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freeride_sweet
23-08-2005, 05:57 PM
ive been a fave of great musically talented bands for a while now, i was wondering what bands people listen to a long these lines, like bands that write music that just blows your head off when u think how technical it is, i have to say there arn't that many these days, well ones that i know of

such bands i live are Dream theater, Liquid Tension Experiment (off branch of dream theater), evergrey, cynic and watch tower

isthisthepart
23-08-2005, 06:15 PM
from first to last.....if you can understand what they are saying, fuck it scares you i only just realised what some of their lyrics mean

norco_rampage
23-08-2005, 06:39 PM
Dream theater, Liquid Tension Experiment (off branch of dream theater),

Dream Theater is a personal favourite, John Petrucci rocks my socks, his solo album is wicked, and the new DT album is also good although Train of thought is better in my opion. Ive got 7 of their concerts on my computer also got a LTE concert from 99 lol JP uses the guitar he used in the Rock Discipline video..so retro.
James LaBrie definatly has increase his vocal skill over time, used to be a pain to listen too, then again i only listened for JP and Mike Portnoy anyway.

Check this wicked photo of JP (http://www.photomistress.com/view_photo.php?full=1&set_albumName=GigantourDTJuly2005&id=13DTGigan72605Alina_001)

Opeth would have to be my favourite live performance band, the Lamentations DVD is absolutly awesome.

freeride_sweet
23-08-2005, 06:49 PM
ow dam i suck how could i forget opeth, there new album kicks ass, but i have to agree with u about train of thought i reckon their best album, so heavy yet complex, but i do really like a change of seasons, great ablum and song

ow yer i not to sure that hardore bands really fall into this type of music, well im yet to see any hardcore bands with dream theater talant

norco_rampage
23-08-2005, 06:55 PM
change of seasons

i definatly agree there, definatly one of their best songs.

jax0n
23-08-2005, 07:05 PM
OK, I'm a MASSIVE music slut.
Almost as bad as I am with bikes. And I appreciate a good tune no matter what style it is. Although I have a leaning towards the heavier tunes, and I have heard of Dream Theatre and Watch Tower.

So which tunes of theirs are worthy of a download then?

By the way... I always did, and always will, think that Maynard James Keenan is the best muthafarknting that ever happened to music.

freeride_sweet
23-08-2005, 07:19 PM
i would say dream theater, stuff from train of thought or a change of seasons, but if u like quite heavy things then watchtower is mad,

i would also say dont ld them buy them, but i dont want this thread to turn into a dl or not to dl thread

Atomizer
23-08-2005, 07:22 PM
Slint. Rodan. Refused. Sleep. (Early) Helmet. Unsane. Halo of Flies. Surgery. Fudge Tunnel. Cathedral. Kyuss. Sepultura. Nailbomb. Carcass. Naked City. Painkiller. Scorn. (Early)Pitchshifter. Clutch....Hmmm....John Coltrane. Dwarves.
Big Black, Rapeman, The Jesus Lizard, (the) Melvins. Cows. Supersuckers. The Mars Volta. Slayer. Steel Pole Bathtub. Bad Brains. Fugazi. Minutemen. Husker Du. Chrome. helios creed. And even Tool.

jax0n
23-08-2005, 07:29 PM
i would also say dont ld them buy them, but i dont want this thread to turn into a dl or not to dl thread

Just had a listen to a Liquid Tension tune, Kindred Spirits I think it was..... Dunno, cause I deleted it half way through.. sorry guys, but i didn't like it much at all....

Oh and I didn't down load it... cause that would be baaaaaad.....
honest :o

freeride_sweet
23-08-2005, 07:53 PM
yer its the sorta music that u really have to appreciate the techincality of it, but there are better songs, i have to say dl Dream theater:honor thy father, change of season (it is big) or evergrey:blinded, i know i said dont dl them but u have to get a taste b4 u BUY.

liquid tension is more of a big wank, look at me i can play my instrumnet insane, but i love that sort of stuff, dream theater is like that but is also really mad to listen to, and to try learn, its sooo hard

and Atomizer (member.php?u=8211) i think children of bodem might be up your alley, farkin mad band

roasted
23-08-2005, 07:59 PM
i would say dream theater, stuff from train of thought or a change of seasons, but if u like quite heavy things then watchtower is mad,

i would also say dont dl them buy them, but i dont want this thread to turn into a dl or not to dl thread

well it's quite funny because you got the new Opeth off bittorrent, as it isnt available for another week. (yes I have heard it)

Tool, Opeth, Meshuggah, APC, and some Technical death metal (Cryptopsy etc.) are all the shit.

jax0n
23-08-2005, 08:00 PM
I'll tell you one lot who are LOADS technical and very very good is a bunch named Infected Mushroom.

Don't really go for electric, sort of doof doof music,( prodigy exempt ) but these guys are crazy, crazy good ! So worth a listen.
Again, some songs are naff. But alot of them are just the goods, seriously.

My band of the moment.

Oh, couldn't get any Dream Theatre.

jax0n
23-08-2005, 08:05 PM
well it's quite funny because you got the new Opeth off bittorrent, as it isnt available for another week. (yes I have heard it)

Tool, Opeth, Meshuggah, APC, and some Technical death metal (Cryptopsy etc.) are all the shit.


GO APC AND TOOL !!!!
SO SO SO SO SO The goods.

Wanna hear this new Tool album that's cummin out.....

freeride_sweet
23-08-2005, 08:27 PM
well it's quite funny because you got the new Opeth off bittorrent, as it isnt available for another week. (yes I have heard it)

Tool, Opeth, Meshuggah, APC, and some Technical death metal (Cryptopsy etc.) are all the shit.

yes yes u got me, i did dl it, well my mate did, but i will be buying it, i have a reserved copy a jb,

but on a nother note, some technical death metal is children of boddem, fucking mad, probs my fav band at the moment, go my tickets to their gig as well, im looking so forward to it as well, if your in melb u should some along

christopher riding
23-08-2005, 08:34 PM
listen to any TOOL album, especially AENIMA that is about as clever and inventive as you wanna get. Danny Carey does shit that no one else can do and then you have the other guys Maynard with his lyrics and Adam Jones plays such brilliant guitar, heavy but so ambient at the same time. :D

freeride_sweet
23-08-2005, 09:13 PM
yer tool are mad, i have to say one of the best bands going round, but i have to say that i think lataralis dunno how to spell it but the most recent one is the best, anima is good but it has to many pointless songs, but it also has some of the most reconised songs, sweet non the less

Caine
23-08-2005, 09:56 PM
i think bad religion would be a big 1 for me because there music is really good. you can understand what they say lol. and there lyrics are good. and there not afraid to put there point of view out there.

Cheers

Caine

Arete
23-08-2005, 10:03 PM
The Dillinger Escape Plan. Nuff said.

jax0n
23-08-2005, 10:23 PM
The Dillinger Escape Plan. Nuff said.

Just listened to Sunshine the Werewolf.

Fuck. :eek:

How fast is some of the doublekicking in that song man.....

roasted
24-08-2005, 07:32 AM
this thread is turning into a drumming pissing contest.

so I direct you to derek roddy, former nile and now Hate eternal. SOO FAST.

oh, and Nile are one of my favorite bands.ever.

Wayno
24-08-2005, 08:17 AM
Iron Maiden need I say more. Mindsnare for Australian

Bobby_Digital
24-08-2005, 09:51 AM
i write reviews on car audio gear and i use Tool and A Perfect Circle for testing,

Anima has some great bass in it and APC's second album has big wad's of middbass :D

soundgarden's jesus christ pose is one technical song.

freeride_sweet
24-08-2005, 09:55 AM
iron madian are a sick band, they pretty much started it all, but they aren't the best technical band, although they are still pretty dam good, but does anyone have any other really technical bands.

RCOH
24-08-2005, 10:15 AM
Metallica? Strung Out? Cradle of Filth? Impaled Nazarene? Deicide? NOFX? Pantera? Sepultura? Alice In Chains? Blind Melon?

Pretty much any 'decent' metal bands are going to be technically talented, because you need chops to play that style of music. Whether they are musically talented...(mayhem, bestial warlust, etc)

Musically talented, however, is a different story. Green Day play some of the easiest songs around (3-5 power chords, 4-4 beat, bass follows chord progression, verse chorus verse chorus bridge chorus end) but musically they are hard to beat because the songs are well written & sound damn good, even if they are 'simple' songs. Same thing could be said for The Beatles, Hatebreed (to a certain extent), pretty much any SoCal punk band, Destiny's Child, Kylie, the list goes on.

Adrian
24-08-2005, 10:31 AM
I recently got hold of deftones old album (around the fur) for a bit of a remenisce.I rate them as very original thinkers in terms of their song structure, Lyrical melodies, etc. Also rate bands such as smashing pumpkins, radiohead, incubus, etc. for the same reason. Pretty much stuck in the 90's really...

bazza
24-08-2005, 01:47 PM
*cough* mike patton *cough*

freeride_sweet
24-08-2005, 07:48 PM
Metallica? Strung Out? Cradle of Filth? Impaled Nazarene? Deicide? NOFX? Pantera? Sepultura? Alice In Chains? Blind Melon?

Pretty much any 'decent' metal bands are going to be technically talented, because you need chops to play that style of music. Whether they are musically talented...(mayhem, bestial warlust, etc)

Musically talented, however, is a different story. Green Day play some of the easiest songs around (3-5 power chords, 4-4 beat, bass follows chord progression, verse chorus verse chorus bridge chorus end) but musically they are hard to beat because the songs are well written & sound damn good, even if they are 'simple' songs. Same thing could be said for The Beatles, Hatebreed (to a certain extent), pretty much any SoCal punk band, Destiny's Child, Kylie, the list goes on.

theres only so many power cords i can take, all those bands are great, and i do like them i even have albums from all those bands but its all not that technical (except for pantera and some metallica and some others), bands like dream theater and everygrey u can listen to it and go f*** how do they play that,

but no doubt some of those bands write music that is great for wat it is, and like is said i do like all those bands but i want to be blown of my feet with the sheer crazyness.

roasted
24-08-2005, 07:53 PM
sheer crazyness technically? or just a musical assault? perhaps both?

Nile (IMO) is a great example of both. the drummers are rad, they are incredibly fast, yet Karl Sanders and Dallas still do some really cool riffing and solos.

freeride_sweet
24-08-2005, 08:36 PM
cant say ive hear of "nile", or is it just my igronance and cant tell that its something short,

also, not being a drumer but i heard that the joey (slipknot drumer) uses quad kick, basicly double but with 2 for each single kick, i still rate him as one of the best metal drummers and alot of mags agree, well i agree with them but any truth to that or am i just hearing shit

ed the frog
24-08-2005, 09:05 PM
TOOL all the way!

and no, Joey just uses a double kick...but man he uses it well!

jax0n
24-08-2005, 10:04 PM
Comon theme anyone.... Tool and A Perfect Circle.... Hands down winner I'd say.

It doesn't have to be FAST to be technical.
It sometimes takes the softer moments in a song to lower you down, and wrap you up in it's angelic wings. Just so it can take you back up, throw it's head back, and tear you limb from limb in a grimmacing, frenzied, blood covered culmination of Rolls, Riffs, Beats and screams....

ps. Lateralus has NOTHING on Anema.

freeride_sweet
25-08-2005, 04:20 PM
ps. Lateralus has NOTHING on Anema.

well i'd debate that, it has a few great songs but has tomany on those crap songs that u can't listen to because theyre soo bad and boring, but each person has to have an opinion,

DYJK
25-08-2005, 04:27 PM
also, not being a drumer but i heard that the joey (slipknot drumer) uses quad kick, basicly double but with 2 for each single kick, i still rate him as one of the best metal drummers and alot of mags agree, well i agree with them but any truth to that or am i just hearing shit

Funny that! He is said by most to be the best in the world! His kit costs shitloads...(titanuim..) But didnt he go to the murderdolls to play as leadguitarist?

slayer....megadeath....SOAD...DP

frenzal rhomb are heaps technical... ;)

josh_lives_here
25-08-2005, 04:27 PM
Iron Maiden

agreed, best/most skilled band ever

freeride_sweet
25-08-2005, 04:42 PM
agreed, best/most skilled band ever

there are far more skillled bands than iron maiden, but they are sick, love'em

ed the frog
25-08-2005, 05:08 PM
well i'd debate that, it has a few great songs but has tomany on those crap songs that u can't listen to because theyre soo bad and boring, but each person has to have an opinion,

ah dude, you're missing the beauty of it. Lateralus is a work of art. Each song follows the next so well. listen to it atleast 5 times right through and you might start to understand. i've actually decided myself that aenema and lateralus are almost exactly the same album in song structure, but i wont go into that here.

and too right, complicated and technical does not always mean fast!

downhill all da way
25-08-2005, 05:16 PM
i would have to say:
-From first to last
-Frankenbok
-Slayer
-Ill Nino
-Chimaira
-Cannibal corpse
they are some of my fav's but there is alot more that i havnt mentioned

freeride_sweet
25-08-2005, 05:26 PM
ah dude, you're missing the beauty of it. Lateralus is a work of art. Each song follows the next so well. listen to it atleast 5 times right through and you might start to understand. i've actually decided myself that aenema and lateralus are almost exactly the same album in song structure, but i wont go into that here.

and too right, complicated and technical does not always mean fast!

two things, i think lateralus its better, but yes there is no point going into it, as there will never be an end to it

and yes technical doesnt have to be fast, but but get 4 members of a band playing 16 notes in a bar for 12 bars (dream theater: change on seasons about half way through) and not just one note, every note in the squence is different, u just go shit, wtf, how can it be possible, has to be listen.

dam that has got me in the mod for some dream theater

konasaurus
25-08-2005, 05:29 PM
KYUSS
MESHUGGAH
The Melvins
Tool
PRIMUS

Meshuggah and Primus seriously dont get enough cred

ed the frog
25-08-2005, 06:13 PM
dam that has got me in the mod for some dream theater

what's their best album (or most popular)? i'm keen for a listen!!

freeride_sweet
25-08-2005, 07:12 PM
i think their best is either awake or train of thought, but a really good song of an ablum is a change of seasons, 24mins of purer genious, its is also and album but i dont have it, cant find it anywhere

Tomgos
25-08-2005, 07:27 PM
well i'd debate that, it has a few great songs but has tomany on those crap songs that u can't listen to because theyre soo bad and boring, but each person has to have an opinion,



ah dude, you're missing the beauty of it. Lateralus is a work of art. Each song follows the next so well. listen to it atleast 5 times right through and you might start to understand. i've actually decided myself that aenema and lateralus are almost exactly the same album in song structure, but i wont go into that here.

and too right, complicated and technical does not always mean fast!


freeride_sweet said that about aenima, and i totally agree with him, the album is good, but has a couple of pointless, fast foward songs (like message to harry manaback, or whatever its called). Lateralus is my favourite album, but i cant get over undertow, it is a work of art. My favourite song from tool would be opiate, one of the best songs (not structurally) but just the way it sounds, and you can hear maynard developing into the god he is today. I also love parabol(a), schism, mantra, the grudge, lateralus, stinkfist, eulogy etc etc from the newer albums

At the moment my favourite band would have to be dredg, and their new album catch without arms just came out recently, and i swear ive listened to it over 50 times, i love each and every song... no album has been so flawless since The pet shop boys' discoVery (im not gay dont worry haha). other artists i like would be opeth, in flames, apc ofcourse... absolutely love thirteenth step and bat off to it, bodom, porcupine tree, some old dimmu borgir, nin, dream theater, and a bit more i spose, but cant think

freeride_sweet
25-08-2005, 07:33 PM
freeride_sweet said that about aenima, and i totally agree with him, the album is good, but has a couple of pointless, fast foward songs (like message to harry manaback, or whatever its called). Lateralus is my favourite album, but i cant get over undertow, it is a work of art. My favourite song from tool would be opiate, one of the best songs (not structurally) but just the way it sounds, and you can hear maynard developing into the god he is today. I also love parabol(a), schism, mantra, the grudge, lateralus, stinkfist, eulogy etc etc from the newer albums

At the moment my favourite band would have to be dredg, and their new album catch without arms just came out recently, and i swear ive listened to it over 50 times, i love each and every song... no album has been so flawless since The pet shop boys' discoVery (im not gay dont worry haha). other artists i like would be opeth, in flames, apc ofcourse... absolutely love thirteenth step and bat off to it, bodom, porcupine tree, some old dimmu borgir, nin, dream theater, and a bit more i spose, but cant think

yer u got it right, undertow i just couldn't thing of the album name but yer that has to be the best, i only heard that one recently and havent be able to buy it yet (lack of money and the only cds i have bought),

and is bodom short 4 children of bodom, they have to be the death metal band going round, not to death yet more death than heavy, great musicians to. u going to their concert?

Tomgos
25-08-2005, 07:39 PM
yer u got it right, undertow i just couldn't thing of the album name but yer that has to be the best, i only heard that one recently and havent be able to buy it yet (lack of money and the only cds i have bought),

and is bodom short 4 children of bodom, they have to be the death metal band going round, not to death yet more death than heavy, great musicians to. u going to their concert?



yeah i might be going with a mate, if i can be bothered spending money (saving up for anything is way to hard for me). He's got 2 tickets and he might be able to sell one to me, but even then its like buying a ticket for a 3 hour or whatever concert, or buying a new mtb part hahaha

i compare everything i buy, even food, to what mtb part could buy for the equivalent price

shmity
25-08-2005, 07:44 PM
In Flames. Everyone of their releases blows me away. Theres also a fair few austrailian MC's that always pull something special out of the hat. Also, as much as their albums are well written, but a little uninspiring, the Cat Empires live shows cannot be beat.

S.
25-08-2005, 07:56 PM
Ditto for In Flames. Bullet Ride is a top song.

System of a down have some pretty crazy stuff too.

freeride_sweet
25-08-2005, 08:04 PM
inflames are mad, try shadows fall, they are sick as well, but togmos if u live in melb it;s only $40 but i dont know where u live some i dont know how much it is but if its the same thats preety dam good considering the quallity of music they play, do u know who is the suport act, didnt bother to find out

Tomgos
25-08-2005, 08:05 PM
Yeah i totally agree, bullet ride is a awesome song, as is the quite place and only for the weak

im not really a fan of system of a down, i really dislike their style... but im only basing that on like a couple songs ive heard so dont judge me if im wrong



just wanted to add my favourite part of any song, listen to blackwater park, opeth, and go 1:45 minutes in, and listen to mikael go urrhh... its so good it makes me cringe

jax0n
25-08-2005, 09:21 PM
Sorry boys, just not feeling you about Lateralus being better than Anema. I just close my eye's to that album and dissapear into another world.

Agreed that Primus hasn't had enough cred here. Les Claypool has to be one of the maddest Bassists around, and to be able to mash out those tunes and sing, takes a helluva Lotta talent.

Gonna show my age now and say that Pink Floyd are another one of my alltime Faves. The Wall is just timeless.
Another Oldie but goodie is Death. Some of the sweetest harmonics I've heard.
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freeride_sweet
25-08-2005, 09:27 PM
yer pink floid are good, im not a great fan but they are good, does anyone like manowar, they bass play from them comes up with the madest lines a solos, and plays on a neck that is the size of a violin (very small), they are a great band musicly, but vocaly they stuck, they love them self wayway to much, but still good

jax0n
25-08-2005, 09:36 PM
yer pink floid are good, im not a great fan but they are good, does anyone like manowar, they bass play from them comes up with the madest lines a solos, and plays on a neck that is the size of a violin (very small), they are a great band musicly, but vocaly they stuck, they love them self wayway to much, but still good

I agree, not heard many of their songs, because of the fact I didn't like their vocolist.
Some singers enhance a band, but some just hold them back something fearce.

I also think that some of the shit that incubus put out is so tallented and addictive. not one of them is a weaker link in the chain.

edit: this link has wickedly increased my music library..... loving it.

konasaurus
25-08-2005, 11:00 PM
How could i forget opeth ...

The red chord is an encredibly tight band
MASTODON
At the Gates

Also bands like

Fantomas
Mr Bungle
Tomahawk

well anything patton touches ... hahaha abit of an overstatement but yeh seriously killer bands.

gumbyhead
25-08-2005, 11:12 PM
Opeth rock my world,
Agree that tool is good, but I've been to 2 of their concerts, and I hate to say it, maybe started to outgrow them...
Great band is Parkway Drive, very technical and hard. Touring at the moment, check http://www.parkwaydriverock.com/, playing at the evy in melbourne on october 8th.

tu plang
25-08-2005, 11:16 PM
freeride_sweet said that about aenima, and i totally agree with him, the album is good, but has a couple of pointless, fast foward songs (like message to harry manaback, or whatever its called). Lateralus is my favourite album, but i cant get over undertow, it is a work of art. My favourite song from tool would be opiate, one of the best songs (not structurally) but just the way it sounds, and you can hear maynard developing into the god he is today. I also love parabol(a), schism, mantra, the grudge, lateralus, stinkfist, eulogy etc etc from the newer albums


i wouldnt even try to say what is best, they are all pretty awesome.

message to harry manback is pretty cool imo. parabola is awesome, some of the guitar sections in that give me goosebumps. the patient is also awesome. pushit, both the live and aenima versions are incredible too!

DWNHLR01
26-08-2005, 08:14 AM
Definatly Coheed & Cambria...The lead singer has an amzing voice which is backed up by some pretty techy riffs and such.

bazza
26-08-2005, 09:08 AM
how about the beatles? any band that can make music that survives for generations and generates that many albulms have to be good for something. therefore they are talented at creating high record selling music. what are we debating again?

shirtz
26-08-2005, 12:03 PM
blink 182..... ;)

im a massive fan of muse at the moment. probly the best live band ive ever seen too.

MasterOfReality
26-08-2005, 12:31 PM
If anybody is after some good Dream Theater that covers most of their stuff, get into the live albums, specifically:

1. Once In a Livetime (2 CD's),
2. Live Scenes From New York (3 CD's), &
3. Live At Budokan (3 CD's).

Live Scenes from New York is my personal favourite, followed closely by Live At Budokan (the version of Hollow Years is fantastic in this concert, and so is the Instrumedely).

Iron Maiden also gets my vote, and what about Rush?

freeride_sweet
26-08-2005, 01:52 PM
i got live in new york and live at teh budokan on dvd, hows the instumently thing they play on budokan, simply the best instrumental i have EVER heard, cant say that much even comes close, and hollows years is mad as well,

but getting back to the oldiest the Beatles, great band for the times and they must have gone somthing right to have lasten sooooooooo many years, i have to say that i am a fan, i also like the rollin stones they also have done something right, but not the most techincal bands.

and rush are mad, they have dived under the radar in this thread as well, gread band.

dirt junkie
28-08-2005, 05:06 PM
Noone has said a band/artist I disagree with, but I don't think I saw Mudvayne - LD50 (brilliant and technical album) or Avenged Sevenfold. If epic 9 minute songs with melody, crazy guitar solos and hammering kicks is your thing, get AS.

For just plain insanity, I vote Trivium.

freeride_sweet
28-08-2005, 05:25 PM
mudvayne are sick but, the quitarist sucks balls and the drumer is alrite, but the bass play holds them together imo, cant hear him but hes so god dam good, comes up with the madest stuff

Joel O
28-08-2005, 05:32 PM
well after watching a live dvd last night i decided there is a band that should be mentioned, AC/DC. in particular angus young, some of his stuff is insane.

harrypowell
28-08-2005, 07:03 PM
When i think of talented bands, the first band that comes to my mind is on of my personal favourites is Millencolin.

A Swedish Nu-Metal band for those who dont know, been around for about 10 - 15 years ...

check out:

" Stop to Think "
" No Cigar "
" Kemp "
" Israelites"

zac
29-08-2005, 11:54 AM
I know that`they are not quite as well known (in Australia at least) as Dreamtheater but I am a little surprised that`nobody has mentioned Blind Guardian yet. They are a German outfit who've been around for close to 20 years. They started off doing the usual heavy metal but then in the mid-late 90s they released two albums which changed people's view of them completely: The Forgotten Tales and Nightfall in Middle Earth.

Prior to the release of Forgotten Tales in 96, there was a widely held belief that Hansi Kursch couldn't sing his way out of a wet paper bag. The release of Tokyo Tales (recorded live) did little to alleviate this and it wasn't until Forgotten Tales that Hansi's talent was recognised. There was little in the way of new material on the album, and what was new was very different from anything they had done before (such as a double kick version of Surfin' USA). The album was mainly composed of some older tracks of theirs that had been re-envisioned, such as Theatre of Pain and Lord of the Rings, and a live crowd assisted version of The Bard's Song.

This re-envisioning provided an opening for what is perhaps the best Guardian album yet, Nightfall in Middle Earth, which tells the story of The Silmarillon, Tolkien's prequel to the Lord of the Rings trilogy. If there was one metal album I would recommend to anyone this is it. If you can get a hold of a copy or listen to a few tracks, I'd reccommend Nightfall, Into the Storm, When Sorrow Sang, Time Stands Still, Blood Tears, A Dark Passage and Mirror, Mirror.

Other bands I'd recommend: Iced Earth (especially Something Wicked Thius Way Comes), Demons and Wizards (IE's Jon Schaffer plays and Hansi Kursch sings; bothe albums are great, listen out for Fiddler on the Green and My Last Sunrise) and Nightwish (Once and Wishmaster).

If you haven't heard Nightwish, think Evanescence but replace Amy Lee with a classically trained opera singer with decent songs. They actually sound as though they are part of the orchestra they record with, as opposed to just giving the orchestra a pre written bit of music (S&M anyone?). I'd say keep an ear out for Creek Mary's Blood, Romanticide, Wishmaster and Ghost Love Score.

Just put on train of thought and it is still as good as i remember.

konasaurus
29-08-2005, 11:58 AM
Pelican.....

RCOH
29-08-2005, 12:04 PM
When i think of talented bands, the first band that comes to my mind is on of my personal favourites is Millencolin.

A Swedish Nu-Metal band for those who dont know, been around for about 10 - 15 years ...

check out:

" Stop to Think "
" No Cigar "
" Kemp "
" Israelites"

Millencollin is not Nu-metal. Unless you are listening to a different Millencollin? I know playing the genre game gets a bit out of hand but that is just ridiculous...

ed the frog
29-08-2005, 02:46 PM
Fear Factory are F#$@ing incredible!!

anyone seen them live? i'd love to, missed them both times they were here!
darN!

harrypowell
29-08-2005, 03:08 PM
Millencollin is not Nu-metal. Unless you are listening to a different Millencollin? I know playing the genre game gets a bit out of hand but that is just ridiculous...

lolz, there are so many metal genres, i get mixed up ... my bad

STP_kid
29-08-2005, 03:59 PM
ive never heard of those bands b4 in my life

paulmc213
29-08-2005, 04:37 PM
Great thread this one, I must agree with all the comments on Tool and am keen to listen to all these bands that have been mentioned but I havent heard before.

I must add one band here who I think deserve a mention especially after seeing them live the other night, COG.

Super tight live, their album is fantastic (produced by a former Tool producer in LA, forget their name) and they have an awesome drummer.

My legs are still sore from jumping and I have no voice! They are well worth a listen.

www.cog.com.au

ed the frog
29-08-2005, 04:55 PM
Great thread this one, I must agree with all the comments on Tool and am keen to listen to all these bands that have been mentioned but I havent heard before.

I must add one band here who I think deserve a mention especially after seeing them live the other night, COG.

Super tight live, their album is fantastic (produced by a former Tool producer in LA, forget their name) and they have an awesome drummer.

My legs are still sore from jumping and I have no voice! They are well worth a listen.

www.cog.com.au

good call!! COG are definately are up there in my ranking of tallented bands

local
29-08-2005, 05:37 PM
yeh led zepplin are pretty good i play guitar and some of thier solos are fuckin amazing, also metallicas old stuff would blow me away with some of the solos which were almost endless and at great speeds.

josh
29-08-2005, 06:15 PM
Swedish Nu-Metal band

What the?

Personally, everything after 'The Melancholy Collection' was just a downhill slide :-/

flasher
29-08-2005, 06:50 PM
The Dillinger Escape Plan. Nuff said.

Hah, i didnt exatcly know how insane it would be, when i went to a concert of theirs earlier this year with a mate. It went fucking off, the atmosphere was incredible, and the music, while a bit heavy for my taste, was heavily enjoyable. Did you go?
43% burnt, was the highlight of the concert, was so intense.

But, in my opinion, atreyu take the cake for musically talented, lyrics, music, its all incredible, 'the curse', easily on of my favourite albums ever.

Ben.

Mr Sheen
29-08-2005, 07:20 PM
What the?

Personally, everything after 'The Melancholy Collection' was just a downhill slide :-/
Dam straight! Rancid has some awsome bass lines.

gumbyhead
29-08-2005, 07:46 PM
Yeah saw Fear Factory live at the palais. Have a listen to their old album "Soul of a new machine", has the songs from concrete on it too (check at JB). Absolutely goes off its' tits.

freeride_sweet
29-08-2005, 07:47 PM
When i think of talented bands, the first band that comes to my mind is on of my personal favourites is Millencolin.

A Swedish Nu-Metal band for those who dont know, been around for about 10 - 15 years ...

check out:

" Stop to Think "
" No Cigar "
" Kemp "
" Israelites"

sorry dude, i know youve already copped a banging but come on how could u say that they are a nu metla band, the a just a good yet all the same punk band (i do like them though) wouldnt exacly call them talented either, they write the most boring stuff,

RCOH
30-08-2005, 10:23 AM
) wouldnt exacly call them talented either, they write the most boring stuff,

How many album's have you released?

curtisrider
30-08-2005, 10:46 AM
Some of the newer Avenged Sevenfold stuff it pretty good.

freeride_sweet
30-08-2005, 07:21 PM
How many album's have you released?

well myself none, but i do have a cd with 5 tracks that me and my bank recored (all original), but i find them boring and the same as every other punk band

Kona.S.P
30-08-2005, 07:23 PM
Killswitch Engage, Inflames, Machine Head, The Bezerkers, Breaking Benkimen (sp?), A little bit of AFI every now and again, Hed (p.e), Slipknot, Tool and disturbed are my fav's.

cowboy from hell
30-08-2005, 08:58 PM
you should all go check out some nile <<<<<. if u like death metal it is a very good band. and there coming to aus this year.

konasaurus
30-08-2005, 09:00 PM
you should all go check out some nile <<<<<. if u like death metal it is a very good band. and there coming to aus this year.

yes nile's new album was quite impressive

any idea on who they are touring with ?

konasaurus
30-08-2005, 09:04 PM
I dont think anyone has mentioned floyd yet ... but i suppose it is a given

cowboy from hell
30-08-2005, 09:05 PM
not to sure i think they will most proberly get an aus band to play with them like pyscroptic (real good aussi band)

flasher
30-08-2005, 09:19 PM
Some of the newer Avenged Sevenfold stuff it pretty good.

Yeaaup, for sure, i picked up city of evil pretty much when it first came out, after loving their previous stuff.

Much the goodness in their new cd.
But, their older stuff, in my opinion anyway, is a bit better.

gumbyhead
30-08-2005, 10:52 PM
Yeah second Nile, haven't got the new one yet, but one of my favourite cd's at the moment is shrines. Any idea when they're touring?

danv
30-08-2005, 11:55 PM
Well Kyuss has been menitoned, but i'm suprised Queens of the Stone Age haven't...
Definately my favourite band at the moment. Alot of their songs, including most of their radio hits, aren't all too technical (i'm gauging this by the fact that i can play alot of the riffs, albeit badly), but I think some songs sound more complicated than they are. Some tracks do get quite technical though, particularly songs for the deaf, and the new album lullabies to paralyze.
But as RCOH pointed out so accurately earlier on, musically talented doesn't neccesarily have to mean technically talented. As for specifically defining what it means to be musically talented, I think that's hard. But I do think that, with QOTSA, particularly the first 2 albums, the spirit of the band/music and the spirit of the listeners just clicks for alot of people - go to the QOTSA boards if you want to see what I mean - and I think you could call that musically talented.

Some great bands have been mentioned in this thread, but thus far I haven't really listened to much metal, or Tool and APC. I actually have have a burnt copy of anema sitting in my cd library, but i have put off giving it a first listen to it for quite some time. I basically have a long list of bands to get into, which I know i'm going to love once I get into them. But my tendency is to by an album on a whim, after hearing i song I really like on the radio or somehwere, or buy releases from bands i already love. I also get easily attracted to killer pop music like The Go! Team, you know the stuff that just gives you that familiar rush of blood to the head and giddy feeling when you turn up your headphones; when you hear it on the radio you know you just have to get that song from somewhere to listen to again.
This is all probably indicitive of my laziness. :)

But, while we're talking music, and I hope this isn't going to far Off Topic, I think that the fact I stopped downloading music probably the start of this year (my comp = shit) has really reduced the amount of different music I listen too. I still listen just as much, but usually i'll keep an album on my mp3 player for up to a few weeks, listen to it most days, and when I load a new one on, it's one that has been on not too long ago. I remember when i used to download alot, I would listen to new stuff all the time - download five or six songs from a band I heard and like on the radio, and then you'd usually end up with some obscure Bside that would either make you wonder why it wasn't a single, or you'd grow to love. Just another example of how free music sharing has enhanced somebody's experience with music, and why it should not be stopped, OR be payed for.

mmm farkin. the last resort of the bored drunk :D

kona_ona
31-08-2005, 08:22 AM
you gotta hear sum children of bodom they r awsome, dream theater is good i have 2 of there live dvd's. um opeth symphony x r awsome all these progress bands r sick! planet x r off the show also meshugga r pretty crazy..

MasterOfReality
31-08-2005, 10:33 AM
I just went through my CD collection, looking for more 'musically talented' pieces.

How about:

1. Symphony X (I think somebody already mentioned them),
2. Jason Becker,
3. Vinnie Moore Band,
4. Gary Moore,
5. Pallas,
6. Dead Soul Tribe,
7. Tony Iommi's solo albums (Iommi, and Fused),
8. Soilwork,
9. Translantic

cowboy from hell
31-08-2005, 07:50 PM
you gotta hear sum children of bodom they r awsome, dream theater is good i have 2 of there live dvd's. um opeth symphony x r awsome all these progress bands r sick! planet x r off the show also meshugga r pretty crazy..

yer children of bodom are good. are going to see them when they come to Australia?