Bike Jacking in Homebush 3rd july

[samh]

Today (3rd July) my giant AC was ripped off me when two 18 year olds through me from my bike and rode off with it from the homebush 4x track.

Bike details
-2003 Giant AC3 , Black frame, red shock
-Junior T's with gold stauntions
-Hayes Mag front brake
-Avid mech rear
-Alex DM18 rims with deore hubs.

Contact:
Well my mobile was stolen as well so just pm me if you see it in the Homebush area.
also Balfa_Oli's bag was stoeln but that doesn't matter as much.
i have heard about peoples bikes being stolen but i never thought it was going to happen to me.
so if anyone sees anything could you please send me a pm.
Thanks,
Sam

EDIT: Pics up

[x]

hope you find it sam...

extra info (if it helps):
-one guy was tall and lanky, white polo hat on
-there was either 2 or 3 of them
-the coil on the rear shock is red, quite obvious
-these guys were last seen on parramatta road (we think)

this is very annoying, as sam and I were going to go lithgow, etc, tomorrow

:mad: :mad:

[TS153]

you didnt see my grey jumper there i left it there on sunday I was so annoyed I could imagine losing my bike too

[Roly]

that sucks fellas. ill keep my eyes open for all that stuff.


i hope you get it back

[Wattsy]

Since you were robbed, you've gone to the police. Otherwise you better, cause it happened to you.

[2 smooth 4 u]

that sucks did they ask you for your phone?? did you try and ride away or anything??.They sound like lads by the desciption,when i see people with white polo hats worn on stickin up so you can see their hair at the frount (lads) i usualy ride away cause they are usualy the people who roll you which sucks.

was anyone else at the track or just you and your mate???

[redavies]

Since you were robbed, you've gone to the police. Otherwise you better, cause it happened to you.

yer we called the police and we had to go down to the police station and stuff

[redavies]

that sucks did they ask you for your phone?? did you try and ride away or anything??.They sound like lads by the desciption,when i see people with white polo hats worn on stickin up so you can see their hair at the frount (lads) i usualy ride away cause they are usualy the people who roll you which sucks.

was anyone else at the track or just you and your mate???

yer it did suk and the fones where in the bag they toke and sam the guy whos bike got stolen he could not ride a way coz they cam behind him and chucked him of.:(

[Drizz]

Did they made physical contact? That constitute as assault AFAIK.

Also the track is under surveillance, check with the Olympic Park security.

Hope you get you bike back. :(

[Balfa_Oli]

yeah they through him off the bike and stole my bag.
it had my phone and wallet in it but it also had sams wallet and phone in it.
I am not soo pissed about my stuff but what i do care about is people that are bigger then us like we are 14 we're basically defenseless to people who are 18 years old.
We have been down to the cops this arvo and sam and i made our statements and they said they will keep an eye out for the stuff.
Good luck wiht getting the bike back sam i will be keeping my eye out.
It was good to see that the rangers were so helpful one of them staying with us until the cops came. I hope they have got the people that stole the bike on surveillance.
It is really weird because these guys were riding at the track earlier about 15 of them all on bmx's and one or two guys on a mountain bike. One of them asked me for an Allen Key so i went and tightened his crank for him as people have done for me in the past when i need a tool. And so what do they do taked my park tool set that was in my bag and my whole bag.
It was the same guy that asked for the allen key that came back without a bike and approached sam from behind and threw him to the ground i hope they have that on surveillance. Fingers crossed with getting the bike back.
Oli

[Binaural]

Did they made physical contact? That constitute as assault AFAIK.

Also the track is under surveillance, check with the Olympic Park security.

Hope you get you bike back. :(

No, that is "battery" (normally part of "assault and battery". Assault is the threat of violence, and Battery is where you actually carry through and physically attack someone.

[redavies]

yer i hope they get them and sam gets his bike and all

[taylor-91]

crap that sucks man. i was at monster today aswell and didn't seen anything but i will ask my mates who were at 4x today, i'll keep an eye out if i go down later in the week......good luck with finding it mate

[TIMOH]

Damn, I'm always around there, will keep an eye out for sure dude.

[danielmcb]

What time of day was it? Its a shame it wasnt saturday you could of got the massive bikey group to chase after the cunts.:D

[Balfa_Oli]

the guy that was there at the start and was the one that took the biek was riding a GT bike im nto sure what kind it was but it wasn't to flash just a recreational one i think it had disc brakes and stuff.
i think they might have taken the biek to keep so hopefully they go back to the 4X track and someone catches them., the rangers said they will keep there eyes out and be checking the track regularly so hopefully they find the guys.

[Balfa_Oli]

What time of day was it? Its a shame it wasnt saturday you could of got the massive bikey group to chase after the cunts.:D

it happened at 12:30 today (3rd July).
it's a bad experience that we all were faced with today and i'm not too sure if i want to go back to the track unless it is for a race.
The bad thing about it is that we did nothing to these guys they saw something they wanted and so they took it. i hope they get caught and then have to go to court and make their statement why they attacked sam and stole his bike.

[danielmcb]

Try to think on the good side, they didnt seriously hurt you or kill you. You can always get a new bike oneday, but if they beat the living shit out of you it would of been quite a bit worse than just a stolen bike.

[samh]

It happened at about 12:30, we were literally just about to leave for maccas in the next ten seconds before it happened, and yes i suspect it was battery because they pushed me and i now have a small graze on my arm and bruise on my thigh but it didnt hurt i was just a bit shaken. Does anybody know if they have security cameras at the very top of the track on the concrete bit?
because that was were it was.
Been a preety bad day, wallet with money and keys in it, phone with $50 credit and my bike gone.:(

[TIMOH]

It happened at about 12:30, we were literally just about to leave for maccas in the next ten seconds before it happened, and yes i suspect it was battery because they pushed me and i now have a small graze on my arm and bruise on my thigh but it didnt hurt i was just a bit shaken. Does anybody know if they have security cameras at the very top of the track on the concrete bit?
because that was were it was.
Been a preety bad day, wallet with money and keys in it, phone with $50 credit and my bike gone.:(

Theres a camera in the parking area.. if they rode through the parking area then it would be on camera.. I heard that the camera is one of those 360degrees cameras, but not 100% sure, just rumour. What direction did they leave in?

[Balfa_Oli]

i sent an email off to the guy at wsmtb to see if they do have that concrete area on video survaillance. we didn't see them but are pretty sure they headed out through the carpark and out onto hill road and off onto parramatta.
When the cop guy came he sed he had seen some people travelling down parramatta road but he didn't ask them anything he just came and met with us. after getting a description of the bike he went and had another search of the area but couldn't see them.
I hope the bike turns up even if it is on ebay or something then we can tell them the person thats selling it.
So hopefully the guys will go back to the track one time when there is a race on there.
Fingers crossed they got it on video camera but will wait and see if they do have video camera's filming that top area.
oli

[MUGEN]

We have been down to the cops this arvo and sam and i made our statements and they said they will keep an eye out for the stuff.
hah yeh bullshit.
Cops are about as usefull as a dropped pie in cases like these.
Your gonna have to rely on your own efforts (and perhaps the farkin community).

[beginner_giantDH]

i might go down and wait there for a while and see if they take my bike! haha i hope the police get to them before some-one with some muscle does

[Plow King]

WAs this today or last year?

Hope you get your bike back mate. That sucks. Hope they get charged for battery and theft.

[AndrewS]

i might go down and wait there for a while and see if they take my bike! haha i hope the police get to them before some-one with some muscle does


I am pretty sure that the Mods on Farkin do not condone this sort of behaviour you never know who is monitoring these sites. And violence with violence never works.

Sam, sorry to here about your bike hope you get it back. I have insurance for my bikes and that includes the bike being stolen. If my bike was stolen from an established venue then my bike is insured.

Good Luck

[Balfa_Oli]

WAs this today or last year?

Hope you get your bike back mate. That sucks. Hope they get charged for battery and theft.

yeah it happened yesterday. so 2006 not 05

[Balfa_Oli]

I have insurance for my bikes and that includes the bike being stolen. If my bike was stolen from an established venue then my bike is insured.

how much did it cost you for bike insurance because after yesterday in the car on the way home we were talking about insurance but thought it would be hugely expensive.

[AndrewS]

I have insurance for my bikes and that includes the bike being stolen. If my bike was stolen from an established venue then my bike is insured.

how much did it cost you for bike insurance because after yesterday in the car on the way home we were talking about insurance but thought it would be hugely expensive.


I have this included on my home contents insurance with NRMA, my contents cost me around $40/month. You have to nominate them as separate items. It takes a bit of research but it is no differant than insuring an expensive watch or jewelery.

Cheers

[Balfa_Oli]

yesterday when the bike was stoeln so was my bag with my wallet and stuff in it but in my wallet i had my mtb licence.
Does anybody know what i am meant to do about this as i am racing this weekend in canberra.
I think i know my licence number but what happens when i go to the rego at the race and they ask me for my licence?
any help would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks,
Oli

[Goobs]

What about the security footage? I'd love to hear if anything got recorded. Surely the Olympic Park Authority should be able to track the kids as they were leaving with their bikes? If they can track em, they might be able to get a close up of the punk who stole the bike.

Damn shame, its such a cool venue, doesn’t need stuff like this happening to blacken its rep.

Ps.. Sorry about the loss of your bike, its an act of bastardry.




[QUOTE=AC.]Today (3rd July) my giant AC was ripped off me when two 18 year olds through me from my bike and rode off with it from the homebush 4x track.

[sitrus7]

You gota keep onto them about the camera footage. You’re dealing with both the parking people and the police. Keep hitting both of them up cos you can bet your ass the cops will say it’s the parking dudes issue and the parking people will say it’s the cops.

I parked illegally there and they were onto me in 15mins. Now some kids gets rolled for their bikes they beta help out.

If they dont, then keep farkin in the loop. Its in all our interests that this sort of thing gets sorted out.

[AndrewS]

yesterday when the bike was stoeln so was my bag with my wallet and stuff in it but in my wallet i had my mtb licence.
Does anybody know what i am meant to do about this as i am racing this weekend in canberra.
I think i know my licence number but what happens when i go to the rego at the race and they ask me for my licence?
any help would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks,
Oli

You can get in contact with the MTBA and they may be able to email you a notice stating that you are a fully paid up member. This happened to me and all was well. Most of the clubs also have a database that checks whether you are a finacial member or not.

Good Luck this weekend

[Balfa_Oli]

haha thanks.
yeha i still have my receipt from when i became a member with wsmtb about 6 months ago so i will just show them that.
I sent a pm to steve and i will see what happens from there about security footage and licence and things. main thing at the moment is getting the bike back though.

[taylor-91]

Well at least you know the local rangers were helping out as my mate was confronted by a ranger at monster asking if he had seen them he asked around the venue for a bit then left so hopefully they contine to search. Yeh there is a camera on one of the light poles on the track and another in the parking lot so you would think the camera would have seen something. Good luck again hope you find it:)

[Balfa_Oli]

yeah i just talked to security then.
the camera moves so it films the bottom and the top of the track at different times.
but these guys were riding at teh track earlier and then came back an hour or so later and did it.
he is not sure if it is on camera or anything yet as his computer isn't working. but fingers crossed they got a shot of his face or something on there.

[DeSloth]

Keep annoying them mate. I mean, really really bugging them!

When they realise the problem isn't just going to go away (computer not working??!?), you will get what you need. Possibly a good idea to get a parent or 2 involved as well, they tend to add a lot more weight to an issue.

Within the next 24 to 48 hours, any footage they may (or may not) have will probably be gone forever. :(

Get onto it quickly, and you might just get your gear back.

[MrCove]

.....as his computer isn't working...........

yeah, really......

anyway, that really does suck, especially after you had seen them in the area earlier, they don't sound like the most inteligent bunch.
tossers

good luck with it

if you are DESPARATE for a bike to use for the 4x finals/champs give me a call/pm/e-mail

[redavies]

Theres a camera in the parking area.. if they rode through the parking area then it would be on camera.. I heard that the camera is one of those 360degrees cameras, but not 100% sure, just rumour. What direction did they leave in?

yer they left throw the car park so i hope the camera got them

[sitrus7]

(computer not working??!?),

That’s such a lame excuse. I work in IT and even I tell people to say that if someone cant be assed or some "person" has made a stuff up.

These camera's will be on loop. they need to archive that day of footage so its not overwritten. You have to spell it out for them. That footage is all you have, that’s why its there, it should be used!!

Send me a PM if you want me to help out, I live really close to the 4x and it may be more convincing coming from someone who isn’t 14.

[TransitionPete]

Wow that sucks man.I was there riding around homebush the same day.I was even there when you were there with all of ya mates at the 4x.If im correct i saw two guys hanging around homebush 4x all day and i bumbed into em later in bicentenial park at around 3.00.So he must of gotten rid of it and got back onto the kmart bike he was on earlier in the day.They even eyed of my bike when i was there.One was a lad with the tn's and the polo shirt and all that gay crap and rode a kmart bike that was rigid and the forks were bent and were 40 degrees.And the other was on a gt blue gt avalanche who could kinda ride.

[Balfa_Oli]

Wow that sucks man.I was there riding around homebush the same day.I was even there when you were there with all of ya mates at the 4x.If im correct i saw two guys hanging around homebush 4x all day and i bumbed into em later in bicentenial park at around 3.00.So he must of gotten rid of it and got back onto the kmart bike he was on earlier in the day.They even eyed of my bike when i was there.One was a lad with the tn's and the polo shirt and all that gay crap and rode a kmart bike that was rigid and the forks were bent and were 40 degrees.And the other was on a gt blue gt avalanche who could kinda ride.

yeah mate that's the guys.
I even lent them an allan key because they asked for it but that was earlier.
i hope they have a glimpse of him on a video camera cause he was riding there in the morning but we'll wait and see what happens.
I can't believe that people actually do this just because they can't afford something they see some one smaller wiht something they want so they go and steal it.
I hope they get found and hopefully it'll teach them a lesson.

[sitrus7]

Just had a chat to the Guys at SOP Security and they seem to be treating it pretty seriously. They are having computer issues but they have someone booked in to come and look at it tomorrow. They keep about 6 months of footage and are pretty confident that they will have some kind of footage of them. With any luck it will be the actual event but at the very least of them leaving the area.

Keep onto them and give them a call again at about lunch time Thursday. That’s when the SOP guy who is looking after it will be in and the PC, that runs the security review thing, should be fixed.

[rell6103]

Hey man,

it sucks about your bike.
How much is it worth?
I ask this as i had one of my bikes stolen from uni about 2 years back. I was able to claim insurance on it under home insurance. Apparently anything under $1000 dollars, they don't really look into it. They didn't ask for receipts or proof that it was stolen from home or anything like that.
So it actually worked out better for me as i got back the retail amount of money and bought me a new and better bike.

Look into to it,

Cheers Rob

[Balfa_Oli]

alright well sam is away and returns friday or saturday this week but his handling it really well.
i would give him a calla dn tell him how everything is going but they stole his phone.
I will give the guys a call on thursday but thanks heaps mate for the help.
Oli

[Balfa_Oli]

hey guys,
i was looking at this thread this arvo: http://forums.farkin.net/showthread.php?t=52537
And i was talking to Sam's dad this arvo and we both thought that these guys that came up to the guy in this thread sounded a lot like the guys who stole sam's bike.
If you guys have anything that is anything at all.
2 or 3 guys 1 quite lanky white polo hat and stuff in the area of Maquarie, Homebush any where aroudn that area.
If you have seen these guys or if you ride in the area a bit and one day you seem to catch a glimpse of the guys or iof they even come up to you please report it to Auburn Police station.
We need anyone, anyone at all who has seen these guys talked to them whatever to report it to the Auburn police A.S.A.P
because we don't want this guy to try it to someone else.
The policeman who is in charge of our case is away until August and we were told nothing can happen until he gets back.
We have decided that we don't want this case to just drop down we want them to keep realizing and go "well maybe we do haver a case".
As i said earlier anyone who sees them report them to Auburn Police A.S.A.P
and ask for Daniel Piserchia Highway Patrol his number is 9646 8699.
The event number is E27249659.
We need as much evidence as possible and stop this biek stealing going on in the area.
If you are in the area and you see something suspicious report it to Sydney Olympic Park Security there number is 9714 7700.
If you ride in the area you might even liek to add these numbers to your phone.
Thanks Alot,
Oli

[Plow King]

Try looking around at some of the local pawn stores. Also, have you got the serial number of the bike? go back to the store in which you bought it from and get it and then ask them to register it into there computer so if that anyone tries to sell it to a bike store it should ocme up on there computer as a stolen bike.

[TIMOH]

We (Davf,danielmcb,SPOON, and me) just believe we saw the people who stole your bike. Same description and had a GT Blue and something coloured dual suspension cheapo. As soon as we got there it was suspecious as they looked junkie. They were eye-ing our bikes so we left.
They were driving a blue commodore and a green excel. I sent you a detail message though ollie.

Be VERY careful if you go there as it seems like theyre just going to do it again.

[danielmcb]

Yeah they were the most obvious looking theifs ever. They were staring at our bikes so hard. Pretty frustrating that we couldnt do anything about it. We couldnt of just confronted them and not enough evidence for the police or rangers. Still wish we could of done something to teach the stupid junkie fucks a lesson.:mad: As timoh said he sent you a more detailed message. Hope the information helps out in some way.

[2 smooth 4 u]

We (Davf,danielmcb,SPOON, and me) just believe we saw the people who stole your bike. Same description and had a GT Blue and something coloured dual suspension cheapo. As soon as we got there it was suspecious as they looked junkie. They were eye-ing our bikes so we left.

They were driving a blue commodore and a green excel. I sent you a detail message though ollie.


Be VERY careful if you go there as it seems like theyre just going to do it again.

Did u get their number plates???

have you got any news from the security and the cameras???

[TIMOH]

Did u get their number plates???
Yes we got 2 number plates.

have you got any news from the security and the cameras???

The ranger JUST came past when we made the call. He said he couldn't do anything and that that they could not access the footage.

[2 smooth 4 u]

Yes we got 2 number plates.



The ranger JUST came past when we made the call. He said he couldn't do anything and that that they could not access the footage.

so you will never see the footage or just not at the time???

ok the number plates is a good start

If you see them again and you are shure its them get some big guys to go and talk to them and see what they say.when i got my bike stolen I had heaps of people saying they have big friends who will smash the theif who was always in the area but he saw the tread and got scared and gave it back.good luck getting it back

[Balfa_Oli]

Ok tim and the rest of you guys YOU ARE BLOODY LEGENDS!!!!!!!!!!
thank you soo much i will be ringing the cops first thing tomoz morning and am going to smas house now to give his dad the news and the number platyes.
Thank you everyone for your help,
but we still haven't got the bike back.
Oli

[Davf]

Security really couldnt do too much, nor does he have the authority to. He gave us the police assistance number, but becuase it was 'here say' he really couldn't do anything. He basically said the police have to deal with it, we tryed to call but couldn't get through on the assistance line. I asked about the camera/video but he(security) told me that was on the polices side of things - ie camera not good enough quality?

They were there at around 5pm, darkish blue older commodore(before vn/vp - vc??) and a dark green, not current model excel. Also a blue civic seden was nearby the road/carpark entry, not sure if they were linked or not, but they left at a similar time - as the security had a quick chat to the person. Hope this stuff helps.

[samh]

Here are the pictures of the bike and the serial number.
The serial number is GL205681

Pictures of the bike are below

[redavies]

hey sam and oli have u checked on ebay coz he could off put it on there:D :)

[cleeshoy]

hey sam and oli have u checked on ebay coz he could off put it on there:D :)

They might try and flog it off on tradingpost.com.au website.......

Also check out the classifieds in the newspapers.

Best of luck dude - that was a really low act......I hope they get caught, get sent to jail and become someone's "bitch" there :)

[danielmcb]

I am pretty sure that the Mods on Farkin do not condone this sort of behaviour you never know who is monitoring these sites. And violence with violence never works.

This guys bike has been stolen and you worry about people seeing messages from everyone who wants to beat the shit out of the bastards.:mad:

[tommyd2074]

Farkin Lads... cant get their own nice bikes, so they go rip them off some lil' kids... Pretty low and cowardly if u ask me!
Good luck Sammy, and good luck down in Canberra tomoz Oli

[DIGITALPIMP]

At least we all agree on the fact: Bike thieves suck. You could pretty much quote everyones comments in a thread such as this, But I ride out at homebush4x a bit and I dont want this shit in my backyard either or anywhere for that matter, If we are ever out there and see your "lads" they shall be pinned down with my front rim and police will be called. Sammy GL dude! You may want to check out any Homebush4X pics in here, maybe they are in a background shot somewhere? you never know.
Unfortunately you cant leave your bags unattended anywhere at homebush, everytime we have set up camp there away from people they always seem to come close and hang near your stuff, just be careful at any track. I will be interested to see how this pans out with the plate numbers. Nice work getting them. GoodLuck Dude!

[EasyRider]

I hate hearing stories like this it makes me very angry:mad:. Its not fair we all should be able to ride our bike in peace without being threatened and being paranoid about having our rides stolen. People who steal bikes or anything for this matter are total scum, actually even lower they are pieces of microscopic dirt that grows on scum......

cheers
and I hope you find your bike and those loser get whats coming to them...good luck!

[DIGITALPIMP]

Now I dunno if its because of this event or not, but today Me and 3 of my mates got kicked out of Homebush 4x track by security today because "we look dangerous". we are all in our late 20's and we ride there quite often, if we were there the day sammy had his bike taken we certainly would NOT have let it happen, in fact I have no problem giving a bit of protection to a young fella who has two older assholes threatening them. I wouldnt want to loose my bike in that way.
But what is the price we have to pay in society because of a few assholes?
The Security guy that came up to us and said we couldnt sit where we were sitting cause we are on the track, where we were sitting was on the grassy flat on top of the first big berm, which is bullshit because Ive been to numerous 4x events there and Spectators sit there all the time! then he accused us of smoking dope!! just because two of ma scottish mates smoke rolleys! you roll a cigarette and they think your doing drugs without even knowing the truth. he only had to ask to smell it and he would have seen it was not dope but a damn Cigarette!
None of the parents there were asked to leave, in fact the woman who was standing near us wasnt even told to move.
Like most security, they are never around when you need them and when you dont need them they are like shit on a bears fur - everywhere.
I would prefer my local to be free from these power tripping losers, so go find Sammys bike and stop harrasing innocent people!

[AndrewS]

This guys bike has been stolen and you worry about people seeing messages from everyone who wants to beat the shit out of the bastards.:mad:


Danielmcb,

Obvioulsy you have never had to go through this type of situation yourself. I feel for Sam very much and I wish there was a lot more that I could do to help. I am a very active member of the Australian Mountain Bike movement and have been for many years and I feel disheartened that this has happened to one of our members. I have also lived in that area and I know the type of poeple that sam is dealing with. I spent 4 days in a coma after being king hit with a baseball bat. I also know that the authorities after incidents in sydney over the past 12 months are watching everyone. If you want to beat the shit out of someone take it to a boxing gym. All I did to get hit was turn my head and look. The meaning of my statement and most people would have understood it was to stop anyone getting hurt for no reason. I know the system is slow and the chances of finding sam's bike is slim but it is much better than ending up in hospital as I did.

Thats all I have to say.

Good Luck Sam I hope you get your bike back and these guys get caught.

[riley ht]

that sucks so bad man sorry to hear it. i have never had a bike stolen but i could imagen how bad it would be, especially if youve worked so hard to buy it or whatever, and the guys that normaly steal this stuff dont even appreciate them, they just get some money out of it that they wil probly go and spend on drugs and whatever else those lowlifes spend their lives doing. i just makes me so angry! hope u find it all in one peice

[mtb_slipknot_fan]

Fark man that must suck bad, especially when it was done by people you helped and the fact they were older just proves there low life pussies, i keep alert when i ride n im always with mates thats helped us avoid some potentially ugly situations especially on our night rides. good luck on getting your bike back in one piece man cheers. :mad:

[Scuffed up Huffy]

Geez I hate people .

[brad of sydney]

have you had any luck with it all yet?
just interested in what has happened.

[samh]

have you had any luck with it all yet?
just interested in what has happened.
Nothing has happened.

[night_rider_2b]

Shit ay, i ride homebush 4x alot for fun, i happily muck around on my shitty blue avanti escape...lol i try to show up little kids :) im a shit jump rider lol, but its always good to see a good rider....But people steeling bikes from homebush, thats like stepping in poop on each foot, one after the other!
I meen that track is always full of kids and mums and dads...and to hear this...i definately wont be taking my new 2007 specialized stumpjumper fsr elite:cool: ...to homebush...she can stay at home and ill take my avanti....

Ne news on gettin ur bike and stuff bak boys? i read the entire thread and am fukin shocked....
Mark

[mtbmamma]

I too have just read the whole of this thread. My son and a couple of mates spend lots of time out at Homebush at the 4X and sometimes it can become very lonely out there. I do worry and now I can see that I was right to worry.

Hopefully, Sam, you will get another bike but luckily all that happened to you was a bruise and a scratch. I will keep my eyes out for anyone looking like these guys and I now have both security and police numbers in my phone. As for bags of stuff I won't let my boys take anything with them.

I am really very sad that this has happened out there and yes, Security can be a pain. I went out there one day to pick up my son. I had my dog, a Schnauzer with me, so I let him out of the car. In less than 2-3 minutes Security were there telling me to either put him back in the car or put him on a lead, which I didn't have with me. This has now happened a number of times and it is amazing how quickly they arrive when I am there with the dog!!!!

Pity they can't watch out for thieves instead of dogs. Obviously dog crap is more of a threat than criminals!!! VERY DISAPPOINTING.

Good Luck Sam and Oli.:)

[atty]

ive just read this thread and it must suck to get a expensive bike like that stolen. i want to go to this track but i now have second thoughts. Funny enough i have i giant ac 06 model that i have just brought and i realy dont want it to get stolen but its no point having a bike that doesnt get ridden.
im going to take peper spray and some other jazz. i will have a look around to see if those low dikheads are there. i have a fearly big mate that might come and if those guys are there he will talk to them.