Giant Glory or DH Team?

[Wake Jake]

Bike has 9" travel, ad will RETAIL for $2000 for the frame. Thats stupid cheap. Headset is weird, 1.5 lower with a 1 1/8th upper. 150 rear spacing. Complete bike is $5000, with nice ringle bits and Fox 40 RC2.

[topher]

the glory has boxxers on it. Best bet would be to grad a giant catalogue from a bike shop. But i didnt see any dh team in the catalogue, so it may be one of those late entry things. do you know that its stock?could have been modified?

[lotec]

5 grand with 40 rc2s? sorry i find that a LITTLE hard to believe... unless its USD

[Woffa]

its recommened price is $4500 (CAD)

[Woffa]

here is another picture of it!

[Toxic]

That shock mount is just beggin' to be smashed to pieces on the nearest rock.

[Dozer]

not too sure which direction Giant are heading at the moment. The bike looks a little bit too weird. Who knows, it might work really well.....

[DWNHLR01]

Whats the go with that head tube? Too bad if you wanted a new headset...you have to buy a 1 1/8 reducer headset as well as a 1 1/8 headset...I think the 1.5 on the bottom is usless as you wouldn't be able to run anything with a 1.5 steerer...

[MrPlow]

Whats the go with that head tube? Too bad if you wanted a new headset...you have to buy a 1 1/8 reducer headset as well as a 1 1/8 headset...I think the 1.5 on the bottom is usless as you wouldn't be able to run anything with a 1.5 steerer...

Yeh that headset goes to the top of my 'dumbest mtb ideas ever' list.

[bradh]

Looks nice. And I think the headtube is kinda cool.

[Wattsy]

the weirdest part is, that aint the rig randos been riding. and since he had been riding it for close to a year, thats weird for them to change it.

[Tomas]

Bigger bearings on the major load bearing race = longer life etc?

My guess..

God that shock mount is one ugly duckling tho. Giant have a bit of a rep for putting linkages in harms way though...

[RaID]

the weirdest part is, that aint the rig randos been riding. and since he had been riding it for close to a year, thats weird for them to change it.

theyre 2 different frames

the DH Team and the Glory (one shown above)


well the headset makes sense from a structural point of view, ie have the bigger bearings at the bottom of the headtube which is a higher stress area, however very impractical in terms of buying a headset, should have just gone 1.5
i hate it when big companies do shit like this that just screws over the consumer

[shmity]

That shock mount is just beggin' to be smashed to pieces on the nearest rock.
If you're hucking your down tube onto rocks, id pray for any frame you owned.

[lotec]

its recommened price is $4500 (CAD)
so it would be closer to 8k by the time we got it

[S.]

Whats the go with that head tube? Too bad if you wanted a new headset...you have to buy a 1 1/8 reducer headset as well as a 1 1/8 headset...I think the 1.5 on the bottom is usless as you wouldn't be able to run anything with a 1.5 steerer...

Aside from having to buy two headsets instead of one (although I think a lot of companies are willing to sell top and bottom cups separately nowadays?), it's not actually as useless as it may seem. The bottom headset cup is more highly loaded than the top (and when headtubes come off, they usually go from the bottom rather than the top), so you now have a larger weld area for the downtube (which obviously means stronger) and can use a smaller diameter top tube (which means lighter, cheaper [no fancy tube work to bump it out to fit a 1.5 top section] or both - it's pretty rare, from what I've seen, for top tubes to fail in compression before anything else lets go). You also now have the option to run a zero-stack reducer headset to lower your bars/steepen the head angle.

That said, I don't really see any actual advantage; any potential cost savings in making the frame is surely going to be lost by having to go to the bother of getting and installing two different headset cups, and it's going to piss a lot of people off.

[DamoH]

That said, I don't really see any actual advantage; any potential cost savings in making the frame is surely going to be lost by having to go to the bother of getting and installing two different headset cups, and it's going to piss a lot of people off.
You idiot Steve-o

[S.]

You idiot Steve-o

I'LL KILL YOU IN THE FACE. :)

In short... it does kind of make some sense, almost, but sooo not worth it.

[hughy_g]

the glory looks pretty cool
but the linkages are pretty exposed

[TomMc]

my prayers are answered,now to start saving the dosh :rolleyes:

[bolzy]

im not a big fan of that style yet tho havn ridden it so cant really coment on it

[Wattsy]

theyre 2 different frames

the DH Team and the Glory (one shown above)


well the headset makes sense from a structural point of view, ie have the bigger bearings at the bottom of the headtube which is a higher stress area, however very impractical in terms of buying a headset, should have just gone 1.5
i hate it when big companies do shit like this that just screws over the consumer

ah true, so i guess the glory maybe giants backup for the legal problems they have on the faith frames?

[Wake Jake]

Yeah the've had a bit of trouble with the frames

[Busty]

I think the Glory is BUTT F**KEN ugly man!!

[Woffa]

here is anothe rpic of it! I think they will make a special guard to go over the shock it looks pretty easy to do.

[Wattsy]

i dunno bout you guys but i dont think i have ever even come close to hitting that part of my frame, unless u came up short on a fence gap.
i think its fine where it is, it just looks ugly as fu.....

[Woffa]

i found some closer pics of the shock!

[TomMc]

paparoach where did you get the details from e.g prices

[Cletus]

yep definatly an ugly frame, and man i hate that transparent blue, every time i see it i just think kmart or bully ;)

[stinkyfreak]

its different to anyhtin i have seen before. but it still looks good.

[pedal'pedal'pedal!!!]

im sure it works well but it looks like it has its ''glory'' hanging out the down tube

[Wake Jake]

Anyone really know when they will be coming out here?

[Frantic_on_manik]

so wat happens when it get wet? the mud is just gonne fill up ur shock and stuff ooo and little rocks maybe its time giant stopped trying to inovate all there doing is wrecking every good thing thy chance upon im mean the 04 ac1 was the best cheap free ride bike but no they fcked it up in 05 and giants not alone the 06 norcos look gay ooooooo the humanity

[DirtFix]

Personally i dont care what it LOOKS like, i am more interested in how it performs. And since NONE of you have actualy riden one, i dont think your comments have any merit except for COSMETIC opinions. I am a fan of Giant bikes becuase they are cheap and effective. You can go to the store and actually buy what the current sponsored riders have (excluding prototypes) and there fore have no exuse for not riding as fast as them except for your own ability, as you have the SAME equiptment. I have a Giant DH comp and yes i have smashed up the linkage a couple of times but i am a hack of a rider. I am sure a pro doesnt have as much trouble. But by the way this frame looks, if you smash that part of ANY bike you are in serious trouble anyway. My 2 cents.

[and1]

any idea why giant is moving away from manitou? Last few years most giant bikes have been specced out with a manitou fork and or swinger shock. The new lineups are specced mostly with marzocchi/fox and occasionally rock shox. That bike looks hideous with 40's on the front of it.

[Christo]

any idea why giant is moving away from manitou? Last few years most giant bikes have been specced out with a manitou fork and or swinger shock. The new lineups are specced mostly with marzocchi/fox and occasionally rock shox. That bike looks hideous with 40's on the front of it.

40's make everything better looking - I might save up for some to carry 'round - I might get a root then...

Except the only offers would be from dudes on Farkin....

Yeah, unconventional looking, but I'm sure it works well, I'd ride one anyday - Giant are bringing freeride to the masses - good on 'em....

[jamit]

Personally i dont care what it LOOKS like, i am more interested in how it performs. And since NONE of you have actualy riden one, i dont think your comments have any merit except for COSMETIC opinions. I am a fan of Giant bikes becuase they are cheap and effective. You can go to the store and actually buy what the current sponsored riders have (excluding prototypes) and there fore have no exuse for not riding as fast as them except for your own ability, as you have the SAME equiptment.


Well said..

[bradh]

You can go to the store and actually buy what the current sponsored riders have (excluding prototypes)
How is Giant different in that regard to pretty much every other brand out there?

[whywalkwhenucanroll]

Looks like a sweet machine and 40's make anything look good. I can't believe people don't like the blue! Interesting shock mount, though i cant imagine that it'd get hit much. rocks would have to get through the front wheel and the BB first. Unless they were those bastard little pebbles that kick up off your wheel in which case they'd hit the downtube anyways. and has anyone ever been on a wet ride and not got shit all over their shock? Unless of course they have a sock on it...

[roasted]

Personally i dont care what it LOOKS like, i am more interested in how it performs. And since NONE of you have actualy riden one, i dont think your comments have any merit except for COSMETIC opinions.

I had a decent ride of rando's prototype down at thredbo, almos tthe same, excep the shock mount was in the same place but machined differently, and the headtube was different.

and I can say this. it SHITS all over the other Giant DH bikes, which are radtastic as is. hooks up damn good, pedals well, but is still plush. that said, I havent had a super-long ride on one, but my initial impressions are good.

[DirtFix]

How is Giant different in that regard to pretty much every other brand out there?
As far as i know, Giant were one of the first companys to do so, and since a good portion of the bicycle industrys frames are produced from a Giant factory, then it was obvious it was a good move.

[Wake Jake]

Giant's bikes are some of the best value out there today.

[spam]

the new shock mounting will make it easier to get to the adjuster kno at the bottom than on the old ones...

[Icarus]

ah true, so i guess the glory maybe giants backup for the legal problems they have on the faith frames?

So what, are they releasing both (like the Comp/Team thing) or just to stoopid-lookin' Glory?

[spinner]

So what, are they releasing both (like the Comp/Team thing) or just to stoopid-lookin' Glory?

The ' 06 Comp is available now and the Glory will replace the Team , released early next year I have heard.

[Wake Jake]

Comp is good value, but the colours not my taste.

[DirtFix]

Nothing a spray job wouldnt fix. ;) I am not big on the green either, but you cant go past it for value.

[Anthonaut]

I love the green, couldn't wait till that colour came out here and now it has, stoked!

I'm all about individual rides and that green just does it for me.

[dirt rider]

so is this bike known as a dh rig ONLY or is it meant to take the drops aswell ?
and i really like the look of it
cheers

[aaronzor]

id pound it ;)

[slo]

That shock mount is just beggin' to be smashed to pieces on the nearest rock.

huck to downtube is definately one of my favourtie moves too