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The AC looks pretty sick.
peachy
29-08-2003, 08:21 AM
yeh it does look like a lil hottie doesn't it :D
what was that problem the AC's, people always snapped something on them? i wonder if they have fixed that problem and beefed it up a lil bit
the DH team again looks hot, i do like that bike but its pretty disapointing there are no big changes - i was hopeing for a funky ass new paint job (althouh this doesn't really effect performance) it would still be cool.
Interesting... I'm not a fan of Giant, but me trying to be objective as possible: Those paintjobs are a bit weak.
CHEWY
29-08-2003, 08:32 AM
i like the DH painjob... but it does look just like last yrs. that AC1 would be a sweet ride providing theyve fixed the problems with the rear linkage
Gutty
29-08-2003, 08:34 AM
Bout time they put a dc fork on the AC1.
peachy
29-08-2003, 08:34 AM
Yeh, what problems DID they have with the rear linkage? didnt work? i heard something kept snaping
Gutty
29-08-2003, 09:13 AM
a few chainstays snapped that i know of.
spudz
29-08-2003, 09:28 AM
Yeah peachy the chain stays snapped as they werent parallel 1 was straight and the other was bent causing a twisting effect.This problem was fixed with the 2003 models were the chainstays are parallel.
The dh team looks sweat with that reservoir arrangment on the downtube to make it easier to adjust settings , as on the older models you have to remove linkage bolts to make adjustments.Have to keep an eye on linkage bolts as they seem to come lose.
bazza
29-08-2003, 10:25 AM
my friend has cracked his in 2 differnt places in under 2 months. hes lovin it!!!! but he knows an aircraft welder so thats at least an advantage.
spudz
29-08-2003, 10:50 AM
Hey bazza what has he snapped an ac or dh,and what year model?
Fat_Ride
29-08-2003, 10:52 AM
It doesn't seem that they have beefed up the gusseting on the AC at all and now they are coming through stock with Dual crown forks..... the 2003 models came with the warning that if you put on dual crowns your warranty is void... what's the story there????????
I've had my AC2 (2003) now for about 9 months and have had no problems at all... considering the number of bikes they manufacture and ship over here to Aus of course you are going to hear of people breaking them, people break all brands bikes... it is just that there are so many more Giants riding around that the ratios of broke to not broke are going to be higher.
bighitter
29-08-2003, 11:33 AM
The DH team looks sweet as - and the new AC's look nice + with the addition of a dual crown makes them an even better freeride/trailbike.
The ac's also look like they are using different top and down tubes compared to previous years ?
Also i wouldnt mind owning one of the new NRS carbon frames - mmmmmmmm
i can't see any difference between the 03 AC frame and the 04, would of been nice if they brought back the 4 inch option on the shock mount though.
Fat_Ride
29-08-2003, 01:09 PM
That is what I think... not much difference from what i can see. I'm going to put my Dual crowns on my '03!!!!!
Yeah peachy the chain stays snapped as they werent parallel 1 was straight and the other was bent causing a twisting effect.This problem was fixed with the 2003 models were the chainstays are parallel.
The pivots were still in the same positions tho, how would assymetrical stays cause a twisting effect?
Dirt Devil
29-08-2003, 01:33 PM
It doesn't seem that they have beefed up the gusseting on the AC at all and now they are coming through stock with Dual crown forks..... the 2003 models came with the warning that if you put on dual crowns your warranty is void... what's the story there????????
Ummm, read the blurb. It says that the '04 frame has been beefed up.
Yeah peachy the chain stays snapped as they werent parallel 1 was straight and the other was bent causing a twisting effect.This problem was fixed with the 2003 models were the chainstays are parallel.
The pivots were still in the same positions tho, how would assymetrical stays cause a twisting effect?
i think the actualy construction was different but people use the assymetrical/parrallel thing as a reference to which model they are refering to.
Yeah peachy the chain stays snapped as they werent parallel 1 was straight and the other was bent causing a twisting effect.This problem was fixed with the 2003 models were the chainstays are parallel.
The pivots were still in the same positions tho, how would assymetrical stays cause a twisting effect?
Someone remind me... weren't the stays symetrical to an offset pivot point?
The most common break point that we saw was the (ill-thought-out) "dimple" on the inside of the stays... of course forming a tube this way is nice and cheap??
fastrider gus
29-08-2003, 06:10 PM
Yeah peachy the chain stays snapped as they werent parallel 1 was straight and the other was bent causing a twisting effect.This problem was fixed with the 2003 models were the chainstays are parallel.
The pivots were still in the same positions tho, how would assymetrical stays cause a twisting effect?
exactly what i was thinking..
my mate snapped his '01 when he was hopping backwards.. SNAP!! hehehe!!
You know its so like giant that the AC2, with an identicle frame wont be warrenteed with a dual crown fitted, but the ac1 comes stock with one.
Yeah peachy the chain stays snapped as they werent parallel 1 was straight and the other was bent causing a twisting effect.This problem was fixed with the 2003 models were the chainstays are parallel.
The pivots were still in the same positions tho, how would assymetrical stays cause a twisting effect?
Someone remind me... weren't the stays symetrical to an offset pivot point?
The most common break point that we saw was the (ill-thought-out) "dimple" on the inside of the stays... of course forming a tube this way is nice and cheap??
If your pivots for the stays on each side don't line up with each other the YZ axes (where the X axis is along the length of the bike, parallel with the ground), things are gonna get ugly real quick. To put it simply, you can't have pivots that are offset from the one on the other side of the bike, therefore having an assymetrical chainstay can't actually "cause" any twisting effect. Just a placebo I think.
Ride_Guy
29-08-2003, 10:12 PM
From waht i ahve seen at our "personal" giant product line up, the giants swing arms are no different, when i asked them about teh warning with DC forks on the AC frames he said that they had fixed up with the fluid forming or somthing, but it sounded like the biggest load of shite ever!!!
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