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dan-0
21-10-2005, 11:35 AM
Hello fellow bikers

At the begining of September a guy called [Admin - No real name needed], Farkin name; Bire sold various parts off a Giant ATX DH2. I bought the frame and other Farkin members bought the remains like; forks, wheels, saddles etc. It has been almost 7 weeks since we purchased these items and he has shown NO sign of sending them.

If anyone has dealt with bire please dont hesitate to reply.

Ryan
23-10-2005, 11:51 AM
This was removed for the use of the user-in-questions real name and is now "back up in the spot" as it were.

Red Rocket
23-10-2005, 01:06 PM
Hello fellow bikers

At the begining of September a guy called [Admin - No real name needed], Farkin name; Bire sold various parts off a Giant ATX DH2. I bought the frame and other Farkin members bought the remains like; forks, wheels, saddles etc. It has been almost 7 weeks since we purchased these items and he has shown NO sign of sending them.

If anyone has dealt with bire please dont hesitate to reply.

Have you spoken directly to him, I.e. a phonecall?

riden_4life
23-10-2005, 02:08 PM
:eek: thats realy not cool. Do you know for a fact that he hasnt sent the stuff to the other people, cause he could have accidintly sent your frame to one of the other people he was dealing with.

Mr jesus
23-10-2005, 06:59 PM
Man that must suck i was thinking that might happen to me when i was buying stuff but i was lucky. feeling your pain mate:(

demo man
23-10-2005, 08:05 PM
**legal action!**

do something!
have you sent him craploads of PM's and craploads of e-mails and called him lots of times?

what has he used as an excuse for not sending the stuff?
if he has not responded to anytjhing then i'd say it's time to see what you can do to either get you're money back or get your product from him...

what a ****wit.

johnny
23-10-2005, 08:10 PM
got to be able to find him before you can launch any legal action. I don't think it's the way to go, I'd opt for public outing and humiliation within the comunity myself.

GuRhInDiZzLe
23-10-2005, 08:12 PM
if anyone has sent anything to him post up his adres and we can all go and deficate on his lawn

johnny
23-10-2005, 08:21 PM
No, don't post his address. Any member doing this will take a holiday. Send his details to Dan-0 instead. It's his issue, not yours.

GuRhInDiZzLe
23-10-2005, 08:43 PM
and dan o can deficate all over this guys hood

Dim
23-10-2005, 08:47 PM
and dan o can deficate all over this guys hood

Post something worth while or dont post, just wasted 1 minute of my HSC time, i should be studying for Maths tomorrow


I am sure Dan-o is quite capable of dealing with this, my only advice to him would be to work with johnny, he has army friends :p

dromana7411
24-10-2005, 08:15 AM
hey... i have traded with Bire. i sold him my helmet, no hastles... give me a PM dan-o, i might be able to help you out, or anyone else having problems with him.

bryce.

alo feel free to add me to msn for anything else.. as i will be on it more than hear.

bmx7411@hotmail.com

dan-0
24-10-2005, 02:45 PM
Hey guys thanks for your support.

Yeh I have sent him over 20 PMs, I ring about 6 times a week. Twice he has picked up and both times said "ill post it tomorrow". The last time I spoke to him was 2 weeks ago... Still waiting.

Another farkin member has been to his house and seen the actual frame that I paid for. So he dosnt really sound like he was out for a scam but more of a LAZY DISRASPECTFUL LYING TWAT.

And trust me GuRhInDiZzLe id do more than shat on his lawn:eek:
I should start training to be a Police Officer in January, so hopefuly ill be able to pay him a little visit with authority.

Jacko Wacko
24-10-2005, 04:18 PM
and dan o can deficate all over this guys hood

whats with you and shiting on stuff?


i'd say ring him up on the phone, but depending on how much you payed you might want to think about legal action

bighitter
24-10-2005, 09:59 PM
If you know where he lives, why not pay him a little visit and take the frame off his hands ? maybe take a couple of your larger/angrier friends with you to intimidate him a bit.
BTW how did you pay for the frame ? and how much

dan-0
24-10-2005, 10:03 PM
If you know where he lives, why not pay him a little visit and take the frame off his hands ? maybe take a couple of your larger/angrier friends with you to intimidate him a bit.
BTW how did you pay for the frame ? and how much

Damn right. Its an old 99 ATX DH2 so I only paid $400. Direct deposit was the way.

Butch
24-10-2005, 10:20 PM
whats with you and shiting on stuff?


i'd say ring him up on the phone, but depending on how much you payed you might want to think about legal action

clearly you havent seen deuce biggalow 2 , reminds me of how i kept poor j5ive waiting on forks for chairity bike :( sorry dude , hope all goes well

gabdy
24-10-2005, 10:23 PM
Hey Dan-0, if you paid by Direct Deposit you obviously have his name and account number and hopefully receipt of payment. Contact the police and say you have been frauded by this troglidite, if you make an official complaint with the cops they have to follow it through, if you don't get a real response from the cops contact your local ombudsman. Fraud is a major crime and a phone call and\or visit from the maggots sorry boys in blue should do the trick. This is internet fraud and the penalties are getting greater all the time.
I work hard for $400 and I'm sure you do too, don't let him get away with it. It is just crap how people treat each other these days. Face to face people don't have the gonads to be rude, but when they can hide behind the internet they're all hero's. Take him to the cleaners.

Crimes
Fraud
Internet fraud
Making personal gain by decpetion
being a jerk off, sorry that one slipped in.

Butch
24-10-2005, 10:24 PM
Post something worth while or dont post, just wasted 1 minute of my HSC time, i should be studying for Maths tomorrow


I am sure Dan-o is quite capable of dealing with this, my only advice to him would be to work with johnny, he has army friends :p


private school boy , go study , i dnt give a shit bout ur study boy , unless u give me a u.a.i hehe all best for that dimmy :P , and stop pickin on ben :P

dan-0
25-10-2005, 11:08 AM
Hey Dan-0, if you paid by Direct Deposit you obviously have his name and account number and hopefully receipt of payment. Contact the police and say you have been frauded by this troglidite, if you make an official complaint with the cops they have to follow it through, if you don't get a real response from the cops contact your local ombudsman. Fraud is a major crime and a phone call and\or visit from the maggots sorry boys in blue should do the trick. This is internet fraud and the penalties are getting greater all the time.
I work hard for $400 and I'm sure you do too, don't let him get away with it. It is just crap how people treat each other these days. Face to face people don't have the gonads to be rude, but when they can hide behind the internet they're all hero's. Take him to the cleaners.

Crimes
Fraud
Internet fraud
Making personal gain by decpetion
being a jerk off, sorry that one slipped in.

Nice choice of words. Thanks for ya feed back dude, Im going to ring the fuzz now.

mani(a)c
25-10-2005, 07:56 PM
just wanted to say i had no trouble with bire the wheels he sold me are turning round nicely on my bike

sockman
25-10-2005, 08:03 PM
mabey bire is lazy like half this godforsaken planet??
what tha fuzz say??

bighitter
25-10-2005, 10:52 PM
Maybe he is lazy but that doesnt allow him to defraud anyone. If i bought something with my hard earned $$$'s and six weeks later and after many emails. pm's and whatever else, i had no frame and no response Id be onto the cops hell , i would"nt even wait 6 weeks. and if i knew where he lived id take a drive down and pick it up, and maybe some other stuff ;)

dan-0
26-10-2005, 02:04 PM
Im thinking of flying down, its only $69. I know I only paid $400, but it makes me sick knowing that someone can just take my hard earned money with just a few minutes infront of a keyboard! Im a security guard so that money wasnt easy to earn either.

It the 8th week now and I havnt rode since i paid for the frame. having serious withdrawls. The police just recommended me to Australian Competition and Consumer Commission (ACCC) and Office of Fair Trading, waiting to hear back from them. Im also booked in to talk to some legal advisors.

If anyone lives near Frankston, Melbourne, give me a PM and you can earn ya self 50bucks if you pick the frame up for me.

j5ive
26-10-2005, 02:14 PM
clearly you havent seen deuce biggalow 2 , reminds me of how i kept poor j5ive waiting on forks for chairity bike :( sorry dude , hope all goes well

Hehe, I still havent paid you- so we are square :P

If you want them back let me know, otherwise I will sell them off and give you the $.

RCOH
26-10-2005, 03:34 PM
Have patience, my young padowan, don't stop trying to contact him even if he doesn't reply.

I had some hassles with a member on farkin over money that he owed me, it took over 18 months but I got my cash in the end.

bighitter
26-10-2005, 04:17 PM
I had some hassles with a member on farkin over money that he owed me, it took over 18 months but I got my cash in the end.

Your a more patient man than ill ever be :p

toodles
26-10-2005, 07:05 PM
I had some hassles with a member on farkin over money that he owed me, it took over 18 months but I got my cash in the end.

:eek: 18 months!? Sheesh... I would have flipped and hunted them to the ground. No way I would keep my cool that long. Unless when you say it took you 18 months you mean that's how long it took until you found a buyer for the organs you harvested from his corpse. Because that's my suggestion...

-DAvo
26-10-2005, 07:13 PM
Im a security guard so that money wasnt easy to earn either.
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bet his wishing he never stuffed you around now eh? :p

anyway that really sucks to hear man, i cant stand people with bad buying/selling ethics.. luckily all the people ive bought/sold to are great people... and lucky to have spotted a few punks before going into business with em..

..anyway hope everything works out for you.

just wondering, what can the ACCC do? can they acctually press charges against this guy?

Benana
26-10-2005, 07:36 PM
hey, i have spoken with dan-o about this as i have had trouble with the same user

ive paid for my product and have not recieved it, i was told it was sent and later was told it wasnt. Have tried to contact the seller multiple time via p.ms, email, and mobile only to get no response

topher
26-10-2005, 07:41 PM
I live in donvale well, frankston is easy for me just catch a train there whoever wants me to pick up there stuff i can go get it for them if they really wish. PM if you wish and we will chat!

Elbo
26-10-2005, 08:51 PM
I have just been looking at this Bire's profile in the member list, his last activity was today at 10:27 am, so he is still active. If you check out all the threads he has started, and a majority of his posts, they are all in the trading area.. so he has a lot of shit to sell, for being a member for only 5 months (just feels a bit suspicious).
It says he is not a member of the trading access group, have admins disabled that, because i think thats a good move.

bire
27-10-2005, 10:36 AM
to all that have been bitching moaning and crying about this .
i am sorry for the lack of postage .
i have been through a messy beak up and my ex was surposed to be sendin the stuff i am currently in sydney but as soon as i get back (sunday night) i will get the stuff sent out i have already contacted a few of you .
regards bire

johnny
27-10-2005, 10:50 AM
Dude, we've had words in the past and it seems like we are going to go through it again.

How the FUCK can you accuse people of whinging and bitching FFS!!?? YOU OWE PEOPLE AND YOU HAVEN'T COUGHED UP OR LET THEM KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON!!! I sympathise with your break up situation more than you are aware, but that's YOUR problem. Don't fuck people around and then accuse THEM of crying over it!! Wouldn't you be a little pissed if you'd payed for something and got nothing? Use your fucking head mate!!??

Get your fucking shit sorted out and stop being a fuckwit to those you should be appologising to!

Benana
27-10-2005, 11:09 AM
spoken to bire

sorted out our deal

give him a call, u should easily be able to sort it out, if u need his number shoot me a p.m

bire
27-10-2005, 03:51 PM
sorted it all out with the guys . sorry again guys.


also for the record JOHNNY YOU ARE A TOP BLOKE AND YOU ARE 100% CORRECT!

S.
27-10-2005, 04:03 PM
a) homophobic comments will get you banned, not that that wasn't on the cards going by your behaviour anyway
b) he had a fair point.

crabapple hitz
27-10-2005, 04:04 PM
How funny is that.
He's still trying to sell stuff after all that.

Binaural
27-10-2005, 05:26 PM
sorted it all out with the guys . sorry again guys.


also for the record JOHNNY GET FUCKED YOU FAG!

Sorry again? What, you said it the first time? Go try eBay if you want to shamelessly scam people and waste WEEKS of their time, loser.

demo man
27-10-2005, 05:35 PM
note that bire does no longer have trading access.

good move, although i would have considered banning him myself (actually, i'm sure that they did consider it quite seriously!)

next time, if we are ever stupid enough to let you have a next time, how about you show some common courtesy and behave like an adult, instead of doing what you have done (Johnny quite fairly pointed it out). you were in the wrong, by a long way.

dm

bighitter
28-10-2005, 09:50 AM
The only reason hes surfaced on the issue is because it all turned serious with the talk of legal action and people threatening to come and pick their parts up, Did you think everyone who paid you for stuff would just forget about it ?
You've been active on farkin the whole time this has been going on, trying to sell more shit, and people claim they were sending you dozens of pm's and emails which you would have got, So how can you claim that you knew nothing about this and it was all down to the ex girlfriend not sending off your parts, I mean why the fuck would she ?
Its all bullshit.

S.
28-10-2005, 03:25 PM
To those people trying to sort out their trades with Bire, please inform the admin team (via PM) of the eventual outcome once it's over and done with.

Dumbellina
28-10-2005, 03:39 PM
Dude, we've had words in the past and it seems like we are going to go through it again.

How the FUCK can you accuse people of whinging and bitching FFS!!?? YOU OWE PEOPLE AND YOU HAVEN'T COUGHED UP OR LET THEM KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON!!! I sympathise with your break up situation more than you are aware, but that's YOUR problem. Don't fuck people around and then accuse THEM of crying over it!! Wouldn't you be a little pissed if you'd payed for something and got nothing? Use your fucking head mate!!??

Get your fucking shit sorted out and stop being a fuckwit to those you should be appologising to!

Man, there's some strong adult themes in that post. Remind me never to rip Johnny off.

Like others have said, the sale and purchasing of goods is serious business. You rip someone off, there are very serious consequences. You could go to gaol for defrauding someone, you could get charged for fraud or theft. If you can't make the transaction, negotiate directly with the other party - that is your legal duty.

DirtFix
29-10-2005, 04:16 PM
Please post up here if your deal went through or not. I would be VERY interested to know. Cheers.

Mugger
29-10-2005, 10:38 PM
bire = owned :D

dan-0
01-11-2005, 10:04 AM
Bire said he was getting home on sunday and will post monday. I asked him to PM me when he has. Im still waiting

johnny
01-11-2005, 10:11 AM
Thanks, keep us posted if you can. Same goes for all others who are waiting on parts from Bire.

berkyburger123
01-11-2005, 04:27 PM
Dude, we've had words in the past and it seems like we are going to go through it again.

How the FUCK can you accuse people of whinging and bitching FFS!!?? YOU OWE PEOPLE AND YOU HAVEN'T COUGHED UP OR LET THEM KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON!!! I sympathise with your break up situation more than you are aware, but that's YOUR problem. Don't fuck people around and then accuse THEM of crying over it!! Wouldn't you be a little pissed if you'd payed for something and got nothing? Use your fucking head mate!!??

Get your fucking shit sorted out and stop being a fuckwit to those you should be appologising to!

also for the record JOHNNY YOU ARE A TOP BLOKE AND YOU ARE 100% CORRECT!__________________
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Last edited by johnny : 28-10-2005 at 07:33 PM.


Thats what I call super moderation. Love your work johnny.

But seriously this prick shouldnt get away wit this. He really has one hell of a hole to climb out of.



tool....

dan-0
02-11-2005, 02:32 PM
Has anyone recieved their items yet?? Bire said he will post monday, than tuesday he said he is at the melbourne cup and will post wednesday. Deja vou

freeride_sweet
02-11-2005, 05:09 PM
Has anyone recieved their items yet?? Bire said he will post monday, than tuesday he said he is at the melbourne cup and will post wednesday. Deja vou

yes this does seem fishy, but even if he did send them off on monday, the proply woulndn,t have been touched till weds, but keep trying to contact him cause u dont want him to studge u again,

but wat i dont understand is if u know where he lives y don't u just bang on his door and ask WTF IS GOING ON, maybe have a bat in the car or something, then youll have the goods and you can forget about this tool and get riding,

ps. dont forget to ask for postage back :p

johnny
02-11-2005, 05:31 PM
What makes you think they live in the same state?

bighitter
02-11-2005, 05:51 PM
even better, go around there with the bat, get your money back and take the frame :cool:

berkyburger123
02-11-2005, 06:32 PM
no thats not the way to go about it. That makes u as bad as him. Violence isnt the answer

Just sort it our legally

anyway whats worse, a week in hospital or yrs in jail?

Bogaurd
02-11-2005, 10:14 PM
Jail, obviously :P

bire
03-11-2005, 10:42 AM
Has anyone recieved their items yet?? Bire said he will post monday, than tuesday he said he is at the melbourne cup and will post wednesday. Deja vou
for the record i never said i was at the melbourne cup , i said due to the melbournei was unable to send
the items have been sent .

Grip
03-11-2005, 12:38 PM
for the record i never said i was at the melbourne cup , i said due to the melbournei was unable to send
the items have been sent .

Well for the record NOW then... have all the items you owe people been sent yet? Simple question, requiring only a simple answer.

And BTW it is now THURSDAY (in case you've missed that)

johnny
03-11-2005, 12:49 PM
No more excuses mate, just take care of your responsibilities. I would like you to place yourself in the other people's position. they've paid money and so far received nothing for it. This is pretty abnormal for this site and I'm sincerely hoping that you will honour your commitments without any further delay and not leave this as a black mark on Farkin's trading history.

bire
03-11-2005, 01:23 PM
all the 3 items have been sent off,
i have been in touch with all parties involved.
sorry for any problems farkin.
it was unacceptable treatment of this forum
.
regards bire

bire
03-11-2005, 01:33 PM
hey, i have spoken with dan-o about this as i have had trouble with the same user

ive paid for my product and have not recieved it, i was told it was sent and later was told it wasnt. Have tried to contact the seller multiple time via p.ms, email, and mobile only to get no response

Also just to make ONE THING CLEAR this member wasnt waiting for a product at all , the seat in question he has not payed for yet,
he payed me a deposit and told me he would pay the rest the following week yet i didnt recieve the funds .
although i have done the wrong thing by the other two in question i did nothing wrong in this kids case he is mearly jumping on the band wagon.
regards bire

poridge
04-11-2005, 08:36 PM
Watch this space kids! I'm still waiting for my parts. Acording to this thread, they were posted yesterday when he said they were posted on 28/10 (last Thurs) but have not been contacted since 27/10..........IM STILL WAITING.....:mad:

berkyburger123
04-11-2005, 08:40 PM
no thats not the way to go about it. That makes u as bad as him. Violence isnt the answer

Just sort it our legally

anyway whats worse, a week in hospital or yrs in jail?

Ok now i take it back violence is starting to sound ok.......

Bire, get your shit together.

dan-0
06-11-2005, 09:12 AM
Hey Poridge, what did you pay for?

bire
07-11-2005, 03:44 AM
they have been sent guys .

dan-0
07-11-2005, 04:10 PM
Hey guys I got my frame.

poridge
08-11-2005, 11:23 AM
Anyone still waiting on parts from this....person....or has he finally coughed up:eek:

poridge
10-11-2005, 08:35 PM
Ok, was told to hold this until the right time..ie; NOW. So lets bring it....

Well, finally Mr postman delivered a package for me, a set of brakes from 'bire'. Farkin unbelievable!! Since 14 Sep I have been waiting for these. What a pain in the arse this has been all because of one lame, lazy, inconsiderate, pissweak, poor excuse for a MTB'er. 'bire', you suck! Now Fark off you Farkin Farkwit and bury your head in a bucket if misery and shame. I call for this Farkwit to be finally banned from this site! He is out of the trading forum already but, im my eyes, 'bire' is not fit be be a member of this "community". All those who agree post here. Now, Fark all this BS, I'm putting my brakes on my bike and going riding....... :D

bire
11-11-2005, 08:27 AM
jusr dont forget mate i know where u live,
i am understanding to ur upset and i am sorry for the delay .
but being just a plain old smart ass will get you into alot of trouble.
as for my ridng skills i would love to meet you out one day and make you feel like more of a dick.
maybe just keep your mouth shut little man as i dont wanna have to make you upset again.hope all is well poridge.

NeBoS
11-11-2005, 08:29 AM
jusr dont forget mate i know where u live,
i am understanding to ur upset and i am sorry for the delay .
but being just a plain old smart ass will get you into alot of trouble.
as for my ridng skills i would love to meet you out one day and make you feel like more of a dick.
maybe just keep your mouth shut little man as i dont wanna have to make you upset again.hope all is well poridge.

:rolleyes: Come on now, dont be like that...

S.
11-11-2005, 08:29 AM
Has everyone got their stuff now or not?

bire
11-11-2005, 08:35 AM
Yes Everybody Has Got There Stuff.

johnny
11-11-2005, 08:38 AM
Good, you can go away now.

johnny
11-11-2005, 08:48 AM
I am very sorry that this unfortunate incident has happened. Of course problems can occur when trading, it's not a perfect world. But the way bire conducted himself in light of this issue was reprehensible. Not only did he fail to promptly send these items after they had been paid for, but he had very little contact with those who where owed items, he was abusive and condescending to them when they rightfuly began to complain and he has issued any number of threats of violence and destruction.

A note to you bire, no one takes your threats seriously.

bire has also used discriminatory language, outright abuse and name calling and has not been a constructive member on Farkin. It's unfortunate that he had to be banned, but I believe it to be in the best interests of the site and its members. Please take note of this issue and its outcomes, I think it's a good vote for COD payment methods.

bire, if you think you have been hard done by, go over the for sale forums and see if we've had any trouble like this before. I think you'll find you aare the only person for years who has behaved like this. Therefore I'm sure you'll be able to understand why you are no longer welcome. Plus, no one here likes you anymore anyway.

I hope you learn from your mistakes.

Cedric.Marx
11-11-2005, 10:49 AM
jusr dont forget mate i know where u live,
i am understanding to ur upset and i am sorry for the delay .
but being just a plain old smart ass will get you into alot of trouble.
as for my ridng skills i would love to meet you out one day and make you feel like more of a dick.
maybe just keep your mouth shut little man as i dont wanna have to make you upset again.hope all is well poridge.

You sir, are a moron. Why is it that people feel they can act so big and tough from behind their little computers? :rolleyes:

johnny
11-11-2005, 10:54 AM
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y292/Johnnylovegod/Internethero.jpg

notb4dinner
11-11-2005, 11:02 AM
And just to add to Johny's comment John Gabriel's Greater Internet Fuckwad Theory (http://www.penny-arcade.com/view.php?date=2004-03-19).

poridge
11-11-2005, 06:54 PM
bire's parting gift to me; via PM

"you give me ur name and address then shart to give me shit again?
not a smart move buddy.
ill be seeing you REAL SOON"

I hope he likes tea and scones.......

Grip
11-11-2005, 07:01 PM
bire's parting gift to me; via PM

"you give me ur name and address then shart to give me shit again?
not a smart move buddy.
ill be seeing you REAL SOON"

I hope he likes tea and scones.......

Reads like a threat to me. If I were you I'd give that and ALL the details you have on this guy (you must have some) to the local boys in blue.

PS. Does anyone ACTUALLY know this tool Bire? And exactly how many times was he dropped on his head as a baby?:rolleyes:

Christo
11-11-2005, 10:22 PM
PS. Does anyone ACTUALLY know this tool Bire? And exactly how many times was he dropped on his head as a baby?:rolleyes:

Pleased to say I don't but let's name & shame him eh?... Like the press does to paedophiles.

What's slander?

S.
11-11-2005, 10:31 PM
It's not our place to publicly name him or try to take this any further ourselves. This thread is done with now, if anyone has a reason why they would like it re-opened please PM me.