoning the Dorados and making a more conventional alloy fork.

I do love my 05 Dorado DH forks. Bewdiful! :D


i have MRD X-works and there mad as they weigh about the same as stock 888s only lower and better they still have spv and are fine over small bumps and the best for dh ing

[d8 dozer]

#Boxers# are great mate , I have them and there great

[Oddjob]

Can you say AVALANCHE? (http://www.ifremer.fr/drogm/Realisation/Vulgar/Avalanches/avalanche.gif)

Oh oh oh I can

http://www.avalanchedownhillracing.com/dhf8images/DHF8sm.jpg

Or wait for it

http://www.avalanchedownhillracing.com/bikefront.jpg

No I haven't ridden either the dHf 8 or the mTn 8 or 10:eek: . If I did get my hands on a set though, I would ride them to within an inch of their (and my) life, which is the important thing.

[blood scars bones glory]

i would prob go the boxxer cups or 40's ive got a pair of 04 boxxer teams which are nice but the 40's feel great look great and weigh nuthin

[stinkyfreak]

hey cam,
those forks are kinda weird but cool. i wanna steal wardy's 40's lol

[blood scars bones glory]

oh hey goober, yeh i'd definetly steal wardy's 40's mite get some for the team at the end of the year if i can get enuf dough

hows ur comp goin?

[stinkyfreak]

yeah the comp is goin mad. soo nice
wats the team like?

[blood scars bones glory]

yeh sick as havent given it any yet really the arm's still a bit sore but the brace helps a lot hopefully be sweet for nowra but i mite be takin a few b- lines lol i hope i have the money for 40's at the end of the year..i wonder if the 06 ones will be much dif to the 05

[stinkyfreak]

yeh but they might be alot more dough and the 05's are mad, so yeah id go 05's at the end of this year and maybe get them on slae or sumthin. they would be mad on the team.

[blood scars bones glory]

yeh but i rekon i mite look like a bit of a dick since im not that good but im not gonna do much else with the money lol i'd better improve my times and look a bit less of a booner but yeh at the end the 05's will be cheaper but i hope sum shops will still have them in stock and want to get rid of them for the 06's

[stinkyfreak]

yeah that would be sweet. wat u gonna do with your boxxer teams then? if u buy 40's?

[blood scars bones glory]

sell the teams to make up some of the money for the 40's... but yeh wat forks would u switch for the shermans if u had hepas of cash?

[stinkyfreak]

yeah i'd be goin the 40's aswell they are just soo sweet. i dunno maybe a set of dorados,but they got to much maintenance.

[blood scars bones glory]

yeh it seems there are a lot of issues debatable about the dorados and it looks like manitou are scrappin them so i rekon 40's are the best choice or cups its just personal preference

[stinkyfreak]

yeah i guess, but id be goin the 40's i just reckon they would give u more confidence when riding knowing u got them!!

[christoph]

I would have to say that 05 Dorados are awesome forks but i personally think some of the greatest forks going around are Boxxers. Riding models from 2000 to the current model from world cups to the race models i think there extremely reliable forks. Nice amount of travel. Im a light weight 60 kg at 5 10 i have never bottomed them out even after hucking huge and trying 15 foot drops, probably because they were set up for all my fat friends!

[Wattsy]

every single one of you little noobs should be slapped so hard, have any of you guys even ridden a fork above an rst? the info your spittin on these forks
is a load of shit, serious, get informed before you judge.
shoot the n00b

[christoph]

well then what do you think is the best dh fork mate?

[lotec]

You are so stupid, it's not even funny.

Just because your dorito needs relubing every other day, it's no reason to throw the same blanket statement over every other fork.

You'll find that most marzocchi forks will have service intervals so long that your dorito would probably have gone stale in half that time. ;)
dont need it, i choose to do it, and i would rather have a fork that i HAVE to lube every day than a fork that no matter HOW much i service it will always feel like shit :D

[and1]

well then what do you think is the best dh fork mate?

There is no "best" fork. Different forks suit different riders. I may have some crazy idea in my head thats totally wrong, BUT, in order for something to be the best it has to be better than all its competitors in all areas of performance (assuming we aren't going to take anything such as price into account because that just complicates the matter further), now I highly doubt that any of you kiddies have ridden enough DH forks to have any credibility to comment on the "best downhill fork", especially since your litteracy levels are worse than that of a chimp suffering from massive brain hemoraging.

I think the question would be better phrased as "what is the best downhill fork you have ridden for an extended period of time on an actual downhill track", at least then we could eliminate 99% of the shit talking going on in this thread.

Also can stinkyfreak and blood'n'bones, or whatever you call yourself, please take your f%^king conversations and bad spelling to PM.

[gouldena]

lol yeah true its all in the rider and what you feel comfortable riding and the level of riding your at the best downhill fork is what works for you it may be dorados of fox 40s or boxxers or what ever its the fork that will do its job and do it well.

[223_james]

Best DH fork of all time is a toss up between Supper monsters and 04 x-works dorados with the spv.

U got to love the wank factor involved in both.

who really neads 12' of travel or spv that blows up after every ride. Two top qaullity forks here.

[error_500]

Yes, I would have to say that monsters or dorados would be my pick for the best DH forks
oh and fox 40's :D

[Vicious_Fishes]

Best DH fork of all time is a toss up between Supper monsters and 04 x-works dorados with the spv.

U got to love the wank factor involved in both.

who really neads 12' of travel or spv that blows up after every ride. Two top qaullity forks here.


is that where id heard, as i said before, that dorado's need servicing 24/7? is that where i heard that from?

[Daver]

is that where id heard, as i said before, that dorado's need servicing 24/7? is that where i heard that from?

SPV doesn't blow up, but it doesn't take up small bumps.

[forward]

anyone whos bagging out x works dont know if u can set them up the spv doesent blow up and they do the job as good as any other fork iv ridden for small bumps if they blow up your too fat

[Vicious_Fishes]

ok boys n girls, anyone got sherman sliders? im thinkin of gettin a pair 2 replace my kingy's sometime in next few months, what are they like? the spv ok, considering its not supposed to bob with small amounts of hit, and if it is bad, anyway of getting rid of it and keeping rest of fork?

[benwilson1]

i think the best forks out there would be the avalanche downhill racing MTN-8.....USD forks, 48mm stancions.....only come in at about $7000


second on my list would be the avy DHF-8 MTN forks......hopefully i will get a set of these soon

[blt2ride]

Marzocchi all the way! I rode a WC Boxxer for a while, and never really liked it. Everytime I turned around the fork was leaking oil somewhere, and Rock Shox's service sucked!

I live 30 minutes from Marzocchi's US headquarters, so I can go up there to get my forks serviced or fixed as needed...however, both of my Marzocchi forks (my DH bike and my DJ bike) have never given me any problems...

[george222]

anyone whos bagging out x works dont know if u can set them up the spv doesent blow up and they do the job as good as any other fork iv ridden for small bumps if they blow up your too fat



i have a set of MRD X-works! they have never blown up they r awesome forks nearly tha best dh fork eva! as lond as u set them up properly they don'w blow up and u can set them up to take the small bumps as well.