axle size of a 05 big hit

[freaken]

can anybody tell me the axle diameter of a specialized big hit, I dont have a ruler at home...is it 15mm or maybe 12mm....I am trying to put a saint derailleur on it which I think uses a 10mm axle.

[S_M_I_D_D_Y]

You will need a saint compatible back hub. ie. Saint, or hope. i dont think i have heard of any others which will work. and thats even if it will fit the frame, bighits are 10mm boltup, so it will work if u get a hub.

[lotec]

hugi and deemax will work also

[bradh]

and hadley.

[freaken]

Ok, if the Big Hit is 10mm bolt-up couldnt I put the axle from the Saint hub in the big hit hub which is 10mm or is this crazy talk....

[bradh]

short answer: no.

long answer: i doubt your stock big hit hub is a 10mm through-axle hub. it's probably qr, which could could be converted to bolt-up, or it's bolt-up already; either way, a bolt-up hub is not the same as a through-axle hub. a through-axle hub has a large, hollow axle, which is—for lack of a better description—part of the hub, and on which the bearings run; the removable through-axle then runs through (get it?) that larger axle, and hold the hub to the frame. in a bolt-up hub, the bearings run on the same axle that holds the hub to the frame, and this axle isn't removable. in short, you need a 10mm through-axle hub to be able to use the saint axle and thus the saint derailleur.

(also, fyi, and someone correct if i'm wrong, but i can't think of any exceptions to this, a through-axle hub necessarily uses cartridge bearings, whilst a bolt-up hub necessarily uses loose bearings.)

[Grip]

short answer: no.

long answer: i doubt your stock big hit hub is a 10mm through-axle hub. it's probably qr, which could could be converted to bolt-up, or it's bolt-up already; either way, a bolt-up hub is not the same as a through-axle hub. a through-axle hub has a large, hollow axle, which is—for lack of a better description—part of the hub, and on which the bearings run; the removable through-axle then runs through (get it?) that larger axle, and hold the hub to the frame. in a bolt-up hub, the bearings run on the same axle that holds the hub to the frame, and this axle isn't removable. in short, you need a 10mm through-axle hub to be able to use the saint axle and thus the saint derailleur.

(also, fyi, and someone correct if i'm wrong, but i can't think of any exceptions to this, a through-axle hub necessarily uses cartridge bearings, whilst a bolt-up hub necessarily uses loose bearings.)

Snap! Good answer, Brad and good description.

[freaken]

thanks bradh, that axes the Saint idea once and for all. If you want a Saint derailleur you need a Saint hub, if you use a Saint hub you need Saint disc brakes, etc. etc. etc.......result, total pain in the arse.
So next idea is go Sram x.9 which is not necessarily stronger than a Shimano XT, ergo, back to square one.
Any thoughts on going Sram x.9?

[sawtell]

cant you just run a saint deraliuer of your normal hanger? or am i makeing stuff up?

[S_M_I_D_D_Y]

nope. the saint attaches to the axle. not a normal hanger

[Grip]

nope. the saint attaches to the axle. not a normal hanger

hmmm... yep, wonderful.... just what the bicycle world needs... another standard.

[bradh]

thanks bradh, that axes the Saint idea once and for all. If you want a Saint derailleur you need a Saint hub, if you use a Saint hub you need Saint disc brakes, etc. etc. etc.......result, total pain in the arse.
So next idea is go Sram x.9 which is not necessarily stronger than a Shimano XT, ergo, back to square one.
Any thoughts on going Sram x.9?
no offense, but maybe you haven't been listening too closely... as has already been pointed out above, there are a number of non-saint hub options which are compatible with the saint axle/derailleur setup (hope, deemax, which is of little use since you've got a bighit, hugi, hadley...). thus, although it requires buying a new hub and rebuilding your wheel, there are plenty of options with which you can use a 6-bolt rotor and therefore keep your existing brake. two other options i forgot, which are much more affordable than say hadley or hope: tuff-neck and '05 dice hoodoo. both should work with a saint axle also.

p.s. thanks for the props jon. ;)

[freaken]

generally when people say "no offence but" it is followed by something offensive.....I was unaware of the number of rotor bolts on various hubs, now I am aware.
No offence but thanks for the help.