ourimbah august 6th

[DH_Freak]

chris did not want to post this up as he made the last one and didnt end up going.
so as usual.
WHOS GOING?

[Plow King]

chris did not want to post this up as he made the last one and didnt end up going.
so as usual.
WHO'S GOING?

your an idiot? why would you post it up 3 weeks before the race:p

Hahaha, just joking reece.

I WILL be going to this round.

[tinkerbell]

should be a good race good prc before the champ's there .

[Big_Al]

hahaha
i was wondering why i didnt get a serving from chris about why i didnt go.
YAY reece

[DH_Freak]

hahaha
i was wondering why i didnt get a serving from chris about why i didnt go.
YAY reece
what areyou yaying me for Al? hehe how many HT's will be there this race as we did not have many HT racers last race. well actually not many racers at all! why is this?
what is every bodies goal time for this race?
im hoping for under 4 10.
REece.

[mr636]

what is every bodies goal time for this race?
im hoping for under 4 10.


well id like to break into the 3 min bracket, but im not going to be here for that race. should be sitting on a plane to whistler W00t!!!!!!!!!

[arpit]

what are you saying me for Al? hehe how many HT's will be there this race as we did not have many HT racers last race. well actually not many racers at all! why is this?
what is every bodies goal time for this race?
im hoping for under 4 10.
Reece.


Congrats on your excellent time last round Reece. I imagine that many riders were scared by the thought of downhilling on a muddy track. Also, a significant percentage of hardtail riders had to skip their race rounds because of a tummy injury :P

I'm keen for the next round. Hopefully by then I'll have a new downhill bike AND a kidney belt. That mean me going in sport class and competing with dually riders! :O Scary thoughts! I think I might have been pushing myself a bit hard in the last round. My big stack wasn't the only one I had... I also stacked on berms, trees. And I rode the rock garden, (including the drop at the end) sitting astride the top tube with no pedals. The photographer's wince when I landed that drop was great :p I can't imagine I was looking too happy either though! (Don't post pics photo dude! :P ) With that in mind, and with the possibility of a new bike, I'm going to try to beat 5:15.

I still can't get over how friendly everyone is there...
People were shuttling randoms; everyone was willing to answer questions.
When I first stacked and couldnt get off the track, riders flying off the drop didn't swear at me, and managed to go around...
When I was sitting at the side for about 10-15 min trying to get an idea of my injuries and formulate a plan of action in a (very) dizzy state, I had about 10 riders going past ask me if I was ok.
When I realised that I wasn't really okay, but that I could move with assistance, Johnny from farkin recognised me (!). He and another bloke (sorry dude, I was dizzy and don't remember your name) helped me and my bike down the course.

When I got to the admin area, the Wards gave me ice and were really concerned about me... They kept asking me if I wanted an ambulance. I knew that I was probably okay, barring a bladder problem, so declined. I imagine they thought I was just trying to be macho, so were understandably worried. The pain got quite a bit worse, as swelling occurred, so I couldn't really walk anywhere.
The parents gave me a place to sit, chatted with me, gave me food and water, and made me laugh (which was incredibly painful!). Their girl got me a blanket, and their boys came and chat to me for a while. Johnny turned up and gave an excellent diagnosis of my injuries, which put the Wards greatly at ease. The Wards let me call my parents who confirmed exactly what Johnny said. The Wards even hunted down a downhilling doctor who decided that I wasn't going to die :)

Really, the mountain biking community is hugely different from what one might expect from reading these forums. Johnny is incredibly more amicable than his avatar might imply. Furthermore, noone walked up to me and started swearing at me, in butchered English, for riding an STP.

See you guys at the next round!

[Cletus]

i'll be there. i just posted my first time under 4 mins at the last race(yesterday) and came away with the win in expert men, so now i guess i'll be bumped up to elite and have the likes of kelly in my catagory:o i've only gotta take another 30+ seconds of my time and i'll win elite:o easy!!!:rolleyes:

[mr636]

bout time you moved out expert, ya bloody sandbagger!!

good work getting under 4 mins.

[Dazed&Confuzed]

Transport will be supplied on the day. At this stage 4 buses with trailers.
Entry fee will be $30 for the day to cover the cost of transport.
Rego will start at 8:00am. Racing at 12:30pm.
Western Sydney MTB will be there so expect a fair crowd.
Parts of the track have been changed a bit already so take it easy on your first runs. The fast line down the steep section before the first log jump is one section that has been changed. Where riders were going between the rock and a tree, a large rock has been added. The original rock is still rollable, the new rock is not.
The finish is in the process of being changed. The track will be about 50 metres longer and run parallel with the road after the last step-down, not turn onto the fire road. It will not be a flat run, expect a jump or two.
See you there.

[johnny]

Are there any plans to do something about the ruts leading into the second rock garden/log drop? There's some serious excavation going on there!

[Cletus]

great work FIGJAM i cant wait to see the changes, but to disagree with johnny(sorry mate:p ) i like the rutted out corner before the second log drop. if you pick the right line you can pin it around that section, but if you dont your in trouble. and thats how it should be imo.
how good was the jump leading into the rock garden! you fly through that section now, i like it!

[Dazed&Confuzed]

We will be doing some work on that corner, but not before the championships.
Forests NSW do not like the amount of erosion that is occurring there. We will armour it with a lot of rock. It will still be rough but the erosion will be reduced.
The erosion problem is why the rock was put in the steep section before the first log drop. The rut was getting too deep too fast.
The section near the start will have some work done on it as well. The deep left hand rut will stay but the section of track before that will be built up so the water does not run into the corner.

[whitey89]

So what actually happens on these race days?
What i mean is do you get many prac runs or would you recomend going up there on a day that is not a race day to get in some runs?

[DIGITALPIMP]

So what actually happens on these race days?
What i mean is do you get many prac runs or would you recomend going up there on a day that is not a race day to get in some runs?

It Depends on how early you get your ass out of bed and up to Ourimbah!....Usualy Practice is cut off about 1/2hr before the first timed runs start (check site for start times, they vary throughout the year due to daylight saving), if there is alot of people shuttling then you can get quite a few practice runs in, but you should chuck the person shuttling for you a few bucks for petrol, as CCOMTB doesnt supply shuttles as to keep the costs low for riders.;) But you wont find a better run club day than what the crew at CCOMTB put on!

[mike&nat]

Transport will be supplied on the day. At this stage 4 buses with trailers.
Entry fee will be $30 for the day to cover the cost of transport.
Rego will start at 8:00am. Racing at 12:30pm.
Western Sydney MTB will be there so expect a fair crowd.
Parts of the track have been changed a bit already so take it easy on your first runs. The fast line down the steep section before the first log jump is one section that has been changed. Where riders were going between the rock and a tree, a large rock has been added. The original rock is still rollable, the new rock is not.
The finish is in the process of being changed. The track will be about 50 metres longer and run parallel with the road after the last step-down, not turn onto the fire road. It will not be a flat run, expect a jump or two.
See you there.

is this ^ all for the championships or the 6th the club round thing? or both? and with the jumps make em so we can pull big whips off them:p . oh and dont change the two little berms at the start of the rockgarden. thats all. this is just gonna make it harder for me to get in the 3mins i dont think i'll ever make it:( . oh yeah i should be there on the 6th

[Wayno]

is this ^ all for the championships or the 6th the club round thing? or both? and with the jumps make em so we can pull big whips off them:p . oh and dont change the two little berms at the start of the rockgarden. thats all. this is just gonna make it harder for me to get in the 3mins i dont think i'll ever make it:( . oh yeah i should be there on the 6th

That is just for the one round (the 6th) before the champs as we are expecting a few people to turn up. This way we can make sure everyone is getting some runs and to make it safer for all involved.

[Mattydv]

Does anyone know what would be a relatively good time for a first time rider at Ourimbah u/17's? I'm heading out for the State Champs and just wanting to know what time i should be going for.

[Cletus]

Matty dv, you live in new castle right? how could you live so close but not have ridden the track? get there and ride.
oh and time will just reflect the quality of rider you are, if your a reasonable rider you will get down in around 4 mins, exeptional rider under 3:30, a hacker over 4:30. how would you describe you riding? check the last rounds results.

[DIGITALPIMP]

a hacker over 4:30 ......... Dont call me a hacker!!! lol 4.30 Aint too bad if you are riding a hardtail and old..and unfit...and a smoker...man I need to train and quit the durries!!!???hahahahaha

[DH_Freak]

......... Dont call me a hacker!!! lol 4.30 Aint too bad if you are riding a hardtail and old..and unfit...and a smoker...MAN I NEED TO TRAIN AND QUIT THE DURRIES!!!!???hahahahahaYES.....YES YOU DO NOW MATT! i am never going to get under 4 if you extend the track! GOD DAMNIT oh and i gotta love that enw jump into the rock garden, is a little sketchy on a HT as your flying and have to brake before that berm, BUT FARKIN AWESOME!
cant wait till next round.
REece.

[Cletus]

......... Dont call me a hacker!!! lol 4.30 Aint too bad if you are riding a hardtail and old..and unfit...and a smoker...man I need to train and quit the durries!!!???hahahahaha

my appologies DIGITALPIMP, 4:30 on a hardtail is a pretty good time.
oh and as reece says GIVE UP THE DURRIES! spend all that cash you would save on your bike;)

[DIGITALPIMP]

my appologies DIGITALPIMP, 4:30 on a hardtail is a pretty good time.
oh and as reece says GIVE UP THE DURRIES! spend all that cash you would save on your bike;)
That my good man is a plan! Theres just too much to buy!
Yeah, who can argue with ya reece? I mean your pulling in 4.15's so you might have a point!

[DH_Freak]

That my good man is a plan! Theres just too much to buy!
Yeah, who can argue with ya reece? I mean your pulling in 4.15's so you might have a point!
not just a point for riding! QUITTING SMOKING WILL MAKE YOU LIVE LONGER! true story:D
REece.

[Plow King]

2 weeks!!! Braaaaaaap.

I've got heaps of practise in so hopefully it pays off, probably not though :o .

Ahwell, all in the name of fun, eh?

[fleshbone]

argh,i dunno abouth this one.i am kinda keen.i mean,i did'nt want to dissapointed reece by beating him,hehe anr,hopefully i'll come.:p

[Mattydv]

Matty dv, you live in new castle right? how could you live so close but not have ridden the track? get there and ride.

I know it sucks. My parents have a reluctance to drive me places, and due to the lack of downhillers that live in my immediate area its hard to get lifts.
Still it keeps me fit having to ride everywhere. :p

[SLICK_ZERO]

il be there reece hopefully racing on my new bike fingers crossed

[Dazed&Confuzed]

The new finish was completed on Sunday. It adds about 2 seconds to the track time. It finishes about 25 metres past where the finish timing was set up last race. The boys testing it were doing about 8 metrs of that 25 in the air.
The up ramp to the step-down has been altered and the step-down has an 'A' line and a 'B' line.
Take it easy first time through.

[arpit]

The new finish was completed on Sunday.

Thanks mate, we appreciate it!

How do you reckon the track will look with another week of rain?

[fleshbone]

ah,sweet,it sounds kick arse.im stoked,if i come still.i know im getting hurt come the 6th hehe.sweet.:D

[T-Rex]

The new finish was completed on Sunday. It adds about 2 seconds to the track time. It finishes about 25 metres past where the finish timing was set up last race. The boys testing it were doing about 8 metrs of that 25 in the air.
The up ramp to the step-down has been altered and the step-down has an 'A' line and a 'B' line.
Take it easy first time through.

Thanks for your hard work on Sunday FIGJAM. Looking forward to trying it out.

[fatnold]

i assume that was all the activity on sunday near that little kicker at the end. i shot off that and then straight into confusion. i should of stopped and checked it out. man that track is in great condition. you guys are doing a great job.

[Dazed&Confuzed]

The finish section now runs parallel with the fire road. The right turn that put you onto the little kicker then onto the fire road is out. 4 people got nailed off that kicker on the last race day, and it's after the finish line.
The 'A' line was put in by 4 of the boys that ride in elite, only 3 of the 4 could clean it after a bit of practise on Sunday. Mere mortals should stick to the 'B' line.

[sockman]

pics or it didnt happen!! the track sounds awesome, ill see you all up there on the 6'th

also im probably going to be there this weekend, so if anyone is heading up post here or pm me

[Squidly Didly]

The new finish was completed on Sunday. It adds about 2 seconds to the track time. It finishes about 25 metres past where the finish timing was set up last race. The boys testing it were doing about 8 metrs of that 25 in the air.
The up ramp to the step-down has been altered and the step-down has an 'A' line and a 'B' line.
Take it easy first time through.
ARRR She be a fine finish line matey.

I should be able to make it up again this Sunday if you lads will be doing more maintenance.

[Dazed&Confuzed]

There's always track maintenance going on.
The trees that might leap out in front of riders around the finish are now all padded. For those riders that feel they need to hug a tree it will be a bit more comfortable for you. I will be glad when the championships are over, its going to be a bit hard sleeping on the floor.
The track doesn't look too bad after all the rain. A couple of places that we thought might be a problem are holding up quite well.

[Dazed&Confuzed]

$30 race entry
Rego starts 8:00 am
Practise starts as soon as the transport arrives.
Last practise run 11:30 am
Race Start 12:30 am. 2 timed runs. 30 second intervals.

Race order
Women
Hardtail
U15
Masters
Sport
U17
Expert
U19
Elite

[Plow King]

$30 race entry
Rego starts 8:00 am
Practise starts as soon as the transport arrives.
Last practise run 11:30 am
Race Start 12:30 am. 2 timed runs. 30 second intervals.

Race order
Women
Hardtail
U15
Masters
Sport
U17
Expert
U19
Elite

Cheers mate!

Do you know approximatly how many people are coming from lithgow?

[Mr Sheen]

Looks like i mite head up and give hardtail another shot.:D

[Butch]

nice name change figjam , hmm ill see if i can , not overley keen racing the state round , Havent been on a bike since december , sounds like a treat :D

[arpit]

G'day! Anyone planning on heading to Ourimbah mid-week? Maybe even on the 5th?

I'd love to get some more practice runs in, since I'll be on a dually for the first time in my life. It feels all... squishy! It's the darndest thing! :p I don't even know if it's set up correctly, so I'd like an opportunity to rectify any problems before the race.

Now I'd really love it if I could give you petrol money and shuttle with you, especially if you've got a Ute. I can only drive automatic though. That said, I'm always willing to try manual ;) (seriously, never done it before)

Another option would be to use my car (If you've got a drivers licence). I should be able to fit 2 hardtails on it, besides my own bike. We might need to take the wheels off one and put it in the boot though. I'm not sure yet.

Let me know,
Arpit

[Wayno]

about 20-30 plus HMBA and CCOMTB should be like a State round in itself. Can't wait should be fun

Cheers mate!

Do you know approximatly how many people are coming from lithgow?

[Dazed&Confuzed]

Hey Squid, how do you like the last section of track to the finish line?
There were lots of smiley faces after riders were pushing their limits a bit further and not being nailed.
The Havoc boys (AC & DP) were making the "B" line look easy and photo friendly at the same time.
Should be good with the Red Bull arch to jump through.

[Squidly Didly]

Hey Squid, how do you like the last section of track to the finish line?
Beautiful! Enough to get riders all squirily at speed, yet easy enough to roll through on a bmx.
The Red Bull arch should add a nice touch to those boosting the A-Line. Yeow

[Plow King]

Could someone please get photos of the last bit?

thanks chris

[Dazed&Confuzed]

Should be lots of photos after next Sunday.
Only one tree hugger today and he was thanking the padding afterwards.

[Daver]

Hey Al or Wayno- whats the go with practice- you say it starts as soon as the transport arives, so when do you reckon the transport will be there?

[Dazed&Confuzed]

2 Buses are booked for 8:30 am for the CCOMTB & WSMTB trailers.
That gives us time to get a few riders registered and bikes on the trailers.
HMBA are supplying a trailer and a traytop. The Bike Barn are supplying a trailer and bus. It depends on when they get there as to when they can start the shuttles.
The Bike Barn riders ( I think there are 5 of them) have priority on their bus because they are not charging us for the use of the bus, they can take another 6 riders each run.
Reeces' bro. will be doing shuttles as well and Reece gets priority there.
The Pylet bus may be turning up as well.
There should be enough transport to get a few runs in.

[Plow King]

Hold on... So is the extra 20 manditory?

[fleshbone]

sorry for my incompetance(?) but ive gone through this thread and have read all this info about the race on the 6th of august.with all of the info being scattered it has confused on whats the go.

i read that we pay $30 or something and then we are shuttled and then we pay an extra $20:confused: .so if someone could please just put all the info in 1 big post im sure it would help me and maybe some others too.

cheers:)

[the F.H.B]

Entry is $30. Says so on the first page, dont know where you the extra $20 from?
Should cost $15 for a day licence if dont have a mtba licence but $20?

[Wayno]

It is $30 for the day if you are a MTBA member, that will include transport provided for by the club. If you are purchasing a day licence it will cost you an extra $15. No extra $20. If you are not quite sure, you should go direct to the source either myself (Wayno) or Figjam if you have any question re. The CCOMTB club, as we are the ones who know. Not everyone else.

[Cletus]

is that bull $h!+ about the red bull arch? that would be pretty sweet to see! i'll be boosting the a line for sure:D

[scblack]

is that bull $h!+ about the red bull arch? that would be pretty sweet to see! i'll be boosting the a line for sure:D
The Red Bull arch will be right next to the bikini babes.:D

[Daver]

It is $30 for the day if you are a MTBA member, that will include transport provided for by the club. If you are purchasing a day licence it will cost you an extra $15. No extra $20. If you are not quite sure, you should go direct to the source either myself (Wayno) or Figjam if you have any question re. The CCOMTB club, as we are the ones who know. Not everyone else.

I think hes talking about the fact that this club round will be $20 more than a normal club round.

[Plow King]

So even if we have our own shuttles the 30 dollars is manditory right?

thanks chris

[DH_Freak]

Reeces' bro. will be doing shuttles as well and Reece gets priority there.
.
my brother and i willl ber there at 8. as everybody knows its the white nissan patrol. it will have a great big utopia banner on the back of it.

[Dazed&Confuzed]

Finish area pics.

[Wayno]

No private shuttles

[G-Man]

No private shuttles

Yepers what Wayno said ,, backed up with !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! raaahhhh

no need for your own of they gots the trailers which
with theres "CCMTC" and ours "WSMTB" there will be plenty ..

Catch yas up there ..

G-man outy ..

[PyletSnviper]

can someone give a rundown of the whole track?? i have never been to ourimba before and i wanna know what to expect as i have just bought a demo 9 and will be racing it now instead of my HT i used to race.... thanks

[Big_Al]

http://www.bikeaddiction.com.au/downloads/vids.htm
Go to that site
There are a few videos of the track
One of them is a helmet cam with Tom Patton
The track has changed since that video though
Cheers Al

[Cletus]

well looking at the weather reports it looks like it will be raining on saturday and sunday for the club race (trust). will racing still be on or will it be called off?
fingers crossed the weather report will be wrong (as usuall)

[G-Man]

well looking at the weather reports it looks like it will be raining on saturday and sunday for the club race (trust). will racing still be on or will it be called off?
fingers crossed the weather report will be wrong (as usuall)

Hmmm ??

Wayno - would you guys call it off if it rains it's arse off between now and then to save the track for the Champs ??

i know your joint holds up pretty well in the wet ,, we've raced in
the rain there a time or two b-4 ..

Give us a shout out to ease the minds ..

thansk bud ..

G-man outy

[Wayno]

I have spoken with Al, and unless it is bucketing down Sunday the race will still be on. Hopefully it rains on Saturday making the track nice and tacky


Hmmm ??

Wayno - would you guys call it off if it rains it's arse off between now and then to save the track for the Champs ??

i know your joint holds up pretty well in the wet ,, we've raced in
the rain there a time or two b-4 ..

Give us a shout out to ease the minds ..

thansk bud ..

G-man outy

[Renegade]

Does the track get puddly in any section after it rains heavily. Been up quiet a few times but not when it had rained the day before?. Thanx

[Cletus]

will anybody be taking a broome up? will any of the pylet boys be bringing some stuff up ur any race organisers? i wouldnt mine sweeping the water off track before practise runs start and then againg before racing if it keeps raining through the day(thats right, i offered to do it. i just need a broome:p )

[ScottD]

will anybody be taking a broome up? will any of the pylet boys be bringing some stuff up ur any race organisers? i wouldnt mine sweeping the water off track before practise runs start and then againg before racing if it keeps raining through the day(thats right, i offered to do it. i just need a broome:p )

I am comin up but aint racin so I will stick one in and I can do it if you want

[Squidly Didly]

I am comin up but aint racin so I will stick one in and I can do it if you want
Why aren't you racing Scott?

[Dazed&Confuzed]

There is only one spot that retains water and that is the fire road below the rock garden. A track is beginning to form around it.
At this stage (Friday 10:30pm) the race is still on.
There are very conflicting weather reports. The Gosford weather station says that it will be fine and sunny (but it is trying to coax tourists to the area)
For a good look at the prevailing conditions check out

http://www.bom.gov.au/

Go to the radar and satelite pictures. The radar shows rain that is falling, not cloud cover.

Keep an eye on this site. Wayne and I will make a decision at about 11:00am Saturday.

It's a lot more than just saying the race is off. There are a lot of other things to cover.
We organised rubbish bins and they are on site now.
The toilets are on site now.
We have the radios that we usually hire for the usual club days.
The Wards have ordered 35 loaves of bread for the BBQ.
The buses have to have plastic on the seats to reduce the cleaning time for them. Getting rid of the red mud will be a big job for them if the road is muddy.
If the road to the top is too slippery the buses may not be able to run. They have appointments on Monday and do not want to take a bent (not related to bendy) bus to the next appointment.

Part of the proceeds from the day will be going to James Brodie who is a club member that is part of the junior team that will be competing at the World Championships in NZ this year.
We have done this for Brock Newling, Hugh Mansfield and Garry Millburn when they were members of the Australian team in previous years.

If the rain stops the track will be nice and sticky. The log drops and the finish area drain really well and will not be a concern.

At this stage we are planning on:
2 timed runs
Race start time 12:30 (Women, Hardtails, U15 must be at the start at that time)
30 second intervals. Don't hold off your start time or we will have to give out torches for the last riders.

keep your eye on this site. We will keep you posted.

[ScottD]

Why aren't you racing Scott?

I still got bloody 7 or so inches of metal in my elbow. I have already had 5 months off dont wanna have more cause i screwed it up by falling on it.
Giving me the shits. brand new bike and no DH yet:mad:

[Squidly Didly]

I still got bloody 7 or so inches of metal in my elbow. I have already had 5 months off dont wanna have more cause i screwed it up by falling on it.
Giving me the shits. brand new bike and no DH yet:mad:
Yeah i'd say that'sa fair enough reason.

If it makes you feel better, James aka nutter on here, cracked his D2 practicing on the track the other day. Imagin what his head feels like!

[ScottD]

i rode down ingleside the other day and almost shat myself. I am not looking foward to coming back
Was that on the new section?

[Dazed&Confuzed]

We have made the decision and racing is definitely happening on Sunday.
See you at the track.:) :) :)

[arpit]

Awesome!! I'll be there by 8:30! Guys if you see me come say hi!
I'm the short dark dude with the dodgy-as method of carrying his poser bike on his car :p

Oh and I'll be wearing my new dodgy-as kidney protectors ! (2 exercise books duct taped around my waist)

[Cletus]

i'll be there , i'll be the one with the big tarp strung up in the trees.:) so if the heavens open and you wanna stay dry come up and say hi:D
i cant wait, never riden ourimbah in the wet....YEW!!!

[ScottD]

I will give a mobile phone at cost price if you let us hang under there if it starts to piss down:)

[Cletus]

only a mobile phone? c'mon, you can do better than that:D :D
seriously, everyones welcome(as long as i can fit in there too:p )

[Mr Sheen]

Il be there. Red van on a green hitman. I love the track when its a bit damp , nice and tacky and no dust. Should be fun , just a shame i seem to have lost my goggles so i gotta look out for flying mud.
*EDIT* ok so i wont be in a red van , and i found my goggles yeew.!

[sammydog]

What an awesome days riding. Huge thanks to the CCOMTB for putting on a great day. Shuttles were great, organisation great and the BBQ even better.

Bit wet in a few spots in the first run or two, but that all sorted itself out pretty quick.

Bring on the state champs next week.

[tinkerbell]

great day had fun nice track to good in the wet loved it .

[grubby]

the day was run and organized great. big congates to the central coast club. love the changes to the track. :D

[the F.H.B]

A big thanks to all those that helped out with the day and the track work!
I had a great day, awesome conditions to ride in and a personal best time:D

[DIGITALPIMP]

Yeah a few people have mixed reactions to the changes, the change at the finish is brilliant- what a cool spot for boosting in style! now if only I could!, and it only claimed one dislocated shoulder !(who ever you were dude, GL! Hope it wasnt too painful getting that back in. But Damn nice effort picking up your rig and running through the finish!!! Nice move!)
I think the changes at the top section just needs a bit of packing down then it will be sweet.
CCOMTB and all associates- Bloody Brilliant job as per usual.

Any idea on how much time the new sections would have added to the overall distance?

Thanks Guys!

[sammydog]

The new finish area is superb. Bit slippery just before you cross the line, but one awesome spectator point.

I think we will see some carnage in there next weekend.

[Cletus]

what club owns the number plates we used today? i accidently took mine and a mates one home:o sorry, i'll bring em back up with me next weekend.
the track was sooooooo good for the race runs, the new line going into the a'line drop at the top of the trail was awsome, you can pin it over that section now easy! and the new section in the middle of the track was fun but i didnt think too much of the new finish. maybe when it dries out a bit it might be better? alot of other guys i talked to today seemed to love it! maybe its just me:rolleyes:
see you all next weekend:D :D :D

[Brunchman]

Big thanks to all who helped make this event happen! Bloody fantastic day :) Congrats to Wayne and all the guys for the great track changes..... That finish line is awesome:D . Great job guys. See you next week.

[Bazil_1]

I left early, was there a presentation of sorts? Or did they display the results? if so, who won the hardtail division

[arpit]

G'day cletus! Clad to hear you had fun. I didnt stack at all this time :p
I believe the number plates belog to the CCOMTB club.

Wait, there's a new line going into a drop at the top of the trail!? Probably didn't notice it, my goggles are safety specs issued from SES and are heaps scratched :p Wait, do you mean the little jump? Yeah I roll over that! Go me ;)

I was slipping all over that middle section early in the day but it got heaps better by my race runs.

Won't see me next weekend :( I don't have a licence :( Ah well, maybe another time! If I head up there for some push runs sometime I'll let people know! I want to try that double in the middle I see heaps of people doing. I don't think I'll gain much time by taking it, but i'd love to try. I;m heaps worried about front wheel casing it though! Maybe next time I head up there to practice I'll put a bit of wood over the gap temprarily and give it a shot!

Cheers, Arpit

[Dazed&Confuzed]

Results are on the web site now.
http://www.ccomtb.org.au/results_round_6.htm
Thanks to all the helpers.
It was a big day, 146 riders and nearly everyone got 2 timed runs.
Brad won again, 4 seconds in front.
Most riders times are about the same as the old finish. It only adds about 25 metres to the track length.

[fleshbone]

i didnt race but checked the times,for the added extras the times are still solid,good on ya reece for the ht's and the stp's good to see greater improvement on arpit's time too.

[Squidly Didly]

Yeow. Well done everyone. Was an awesome day.
Wasn't too stoked with my time, but i'm happier now after looking at the overalls.
Mate of mine was out filming today and we'll be putting a small clip from the race togather as soon as time permits.

OT: How are the times for the top ten in Sport Class. You guys really need to sort yourselves out.

[sammydog]

OT: How are the times for the top ten in Sport Class. You guys really need to sort yourselves out.

Not wrong there, but how many will actually step up for the champs???

Lets see a sandbag free state champs :eek:

[Squidly Didly]

Not wrong there, but how many will actually step up for the champs???
How many of them have full licences ;)

[arpit]

... good to see greater improvement on arpit time too.

Thanks mate! I think it's largely to do with the new bike rather than skill though :)


Yeah... I had a look at the times.... Wow.... The winner of sport got the same time as the winner of expert.

I don't like that. The rules say that you need to move over when the call of rider is made. The idea is that if people in your category have caught up to you by 30 seconds, it doesn't matter if you have to stop, because you've probably screwed up your race run. Yet, when there are people who are so fast in sport, it's foreseeable that there will be situations where riders who are legitimately pushing their boundaries and having excellent runs are forced to stop and leave the track to give way to a rider who probably should be in Expert.
It's good to have as little passing as possible. Not only will it screw with the passed rider's time, its also very dangerous. People get spooked and stack. Luckily I didn't get passed today, but I can't say the same about others.

I appreciate that in many cases riders may not have the self-confidence to step up a grade. They may not believe that they'll be able to consistently produce fast times. It requires a bit of guts to label yourself as an 'expert' at anything. This is where a firm official recommendation that any rider who beat, say, 4:20 or 4:30 in any race run last race should be upgraded from sport to expert would come in handy.

What do you guys think?

[sockman]

totally agree with arpit on that one.

My only one grip is that i only got 1 proper run all day:( my aerial chainguide shat itself within 50 meters of the start so when i did eventually get down it took me a solid 30 mins to fix... then because i got lazy and let a mate ride my bike for the 2nd race run, i now have a bigger damage bill than i can pay for:((most of it is because im a hack) oh well better luck next time.

big thanks to the organisers and everyone who turned up.

see you all next week

[bikeculture]

I would like to say a huge thanks to all the people at ourimbah yesterday. It was great fun. Thanks to all the organising people and the volunteers who helped out and all the people who helped with the uplift.

rock on CCOMTB!

[Dazed&Confuzed]

The club cut-off time for the "sport" class is 4:10 and for "expert" is 3:50.
We don't enforce it but most riders sort themselves out reasonably well.
The first 8 riders in sport on Sunday were not regular riders of the track, the rider that came 9th is a regular rider and did a 4:18 which is within the class limits.
With regards overtaking, if you have a look at the start sheets next time you enter you will find everyones fastest time beside their name. The start list is updated after each Club race. This means that any rider that has entered a club race will be in order as to their race time.
If anyone arrives and has not been to a race before they are put on the bottom of the list. We do not know how fast they will be and they cannot be slotted in further up the field because we do not know who else will be showing up to ride.
The list gets a bit long towards the end of the year so riders that have not raced for a while and non club members get dropped from the list.
The system works reasonably well most of the time. Can you think of a better way to do it?

[Dazed&Confuzed]

Hey Reece, you missed the fastest hardtail time of the day, Rider number 711 in U17s was on a hardtail and did a 4:13.6

[Cletus]

i thought the cut off time for expert was 4 mins? 3:50 is probably a better time though considering how many guys are in the 3:20's, 30's, and 40's i think i'll stay in elite for now though with my pb of 3:55. hoping to push into the high 40's soon:D

[Plow King]

It's good to see theres a sporting chance for beginners to win sport.:rolleyes:

[Cletus]

yeah, it's pretty sad when riders that can get under the 4 min mark are still riding in sport, thats pretty pissweak. sport is for beginers, give em a break.

[scblack]

Maybe the name of Sport class should be changed to BEGINNERS.

Who would be proud of having won the BEGINNERS class at any race meeting?

[Plow King]

Maybe the name of Sport class should be changed to BEGINNERS.

Who would be proud of having won the BEGINNERS class at any race meeting?

Sounds like a plan. there would be about 1 entrant a race in that catagory ;)

[Cletus]

this is just a thinking out loud thing, but how about a group for first timers so there not in any catagory, they can get a timed run and the'll get allocated into there respective grades for there next race meet? this will stop a lot of sandbagging and leave the graded race positions for those who deserve it?
it may be a bit of a pain to organise though?

[Wayno]

I would like to thank all that came up and had a good time, and those who helped out. Some carnage was had on the day, me included (still hurts, thanks for the concern as a lay on the ground). Does anyone know how is the guy who did his shoulder? Glad to see the rain Gods held out on Sunday. Should be a good champs next weekend, can't wait. See you there

[tankengine]

yeah, it's pretty sad when riders that can get under the 4 min mark are still riding in sport, thats pretty pissweak. sport is for beginers, give em a break.

hey all.. i was one of those sand bags in sport who cracked the 4 min mark, i havent ridin in almost 2 years (have just started riding again) and it was only the second time id riden my new bike, so i had no real idea how fast i could go. i now have an idea of where im at n will make sure to class myself better next time.

[Dazed&Confuzed]

but how about a group for first timers so there not in any catagory, they can get a timed run and the'll get allocated into there respective grades for there next race meet? this will stop a lot of sandbagging and leave the graded race positions for those who deserve it?
it may be a bit of a pain to organise though?

That was tried in the State series in 2005, it was called "novice", From my bad memory I think there were 2 entrants in the whole series.

From the MTBA Rules you can always ride in a higher class so Cletus doing a 3:55 and riding in Elite is considered to be OK.

The rider with the dislocated shoulder is Nathan Moon from Newcastle. He was taken to Gosford hospital. I haven't heard how he is going.

[DIGITALPIMP]

The rider with the dislocated shoulder is Nathan Moon from Newcastle. He was taken to Gosford hospital. I haven't heard how he is going.
GL with the Shoulder Nathan....Hope it popped back in as easy as it came out...BTW..My mate has a shot of your crash, just as you are about to hug dirt...Ill get em up here asap..I think everyone will be impressed with their photos..there are some real pearlers!
I cant believe we all yelled at him to pick up his bike and run to the finish with it! What a bloody supreme effort Nath!!! If we saw your shoulder poking out before hand I think we all would have picked HIM and his pushie up for him and ran him over the line...

As with all the class timing issues, can the club maybe have a rule where you have to put yourself up a level if you run two rounds under the allowed cut off bracket? It doesnt effect me at all since I will only be riding a Hardtail for this season, but you can understand that it would be frustrating for some of the guys trying to win a lower class with people hogging the limelight with riding ability which suits the next level up....

And are we allowed to tie up/staple to a tree Reece for the day so we (hardtaillers) can get a shot at some points?? or is this against some weird rule? LOL:D

[arpit]

The club cut-off time for the "sport" class is 4:10 and for "expert" is 3:50.
We don't enforce it but most riders sort themselves out reasonably well.
The first 8 riders in sport on Sunday were not regular riders of the track, the rider that came 9th is a regular rider and did a 4:18 which is within the class limits.
With regards overtaking, if you have a look at the start sheets next time you enter you will find everyones fastest time beside their name. The start list is updated after each Club race. This means that any rider that has entered a club race will be in order as to their race time.
If anyone arrives and has not been to a race before they are put on the bottom of the list. We do not know how fast they will be and they cannot be slotted in further up the field because we do not know who else will be showing up to ride.
The list gets a bit long towards the end of the year so riders that have not raced for a while and non club members get dropped from the list.
The system works reasonably well most of the time. Can you think of a better way to do it?


Okay that makes sense mate. Putting inexperienced people last is a great way to do things. However, I'm puzzling as to this:
When I first raced on hardtail in round 4 I told everyone that I'd never ridden downhill before, let alone raced it. However, there were PLENTY of people behind me, many of whom were quite fast.
Was there a reason for this, or was it just a stuff up?


Oh and Figjam- thanks for a great race mate.

[dirtjump_davo]

hey guys

Im the guy that came first in sport... Im sorry if you all think im sandbagging i didnt realise i was goin that good im pretty new to the sport and i asure you i will be riding in expert for the state champs... sorry if i pissed anyone off

[arpit]

hey guys

Im the guy that came first in sport... Im sorry if you all think im sandbagging i didnt realise i was goin that good im pretty new to the sport and i asure you i will be riding in expert for the state champs... sorry if i pissed anyone off


It's cool mate. Congratulations on an excellent time. Figjam explained that you don't ride the track regularly, so it might have been hard to judge what time you'd get.

And thisnext bit isn't directed solely at you.
The mistake is certainly understandable, but it was avoidable. Digitalpimp actually bought himself a cheap timer to use on practice runs. It's hard to tell how fast you are doing practice runs, but timing yourself THEN entering an appropriate category is a simple solution.

[dirtjump_davo]

Yea thanks mate..

yea thats a really good idea... Ill be racing expert from now on so there should be no more problems...:)

[baldychoko]

I would like to thank all that came up and had a good time, and those who helped out. Some carnage was had on the day, me included (still hurts, thanks for the concern as a lay on the ground). Does anyone know how is the guy who did his shoulder? Glad to see the rain Gods held out on Sunday. Should be a good champs next weekend, can't wait. See you there

yea he is my room mate he is doing ok shuolder is back on i think he is stoked with his result. But no major damage, i had to drive down and pick the little turd up but!!!!!
I still give him credit for draggin his bike across the line.

[Wayno]

Okay that makes sense mate. Putting inexperienced people last is a great way to do things. However, I'm puzzling as to this:
When I first raced on hardtail in round 4 I told everyone that I'd never ridden downhill before, let alone raced it. However, there were PLENTY of people behind me, many of whom were quite fast.
Was there a reason for this, or was it just a stuff up?


Oh and Figjam- thanks for a great race mate.

You registered before them on the day ie. you were there first

[arpit]

You registered before them on the day ie. you were there first

I don't understand mate. If people are put down in the order that they register, doesn't that contradict what Figjam was sayijg?

[Plow King]

I don't understand mate. If people are put down in the order that they register, doesn't that contradict what Figjam was sayijg?

Most of them hadn't ridden the ourimbah track before so they wern't graded hence why they were not slotted into an alloted starting position? I'm guessing

[arpit]

Digitalpimp was right after me. He has a full licence and has plenty of experience with Ourimbah.

[Wayno]

I don't understand mate. If people are put down in the order that they register, doesn't that contradict what Figjam was sayijg?

If you were unregistered you would be handwritten and so would the next unregistered person but the only other thing I can think of is if you were racing hardtail and maybe we didn't have enough numbers and another rider who is normally there wasn't so you got there number?

[mtbmamma]

this is just a thinking out loud thing, but how about a group for first timers so there not in any catagory, they can get a timed run and the'll get allocated into there respective grades for there next race meet? this will stop a lot of sandbagging and leave the graded race positions for those who deserve it?
it may be a bit of a pain to organise though?

I think that is a great idea. Put them last so that they, like me, don't get spooked by riders boring down behind them. That way it is fair for all, first timers and seasoned dh'ers.:)

[Squidly Didly]

I think that is a great idea. Put them last so that they, like me, don't get spooked by riders boring down behind them. That way it is fair for all, first timers and seasoned dh'ers.:)
Didn't you read FIGJAM's post Max :p
That was tried in the State series in 2005, it was called "novice", From my bad memory I think there were 2 entrants in the whole series.

[the F.H.B]

I dont think its a bad idea, I mean who cares if only 2 people go in that class. Its 2 more people that will have a fun, non intimidating time and hopefully be back for more.
I remember my first race and being in my 30's I was quite intimidated by the speed of all the young riders, really felt like I stood out. luckly masters were run pretty much last so I didn't have to many people coming down straight after.
Poor mtbmamma on the other hand was about 5th down the hill out of 150. I imagine she would have been alot happier if she knew faster riders weren,t starting only a minute or 2 behind her.

[Dazed&Confuzed]

This was only a club day. I am lead to believe that some of the riders thought they were competing in the World Championships.
We try to keep the start times a bit flexible (within reason) so if someone feels that they may be a bit slow they can ask for a bigger gap after them.
The problem with Sunday was that we had 146 riders and were trying to give them 2 timed runs. The gap between mtbmamma and the first of the hardtail riders was 2 minutes. The starters must have thought that this was adequate under the circumstances. On a "normal" club day the gap would have been longer.
We make a point of sending the women off first followed by the hardtails and then the juniors.
This way we get a bigger spectator crowd when the U19s and Elite do their final run.

[Dazed&Confuzed]

I don't understand mate. If people are put down in the order that they register, doesn't that contradict what Figjam was sayijg?
Hey Arpit
Next race day that you come to why don't you spend 1/2 an hour at rego and maybe you will have a better undersatanding of what happens.
Anyone else that has complaints about rego and timing can do the same thing.
Digitalpimp probably hadn't ridden in Hardtail at Ourimbah this year at the event you were talking about that is why he was after you.
Same as all the extra riders that we had at the race this weekend.
I have no idea who is going to show up for a race and if they have not been to a race before I have no idea how fast or slow they will be.

[arpit]

Hey Arpit
Next race day that you come to why don't you spend 1/2 an hour at rego and maybe you will have a better undersatanding of what happens.
Anyone else that has complaints about rego and timing can do the same thing.
Digitalpimp probably hadn't ridden in Hardtail at Ourimbah this year at the event you were talking about that is why he was after you.
Same as all the extra riders that we had at the race this weekend.
I have no idea who is going to show up for a race and if they have not been to a race before I have no idea how fast or slow they will be.


No need to get all defensive mate, I'm just asking. I think me hanging out in the rego tent will achieve very little, since I'm not immensely interested in the logistics of the race, merely mildly curious. I was led to believe that Digitalpimp rides hardtail every round. I think Wayno's explanation about limited numbers seems reasonable.

[Daver]

Theres nothing wrong with asking to go off last in your category if you're worried about being caught. I'm just struggling to beleive that Dylan (aka Deniss) got a 3:46:48... thats pretty quick for the guy.

[66RC]

It sux, i had some mechainical problems, chain kept on coming off, who won elite

[Mattydv]

Theres nothing wrong with asking to go off last in your category if you're worried about being caught.
Yeah that's what i ended up doing at Stromlo. My first race on the track, not extremely confident tackling it, Didn't do any harm and i did it a lot more comfortably (maybe not as fast however) knowing that i wouldn't have a local that knows the track like the back of their hand right on my back wheel going through the rock garden.