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Plow King
10-07-2006, 05:35 PM
Howdy all

I finally decided to go on a diet for my health and for my riding.

I'm hoping to encourage some more people on here to do the same thing.

So, If your on a diet what does it consist of? How much excersice do you do.

Heres mine

Big ass breakfast inc. big bowl of cereal with light milkand 2 bits of toast (I never used to eat breakfast so that was my big downfall)

Morning tea - 3 Aarowroot (spelling) buiscuits

Lunch - A sandwhich without butter, with either sliced ham, turkey, chicken ect.

Afternoon tea - 3 Aaroroot buiscuits and a tub or lite yohgurt.

Dinner - Basically anything, but dont use oil when you cook it, i,e chicken, steak (fat cutt off of course) and with afew vegies.

Desert - 2 scoops of light ice cream or..
a bowl of fruit and a tub of light yohgurt.

And five times a week, I eat a 'treat' I,e chocolate bar, donut, cookie... ect.

I hope this all motivates you. I'll keep you posted as to how much I loose weekly.

I do atleast an hour of riding a day and about 10 hours on weekends..

Weight loss - 2weeks = 3kg.

DH_Freak
10-07-2006, 05:54 PM
im proud of ya Chris! hope you can motivate people to do the same!
GOOD ON YA CHAMP!
REece.:D

wtr
10-07-2006, 06:00 PM
The one of the worst thing you could do to yourself is going on a diet. Your bike is here for a reason. But if you are that committed, steam/dry sauna, swimming in cold water.:D


Have you called Jenny yet? ;)

Plow King
10-07-2006, 06:10 PM
The one of the worst thing you could do to yourself is going on a diet. Your bike is here for a reason.

Yeah, Lets eat tonnes of shit and ride a bike thet'll help. Mayb it does with your metabalism, not mine.

and1
10-07-2006, 06:14 PM
I don't get your "diet". Thats the same, if not more than what a normal person would eat in a day anyway...

Plow King
10-07-2006, 06:21 PM
I don't get your "diet". Thats the same, if not more than what a normal person would eat in a day anyway...

Probably not. It's more regular and there are alot of subtle touches. I,e no butter, oil, fat. No soft drink...

leitch
10-07-2006, 06:39 PM
id have to agree with and1, that "diet" is more than i eat each day:

what you eat is also really important - not just how much

- breakfast - if its a massive bowl of like nutra-grain or something else thats really high in sugar, its not going to help. likewise, eat wholemeal/multigrain bread for your toast - lest starch/simple sugars in it (starch/simple sugars etc can quicky become fat if the energy they produce isn't used) - also what are you putting on your toast? if its nutella, then again it won't help - massive amounts of sugar and fats, same goes for jam/peanut butter.

- lunch - sliced turkey/ham/chicken... all three of these can be really fatty, especially if bought from a supermarket. instead, try a straight salad, or a salad sandwich - equally filling and flavoursome, but waaay less salts and fats. again, go for multigrain bread.

- dinner - try for red meat or fish here, you want to make sure you dont become anaemic, and are getting enough protein - you're right in making sure its not too oily. try for lean beef, skinless chicken breast, etc. eat with veges or salad, but make sure you're getting enough iron (legumes are great for this)

- dessert - no desert monday-thursday, small amounts on fri/sat/sun (more easily worked off by the 10 hours of riding you say you do.

ALSO - for morning/afternoon tea, fuck the arrowroot biscuits. eat fruit. or low fat yoghurt... sweet biscuits suck. .

oh and a "treat" five times a week? you're kidding yourself


try that regime with plenty of exercise - and not just riding either, go for a jog before school in the morning, 30 mins is enough - try to go further in that 30 minutes each day you go for a run.


*disclaimer*: im not a nutritionist nor a dietician, and im not pretending to be one. im just offering advice based upon personal experience with myself and family members

TonyG
10-07-2006, 06:49 PM
Well I am going to pretend to be a dietician!
Just have a rounded diet, with healthy servings of veg and salads, and do regular exercise.
Also don’t forget to restrict your other habits, cut down on the ciggies (I'd say a pack a day is pretty healthy), and limit yourself to 10 cartons of beer a week. I know this is a big ask, but if you can cut the crack out all together you'll find yourself feeling a heap better too.

There is only one sentence in this dribble worth listening too.

nizai
10-07-2006, 06:51 PM
Best way to lose weight and keep it off is cut carbs out of your diet in the evenings. I know its boring but about 3 nights a week I have tuna salad. Cutting bread, rice and pasta from your diet at night will help stop excess carbs turning into fat.

Eat the carbs during the morning and day though or else you'll be falling asleep by lunchtime :D

Besides that, just ride, ride, ride, ride.

I lost a fair bit of weight at the end of last year just from making changes to my evening diet and doing about 60km a week on the bike. (Since i dont weigh myself i cant tell you for sure, but 3 notches on the belt is a bit).

N

Plow King
10-07-2006, 07:08 PM
id have to agree with and1, that "diet" is more than i eat each day:

what you eat is also really important - not just how much

- breakfast - if its a massive bowl of like nutra-grain or something else thats really high in sugar, its not going to help. likewise, eat wholemeal/multigrain bread for your toast - lest starch/simple sugars in it (starch/simple sugars etc can quicky become fat if the energy they produce isn't used) - also what are you putting on your toast? if its nutella, then again it won't help - massive amounts of sugar and fats, same goes for jam/peanut butter.

- lunch - sliced turkey/ham/chicken... all three of these can be really fatty, especially if bought from a supermarket. instead, try a straight salad, or a salad sandwich - equally filling and flavoursome, but waaay less salts and fats. again, go for multigrain bread.

- dinner - try for red meat or fish here, you want to make sure you dont become anaemic, and are getting enough protein - you're right in making sure its not too oily. try for lean beef, skinless chicken breast, etc. eat with veges or salad, but make sure you're getting enough iron (legumes are great for this)

- dessert - no desert monday-thursday, small amounts on fri/sat/sun (more easily worked off by the 10 hours of riding you say you do.

ALSO - for morning/afternoon tea, fuck the arrowroot biscuits. eat fruit. or low fat yoghurt... sweet biscuits suck. .

oh and a "treat" five times a week? you're kidding yourself


try that regime with plenty of exercise - and not just riding either, go for a jog before school in the morning, 30 mins is enough - try to go further in that 30 minutes each day you go for a run.


*disclaimer*: im not a nutritionist nor a dietician, and im not pretending to be one. im just offering advice based upon personal experience with myself and family members

Thanks heaps.


Well the way I'm doing it is obviously working, but with afew changes it could work. It's not about the amount you eat its what you eat. And you HAVE to eat regularly or it stuffs your motoabalism up.

Plow King
10-07-2006, 07:14 PM
I was trying to show people that to go on a diet you dont have to eat cabbage leaves and boiled carrots for a year. I could have chosen a super shit diet to do. I,e soup diet :o :o

But meh.

nik_1974
10-07-2006, 07:38 PM
id have to agree with and1, that "diet" is more than i eat each day:

what you eat is also really important - not just how much

- breakfast - if its a massive bowl of like nutra-grain or something else thats really high in sugar, its not going to help. likewise, eat wholemeal/multigrain bread for your toast - lest starch/simple sugars in it (starch/simple sugars etc can quicky become fat if the energy they produce isn't used) - also what are you putting on your toast? if its nutella, then again it won't help - massive amounts of sugar and fats, same goes for jam/peanut butter.

- lunch - sliced turkey/ham/chicken... all three of these can be really fatty, especially if bought from a supermarket. instead, try a straight salad, or a salad sandwich - equally filling and flavoursome, but waaay less salts and fats. again, go for multigrain bread. Add a protien eg egg, tuna, cheese or chicken

- dinner - try for red meat or fish here, you want to make sure you dont become anaemic, and are getting enough protein - you're right in making sure its not too oily. try for lean beef, skinless chicken breast, etc. eat with veges or salad, but make sure you're getting enough iron (legumes are great for this)

- dessert - no desert monday-thursday, small amounts on fri/sat/sun (more easily worked off by the 10 hours of riding you say you do.

ALSO - for morning/afternoon tea, fuck the arrowroot biscuits. eat fruit. or low fat yoghurt... sweet biscuits suck. .

oh and a "treat" five times a week? you're kidding yourself. Yeah cut out all the sugar eg biscuits, all your treats and be careful of the yoghurt your eating as it may be low fat but high in sugar. For a snack eat an apple, its low GI which means it will hold you over till your next meal.


try that regime with plenty of exercise - and not just riding either, go for a jog before school in the morning, 30 mins is enough - try to go further in that 30 minutes each day you go for a run. Start doing some resistance training ie weights, as this increases your metabolism. Do at least 2 times a week.


*disclaimer*: im not a nutritionist nor a dietician, and im not pretending to be one. im just offering advice based upon personal experience with myself and family members

My wife is doing a PT course so i've been hearing all about this stuff and what leitch said is right with a couple of additions. Hope this helps and I'll ask my wife for more advice if your interested.

No_Style
10-07-2006, 07:48 PM
It depends on how into the whole diet thing you want to go.
I have one bit of advice about nutrition. Select a diet that you can live with for the rest of your life. If you choose a diet where you feel you can 'live with' for 3 or 6 months while you lose weight, then your going to fail in the long run as you bounce back to old dietary habits.

The key thing is to change dietary habbits in a manner such that you will lose the weight you want and then keep it off, because your diet never ends, so to speak.

As for what you should eat, thats a valid point posted above, however I'm to lazy to expand on what has been posted. What leitch said is good enough general information. The point about cereal is particularly valid, very few people realise how poor these 'sports' breakfasts such as Nutri Grain etc are. Go for things like rolled oats and large amounts of bran (you know you want your fibres), Weet Bix and Vita Brits aren't bad. Don't add sugar to them :)

I'll make a more detailed post if I'm not to lazy soon.

leitch
10-07-2006, 07:49 PM
My wife is doing a PT course so i've been hearing all about this stuff and what leitch said is right with a couple of additions. Hope this helps and I'll ask my wife for more advice if your interested.
wow, im amazed to see that what i said was as accurate as that. good additions.

johnny
10-07-2006, 08:06 PM
Best way to lose weight and keep it off is cut carbs out of your diet in the evenings. I know its boring but about 3 nights a week I have tuna salad. Cutting bread, rice and pasta from your diet at night will help stop excess carbs turning into fat.

Eat the carbs during the morning and day though or else you'll be falling asleep by lunchtime :DAdd this to what Nik_1974/Leitch and No Style said and you've pretty much got the perfect diet as we know it these days. It's expensive and time consuming (sometimes you get to the point where you make your own breakfasts cerials from raw ingredients and stuff) but you won't miss the changes in your health and appearance.

leitch
10-07-2006, 08:20 PM
you won't miss the changes in your health and appearance.
got to agree here, i've been eating heaps healthier recently, and you seriously feel so much better than when you're constantly eating shit food. and i'm a hell of a lot fitter now, too - both on the bike, and at gym and rugby trainings etc

I-AM-TEH-FASTEST-11
10-07-2006, 08:47 PM
I have a better diet....

it's called the "get on a road bike and do 700km a week"

I guarentee you'll lose weight

wtr
10-07-2006, 09:05 PM
I guarentee you'll lose weight
And get le tired.

beginner_giantDH
10-07-2006, 09:27 PM
hey chris good luck champ!

for the diet everything you had sounds good with one exception!
Dinner..

from what i know the only thing you should eat at dinner is some really small amount of protien, the reasoning is that that going to bed on a full stomach will mean that your body has no need to burn the food for energy (because you dont need it to sleep) and thus it will store the energy as fat, and also contribute to slowing you metabolism which in turn will make it harder for you to lose weight!

Thus, big breakfast followed by a decent amount of excersise, to get your body burning up energy from the start of the day, as the day wears on eat less and less until it comes to dinner when i would say, depending on how tight your diet is, a protien shake or small serving of meat, just remember you only have to wait till breakfast for a massive bowl of cereal!!!

I-AM-TEH-FASTEST-11
11-07-2006, 08:04 AM
And get le tired.

that's the point

anyone who thinks they can, or should, lose wieght without effort is kidding themselves. It's not about what you eat, it's about how you live.
When I was a courier back when I was like 17 I could munch about 2 whole BBQ chickens before I even got home.. and I was still a rake. It has nothing to do with metabolism.. if you ruin yourself with exercise, you're gonna drop kilo's (didn't that guy on The Contender lose like 5 kilo's in about 2 hours?)

johnny
11-07-2006, 08:07 AM
that's the point

anyone who thinks they can, or should, lose wieght without effort is kidding themselves. It's not about what you eat, it's about how you live.
When I was a courier back when I was like 17 I could munch about 2 whole BBQ chickens before I even got home.. and I was still a rake. It has nothing to do with metabolism.. if you ruin yourself with exercise, you're gonna drop kilo's (didn't that guy on The Contender lose like 5 kilo's in about 2 hours?)
I agree, exercise is the be all and end all. But unfortunately exercise can be very time consuming and some (me) don't always have enough spare to spend hours behind the bars. Sometimes a healthy diet is a must.....unfortunately. I'd much prefer to just smash myself everyday and eat what I wanted!

I-AM-TEH-FASTEST-11
11-07-2006, 08:09 AM
that's a fair call I guess, I didn't really think of it that way.

actually, I came up with a better diet for Norcohavoc how about, instead of spending all your time making threads on Farkin about upcoming Ourimbah races, why not, spend that time on a trainer?
haha.. hell even Johnny could try limiting his essay posts to 12 thousand words, instead of the usual 50?

It could be called the Farkin diet.. just limit yourself to one Farkin a day, and use the rest of your time to do exercise at that ever awesome 170BPM level


I'm like, soooooooooo clever

juan
11-07-2006, 08:45 AM
you have to use food as fuel for your body, if you are going for a ride next morning eat carbs the night before, if not just eat protein( chiken, fish, meat) and vegies o salad. if you dont burn them they are ging to be store
as fat.
avoid sugar as poison!
drink plenty of water!
when you do exercise make sure is harder than the week before, body adapts really quick so you always have to push! dont do the same over and over.
slowly change your eating...dont use a "diet" is not going to last, you have to change step by step and when you realise you are a healthy person.

" anyone can be a winner all depends how much you want to sacrifice"
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santacruzmtb
11-07-2006, 10:54 AM
my bike has a few pounds which need to be lost.

Goobs
11-07-2006, 11:11 AM
No no no...

You've got it all wrong. One should buy an exercise bike and mount a PC keyboard & screen on the bars. Call it the farkintrainer. Just to make sure your pedalling and not just sitting there. The PC should be powered off a generator mounted on the exercise bike.Then one can post crap all day on farkin, and be loosing weight at the same time. With a nice quiet magnetic trainer, you wouldnt even have to adjust the volume for the Phat Vids.

Bugger this one farkin session a day.... i'd have nothing to do at work then.

that's a fair call I guess, I didn't really think of it that way.

actually, I came up with a better diet for Norcohavoc how about, instead of spending all your time making threads on Farkin about upcoming Ourimbah races, why not, spend that time on a trainer?
haha.. hell even Johnny could try limiting his essay posts to 12 thousand words, instead of the usual 50?

It could be called the Farkin diet.. just limit yourself to one Farkin a day, and use the rest of your time to do exercise at that ever awesome 170BPM level


I'm like, soooooooooo clever

Plow King
21-07-2006, 06:22 PM
Edit. 5 kg in 3 weeks! :D :D

I took some of your advice and changed some of the things that I originally had planned.

I hope this encourages other people to do the same thing if they have been thinking about it.

floody
21-07-2006, 06:32 PM
Probably not. It's more regular and there are alot of subtle touches. I,e no butter, oil, fat. No soft drink...

Bugger me, where's the fun in that ? :D

Nah good luck with it, I really should do something myself. I rode about 5kms the other day and I was knackered; disgraceful.

Plow King
21-07-2006, 06:45 PM
Bugger me, where's the fun in that ? :D

Nah good luck with it, I really should do something myself. I rode about 5kms the other day and I was knackered; disgraceful.

Meh, i just hope it encourages people to try it. Nothing worse than attempting to do something like lose weight on your own. I kinda changed the rule for no soft drink. i sometimes i have coke zero :eek: .

berkyburger123
21-07-2006, 06:58 PM
Well I haven't gone on a diet (though I porbably should) but basically I've just excercised mroe self control with my food, so for say arvo tea, rather than having a chocolate bar I just ahve a yoghurt. What is casuing me to lose fat is that I train for rugby tweo days a week, have a trainign sessiona t the gym once a week and every other day going for jogs ('cept saturday, when I play.)

So basically, losing weight is all about decisions (obviosuly compromises must be made) but healthy food ratehr than less food and mroe excercise because that fat won't go anywhere unless you work it off.

That said I have gained weight (given that I've grown 9 cm in 6 months of course im gaining bne and muscle density and weith etc) but I've slimmed down.

So yeah excercise and food in conjunction seem to do the trick.

Or even better, LIPO!! haha

nizai
21-07-2006, 06:58 PM
Nothin like a bit of phenylalanine to interfere with the days seretonin production ;)

N

Binaural
21-07-2006, 06:59 PM
Nothin like a bit of phenylalanine to interfere with the days seretonin production ;)

N

Sounds kinky.

floody
21-07-2006, 10:17 PM
Ahh well, cheers Norcohavoc, I'm inspired to have a bash at it myself.
5 years ago I had ballooned to a bit over 125kg, got back down to high 80kgs briefly (for a few weeks, but was most stable at 92kg or so when I monitored food and exercise).
5 years have passed and I'm sitting on 105kg again so alarm bells are going off. I've been eating shit, working shifts and full time uni, doing fark all exercise, and haven't been riding....So I will get things moving again.

Farkin Fat Club?

Plow King
21-07-2006, 10:30 PM
Ahh well, cheers Norcohavoc, I'm inspired to have a bash at it myself.
5 years ago I had ballooned to a bit over 125kg, got back down to high 80kgs briefly (for a few weeks, but was most stable at 92kg or so when I monitored food and exercise).
5 years have passed and I'm sitting on 105kg again so alarm bells are going off. I've been eating shit, working shifts and full time uni, doing fark all exercise, and haven't been riding....So I will get things moving again.

Farkin Fat Club?

WE ARE THE SUPERFAT FRIENDS

hahaha, Atleast were doing something about it, unlike millions of people that sit there, eat shit and think nothing of it.

cheers Chris

Daver
21-07-2006, 10:42 PM
After i left school and stopped playing sport i put on a good 15 kilos, and i got to the point this year where i was so lazy and tired that it got up to 20. Since i broke my arm i figured i may as well pull my finger out and do something about it, so i signed up with one of the Diet clubs (no names for the sake of names). After 10 weeks i'm now another 10 kilos lighter and i feel great, but i have another 40 to go to get back down to my goal weight, not sure how long it will take but it will be worth it.

Anyway, my only advice is moderation. Eat 2 sit down meals a day- breakfast and dinner. Rather than going purely for cereal at breakfast, have an egg and some low fat bacon- it's the same points value as a bowl of cereal and a lot more filling. Dinner is the same- some protein (fish or chicken- stay away from red meats) and a big salad and a small portion of low G.I. carbs (brown bread or fresh pasta). Snacks should be simple and unprocessed (homemade humous and pita bread or carrots etc), but most importantly, you should still eat "normal" bad things. If you do your own shopping actually read the nutritional value, because more often than not, low-fat and low-sugar things are worse than their full fat/sugar offerings- especially if its heavily processed. Lunch is tough but big salads or fresh pasta with simple sauce (tomato, onion and garlic in a food processor) and your dialled.

Excercise wise (ha, haha), riding does nothing, especially if its dh. Road and XC is good, but walking or running is better. Skiing (tele and DH) is even better. Swimming is best. But aim for half an hour of hard exercise a day.

Most importantly is when you weigh and how you weigh. Do it twice a week, at the same time week in week out. Keep a diary and track how your weight goes.

The shame of coming "clean" is hard, but being fat is worse.

Plow King
21-07-2006, 10:51 PM
The shame of coming "clean" is hard

Sounds like your on drugs, HAH.

Yeah, thanks for that really gives me an idea.

Basically i eat.

Weatbix for breakfast

low fat yohgurts

sandwhichs with low fat ham or turkey on wholemeal bread without butter for lunch

A yohgurt in the afternoon

And some grilled chicken breast on wholemeal bread for dinner

Then afterwards I usually have some fruit.

Fun fun!

twitchy
22-07-2006, 06:25 AM
Seems most of the advice on here is pretty solid.....

What you have done which would of helped you start the weight loss norcohavoc is eating Breakie, when you skip meals the body goes into starvation mode & starts to store food just in case there is gunna be a shortage. In short skipping meals can actually help you GAIN weight. Good to hear your taking your health into your own hands & doing somethin!!!!!!!!!!!!!

ScottD
22-07-2006, 09:48 AM
I have a better diet....

it's called the "get on a road bike and do 700km a week"

I guarentee you'll lose weight

that worked for me, i never really ate bad foods i was just a little nugget. I built myself up a road bike and lost a fair amount of weight in a short space of time mean while eating alot more than i originally was.
I was doing about 450km a week before a broke myelbow 3 months ago and have just started back this week on the roadie. knocked up 300km last week without even trying. I am lucky cause i can ride to and from school so theres 25km each week day plus one big ride during the week then 2 big rides on saturday and sunday

Buy yourself a roadie, it doesnt have to be expensive. My frame cost me $50

as for diet get your mum to make you some muslie and put some flaxseed in it and sunflower seeds, tastes the good and it good for you. For lunch try and make a chicken salad rather than having it on a sandwhich

Plow King
30-07-2006, 05:30 PM
Update. 6.7kg in 4 weeks :D

bazza
30-07-2006, 06:33 PM
good on ya man. im inspired to start eating breakfast again. i stopped because than i didnt get hungry until dinner. but yeah. time to start eating breakfast again i think! and yeah roadies rule. i gotta get a trainer for mine as well so i can just sit in my room and ride with no excuses and i can watch tv at the same time :). but im about to start swimming again when the local pool gets filled back up. good advice right here.

santa-claws
31-07-2006, 05:51 PM
i eat really well.
then i started jogging 3 km every morning for three weeks & lost 8kgs.
though i wasnt planning on losing weight......

bazza
31-07-2006, 10:36 PM
lets start a farkin weight loss/physical improvement scheme sticky!

i want to loss my stomach. i gotta measure it and than i want to reduce that to something that isnt turning into a little pot belly. i also want to have a large amount more of upper body strenght. so i want to be able to do 10 chin ups x 3 reps in a session and be able to do 10 push ups by 3 reps. should be pretty easy. just going to start eating breakfast again and having lighter dinners/smaller servings. and cut out the soft drink and shit food. coke zero is finally good for something! for the time being anyway.