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wtr
01-08-2005, 05:16 PM
I just don't get it.

Why is it that most street riders these days run without a front brake???

What is it? Fashion? I mean, seriously, if you don't want to tangle up your brake cables, you can always run a hollow starnut and a longer rear cable. But WHY, take the front brake off? And if you think disc brakes are heavy, why not just stick with V???? Most of you brake power comes from the front, so why discard that power???

Captain Blake
01-08-2005, 05:18 PM
For me it's simplicity. And I hardly use a front brake.

When I had one I relied on it a fair bit, and pulled simple things like endos onto crapola.

When I go hydro I'll put a front brake on, well maybe.

look i can faceplant
01-08-2005, 05:20 PM
i have often wondered that myself i guess in some cases like pattos (patto_15) he broke his brake and caant be bothered replacing i see it as a necessity(sp) for anything other than dj and a must have for street im confused

norcorider_12
01-08-2005, 05:24 PM
but more often than not, anyone whos ridin street will most likley ride at leaste mild djs

hardtail free rider
01-08-2005, 05:30 PM
yeh originaly i was only running a back brake only because i couldnt afford a front. then i bought new ones, and bent the front lever and went back to only having a back break.

i think its mostly about not needing it. riding street/dj you never really go that fast, so a front brake is not nessesary.

but then again why wouldnt you run one? you can do cool tricks such as endo's, front wheel skids, and such.....(sarcasm)


really im not too sure, i dont because i dont need it.

demo man
01-08-2005, 05:48 PM
X-ups is i guess part of it, but like said above, you could just run a hollow starnut.

and yeah, a lot of people who street ride will probably dirt jump too, more than likely on the same bike.

i think it's mostly laziness, to be honest!

Rexy
01-08-2005, 05:49 PM
I ran back brake only for a while as my front wasnt working. I found it a really good expirience, as i learn so many rear wheel tricks while riding like that (such as ababucas). It took me out of my comfort zone and pushed me by not allowing any easy things like endos.
I really suggest any all round riders try not touching their front brake for 2 weeks or so, and see how their riding goes.

LTR
01-08-2005, 05:49 PM
Cost...........

konasaurus
01-08-2005, 06:08 PM
I simply dont want a front brake ... easy enough to understand ?

thewayitis
01-08-2005, 06:13 PM
Cost...........
Alex said it. I'm too poor.

hardtail free rider
01-08-2005, 06:15 PM
[QUOTE=Rexy]i learn so many rear wheel tricks while riding like that (such as ababucas). It took me out of my comfort zone and pushed me by not allowing any easy things like endos.QUOTE]

are you saying you cant abubca with a front brake?

Spoolin
01-08-2005, 06:21 PM
I think that it has become a fad.....

I havnt put my front brake on becuase....im lazy.
Although, I do find it easier to barspin, as you can grab the bar cleanly, and not grab the front lever.
That and I can also 'try' and turndown and not have the lever hitting my leg.

I find it hard to ride street without one though...but I think its becuase im used to a trials bike, where you rely on brakes alot.

Once I get off my bum, I will put the front brake on.

Joel O
01-08-2005, 06:30 PM
originally i ditched it when i was running m-475 brakes, they were next to useless and they weighed a ton. now i just run an xt 4-pot rear brake and i love it. it makes the front end so much cleaner and on a rigid SS bike it just adds to the simplicity. at first i kept grabbing for it when i was stopping but that was all, i'm used to it now and i dunno, i might run a front some time soon on my street bike, i might not. i don't really feel i need it on my bike for trialsy type moives because i have my trials bike for that. i found it helped a fair bit with bike control, especially on the trials bike, makes the front brake sort of a luxury. I'm rambling. The end.

I-AM-TEH-FASTEST-11
01-08-2005, 06:37 PM
who cares?

That's like asking why people ride without helmets, or run only one chainring.
It suits them and in the end it doesn't matter. I don't care, lt hem ride whatever they want...

wind ding brutha
01-08-2005, 06:39 PM
Seriously, all you townhillers and jibbers can just piss off. So sick of you all, your lame, get a BMX and some real skills. Gutter grinds just dont cut the mustard, losers...

bb7 rider
01-08-2005, 06:43 PM
total commitment when it comes to dirt jumps, no front brake= no backing out.

konasaurus
01-08-2005, 07:06 PM
Seriously, all you townhillers and jibbers can just piss off. So sick of you all, your lame, get a BMX and some real skills. Gutter grinds just dont cut the mustard, losers...


People like yourself will be the death of this sport

got any pics to show us your skill ?

125PHIL
01-08-2005, 07:35 PM
geez thats a freaken pathetic excuse to be too poor, or too lazy!

when it comes down to it with dedicated street bike with one brake, who are actually riden by dedicated street riders would be able to say, most of the time u dont need front brakes...its like bmxers, some do, but most dont!

u can ride park with out a front, it does look cleaner, it lightens a bike up a little bit, but its really not necessary. street isnt about just dropping of legdes like i see so many of u guys doing, u can be creative, yeah u can do abubacas, but u can still use ur front wheel stuff with out a brake, foot jams, and actually just having general balance! seth kimbrough, rides complete brakeless, and can do so much front end stuff....G-turns, nose tricks, aswell as all the rear end stuff with out the breaks at all! when it comes done to it, its not necessary, when u have skills!
i do ride with front brakes, as my jump bikes my 4crosser and i need it for racing etc, but i can nose manual with out it and do nose bonks and nose taps brakeless!

geez too lazy, no money.......... shakes head.....

johnny
01-08-2005, 07:52 PM
wah wah wah wah wah wah wah wah wah wah wah wah wah wah wah ...

Kleenex is your friend.

Disco
01-08-2005, 07:53 PM
Nothing to do with the fact Shimano had no option <$150 to mount a BR-M555 Direct mount caliper to Marzocchi DJ1's... So untill I managed to get one made up I had no other option (Hella no, I'm not buying another disc in the meantime!)

Michael

wtr
01-08-2005, 08:37 PM
Seriously, all you townhillers and jibbers can just piss off. So sick of you all, your lame, get a BMX and some real skills. Gutter grinds just dont cut the mustard, losers...
Fuk, if my e-balls were as big as yours I'll Ball Jam my front wheel to stop the bike.:eek:

Binaural
01-08-2005, 08:53 PM
Seriously, all you townhillers and jibbers can just piss off. So sick of you all, your lame, get a BMX and some real skills. Gutter grinds just dont cut the mustard, losers...

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Rexy
01-08-2005, 09:46 PM
Hardtail Freerider, i wasnt saying i cant ababuca with a front brake, i was more stating that while running a front brake i would just do easier tricks on the front wheel. But once i was running rear brake only, i had to look at other ways to go and started doing more skilled things such as ababucas. In my opinion running with only a rear brake for a month and then putting youre front brake back on does youre riding the world of good!

C*RISSO
02-08-2005, 03:18 PM
Fuk, if my e-balls were as big as yours I'll Ball Jam my front wheel to stop the bike.:eek:

Yeah bro tell him. Wind ding can put his ding thing in the wheel and do some street bling. street mountaining is sick. Does anyone know how to wall ride. Whenever i do it my bow legs hit the wall.

Disco
02-08-2005, 05:55 PM
Hit your SEARCH button for wall ride info.
And bow-leggedness? Maybe your E-Penis is to big to ride properly... ;)

Michael

Shaggy
02-08-2005, 06:03 PM
Seriously, all you townhillers and jibbers can just piss off. So sick of you all, your lame, get a BMX and some real skills. Gutter grinds just dont cut the mustard, losers...

man where should i start with burning that comment? ? ? ? ??
TOWNHILLERS?????...... last time i checked riding "street" isnt stairgaps on ya down hill bike. and your comment about just get a bmx man i would still be riding bmx if i could but when you do irrepairable bone damage its better to change your bike than your style. if you wanna see skill why dont you come out and ride "street with the local melburn boys" then you will see real street skill.

Bender is CRAZY
02-08-2005, 06:13 PM
hehe, kev and epa dont run front brakes

heppy
02-08-2005, 06:21 PM
If you want 2 see "real street skills" go watch some local bmx'rs

roasted
02-08-2005, 06:27 PM
I ride no brakes.

Its just a preference thing really. I dont run brakes because I hate relying on them as a crutch for my crappy street steez. also:
-simpler
-lighter
-less easy to break (as in break, not brake)
- easier to catch on barspins.

Inverted
02-08-2005, 06:39 PM
Its one less thing to worry about when your dirt jumping. I only have one hardtail so I ride street with back brake only.
Its the same with single speed, some people like it some people dont.

Shaggy
02-08-2005, 08:58 PM
mate i do ride with bmx's and so do most other street riders the subject aint about bmx tho, lets not forget who won the mtb street comp in SA a melburn rider so my previous statment about street talent coming from melburn is still relavent. im sick of street riding being percieved as stair gaps or trials its the same sport as street bmx just on a mtb, bmx's dont class street riding as launching themselves off stairs so why do mtb'ers

heppy
02-08-2005, 09:42 PM
lol yeh good job with that win, but also theres no 1 in Adelaide that street rides any where near as much as what u guys do, so u were definitly a favorite to win it.

C*RISSO
02-08-2005, 09:48 PM
I heard that second place was a Adelaide rider that barely touches a bike and third place was some dude that just came off broken ribs and was riding a mates bike because he sold his bike and didn't ride street for two months. Still did 2 clean flips. Thats what i heard happened but he was probably just bitichin. Congrates though to the melbn dude, he rode hard and was a good bloke.

LTR
03-08-2005, 01:41 PM
Congrates though to the melbn dude, he rode hard and was a good bloke.
Yep. Your talking to him, up a post! (Shaggy) ;)

toodles
03-08-2005, 01:56 PM
I really suggest any all round riders try not touching their front brake for 2 weeks or so, and see how their riding goes.

I reckon I'd live about twenty seconds without a front brake :) I can see why you might ditch the front brake on level ground at lowish speeds but for the rest of us it'd be a bit dicey.

but then again why wouldnt you run one? you can do cool tricks such as endo's, front wheel skids, and such.....(sarcasm)

I'm trying to learn to nose bonk ledges as I sidehop them. I think the brake might be a little necessary if I don't want to restrict my diet to soft foods.

Although, it's really a case of each to his own. I prefer two brakes myself but if you can ride without one the good on ya. I'd be stuffed without mine that's for sure.

C*RISSO
03-08-2005, 06:01 PM
mate i do ride with bmx's and so do most other street riders the subject aint about bmx tho, lets not forget who won the mtb street comp in SA a melburn rider so my previous statment about street talent coming from melburn is still relavent. im sick of street riding being percieved as stair gaps or trials its the same sport as street bmx just on a mtb, bmx's dont class street riding as launching themselves off stairs so why do mtb'ers

The reason there is NO REAL GOOD Adelaide jib riders is because there are no good stair gaps to hit. If we had more stair gaps we wouldn't run front breaks either. Than the Adelaide scene might be nearly as super as melburn. Although my appollo susspension does not take stairs well so maybe i would be just as crap and have square wheels.

Super T does bulk killa stair gaps.

wind ding brutha
03-08-2005, 08:17 PM
Just hucked a six stair to flat, so sick, im rad!

Captain Blake
03-08-2005, 08:22 PM
Just hucked a six stair to flat, so sick, im rad!

That's nothing, I hucked 10 stair to flat and rode away with no injuries to bike or me. I've even got pictures asshole.

PS: Right now I am bored and have nothing to contribute to this thread anymore because I have contributed earlier.

http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a396/caeottic/10.jpg

Joel O
03-08-2005, 08:28 PM
Just hucked a six stair to flat!why does that not surprise me.

Mugger
03-08-2005, 08:41 PM
Just hucked a six stair to flat, so sick, im rad!
Would you like a medal?

Where's udi medal....

wind ding brutha
03-08-2005, 08:44 PM
[QUOTE=Guardian Giant]That's nothing, I hucked 10 stair to flat and rode away with no injuries to bike or me. I've even got pictures asshole.


Thats ok but i t-barred off my stair so i looked way gooder than you do, keep trying though!

C*RISSO
03-08-2005, 09:05 PM
i did 11 stairs but i landed 10 stairs short and hit the hand rail. it was bulk killa.

wtr
04-08-2005, 12:34 AM
Hey look, I can faceplant. :eek:

Beat that, buster!

bradh
04-08-2005, 09:11 AM
why oh why did i just read all of that when i knew the thread was deteriorating...?

there's no better way to waste a few precious moments of one's life than to read some *quality* posts on farkin, is there?

McEvoy
04-08-2005, 05:35 PM
Dont get to worried mate or your'll have a heart attack

Disco
04-08-2005, 06:40 PM
Hey everyone, Let's postwhore on what was a reasonable thread! :cool:
Fuuuuuuuuuuzzzzzzzzzzzzzzyyyyyyyy!

Michael