Morewood Bikes

[Scott]

Morewood

Press release for Morewood bikes that are now available in Australia.

Check it out here (http://www.farkin.net/page.php?p=e2b28f).

[dhrules]

hey do you know how much those morewood izumu dh bikes are

[pai lei]

hey pm Kitoff he has that frame.

[Sethius]

im confused, on the site there is only one size for the HT and that medium (16") yet the thread says only small? and is it available in black or just the brown as they say on the site? and how much are they selling for anyways?

[cheese]

The bikes look great, but the article reads like it was written by a cocky asshole. "VPP/FPP/DW-linked piece of crap" Seriously, this guy calling Giant's, SC's and IH's "pieces of crap" what a fuckwit.

PS: Mabey the article should be edited.

[Rik]

Why o’ why am I riding the same crap as everyone else?’….They better pull their heads in, that's a pretty poor attitude being displayed when all they're selling is an image/attitude/brandname... because there sure isn't anything greatly unique going on with those bikes.

[tu plang]

They better pull their heads in, that's a pretty poor attitude being displayed when all they're selling is an image/attitude/brandname... because there sure isn't anything greatly unique going on with those bikes.

hahah yeah, thats a pretty humorous marketing ploy. "hey dont look like everyone on a v10, look like everyone who rides and orange instead!"

[Kitoff]

Hey all, just to clarify - the Ndiza HT is only available in one size, the 16". The Morewood website terms it a medium, not small as it says above. The frame is available in both black and brown, contrary to the Morewood site.

AND, in response to those others who don't like what they've read:

I'll pull my head in....when the riding community stops buying overly complicated, inherently flexy, noisy, expensive DH and free ride bikes with suspension systems that will be redundant in a few years. Morewood, Bling Industries and myself really DO believe that a single pivot not only works better than all the VPP style designs out there, but that they make a lot more sense with respect to weight, maintenance, stiffness and dependability.

I'm sorry if that makes me a f*#Kwit!

And something to think about for those who claim there is nothing unique going on here - What is the point in reinventing the wheel when you can simply improve upon it?

Cheers,
Cocky Arsehole.

[S.]

I'll pull my head in....when the riding community stops buying overly complicated, inherently flexy, noisy, expensive DH and free ride bikes with suspension systems that will be redundant in a few years. Morewood, Bling Industries and myself really DO believe that a single pivot not only works better than all the VPP style designs out there, but that they make a lot more sense with respect to weight, maintenance, stiffness and dependability.

I'm sorry if that makes me a f*#Kwit!

And something to think about for those who claim there is nothing unique going on here - What is the point in reinventing the wheel when you can simply improve upon it?

Cheers,
Cocky Arsehole.

Inherently flexy? You mean like long swingarms with no support other than one single pivot and a now nicely-sideloaded shock? Redundant? Kind of like VPP which has been around for ~10 years now? Overly complicated? Yeah having 4 pivots is PRETTY OVERKILL. Not like cars, motorbikes and pretty much anything else with suspension have setups equally complex (if not much moreso).

As for a singlepivot "working better" than anything else (what a lovely sweeping generalisation), I'd LOVE to see some actual physics to back that up... then call Mr Newton at Westminster Abbey and inform him that he was wrong on 3 counts.

And when you make comments like this:
"Don’t believe the hype is the Morewood message – and so they build the bikes that will still be working when the latest and greatest VPP/FPP/DW-linked piece of crap is nothing more than a flogged out heap of flex and bearings making more noise than your sister’s bed springs."

you lose customers. I was looking at the pricetag and thinking "hmm that's not too bad" until I read that. No way I'm buying a bike from someone whose method of promotion is simply to sling uneducated insults at their rivals. Pity, because that would otherwise have been a serious consideration for me; however fortunately I have dozens of other over-complicated, inherently flexy, underperforming, unreliable (like my current FSR bike which has gone a solid 18 months without even hinting at needing attention to the bearings), heavy, self-flagellating pieces of crap to choose from. That's ok though, this is a big industry and word doesn't get around very fast.

Edit: btw, if their message is "don't believe the hype", why do they spec SPV shocks on their DH stuff? I coulda sworn they'd go straight to Mojo'd Foxes with an attitude like that.

[master pain]

People who dont like the morewood article: Y'all should get the sand out of your vaginas! These frames are sreet, like some sugar based drink, and they were built with the power of love! Having had a test ride on the izumi dh and the 4X bike, they were pretty much the two nicest frames ive ever seen or ridden!
So, please, get that sand out of your vagina before its too late. Its making you too kranky!

[Rik]

People who dont like the morewood article: Y'all should get the sand out of your vaginas! ... So, please, get that sand out of your vagina before its too late. Its making you too kranky!So, do we have any basis for the claims both for Morewood, and against other bikes?
I think the point being made here is justify your words when making statements like in the release. Plus it's always a good idea to not berate the competition, but instead focus on the merits of your product.
The above is the reason for my posts... all I'd like to see is something a bit more professional written about the bikes. Why are they good? What benefits does the design give the rider? What makes them superiour, and why?
Is that too much to ask, instead of random slagging and big-noting?

[S.]

People who dont like the morewood article: Y'all should get the sand out of your vaginas! These frames are sreet, like some sugar based drink, and they were built with the power of love! Having had a test ride on the izumi dh and the 4X bike, they were pretty much the two nicest frames ive ever seen or ridden!
So, please, get that sand out of your vagina before its too late. Its making you too kranky!

Nobody has said the frames aren't any good (the worst that has been said is that they haven't got anything to offer that is better than the rest of the market, and that's hardly an insult), the problem is with the attitude. They could be the best bikes on earth for all anyone here cares, but that is a fine example of a piss-poor marketing effort; in fact not only has it not promoted the product, it's actually caused people to openly reject it.

[Kitoff]

Woah there. There is no need to get yourself so worked up. I'm sorry if anyone is all rubbed up the wrong way! It would seem to me that some people are taking suspension systems a little too personally. So, without attacking anyone's bike, its suspension system or the owner's personality I'd like to lay out what I perceive as the benefits of the Morewood setup:

1. Lightweight - The Morewood DH frame weighs only 10lbs with the possibility of further weight reductions to be made through alternative shock choice. All the other frames lie at the lighter end of the spectrum for their respective categories. As a general rule single pivot bikes do not carry the extra weight of linkage plates, bearings, pivot axles and pivot hardware that are found on multi link setups.

2. Ease of maintenance - Undeniably, two bearings present considerably less maintenance issues than a multi link setup which may run eight bearings or more. There is one pivot to keep running smoothly - if and when your bearings require replacement, it is a simple and inexpensive job. The elevated and easily accessed position of the pivot point found on the Morewoods makes any maintenance a dream, there is not a need to remove any other componentry to access the pivot. Additionally, somewhat less importantly, the simplicity of the single pivot frame design makes it very easy keep a bike looking good.

3. Less flex - the Stable Pivot Interface (SPI) system found on Morewood bikes utilises large diameter bearings, fitted to a very wide diameter pivot axle. The bearings are housed in a CNC machined pivot plate which forms part of a thick walled (and in the instance of the Izimu DH and Shova LT, cross braced) swingarm. The addition of a stainless steel 12mm through axle in the Izimu DH further boosts stiffness. The absence of a large number of bearings in which play may form, the ability to run wider diameter bearings when compared to many multi link bikes, the reduced number of press-fitted bearings or pivots which rely on pinch bolts and the stiff construction of a single triangulated swingarm all add to the stiffness benefits of the Morewood system.

4. Less noise - The non-monocque design of the Morewood swingarm, coupled with the elevated chainstay makes for a very quiet ride. Mountain Bike Action described the Morewood as the quietest DH bike they had ever tested. Additionally the reduced number of press fit bearings or pinch bolt retained bearings, when coupled with the elevated (and hence less easily contaminated) location of those bearings results in less potential for the development of a creaky or groaning ride.

5. More compatiblity - The elevated swingarm and pivot position of the Morewood means that any crank/chainguide can be run without modification. Some multi link bikes are very difficult to setup in this respect.

Etc, etc...

I could go on to talk about a whole host of other elements of the frame desing pros and cons and I'm sure someone could quite easily come back at me with the same. I could also have given you all a blow by blow run down of all the features of every frame in the Morewood lineup. I could have banged on about all the usual stuff in a press release too with the same to the same result.....BUT.....do you really want another boring as batshit press release?

At the end of the day, I'd rather have a few people pissed off by a press release than a lot of people bored. And if some people are so narrow as to reject a bike out of hand based on some obviously light hearted and non-malicious piss taking then quite frankyly it is their loss. The Morewoods are great and soulful bikes, I haven't ridden any better - if you won't give them any consideration because a press release is taking the piss then that is a big downer on your part. Come on people, lighten up - we're just riding bikes in the dirt after all!

Cheers,
Chris.

[S.]

How is anyone going to know that the press release is taking the piss? You simply heaped shit on other designs willy-nilly. I'm not going to pay out your bikes, but I'll say this: criticising other bikes for their (perceived) weaknesses, without being able to quantitatively back it up, is not a very smart thing for you to do. People who live in glass houses and all that. Be aware that you trying to point out problems/flaws/detrimental characteristics in other bikes could result in other people doing the same to yours.

Now all that fun stuff aside, if you can continue to put out intelligent posts like that ^^ that have both substance and reason (generally speaking), I think you'll get a warmer response, so please continue with that :)

[intense jonoooo]

Hey all, just to clarify - the Ndiza HT is only available in one size, the 16". The Morewood website terms it a medium, not small as it says above. The frame is available in both black and brown, contrary to the Morewood site.

AND, in response to those others who don't like what they've read:

I'll pull my head in....when the riding community stops buying overly complicated, inherently flexy, noisy, expensive DH and free ride bikes with suspension systems that will be redundant in a few years. Morewood, Bling Industries and myself really DO believe that a single pivot not only works better than all the VPP style designs out there, but that they make a lot more sense with respect to weight, maintenance, stiffness and dependability.

I'm sorry if that makes me a f*#Kwit!

And something to think about for those who claim there is nothing unique going on here - What is the point in reinventing the wheel when you can simply improve upon it?

Cheers,
Cocky Arsehole.

All i can say is Kitoff is cool; and his 4x bike is wicked. I dont no about the dh bike.. because I havent ridden it yet :(

[Kitoff]

Ok - when a press release starts out with 'Get down on your knees and say your thanks to the Gods of Bling', then perhaps take the whole thing with a grain of salt. Personally, I like controversy and not boredom and besides, this whole website is already full of pages and pages of junk on what is better than what, and why...... I just happen to be a little more vocal in my convictions!

If anyone has any questions of a technical nature about the frames and/or wants me to back up the statements I made then PM me or drop an email.

Sorry if anyone is still pissed off - but I still think VPP is a hoax! Hahaha.

Cheers,
Chris.

PS. Respct to you Jono, the DH bike is even more wickeder.

[intense jonoooo]

Prices kitoff? that trail bike looks soo sweet. can you either please post them here OR pm me thanks.

so ye prices for each frame plz.

[hairy]

Prices kitoff? that trail bike looks soo sweet. can you either please post them here OR pm me thanks.

so ye prices for each frame plz.

:o thats all i wanna know.

[Kitoff]

Ok everyone - here is the complete pricing list for all Morewood models. Please note that these are frame only prices and are inclusive of GST.

Izimu DH:
$3790.00

With carbon floating brake kit:
$4100.00

http://www.farkin.net/image.php?image=038a13deb7.jpg

Shova LT:
$3190.00

http://www.farkin.net/image.php?image=1e5e1e695f.jpg

Shova:
$2750.00

http://www.farkin.net/image.php?image=3553d2e1d8.jpg

Ndiza ST:
$2750.00

http://www.farkin.net/image.php?image=8130eee06a.jpg

Ndiza HT:
$1350.00

http://www.farkin.net/image.php?image=df5ef47a04.jpg

All frames also come with seatpost, seat clamp and Morewood T-shirt!

Cheers,
BLING IND.

[toodles]

Damn love the clean lines on their DH model. That things looks purdy...

[Matto]

Izimu Factory DH –
Izimu is Zulu for ‘cannibal’, and what else would you call a bike that eats others alive?
i believe in english we call it an 'orange 223'

Shova:
The down-hillers trail bike – the most ripping do-everything bike you’ll ever ride.
yeah, otherwise known as the old model SC bullit

isnt this the same as getting some other generic frame from taiwan or china, writing the specs down and building it yourself under the guise of "a new improved all S-African made bike"?

and i think bashing other company's only adds to the unprofessionalism and hypocrisy of stealing other the designs...that whole press release gives me 'less-wood' .

"morewood-
a truly flacid MTB company"

[Fallsrider]

These bikes look very good, stiff, light. I'm not downing VPP systems, but single pivots are a great design, simple, easy to maintain, and effective. That said, I'd take an Intense M3 or a V10 any day :D

However, the review, frankly, is not so champion. The Product is great, I would like to have a ride of one someday, but the review either needs editing or a total re-write. What the hell are people who view Farkin.net for the first time gonna think when the read that review?! It's not exactly professional :cool:

Rant over.

[intense jonoooo]

Izimu Factory DH –
Izimu is Zulu for ‘cannibal’, and what else would you call a bike that eats others alive?
i believe in english we call it an 'orange 223'

Shova:
The down-hillers trail bike – the most ripping do-everything bike you’ll ever ride.
yeah, otherwise known as the old model SC bullit

isnt this the same as getting some other generic frame from taiwan or china, writing the specs down and building it yourself under the guise of "a new improved all S-African made bike"?

and i think bashing other company's only adds to the unprofessionalism and hypocrisy of stealing other the designs...that whole press release gives me 'less-wood' .

"morewood-
a truly flacid MTB company"

I don’t get what your getting at mate, I'm not fully sure on all the geo side of the frames, but I'm sure each brand has tweaked it their way. In terms of single pivots you cant say Morewood have copied Orange; there are Gemini's, Bullit’s, heaps of single pivots.

From what I can gather Morewood seems to offer the best single pivot DH frame on the market.

Morewood Izimu DH:
8.5" travel
Swinger 6way
4.6kg/10lb
$3790.00

Orange 223:
9.5" travel
swinger 4way
$4499

Cannondale Gemini DH:
7" travel
swinger 6way
$3999

Cannondale has issues with the floating brake, also the fact it only has 7” travel, means you cant really run much sag. Though it is a pretty quiet bike.

Orange is extremely noisy, so if your buying one, better get some ear plugs. 9.5” of travel is a hell of a lot for a single pivot bike, I believe a little too much. The price is also pretty steep for a single pivot, and it only comes with a 4way.

Morewood seems to be pretty dialed, a decent price, 8.5” of travel, which is perfect for a single pivot, I believe. And apparently it is really quiet. I am looking forward to having a ride/look at kitoff’s new DH bike.

If I was going to get a single pivot bike, I think the Morewood would be the one to go for.

[wombat]

but the review either needs editing or a total re-write. What the hell are people who view Farkin.net for the first time gonna think when the read that review?! It's not exactly professional :cool:
Well I'd hope that most people that read it would realise that it is not a review, it is a "press release".
I'd also hope that they'd realise that the frontpage link states very boldly "This is un-edited".
Finally, I'd hope they'd notice that when they read the article, the author isn't infact anyone from Farkin at all, it's "Morewood" bikes.

Then again, you were one reader who got the wrong impression, so maybe we need to make it a bit more obvious somehow.

[drewandmel]

Ya can't please everyone can ya? You should probably ride one before dismissing it of you shopping list (as you should with all the other bikes on your list) As for the press realise, Yes it is a little cocky, but isn't it better than just saying "Here's some frames blah blah give us a call if you want" ??
It was s'pose to be taken with a little humour, Clearly some people take this stuff way to seriously, Remember why we all ride...........FUN!!!

[Kitoff]

[QUOTE=Matto]Izimu Factory DH –
Izimu is Zulu for ‘cannibal’, and what else would you call a bike that eats others alive?
i believe in english we call it an 'orange 223'

And what is a 223 if it is not an old Santa Cruz S8? Or an old Foes Weasel? Or a Mountain Cycle San Andreas? Come to think of it, don't all single pivots have a little in common? Like maybe one freakin pivot?


Shova:
The down-hillers trail bike – the most ripping do-everything bike you’ll ever ride.
yeah, otherwise known as the old model SC bullit

Yeah maybe.....but with far nicer geometry, a lower BB, shorter stays etc. etc.... Say, doesn't the Santa Cruz Bullit look a bit like a Gemini, or maybe a Haro, or maybe a San Andreas.....

Are they all just ripping each other off too? Or are they offering refinements over a proven, no bull shit design?

AND.....
I'm sorry all, but I really think that somewhere along the line a lot of you seem to have lost track of your sense of humour! Bikes aren't all that serious, bikes aren't about professionalism, bikes are about not taking things too damn seriously. Just everybody chill.

[Matto]

[QUOTE=Matto]Izimu Factory DH –
Izimu is Zulu for ‘cannibal’, and what else would you call a bike that eats others alive?
i believe in english we call it an 'orange 223'

And what is a 223 if it is not an old Santa Cruz S8? Or an old Foes Weasel? Or a Mountain Cycle San Andreas? Come to think of it, don't all single pivots have a little in common? Like maybe one freakin pivot?


Shova:
The down-hillers trail bike – the most ripping do-everything bike you’ll ever ride.
yeah, otherwise known as the old model SC bullit

Yeah maybe.....but with far nicer geometry, a lower BB, shorter stays etc. etc.... Say, doesn't the Santa Cruz Bullit look a bit like a Gemini, or maybe a Haro, or maybe a San Andreas.....

Are they all just ripping each other off too? Or are they offering refinements over a proven, no bull shit design?

.

very good point. and i must admit i was probably to hasty in my writing off of morewood having never ridden one.
i think what had me reply so quickly was the fact that until kitoff had his bike on this site a little while ago.. i had never even heard of morewood bikes... then having read a press release written in that manner gives an arrogant impression of morewood, when they are generally unproven outside of South Africa as being any better or improved on, then say an orange or santacruz for example (ie: worldcup/norba/ncs/australian series results???)...
dont get me wrong, i can see the humourous side of the press release, but what ever happened to just letting the products do the talking?

are all of old mate patricks titles in the same class? ie: the same as neethling and minnaar ride in back home?

[Kitoff]

Yes. Patrick Morewood rides in the same pro-elite class. Actually, Andrew Neethlings younger bro, Johnny, is now riding for Morewood too.

As far as someone was saying before about whether or not Morewood had the race results to back up the product, check out the Germany World cup round and some of the recent top ten NORBA results, you'll see a few stock as a rock Morewoods there. And you'll be seeing more for sure as the company grows and can afford to back more top riders.

[Fallsrider]

Well I'd hope that most people that read it would realise that it is not a review, it is a "press release".
I'd also hope that they'd realise that the frontpage link states very boldly "This is un-edited".
Finally, I'd hope they'd notice that when they read the article, the author isn't infact anyone from Farkin at all, it's "Morewood" bikes.

Then again, you were one reader who got the wrong impression, so maybe we need to make it a bit more obvious somehow.

Review, Press release, same difference.The fact that it is posted where the reviews usually appear and Fellow Farkiners eagerly click on to read the latest one was a tad confusing. I did notice the "This is un-edited" notice. I did not however know that it was the ACTUAL company Morewood, in which case, whoever runs the advertising needs to rethink their tactics, because not many people would be impressed with some of the terms used in there.

For the record, I am not offended by it in anyway, I just think that it's not the way to market your product, becasue it looks like some Bogan attempted to write a review in 10 mins eating a chicko roll, rather than the actual company itself.

[Rik]

Bikes aren't all that serious, bikes aren't about professionalism, bikes are about not taking things too damn seriously Bikes may not be, but it'd be nice if to have professionalism in the industry.

[wombat]

Review, Press release, same difference.
Actually no, they're completely different.
A review is an article that has been written after one of the farkin team has actually tested a product and come to a conclusion about it; the idea is that it gives you a more objective impression of how the product actually functions.

A press release is an article that is written by the manufacturer with the intent for it to be published by the media as a piece of promotional advertising; in this case to inform you that Morewood bikes are now available. It is more of an ad than an objective assessment, and it does not claim that the bikes have been tested and "reviewed".


I do understand what you mean about the confusion though with it's position as an article. In our defense though, not only reviews are used as features, race reports and interviews also appear in exactly the same position on the front page. If you look at the top of the Morewood article you'll also see that it's in the "Press Release" category.

[Fallsrider]

You don't have to explain the difference, what I ment was, it was easy to confuse the so called Press Release with a Review, Article, Feature whatever you want to call it. A mistake I'm sure others made as well.

Edit: I do however realise that we can't have everything and you guys do put alot of effort into running the site.

To certain users:
Some people out there need to settle down and drop the attitude problem. No need to take every frgging thing as a personal attack on your life :cool:

Opinions are like ears, everyone has them, so listen and if you don't agree with it, don't attack the person for having it.

[cheese]

Hey Kitoff, sorry for calling you an asshole or fuckwit, im sure the bikes are cool and I know that yours which was posted in 'post my ride' got a lot of 'oos' and 'ahhhs' a few weeks back. I realy do recommend not bagging out the other bike companies, they have a lot of loyal followers and many make great bikes. Doing this only pulls down the Morewood company.

So guys I think he's seen that most of us dont like how he's written the article so lets leave him in peace to get the bikes out into the market, im hoping to see a few of them on the trails.

We are all a big happy family anyway arent we? :)

EDIT: For F.B.R, I didnt realise the possibly sexual connotations of 'More Wood' ;).

[Daver]

I thought it was one word- Morewood?

[wombat]

You don't have to explain the difference, what I ment was, it was easy to confuse the so called Press Release with a Review, Article, Feature whatever you want to call it. A mistake I'm sure others made as well.
Yeap, definately a fair point; and something I'm sure we'll bear in mind in the future.

[bb7 rider]

which stores do u get these bad boys from?

[Timmy Bee]

i know bike addiction will have them. theyve already got a few in there.

[Kitoff]

[QUOTE=cheese]Hey Kitoff, sorry for calling you an asshole or fuckwit, im sure the bikes are cool and I know that yours which was posted in 'post my ride' got a lot of 'oos' and 'ahhhs' a few weeks back. I realy do recommend not bagging out the other bike companies, they have a lot of loyal followers and many make great bikes. Doing this only pulls down the Morewood company.[QUOTE=cheese]

Cheers Cheese - Thankyou very much. I must admit, I didn't anticipate such an angry response! Yes, Bling Industries intended to stir a little shit (and attract a bit of attention) with such an overtly cocky press release. As for laying into other bike companies, it really was meant to be taken a little more light heartedly than it obviously came across - of course some of the companies indirectly criticised make good bikes that have proven themselves. I was simply trying to make a bit of fun about the whole single pivot/linked bike argument. Nonetheless, I obviously took it a little far! So, I'll apologise if I offended anyone. Please don't let what was obviously an error of judgement colour your attitude towards the Morewood lineup. They are unbelieveably fun and exciting bikes to ride and I'm sure they'll prove themselves on the Australian race scene. In the future I'd really like to hear from anyone who has any questions or comments about the frames and I'll do my best to answer them.

Cheese, I appreciate your moderation and I, in return, will try and moderate my criticisms.

Thanks all.

[Timmy Bee]

lol, atleast theyll be known, even if it was for their fucked up press release. jokes kitoff, i like it...

they are awesome bikes but, ive ridden both kitoffs morewoods (4x one and DH one), the 4x one was just a car park ride, but it was awesome, felt like i was riding a hardtail with 16 inch stays. and i had a small DH run on the DH model, which felt awesome, realy stable and soaked up everything....

they are the shit.

[udi]

I'd have to wholeheartedly agree with S. here, and suggest that your press release, regardless of however light hearted it is supposed to be, sounds like a childish babble, and just drags down the reputation of the company. I remember toodles linking the website on farkin long ago, and checking out the site it's very professional, and gives no-nonsense information on the bikes for the most part. Regardless of their blatant similarity to an overly common bike named after a piece of fruit, I actually thought they were pretty cool. :) .. thought.
As a general rule single pivot bikes do not carry the extra weight of linkage plates, bearings, pivot axles and pivot hardware that are found on multi link setups.
That is unless you decide to opt for the lovely Morewood CF floating brake system, that brings the frame weight up to a shocking 12lbs, adds bearings, pivot axles, pivot hardware - and what do you know, the company actually suggests it will offer an improvement of suspension action under braking.

I'm not one to disagree that VPP is for the most part just a well thought out marketing ploy, but there are a few tried-and-true multi-pivot designs out there, that actually offer advantages over plain high/forward-pivot designs. Less chain growth, less pedal feedback, more active suspension under braking - wouldn't that suck! :rolleyes:

I'm pretty sure we can all take a joke here, but plainly slagging off well-thought-out suspension designs with nothing to back it up, in a press release at that, is not a way to gain good publicity. ;)

[bradh]

any publicity is good publicity...

[reggae rider]

You know the Nicolai is a far superior machine than Morewood! 4 bar link all the way!!

www.nicolai.net

Dan

[lotec]

I don’t get what your getting at mate, I'm not fully sure on all the geo side of the frames, but I'm sure each brand has tweaked it their way. In terms of single pivots you cant say Morewood have copied Orange; there are Gemini's, Bullit’s, heaps of single pivots.

From what I can gather Morewood seems to offer the best single pivot DH frame on the market.

Morewood Izimu DH:
8.5" travel
Swinger 6way
4.6kg/10lb
$3790.00

Orange 223:
9.5" travel
swinger 4way
$4499

Cannondale Gemini DH:
7" travel
swinger 6way
$3999

Cannondale has issues with the floating brake, also the fact it only has 7” travel, means you cant really run much sag. Though it is a pretty quiet bike.

Orange is extremely noisy, so if your buying one, better get some ear plugs. 9.5” of travel is a hell of a lot for a single pivot bike, I believe a little too much. The price is also pretty steep for a single pivot, and it only comes with a 4way.

Morewood seems to be pretty dialed, a decent price, 8.5” of travel, which is perfect for a single pivot, I believe. And apparently it is really quiet. I am looking forward to having a ride/look at kitoff’s new DH bike.

If I was going to get a single pivot bike, I think the Morewood would be the one to go for.
thats all very well and good but youve left out a lot of singlepivots, e.g bb7 and foes dhs mono. also "8.5 is perfect 9.5 is waaay too much" its 24.5 freakin millimetres, 2.45 cms difference, my thumbs wider than that i seriously doubt you would even notice it for gods sake.

that aside what makes a morewood better than a bb7 or a dhs mono? apart from price especially over the foes although if they were the same price i know for sure which bike id be sleeping with, er i mean riding

[intense jonoooo]

"8.5 is perfect 9.5 is waaay too much" its 24.5 freakin millimetres, 2.45 cms difference, my thumbs wider than that i seriously doubt you would even notice it for gods sake.

well if its only 2.45cm, why bother having it?? save weight instead.. boooyaaaa..

ye sorry about the other sinigle pivots. I actually still dont understand what bikes are and are not single pivot. I could just tell a 223, morewood, cannondale, bullit were single pivot.

[Daver]

well if its only 2.45cm, why bother having it?? save weight instead.. boooyaaaa..

ye sorry about the other sinigle pivots. I actually still dont understand what bikes are and are not single pivot. I could just tell a 223, morewood, cannondale, bullit were single pivot.

AFAIK they're exactly the same weight, using the same shocks. Thats what Kitoff said anyway.

[Kitoff]

thats all very well and good but youve left out a lot of singlepivots, e.g bb7 and foes dhs mono. also "8.5 is perfect 9.5 is waaay too much" its 24.5 freakin millimetres, 2.45 cms difference, my thumbs wider than that i seriously doubt you would even notice it for gods sake.

that aside what makes a morewood better than a bb7 or a dhs mono? apart from price especially over the foes although if they were the same price i know for sure which bike id be sleeping with, er i mean riding

You've got big thumbs! Listen - I could sit here and explain every way in which I personally view the Morewood as being better than anything else out there. And if anyone really wants me to, I will. But I've been working as a mechanic for a long time and I've seen a lot of things that make me very, very fond of the way that Morewood have put together all their bikes. Quite simply put, they have absolutely everything that you need to go fast and nothing that you don't. There is absolutely nothing on any of the Morewood frames that has a hint of superfluousness (yes I know that is not a real word) - they are functional to the core. They are a mechanics dream too, so maintenance free. But most of all, these frames are absolute pinners. I've never ridden anything like them (and I've owned almost twenty bikes in under three years). On my third ever run on the Morewood I set my fastest ever time down my local test track, I was trying all kinds of ridiculous lines that I've never even visualised before! And my 4X bike has blown me away - I've never owned a dual suspension jump bike before and I was worried about not being able to make it through all my usual dirt jump lines but the Morewood has pinned them all!

Anyways, enough of the banging on, I'll have the whole range out at the Ourimbah NSW state round this weekend for everyone to check out and have a play with. I'm sure that everyone, regardless of what they think of the press release, will be stoked on them.

Cheers,
Chris.

[Daver]

Ban him i say. I'm scarred for life.

[S.]

It's funny how every bike is the best thing on earth when you're trying to sell it.

[and1]

which stores do u get these bad boys from?

Thinking of trading in one of those outdated bb7s for one of those south african made bad boys aye?


**i hope people can detect my sarcasm**

[Kitoff]

It's funny how every bike is the best thing on earth when you're trying to sell it.

Cheers. Have a good day.

[patty.c]

Chris you know you always take things to far and push the envelope wide open so that everyone gets jelous and cranky, like a grandma who still hasn't finished going through menapouse (sorry if it ofends any grandmas out there). I know if you shipped to the Solomon Islands I would be cruising around the badass streets of Gizo town on anyone of those bad-boys. To everyone else out there relax!!! Some people obviously take things in life that are ment to be enjoyable (ie bike riding) way too seriously. As Chris said if you couldn't tell from the start of the article that it was a piss take then I feel very sorry for you, because there is obviously no humour in your life. If you get offended by the press release then "kina kim" and if you don't know what that means then bad luck.

peace, lookem you behind

[intense jonoooo]

It's funny how every bike is the best thing on earth when you're trying to sell it.

no i dont find it funny. I find it funny when someone is trying to sell something and says it shit.

Ofcourse the press thing is going to say its good, they are trying to sell them. Idiot.

[bradh]

There is absolutely nothing on any of the Morewood frames that has a hint of superfluousness (yes I know that is not a real word)
try 'superfluity'.

[bally]

Cant wait to get me a izumi dh morewood, much better than walking!

[MrCove]

So, lets recap,
QUOTE"
From what I can gather Morewood seems to offer the best single pivot DH frame on the market.

Morewood Izimu DH:
8.5" travel
Swinger 6way
4.6kg/10lb
$3790.00

Orange 223:
9.5" travel
swinger 4way
$4499

Cannondale Gemini DH:
7" travel
swinger 6way
$3999

"END QUOTE

seems like they all lose out in the value stakes
Cove Peeler, last years RRP was $4250, 5th, 9 1/2"
currently they are on a limited offer price of $2800, '05 models, 5th, 8 1/2"

Cove Playmate, last years RRP was $3750, 5th, 7 1/2"
currently they are on limited offer price of $2600, '05 models, 5th, 7 1/2"

next years pricing hasn't been confirmed yet but i'm looking at Peelers at $3800 and Playmates at $3500

wanna talk racing? Ashley Grundy is on a HaBU (Hook a Brother Up)program with me, he got his Playmate a week before he won U17's at State Rd5 last month

what is the current Canadian DH Champs champ riding? that'll be a Peeler then

QLD-er Rohan Gearing is now on the Cove factory team

State DH round 6 saw a couple of podium positions for Cove Playmates too, me 2nd MM2, Eden H 3rd U19's as well as 11th place in expert for new Peeler owner Cillian K

www.covebike.com
born bad on the shore

[Daver]

wanna talk racing? Ashley Grundy is on a HaBU (Hook a Brother Up)program with me, he got his Playmate a week before he won U17's at State Rd5 last month

what is the current Canadian DH Champs champ riding? that'll be a Peeler then

QLD-er Rohan Gearing is now on the Cove factory team

State DH round 6 saw a couple of podium positions for Cove Playmates too, me 2nd MM2, Eden H 3rd U19's as well as 11th place in expert for new Peeler owner Cillian K

www.covebike.com
born bad on the shore

Bah, Grundy has nothing. Tell the people what they want- it's Daver-proof, i never broke mine.

[the kid]

The bikes look great, but the article reads like it was written by a cocky asshole. "VPP/FPP/DW-linked piece of crap" Seriously, this guy calling Giant's, SC's and IH's "pieces of crap" what a fuckwit.

PS: Mabey the article should be edited.


I think the article is pretty out there, infact, its pretty harsh! Kind of like SA thrashing Auz in the Tri-Nations... We didn't write the release however, and we're not one's to slagg off any other bikes, we love bikes, thats why we make them. Our philosophy really is just make bikes the way we like them, and the way we like to ride them. Thats why our motto is "the bikes that downhill built_". Riding built the bikes which we make, not the other way round, and that is why they are unique.

I am sorry if the article offended anybody, it was not something which we wrote or had any control over, we just make the bikes!

Cheers, Andre
morewoodbikes.com

P.S. If you have any comments on the bicycles, rather than the article, I'd be really keen to get some feedback. Send your mails to andre@morewoodbikes.com

[mtbmamma]

Cheers. Have a good day.
:) I have never heard such a load of rubbish from everyone about this press release. Lighten up, learn to take a joke and have some fun. These bikes look great and ride beautifully. Good luck with it Kitoff.

[Daver]

I'm NOT Jono. I'm Dave. FFS

[intense jonoooo]

I'm NOT Jono. I'm Dave. FFS

hey jono......

[Constable Care]

I'm NOT Jono. I'm Dave. FFS

Yeah jono an u missed a cherrybrook sesh dis arvo

[Kitoff]

I just like to draw everyones attention to position number 4 at the Snowshoe Norba! Morewood all the way baby. Well done Geritt!

Yeeeeww!