Originality In Trails

[youngy69]

hey i was just wondering about other peoples thoughts/ideas on freeride trails.. the way things are going at the moment.. a "freeride/slopestyle" course has some northshore bridges.. some big jump lines a wallride or two and usualy some big drops or "hucks".. i wanted to know what ideas you have on what could be unique and individual so to speak.. to put a more of an australian touch into a freeride track.. say i was going to build one.. jus wanted to know what you would put in it and why.. becuase bringing in a different/australian touch to the freeride trail as we know it could be a pretty good thing.
cheers

[Venciferus]

I have metioned rocks before, at a place like barjarg, HUGE rocks you could build cool lines on them.

[donthucktoflat]

how about a jump over a tree branch a-la-aaron chase' handplant tree jump.

maybe integrating more boulders into stunts.. ie, ladders (metal stanley ones:p ) up and then a drop off sorta thing.. lots of rocks out here so why not use em!

[youngy69]

hey thanks for your input guys.. much appreciated.. wot ideas would u have about quite steepcountry.. big forest.. the farm i grew up on backs onto the national park which is the foothills of the great dividing range and im putting a trail in.. its big trees and steep.. any ideas for that kind of terrain??
any help would be much appreciated.. i jus want some sort of diversity for this trail thats all..
cheers

[demo man]

ahh, you're not planning on building in the National Park are you? because that would be stupid and cause damage to mountain biking as a sport in your area. i'm sure you have permission to build whereever you are planning to build, right?

when you think of Aus. what do you imagine?

i think of a Uluru, which is one of our biggest landmarks, and that's a huge frigging rock.

if i were you i'd find the biggest rock you can, and plan the track so that you can use that as your biggest feature. Aus. is a rocky place, so use that. if you want a wallride, try and use a rock as your wall, or the jump onto it, or the landing. if you want a huck, then that's easy, find a rock, make a roll-up onto it, and then make a landing on the other side. if you want some big jump lines try and fit in some blind hips over big arse rocks.

what else do you think of when it comes to Aus.?

i think cliffs, desert, Sydney Opera House, Sydney Harbour Bridge, that sort of thing. if you want to makle a trail that really shows a lot about Aus, then make a feature that in some way represents a landmark or feature of Australia.
whether that means a model of the SOH in the gap of a jump or a north shore bridge that looks exactly like the SHB, it doesn't matter, be creative.

just make sure you think about water drainage, i can't stress that enough. do not ever build a track that goes straight down the hill either, that just invites the water to rut it out!

any built up stuff (wooden things, berms held up by rocks etc.) need checking on, so look after your shit once you have built it. and build it well.


and, just to re-cap - DO NOT BUILD A TRACK IF YOU DO NOT HAVE PERMISSION TO USE THE LAND.

EDIT:
read the post in 'general mtb' about trail stuff, that's half decent. if you can, get your hands on "trail Solutions", the IMBA trail building book. $50 through MTBA. oh yeah, and look at the IMBA website. IMBA have built up a process of building trails that is unrivalled, and will guarentee you sustainability and endurance.

[I-AM-TEH-FASTEST-11]

ahh, you're not planning on building in the National Park are you? because that would be stupid and cause damage to mountain biking as a sport in your area. i'm sure you have permission to build whereever you are planning to build, right?


man you're a tool




anyway... originality should be also personal. Try and think of things yourself so at the end you can be proud of what you did, not something a bunch of lil kids told you to do.
I don't really understand what an "Australian touch" is. We don't have our own identity... I mean maybe you could build a track that swtichbacks for 18 minutes down a 100 metre slope.. that's pretty aussie.
haha

good luck

[Plow King]

I mean maybe you could build a track that swtichbacks for 18 minutes.



Build it!!

[bazza]

if anoyone has riden robsons up in cairns they will understand what rock rollers are hahaha. or in kranked 3 i think there was a decent segment as well.

[Tomas]

man you're a tool



Nope, just being responsible.

[youngy69]

hey the terrain is steep and ferny.. wot are your thoughts on trails for terrain like that?

[tonka_202]

hey the terrain is steep and ferny.. wot are your thoughts on trails for terrain like that?


sounds good should be easy to clear your trail the just put lots of little pumps in it and put like little jumps everywhere.

[Maris]

Something i like that i saw at a local track is having multiple trails/routes in certain sections with transfers going between them, lets you mix it up each time for even more fun.

[berkyburger123]

Ok well i came up with something and its hard to describe so i did a terrible paint thingy of it to help with it.

Anyway, there it is like the an industrie logo where the straight sides are all ramps to jump the table on your line of the x/t shape. Then the curved sides of it are berms that link up and make loops outside the shape so that u cna come bakc in at oit form a different angle. It is a bad paint thing ill try get a better illustration up later but heres the basic idea minus the outside berms that link each side.


Basically green is outside the trail, white is part of the trail (inc berms) cream is flat one top of table, brown/orange is the ramp and immediate trail near it

[sammydog]

.. wot ideas would u have about quite steepcountry.. big forest.. the farm i grew up on backs onto the national park which is the foothills of the great dividing range and im putting a trail in.. its big trees and steep.. any ideas for that kind of terrain??


Your in the newcastle area right??

If you are thining of building in the National Park, please don't. We are having enough problems with the NPWS in Newcastle as it is. We don't need another problem to add to the list.

If your staying on your own land, then good luck with your trail.

[olly1oo6]

Stepup-to-manual-to-drops are bloody mint
Plain stepups
Hips are usually forgotten
A drop with a very steep transition = drop to manual
Double drops, or gap-to-drop mix things well (must be well built)
Wallrides are overdone and overrated but still work well
Berm to drop, berm to hip

[cheggy]

I always like the kicker to large rock to tranny like in NWD5. I would love to see a bridge made of planks of wood tied together with rope so that it sways a little. Not so much movement that it's dodgy, just a little so that it's sketchy.

[FR fraca]

when i build i build to unique features which as far as i have found is rocks wether it be rock rolls, drops wallrides i have done them all and it works nicely, only problem in australia is the dry dirt generally isnt great for building big jumps or what ever unless you find a gully or something where it is generally wetter than elsewhere.

1. have a plan
2. have friends
3. start small dont try build crankworx try a fast single track or something and as you get better so will your tracks.
4. finish the bloody thing ( if there is one thing worse than a track on private land its a half finished one.)

[style wiskey]

Berm to drop, berm to hip


Berm to drop to berm, berm to hip to berm... much better idea I think.

[Speedy]

How big are the ferns? In one section of NWD 6 Basiogatta is riding some jumps along a track where the ferns are higher than head hight and so think you can see through them so the camera is set just above this and you just see him pop in and our of the green, it was pretty sweet. Steep is great make the most of that ie stright down the steepest parts over rock, jumps etc real shite yourself riding.

[S_M_I_D_D_Y]

This track is under way. on privete property. Youngy hasnt been involved in it yet. When it is finished it will be crazy. Keep a eye out for it in the next clict DVD and mag. so far it has a fireroad which will be at least as fast as thredbo, a couple of nice sized jumps (15-20 meters paced out) and a couple of nice size drops

[matty_101]

good luck dude i hope it works out really well

[whywalkwhenucanroll]

be careful with steep ground and ferns cos usually the ferns are whats holding the soil in place. (in the Blue MNTS anyway.) If you just make a track that goes straight down then you'll end up with so much speed it'll be crap. Winding down is good and more challenging because you can use the speed safer and whipe it off when you need + corners are cool, makes the whole track longer too.

for an Aussie bit apart from rocks... well um... red dirt, a sled saw and a high jump thingy... just make it rough and fast.

Good luck dude.