View Full Version : Is this what the world has come to?
gravelclimber
21-08-2006, 01:59 PM
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/news/news.html?in_article_id=401419&in_page_id=1770&ico=Homepage&icl=TabModule&icc=NEWS&ct=5
Mutiny as passengers refuse to fly until Asians are removed
Passengers refuse to allow holiday jet to take off until two Asian men are thrown off plane
The extraordinary scenes happened after some of the 150 passengers on a Malaga-Manchester flight overheard two men of Asian appearance apparently talking Arabic.
The trouble in Malaga flared last Wednesday as two British citizens in their 20s waited in the departure lounge to board the pre-dawn flight and were heard talking what passengers took to be Arabic. Worries spread after a female passenger said she had heard something that alarmed her.
Passengers noticed that, despite the heat, the pair were wearing leather jackets and thick jumpers and were regularly checking their watches.
Initially, six passengers refused to board the flight. On board the aircraft, word reached one family. To the astonishment of cabin crew, they stood up and walked off, followed quickly by others.
The Monarch pilot - a highly experienced captain - accompanied by armed Civil Guard police and airport security staff, approached the two men and took their passports.
Half an hour later, police returned and escorted the two Asian passengers off the jet.
This is absolute bullshit. How long before the same thing happens here?
They should have just done the security checks and left all the passengers behind.
Dozer
21-08-2006, 02:17 PM
Hmmmm, this was always going to happen.
I agree with some of the passengers not wanting to be near anyone who looked suss. I'd be happy to find out later that after the people had been removed that they were carrying something with intent to harm, you'd know that the general public wasn't being over the top.
If they weren't doing anything wrong then you could also agree with the people on the flight who thought they looked like they were up to no good.
I dare say there is going to be alot of this type of thing happen whenever someone gets on a plane in the middle of summer with a big thick winter coat on.
Racial abuse maybe? Or people misjudging purely because of the way the alleged offenders were dressed?
johnny
21-08-2006, 03:24 PM
I am so over the world right now.
I am so over the world right now.
Perhaps you would be interested in being an islamic fundamentalist?
gravelclimber
21-08-2006, 03:38 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by johnny
I am so over the world right now.
Perhaps you would be interested in being an islamic fundamentalist?
:D :D :D :D :D :D
Pete J
21-08-2006, 03:40 PM
I am so over the world right now.
Move to Scandanavia and you can almost forget that there is an outside world! :p
tonas
21-08-2006, 03:44 PM
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/news/news.html?in_article_id=401419&in_page_id=1770&ico=Homepage&icl=TabModule&icc=NEWS&ct=5
They should have just done the security checks and left all the passengers behind.
Agreed.
Andy.
Move to Scandanavia and you can almost forget that there is an outside world! :p
eh, you can do that here, we're pretty isolated. Just turn the media off, move to the country and sell your car.
Vicious_Fishes
21-08-2006, 03:59 PM
oh it's just the media making something out of nothing, terrorism pfffffft
i think the general public is WAY too scared/concerned/etc than it needs to be,
as Dan Brown said, the media is the right arm of anarchy...
yeah, run the security check & if people refused to get on the plane, their problem, their fault for being such idiots...
oh it's just the media making something out of nothing, terrorism pfffffft
i think the general public is WAY too scared/concerned/etc than it needs to be,
as Dan Brown said, the media is the right arm of anarchy...
yeah, run the security check & if people refused to get on the plane, their problem, their fault for being such idiots...
I don't think in this instance the media are making something out of nothing, if what they reported is true then it's just a factual account of PEOPLE making something out of nothing. I agree the public is way too scared. And the media play a big part in that. I also agree they should have run a security check and then just the guys on the plane no matter what other people said. Although that could pose a secondary issue of causing a disturbance or conflict during the flight because the people would still feel threatened and might initiate something against the (omgwtf) asians. This would be the fault of the people on the plane, not the asians, and so they should be the ones refused boarding if they looked like they were gonna cause a disturbance.
NCR600
21-08-2006, 04:41 PM
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/news/news.html?in_article_id=401419&in_page_id=1770&ico=Homepage&icl=TabModule&icc=NEWS&ct=5
This is absolute bullshit. How long before the same thing happens here?
They should have just done the security checks and left all the passengers behind.
I'm surprised it hasn't happened sooner.
Shortly after 11/9 (can't recall anything happening on the 9th of November) I saw a bunch of construction workers (about 7) hurling bottles etc at a Muslim Cleric in Surry Hills. That seems to be the attitude of the general public, because I didn't get much sympathy from the lunchtime crowd when I told them to pull their heads in.
And why am I not surprised that the incident occurred on a Manchester bound flight?
Ruckus_Lord
21-08-2006, 05:10 PM
Ok, i don't want to sound like a complete prick here, but if i where in that position i would be pritty worried to.
We have all heard the bad press about Arabs havn't we? We get the informaton shoved into our heads that they're ones orginising most/all of this terrorism and whatnot, and after what has happened in the past 6 odd years and the recent scare with those 23 or something planes it's definantly enough to cause suspision towards someone that does appear to be, well, 'out of the ordinary'.
By no means am i saying that we should suspect all Arabs as terrorists, but you can't blame anyone for taking precautions about who is boarding flights, i mean, they could have stopped a potential terrorist attack...?
Just my view, by no means is it correct, if you feel the need to burn me for it, try to turn the incineration down a notch....;)
Ok, i don't want to sound like a complete prick here, but if i where in that position i would be pritty worried to.
We have all heard the bad press about Arabs havn't we? We get the informaton shoved into our heads that they're ones orginising most/all of this terrorism and whatnot, and after what has happened in the past 6 odd years and the recent scare with those 23 or something planes it's definantly enough to cause suspision towards someone that does appear to be, well, 'out of the ordinary'.
By no means am i saying that we should suspect all Arabs as terrorists, but you can't blame anyone for taking precautions about who is boarding flights, i mean, they could have stopped a potential terrorist attack...?
Just my view, by no means is it correct, if you feel the need to burn me for it, try to turn the incineration down a notch....;)
What're you gonna do? Ban 1/5th of the world from flying? Sounds like you need a slight reality check, just because people are different from you, doesn't mean they're "out of the ordinary". (trust me that was a blue flame)
edit- and if you start judging people by things like their appearance, you can include a hell of a lot more people than the world's 1.4 billion muslims. It said the plane was from Malaga, which is in Spain. Alot of spanish people look 'omgterraryst!'. Plus they get cold alot easier than people from manchester.
gravelclimber
21-08-2006, 05:28 PM
Ok, i don't want to sound like a complete prick here, but if i where in that position i would be pritty worried to.
We have all heard the bad press about Arabs havn't we? We get the informaton shoved into our heads that they're ones orginising most/all of this terrorism and whatnot, and after what has happened in the past 6 odd years and the recent scare with those 23 or something planes it's definantly enough to cause suspision towards someone that does appear to be, well, 'out of the ordinary'.
By no means am i saying that we should suspect all Arabs as terrorists, but you can't blame anyone for taking precautions about who is boarding flights, i mean, they could have stopped a potential terrorist attack...?
Just my view, by no means is it correct, if you feel the need to burn me for it, try to turn the incineration down a notch....
There's nothing wrong with keeping an eye on other passengers it they are acting out of the ordinary. But checking your watch and wearing warm clothes? I wear warm clothes on planes 'cause they're usually too cold and I certainly get impatient while waiting and look at the time. What it really came down was that they weren't white and they spoke another language. When people were getting all shitty the airline should have just said: "They've been checked. They cleared security. They're flying. If you don't want to fly with them then don't fly".
Ruckus_Lord
21-08-2006, 05:40 PM
What're you gonna do? Ban 1/5th of the world from flying? Sounds like you need a slight reality check, just because people are different from you, doesn't mean they're "out of the ordinary". (trust me that was a blue flame)
No, i never said i wanted to take action against Arabs flying aboard planes, there's nothing i can do about it, we're just going to have to live with these fears, and to these people obviously they where out of the ordinary, they wouldn't have acted otherwise, would they?!; Just think about the situation these passengers might have been in, i'd say a fair few of them would be boarding the plane with a bit of fear about flying due to the recent terrorist scares, then to have someone who to these people, looks like the steriotype 'terrorist' they're shown on the TV would further increase this fear, and when it comes down to what you're head tells you could be a threat, you will re-act to it right? Now, this may not apply to you, but it obviously did to these people.
Bottom line is, the passengers felt uncomfortable with these people, and even though these 'suspisious' Arabic people probably hadn't done anything wrong and would have been checked before they boarded their flight, explosives can be hidden as so many things these days, take the attempted plane bombings not so long ago for example, the explosives just looked like milk? I mean, there's a very slim chance they'll get pulled up for that, and i'm this would cross some peoples minds, just to bring further suspision...
As your thread title states. 'Is this what the world has come to?', Well i'm afraid, yes it has...If the groups of these people choose to use 'Terrorism' to bring appon terror, then they're affecting their entire race, as a percentage of people will be frightened by this, leading to racial discrimination......
Please, don't get me wrong, this is not what i would do in this situation, i know their reaction might have been a bit harsh, but you have to consider their position, and the modern world.
Weasel
21-08-2006, 05:59 PM
Hehe this is just an example of terrorisim working like it should...
You commit one major action against a group of people and then let the press and peoples fears fuel the fire untill its out of control...
And then the government steps in and bends peoples fears to suit their own agendas...
olly1oo6
21-08-2006, 06:02 PM
Ok, i don't want to sound like a complete prick here, but if i where in that position i would be pritty worried to.
Yeah actually, I agree with that. I am also surprised it hasn't happened sooner. If it was a canadian that was speaking fast arabic, wearing bulky clothing and checking their watches, (as stated in the article) I wonder if the outcome would have been the same?
The situation would have been serious enough to arouse suspicion, that one can be sure of. If more than one person did notice it, then the characters in question would undoubtedly have been behaving in some sort of suspicious behaviour.
I think its dumb to assume that they were kicked off for "being asian". Its just the way the newspapers put their spin on it.
"It also raised fears that more travellers will take the law into their own hands - effectively conducting their own 'passenger profiles'."
I bet the travellers would have a better idea of what they call "passenger profiles", than a newspaper report. When ones own mortality is at stake, people tend to not take chances.
Its simple, nowadays you just "can't say bomb on an airplane" acting suspiciously will deservedly land you in hot water.
robmundall
21-08-2006, 06:07 PM
I am going to swim against the tide here but,
I too would be a little suspicious and scared. Two men talking Arabic, wearing leather jackets and thick jumpers in warm weather and regularly checking there watches, That fits the terriost profile that the media and events have planted in peoples head's (including mine obviously). Especially with recent foiled terriost attack, people are going to be a bit more edgy.
Dont worry about the arabs. You dont need to fly. Just buy yourself a row boat, its far cheaper than air fares, better scenery and you dont have to sit next to sum fat bastard farting on your leg all they. (that worrys me more than the bloke with a box cutter and 5.2kgs of tnt as hand luggage)
tassiehardtail
21-08-2006, 06:41 PM
Well i reckon that I would have done what the passengers did and gotten the hell off. I think it is better to be cautious (even if it does mean seeming racist) and saving my life (selfish as it may be) than not caring and ending up in the smashed fuselage of a Boeing.
Just my thoughts though.
Vicious_Fishes
21-08-2006, 06:58 PM
I don't think in this instance the media are making something out of nothing, if what they reported is true then it's just a factual account of PEOPLE making something out of nothing. I agree the public is way too scared. And the media play a big part in that. I also agree they should have run a security check and then just the guys on the plane no matter what other people said. Although that could pose a secondary issue of causing a disturbance or conflict during the flight because the people would still feel threatened and might initiate something against the (omgwtf) asians. This would be the fault of the people on the plane, not the asians, and so they should be the ones refused boarding if they looked like they were gonna cause a disturbance.
What i'm getting at is the media is the driving force behind the 99.99999999...% bullshit.
The purpose of these acts, purely & simply - is to install terror, and the media has been like a multiplyer for the effect of all these attacks...
It's also part of the airline covering their asses - Imagine if Qantas, even after having these people detected by it's PASSENGERS, LET them onto a plane full of people & they did happen to blow it up or whatever...
It would also simply be an image thing - potential terrorists let onto a plane of passengers ? Qantas obviously doesn't take the massive terrorism threat seriously, & therefore isn't safe to fly with :rolleyes:
Not that it would have happened, but it's the feck all possibility being multiplied by the media again...
FR Drew
21-08-2006, 07:19 PM
Within about a week of the second round of bombings in London my wife and I were there due to work. We went to Harrods on Sunday to check things out and like many other folks were there till closing time.
At that point, we and all the other lemmings piled into the nearest tube station to catch the connecting train back to London.
Sitting at the end of our carriage was a guy who I'd have to say was "of middle eastern appearance" and next to him were two full size suitcases.
The first thing that popped into my head was "If those cases have a bomb in them, we are just so amazingly screwed..."
As has been said further up the thread, terrorism works so well because for weeks, months years afterwards, people are putting time and energy itno running away from their own shadows, even when there's no threat at all.
Yes, September 11 was a terrible event with a massive loss of life, yes, losing the towers was a massive cost in a property/real estate sense (not to mention 4 jumbo jets full of passengers) but that one act has cost an immeasurable amount more to the US and western economy in the way that it has sucked resources, reduced efficiency, bred fear.
Try flying into the states these days and see how long immigration takes, how everybody has to have their eye/fingerprint scans, how much longer visas take to process.
If ever a terrorist act could be considered a monumental success that bled a country, September 11 was it. Who ever the mastermind was, they couldn't have dreamed of a better outcome. And at the end of the day, as a result, people racially profile their fellow citizens, becoming more bigoted, vilifying the innocent and breeding hate in thier fellow citizens who just happen to be from the middle east, thereby adding more recruits to the ranks of the terrorist organisations.
If you're a terrorist bent on world chaos and hatred of the western way, how much better does it get?
What i'm getting at is the media is the driving force behind the 99.99999999...% bullshit.
The purpose of these acts, purely & simply - is to install terror, and the media has been like a multiplyer for the effect of all these attacks...
It's also part of the airline covering their asses - Imagine if Qantas, even after having these people detected by it's PASSENGERS, LET them onto a plane full of people & they did happen to blow it up or whatever...
It would also simply be an image thing - potential terrorists let onto a plane of passengers ? Qantas obviously doesn't take the massive terrorism threat seriously, & therefore isn't safe to fly with :rolleyes:
Not that it would have happened, but it's the feck all possibility being multiplied by the media again...
Ok yeah I think I agree with you: media fuels public panic over the terrorist threat. In your first post I thought you were saying this particular article was a beat up, which it isn't, just a factual account.
NCR600
21-08-2006, 07:29 PM
Yes, 9/11 was a terrible event
9/11 was it.
Sorry, what happened on the ninth of November again?
Seriously I'm more worried about the engines dropping off the plane due to outsourcing of labour and cost cutting so the airlines can maintain the already ludicrously large profits.
Maybe this whole thing is a blessing in disguise. Perhaps it will scare people out of wedging their fat impatient arses into airline seats for budget overseas and interstate holidays, and back into their cars, distributing their tourist dollars back into the dying domestic holiday towns and enroute stopovers.
Since when did spending 23 hours in an airborne sardine tin become a way to start a holiday anyway?
FR Drew
21-08-2006, 07:31 PM
Just going by the way it's most regularly reported in the media. Apologies, i'll go back and re-edit to say September 11...
Within about a week of the second round of bombings in London my wife and I were there due to work. We went to Harrods on Sunday to check things out and like many other folks were there till closing time.
At that point, we and all the other lemmings piled into the nearest tube station to catch the connecting train back to London.
Sitting at the end of our carriage was a guy who I'd have to say was "of middle eastern appearance" and next to him were two full size suitcases.
The first thing that popped into my head was "If those cases have a bomb in them, we are just so amazingly screwed..."
As has been said further up the thread, terrorism works so well because for weeks, months years afterwards, people are putting time and energy itno running away from their own shadows, even when there's no threat at all.
Yes, 9/11 was a terrible event with a massive loss of life, yes, losing the towers was a massive cost in a property/real estate sense (not to mention 4 jumbo jets full of passengers) but that one act has cost an immeasurable amount more to the US and western economy in the way that it has sucked resources, reduced efficiency, bred fear.
Try flying into the states these days and see how long immigration takes, how everybody has to have their eye/fingerprint scans, how much longer visas take to process.
If ever a terrorist act could be considered a monumental success that bled a country, 9/11 was it. Who ever the mastermind was, they couldn't have dreamed of a better outcome. And at the end of the day, as a result, people racially profile their fellow citizens, becoming more bigoted, vilifying the innocent and breeding hate in thier fellow citizens who just happen to be from the middle east, thereby adding more recruits to the ranks of the terrorist organisations.
If you're a terrorist bent on world chaos and hatred of the western way, how much better does it get?
*golf clap*
The anecdote I highlighted is especially relevant I think, because it illustrates how the idea of terrorism is that it is an attack on people's minds. By definition the idea is to make people more fearful, and not only does it achieve this, in doing so it always causes people to have this shit on their minds all the time. So people are always on edge, thinking about where the next terror attack might be, or how easily the train they are on could be blown up (like you were). Day to day stuff like that, which means that this shit really infests peoples minds and makes such a huge impact by just being in people's thoughts all the time and changing the way they think.
SO the way to DEFEAT terrorism is, unless you are an ASIO agent, forget about it!
No, i never said i wanted to take action against Arabs flying aboard planes, there's nothing i can do about it, we're just going to have to live with these fears, and to these people obviously they where out of the ordinary, they wouldn't have acted otherwise, would they?!; Just think about the situation these passengers might have been in, i'd say a fair few of them would be boarding the plane with a bit of fear about flying due to the recent terrorist scares, then to have someone who to these people, looks like the steriotype 'terrorist' they're shown on the TV would further increase this fear, and when it comes down to what you're head tells you could be a threat, you will re-act to it right? Now, this may not apply to you, but it obviously did to these people.
Bottom line is, the passengers felt uncomfortable with these people, and even though these 'suspisious' Arabic people probably hadn't done anything wrong and would have been checked before they boarded their flight, explosives can be hidden as so many things these days, take the attempted plane bombings not so long ago for example, the explosives just looked like milk? I mean, there's a very slim chance they'll get pulled up for that, and i'm this would cross some peoples minds, just to bring further suspision...
As your thread title states. 'Is this what the world has come to?', Well i'm afraid, yes it has...If the groups of these people choose to use 'Terrorism' to bring appon terror, then they're affecting their entire race, as a percentage of people will be frightened by this, leading to racial discrimination......
Please, don't get me wrong, this is not what i would do in this situation, i know their reaction might have been a bit harsh, but you have to consider their position, and the modern world.
So you're saying you wouldn't have acted like them, but you understand their position? Well if you wouldn't have acted like them, then I didn't understqand your position properly. I guess I can understand their position as well, but it doesn't mean I think it's justified or OK. I can understand that their pregidous and illogical fear may have been bred by media hyper and the recent foiled UK attacks, but it's still pregidous and it's still illogical fear of people of a certain background. Which is not okay.
This may be what the world has come to, but if it has, then as johnny said, I'm so over this world right now. Just because it's what the world has come to doesn't mean it's ok.
nizai
21-08-2006, 08:08 PM
I am so over the world right now.
Amen Brother.
lupine128
21-08-2006, 08:10 PM
one of my best freinds was in the tower complex when the planes hit on sept/11.
she is an ex marine corp medic and the first thing she did was run down to the car park and grab her feild kit (she also worked/works as a volunteer paramedic in NYC). she was doing triage in the plaza when the first tower came down.
she also lost a lot of close freinds in both FDNY, and in other companies in the complex when the whole thing happened.
i would say that if anyone had a good reason, or even a right, to be angry, and suspitious of anyone else, she was it.
know what she did?
she joined mediciene sans frontiere as a paramedic because she didn't believe that what happened in afganistan after the towers was right. she spent 2 years in appaling conditions, working her ass off to help people. her medics station was raided by the us army, she was arrested and held ofr almost 2 months without either a trial, or legal representation. and the official charge when it was finally laid was "giving aid and comfort to the enemy". this was a multinational group of medics, helping refugees. in an area that the UN specifically told the US not to invade. in an illegal war. the charges were eventualy dropped, and when she returned to the states, it was to find that she wasn't able to return to her job because she was now listed by homeland security as a security risk.
be that as it may, crash still travels, and flies, and speaks to anyone, without any prejudice. as do i. and the reason?
because we know that we have as much to fear from christian fundamentalists as we do from muslim.
we know that racial profiling is only a way to disciminate against a group of people, not a way to find criminals.
and we know that if you act like you are afraid, you have lost.
!!!!!!!!!!!!
:mad: :mad: :mad: :mad:
That story makes me SO fucking mad! The US government is fucking dispicable. And why the FUCK are stories like that not plastered all over the fucking dipshit media? Fuck people and their attitudes today. I'm so over this world right now.
kona_kona
21-08-2006, 09:03 PM
Get over it. It was bound to happen.
Infact I am surprised it hasn't happened earlier.
floody
22-08-2006, 08:16 AM
Surely the police would have to have some sort of reasonable suspicion to escort them off the Jet (though quite possibly not, perhaps they have bullshit reactionist laws like us)? Story seems like a patchwork....I'm not judging either way.
W2ttsy
22-08-2006, 09:18 AM
since the police apparently seized their passports and then came back for the "terrorists" it seems that either
1) they cokced up the story
2) the police are stupid
if you feel the need to confiscate a passport, i doubt you'd just leave the passenger there on the plane while you did a check.
sounds like horseshit to me. looks like the police needed to raise the perception that they "were actively fighting terrorism" by pretending to do some cop work.
"yes these people are dangerous, you are safe now the police are here". probably kept them in holding and then stuck them on a new flight later after the panic died down.
i hope they find nothing simply to highlight the stupidity of british people!
W2ttsy
PINT of Stella, mate!
23-08-2006, 10:51 AM
Personally I tend to take anything that is reported in The Daily Mail with a pinch of salt. It's the paper that low rent tabloids such as Sydney's Telegraph and Melbournes Herald Sun model themselves on.
Having said that though, Monarch air are a charter airline that specialise in cheap flights for chavs (or budget breaks for bogans if you need an aussie translation) so I can just imagine the state of 90% of the passengers -think about every horrible misconception about english football hooligans and characters like Vicky Pollard from Little Britain and you'd be very close to the mark - Not to mention they were on their way home from a sunburn and sangria fuelled holiday in the Costa Del Sol so half were more than likely shit-faced and willing to form an angry mob at the drop of a hat. We're quite good at that in the UK, a couple of years ago an angry mob fuelled on Daily Mail scare stories about paedophiles mistakenly trashed the office of a local Paediatrician in Southampton!
I think the police and the airline probably did what they saw as the sensible thing and offered the two arabs free flights with BA or KLM rather than have to control 150 pissed up and pissed off bogans.
Seriously though, would anyone care if they blew up the flight?
PINT of Stella, mate!
23-08-2006, 10:53 AM
i hope they find nothing simply to highlight the stupidity of british people!
W2ttsy
Dude,
You're from tassie...
:cool:
muzza167
23-08-2006, 11:01 AM
Dude,
You're from tassie...
:cool:
Yeah so... Im From tassie.
I have stitches on my shoulder where they removed my other head :p
gravelclimber
23-08-2006, 11:51 AM
Personally I tend to take anything that is reported in The Daily Mail with a pinch of salt. It's the paper that low rent tabloids such as Sydney's Telegraph and Melbournes Herald Sun model themselves on.
http://news.independent.co.uk/uk/transport/article1220492.ece
http://www.guardian.co.uk/terrorism/story/0,,1854721,00.html
http://www.csmonitor.com/2006/0821/dailyUpdate.html
Binaural
27-08-2006, 11:24 AM
More airport idiocy: man forced to remove shirt with arabic script before boarding a plane (linky (http://www.democracynow.org/article.pl?sid=06/08/21/1348224#transcript)).
leitch
27-08-2006, 01:28 PM
More airport idiocy: man forced to remove shirt with arabic script before boarding a plane (linky (http://www.democracynow.org/article.pl?sid=06/08/21/1348224#transcript)).
thats such bullshit... the world is so f*cking paranoid and prejudiced now it is rediculous...
there was a similar story from San Francisco last week, with a Canadian doctor called Ahmed Farooq, who was prevented to complete his airplane, because he was praying in his seat.
racial bullshit, religious bullshit, its just bullshit
gah im too pissed off by that to make any coherent argument, i will write more when i have calmed down
from binaural's link:
On a trip back from the Middle East, Iraqi blogger and activist Raed Jarrar was not allowed to board a flight at JFK airport because he was wearing a T-Shirt that said "We will not be silent" in English and Arabic. Airport security forced him to change his T-Shirt saying wearing it was like "going to a bank with a T-Shirt reading 'I am a robber.'"
I don't care whether you feel passionate about something and I don't care whether we see eye to ey on issues such as this. Use language like that agian and you will be banned for a decent period of time.
johnny.
W2ttsy
28-08-2006, 10:53 AM
Dude,
You're from tassie...
:cool:
i just live here. im originally from melbourne. and i wasnt having a go at british people, but i reckon that some good old fashion public humiliation (been made to feel stupid) is in order so that people can understand how stupid all this paranoir is.
also had the event happened in the US, then it would have been stupid americans, had it happened in belgium, then stupid belgians, etc.
W2ttsy
PINT of Stella, mate!
28-08-2006, 11:03 AM
... had it happened in belgium, then stupid belgians...
W2ttsy
So now you're having a go at those lovely people who make Stella?
There's no pleasing some people...
;)
Arete
28-08-2006, 11:49 AM
Wear a jumper on a plane, even in summer - check
Check my watch incessantly when waiting to board a plane - check
Speak my native language when I'm in a different country - check.
OMG I'm a terrorist!
it's sad it's come to that, but I'm not suprised.
On a side note, I'm sure most people here know it already, but it might be worth mentioning that the term "asian" is used slightly differently in the UK than here - it inculdes people of indian/pakistani appearance as well. :)
PINT of Stella, mate!
28-08-2006, 11:55 AM
Wear a jumper on a plane, even in summer - check
Check my watch incessantly when waiting to board a plane - check
Speak my native language when I'm in a different country - check.
OMG I'm a terrorist!
it's sad it's come to that, but I'm not suprised.
On a side note, I'm sure most people here know it already, but it might be worth mentioning that the term "asian" is used slightly differently in the UK than here - it inculdes people of indian/pakistani appearance as well. :)
Heh, heh. I've still got an old dangerfield T-shirt that has Terrorist emblazoned on the front. Have never been brave enough to try it out on airport security though. The looks I get from security at the mall is bad enough...
Also in the UK the term 'Asian' usually applys solely to Indian's, Pakistani's and Bangladeshiis in the same way everyone over here automatially thinks of Chinese and Vietnamese. It's a pet hate of mine as Asia's a pretty big f***ing place!
Anyhoo, that's my laundry done so it's time to stop post whoring and head out for a ride...
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