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After watching Travis Pastrana attempting a backflip barspin i was amazed and thought how far the tricks have gone in this sport since 5 or so years ago, but how much further do you rekon it can go? Since foam pits for them is the new thing to practice this crazy stuff, what you reckon will be next on anyone of the malitias agenda or anyone for that matter?
2 smooth 4 u
17-08-2005, 07:18 PM
After watching Travis Pastrana attempting a backflip barspin i was amazed and thought how far the tricks have gone in this sport since 5 or so years ago, but how much further do you rekon it can go? Since foam pits for them is the new thing to practice this crazy stuff, what you reckon will be next on anyone of the malitias agenda or anyone for that matter?
back flip bar spin WTF dont they have tripple clamp forks i think they will eventualy be able 2 bike spin (same as a kick flip on a skate board)
B]]back flip bar spin WTF dont they have tripple clamp forks[/B] i think they will eventualy be able 2 bike spin (same as a kick flip on a skate board)
Yer they normally do it was a custom bike, snapped when it came down.
curtisrider
17-08-2005, 07:28 PM
Word was Travis was gonna double backie at the xgames this year, it wouldnt suprise me if he has been doing them into his pit for quite some time now.
^^^ Heard that aswell and roumer has it that he has actually landed one without foam but an a jump with hay.
at the drive in
17-08-2005, 07:52 PM
im not really a fan of fmx but i see abit of it on tv. I wouldnt mind seeing less dickheads like the metal mulisha wankers such as deagan and twitch and mroe guys like nate adams, pastrana and kenny batram.
emcgough
17-08-2005, 08:02 PM
I've seen footage of Pastrana doing double backies clean into a pit at his house. It was during the X games 10 coverage I think. He had a microphone on whilst doing it and he was talking in the air... seemed pretty calm about it and looked to have them fairly dialed.
Hopefully in the future they will eradicate metal mulisha and the image that they bring to the sport. I'd like to see them get their "360's" more similar to those on MTB and BMX, although I'm under the impression that this can't really be done on a moto (pardon my ignorance, I'm not exactly sure of these details). Off axis backflips just don't do much for me.
milne
17-08-2005, 08:09 PM
i seen that vid its great - pastrana is mad - TWITCH is KING
i LOVE FMX, double backflip would be sick
Why do a double backflip, ... how cool would it be if you landed it !!!
quote from mate [ he races mx] :::- the only good thing about fmx is that it takes the dickheads outa moto x :::-
so very true. but meh i like it
Mahoney_007
17-08-2005, 08:11 PM
It will go further than we could ever imagine just like it has for the last 10 years. Which you can pretty much thank Crusty Demons for. Thats right the 1st video will always be the best no matter how many backflips you pull.
I know there was alot of people going large way before then, but guys like Metzger, Seth, Clowers, made it very very cool. Before that your Guy Coopers and Rick Johnsons ......
Anyways I wish I had a dirt bike right now.......
mpdowling
17-08-2005, 08:18 PM
i think it will fly further then anyone can espect, i think that they will change the jumps and gaps so they have longer in the air to do tricks. although supposably someone is trying to front flip, and body varias will be the new thing. (screw bike variels is all about body these days) imagine though someone jumping doing a back flip and the bike flying normall, like in fantastic four. ( i can dream can't i :rolleyes: )
hardtail free rider
17-08-2005, 08:19 PM
yeh i watched the back flip bar spin on fox, dont no the guys name but the guy who won last year did it with a "body varial" -think of it as a rodeo spin off the bike :| it was nuts, i would much raher see tricks like that then stupid back flip tweaks etc.
i have a game on ps2, sled storm, one of the tricks that you can do is where the character jumps up off the bike and back flips (while the bike stays staionary in the air) then lands back onto the bike. i would love to see that done on a moto
floody
17-08-2005, 08:39 PM
It will go further than we could ever imagine just like it has for the last 10 years. Which you can pretty much thank Crusty Demons for. Thats right the 1st video will always be the best no matter how many backflips you pull.
I know there was alot of people going large way before then, but guys like Metzger, Seth, Clowers, made it very very cool. Before that your Guy Coopers and Rick Johnsons ......
Anyways I wish I had a dirt bike right now.......
Goddamn it, don't put the names of proper motocross racers anywhere near those clowns (exception of metzger perhaps, but then he only went after the FMX thing because he was a washed up , has been SX racer).
Actually I think it will fizzle out eventually. I also think its dangerous for MX as a sport, because when a trend drives things, and inevitably disappears, the sport always shrinks. IMO, thats what happened to BMX as freestyle got bigger and bigger and hamstrung racing, in the late 80's/early 90's.
Another unfortunate thing is that FMX is the crusty/mulisha/50s/etc dickheads. Its nigh on impossible to separate the two and have the sport intact.
Its not motocross either. FMC perhaps, freestyle motorcycling would be more accurate, as would attaching a daredevil like freakshow stigma.
Sorry, I largely detest it. Cheap video entertainment, OK. Organised, heavily publicised sport of the moment? VERY bad thing.
Mahoney_007
17-08-2005, 08:56 PM
Sorry Floody, all those teen memories came back very rapidly, wasnt sure what I was saying LMFAO :D
I havnt seen a AmA series in years.
i think it will fly further then anyone can espect, i think that they will change the jumps and gaps so they have longer in the air to do tricks. although supposably someone is trying to front flip, and body varias will be the new thing. (screw bike variels is all about body these days) imagine though someone jumping doing a back flip and the bike flying normall, like in fantastic four. ( i can dream can't i :rolleyes: )
hey mate a visit to dictionary.com could come in handy..........
anyways as everyone has said there si no way to tell how far it is gonna go, sure there is a limit, but what is it????? 15 years ago, the standard tricks at a FMX show were insane!
at the drive in
18-08-2005, 06:58 PM
hey mate a visit to dictionary.com could come in handy..........
anyways as everyone has said there si no way to tell how far it is gonna go, sure there is a limit, but what is it????? 15 years ago, the standard tricks at a FMX show were insane!
People in glass houses shouldnt throw stones, maybe you should visit dictionary.com yourself
I also dont really understand your post are you trying to say that 15 years ago the standard tricks at FMX shows were insane. If you are you might want to edit your post. FMX has been around for no where near that long.
harrypowell
18-08-2005, 07:05 PM
FMX is the most progressive sport out there right now, Travis being the inspiration for it all, with chuck carothers doing the body varial and travis having good success with double backflips, where 5 years ago Carey Hart was king for not even landing a backflip, there next thing to come will be something like a bike flip (aka "Instant Death") but it can only go bigger and bigger ...
On Travis' barspin backflip, weird as! in future those barspin compatible bikes will get more common and their technology with grow and they wont break on every jump, FMX is looking big for the future!
FMX is the most progressive sport out there right now, Travis being the inspiration for it all, with chuck carothers doing the body varial and travis having good success with double backflips, where 5 years ago Carey Hart was king for not even landing a backflip, there next thing to come will be something like a bike flip (aka "Instant Death") but it can only go bigger and bigger ...
On Travis' barspin backflip, weird as! in future those barspin compatible bikes will get more common and their technology with grow and they wont break on every jump, FMX is looking big for the future!
FMX is nowhere near the most progressive sport out there. How is pulling tricks that BMX has been doing for 5-10 years considered progressive? Don't forget BMX already has dialled double-flips, bike-flips, front flips, 720s, 360-double tailhwips, etc etc etc. 1080s and triple tailwhips aren't far away either.
FMX is nowhere near the most progressive sport out there. How is pulling tricks that BMX has been doing for 5-10 years considered progressive? Don't forget BMX already has dialled double-flips, bike-flips, front flips, 720s, 360-double tailhwips, etc etc etc. 1080s and triple tailwhips aren't far away either.
When you're doing it over a 70 foot gap on a 100kg bmx then get back to me ;)
semi_lob
18-08-2005, 11:54 PM
Don't forget Jamie Bestwick is doing double tail whip flairs on the vert now. All those talking about how cool it would be for our body do to a backflip off the bike while the bike stays straight, a bmxer pastrana is great mates with does them on his bmx. If you've seen chain reaction 5 or killing time you'll know what i'm talking about and it really is insane!
blt2ride
19-08-2005, 01:02 AM
I don't think the single crown fork will take off on a motorcycle. However, I'm sure the FMX riders will continue to push the backflip to new limits, and we will see some 360 variations in the future.
I feel I can say this with some confidence: Travis will be the first rider to pull a double backflip. I've seen videos of him working on them into his foam pit...
When you're doing it over a 70 foot gap on a 100kg bmx then get back to me ;)
Whoop-de-farkin-doo! Same tricks, bigger bikes, I'm not impressed. Don't tell me you're one of those "OMG TEH BACKFLIP ON MOUNTAIN BIKES IZ PROGRESSION COZ TEH WHEELS IS BIGGER!" kids?
I also agree that Pastrana can't be far from bringing double-flips to the dirt, he's had them dialled into his foam pit for at least 12-18 months for now which for a rider as dedicated to progression as he is, is a farkin long time to hold back on trying it for real.
Whoop-de-farkin-doo! Same tricks, bigger bikes, I'm not impressed. Don't tell me you're one of those "OMG TEH BACKFLIP ON MOUNTAIN BIKES IZ PROGRESSION COZ TEH WHEELS IS BIGGER!" kids?
What the hell are you talking about, the scales are nothing alike. I can't say I see many FMXers down at the skatepark or the local dirtjumps. When you've got a bike that IS significantly heavier (by about 5 times, and is now the equivalent to throwing a heavy person - with exceptionally large gyroscopic momentums at work - around, then I think it's fair to say that there's a large difference between that and BMX. There's a reason they didn't manage to backflip mx bikes until recently, and it's not because there aren't enough braindead retard psychos out there who are willing to try stupid stuff.
wombat
19-08-2005, 04:20 PM
If you've seen chain reaction 5 or killing time you'll know what i'm talking about and it really is insane!
Sorry, but I don't think that a tramp bike quite counts.
Kona.S.P
19-08-2005, 05:50 PM
Word was Travis was gonna double backie at the xgames this year, it wouldnt suprise me if he has been doing them into his pit for quite some time now.
Yea, prob true cause i got fotage of a guy down hear in Frankston doing double backflips into his foam pit. Fucking crazy.
harrypowell
19-08-2005, 07:37 PM
FMX is nowhere near the most progressive sport out there. How is pulling tricks that BMX has been doing for 5-10 years considered progressive? Don't forget BMX already has dialled double-flips, bike-flips, front flips, 720s, 360-double tailhwips, etc etc etc. 1080s and triple tailwhips aren't far away either.
err ... bmx has been around for about 30 years longer and they are like 200 - 300kg lighter ... less risk of pain when attempting the tricks ...
ps ... im not dissin' bmx, i love it. i also love corey bohan.
semi_lob
19-08-2005, 07:53 PM
err ... bmx has been around for about 30 years longer and they are like 200 - 300kg lighter ... less risk of pain when attempting the tricks ...
ps ... im not dissin' bmx, i love it. i also love corey bohan.
You also have to worry about the fact bmx's have pedals alot harder to land on, can't land sitting down and they might not be as heavy as a moto but they sure as hell don't have 14 inches of travel to soften their landings.
Can you do them on tramp bikes Wombat? hmm i think not
S_M_I_D_D_Y
19-08-2005, 10:05 PM
Footage of pastrana doin double flips?? its not exactly new. i saw photos of it in a freetyle moto mag around febuary - march. he was also doing NICE 360 flips into the pit with a dj helmet. no full face.
harrypowell
20-08-2005, 07:56 AM
Footage of pastrana doin double flips?? its not exactly new. i saw photos of it in a freetyle moto mag around febuary - march. he was also doing NICE 360 flips into the pit with a dj helmet. no full face.
i saw him trying the double backflip into the foam pit with a dj helmet and green smith warpstar goggles ... good lookin' !!!
Supert
20-08-2005, 03:27 PM
Travis can now do a double bak flip inta a foam pit, a 360 into a foam pit, and i 720 into a foam pit
Travis can now do a double bak flip inta a foam pit, a 360 into a foam pit, and i 720 into a foam pit
u sure about that part, if he could do a 720 that means he would be super sonfident doing a 3 in which case we would be seeing a 3 on dirt.
CHEWY
20-08-2005, 05:00 PM
err ... bmx has been around for about 30 years longer and they are like 200 - 300kg lighter ..
Wow.. I didnt realise they were jumping BMW RS;s these days.
err ... bmx has been around for about 30 years longer and they are like 200 - 300kg lighter ... less risk of pain when attempting the tricks ...
ps ... im not dissin' bmx, i love it. i also love corey bohan.
FYI, an average MX bike weighs ~100kg.
floody
20-08-2005, 06:16 PM
FYI, an average MX bike weighs ~100kg.
Duh, don't you know a BMX weighs, like, -200kg ? thats why they can land soft with fully rigid bikes.
slared
20-08-2005, 06:36 PM
I don't think the single crown fork will take off on a motorcycle. However, I'm sure the FMX riders will continue to push the backflip to new limits, and we will see some 360 variations in the future.
I feel I can say this with some confidence: Travis will be the first rider to pull a double backflip. I've seen videos of him working on them into his foam pit...
i wouldn't be to sure about that mate twitch is by far the most consistent with his flips and is far more advanced with his flp variations.
emcgough
20-08-2005, 07:44 PM
u sure about that part, if he could do a 720 that means he would be super sonfident doing a 3 in which case we would be seeing a 3 on dirt.
360 on dirt? Pastrana did that ages ago, mate. See below:
yeah the 360 on dirt was done back in the 2003 X games, first by Deegan and then Pastrana. Travis's was much cleaner.
matt99
20-08-2005, 08:06 PM
where 5 years ago Carey Hart was king for not even landing a backflip,
Yes, he was king for crashing out.... imagine what his life would be like if that actaully was the first flip!?
Yea, prob true cause i got fotage of a guy down hear in Frankston doing double backflips into his foam pit. Fucking crazy.
EERRR?..... I think not, although a name could help Matt see the light.
360 on dirt? Pastrana did that ages ago, mate. See below:
i meant more often that what it is done
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