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GrubNut
22-08-2006, 10:36 AM
I'm now using a voip service instead of my landline and my phone bill has gone from about $70 per month to <$30. I bought some hardware that I just plug my ordinary phone into and dial away. The only difference is that I have to dial the area code before every phone number, even if its next door. Call quality is somewhere between landline and mobile quality.

I make untimed national calls to landlines at 9.9c each, mobiles for 27c per minute, and cheap international calls (3c per minute to US). I think I may be able to get the mobiles down to 19c per minute by using a different voip service provider.

Anyway if anyone else is interested here's what I did:

1. Signed up with a broadband internet account

I chose internode as my ISP.
Plan is ADSL: HOME-512-Starter for AU$39.95 512K/128K, 8GIG traffic shaped
This seemed to be a good ADSL 1 price.

2. Signed with a voip (sip) service provider

I chose www.sipme.com.au, as they seemed to be well regarded by the geeks on whirlpool and had good rates. Sipme also let you sign up with other providers so you can use 1 for landlines, another for mobiles etc. There are many to choose from, but sipme is working for me. I just put $10 worth of prepaid calls on it, and it lasts for ages.

A point worthy of note is that I have heard that some people have gone with isp's that also provide a voip service however the proviso was that they took over the line. The disadvantage of this is they are now paying the AU$33.95 rather than the home line budget of AU$20 INET is an example of an ISP that is doing this. They would not allow me onto their voip service without taking over my existing line.

PS If you have cable then you don't have to worry about line rental at all. ($60 cable = $40 ADSL +$20 line rental anyway).

My recommendation is to separate your ISP and VSP to avoid this.

3. Bought the necessary hardware.

I purchased the billion 7404vgp router, wifi access point, 4 port 10/100 switch, 1 port FX0 2 port FXS - so it does wifi, ethernet and voip all in one box. I just plug my ordinary phone into it. There was a bit of messing around with configuation (I had static on my landline to begin with), but the whirlpool forum geeks sorted me out. AU$225 at msy computer parts.

If you already have a modem/router you can just get an ATA (analogue telephone adapter) and plug it into your router. The sipura 3000 seems to be well regarded.

4. Call telstra and reduce my line rental from $29 to $20 with the home line budget. This meant local calls would go from 25 cents to 30 but of course I make no calls a I use the sip provider.

I have plugged my cordless phone into port 1 (FXS port) of my billion and I am off and running.

5. Dump all of your tel$tra shares :D

6. Pass it on.

danv
22-08-2006, 10:57 AM
I'm now using a voip service instead of my landline

5. Dump all of your tel$tra shares :D

6. Pass it on.

Sooooo true. Telstra is going down bigtime from all fronts.

and1
22-08-2006, 01:03 PM
5. Dump all of your tel$tra shares :D

6. Pass it on.

I dumped mine last week. I wanted to dump them ages ago when they were oh so much higher, but didn't under advice that "they would go up! just hang in there!" I now want to kick this person in the nuts.

nizai
22-08-2006, 01:26 PM
Wow i didnt even know you could reduce your line rental if it was only being used to data. Im gonna look into that one.

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---Matt---
22-08-2006, 01:33 PM
Here's a question for ya...

If you're using VOIP and data Internet on the same ADSL account and you go over your 8gb limit and get shaped... what happens to the VOIP? Do you get lag/dropouts? Does the VOIP work at all?

---Matt---

arpit
22-08-2006, 02:18 PM
Here's a question for ya...

If you're using VOIP and data Internet on the same ADSL account and you go over your 8gb limit and get shaped... what happens to the VOIP? Do you get lag/dropouts? Does the VOIP work at all?

---Matt---

As I understand it, the quality decreases. It's never happened to me. I run the VoIP thingey on the cable internet connection with a 20 gig cap. If we exceed that, we just get charged extra.

W2ttsy
22-08-2006, 02:59 PM
As I understand it, the quality decreases. It's never happened to me. I run the VoIP thingey on the cable internet connection with a 20 gig cap. If we exceed that, we just get charged extra.

the question is: does the VOIP contribute to the cap or is it all unmetered?

if its unmetered ill switch everything to VOIP and piss off phone bills for ever.

W2ttsy

arpit
22-08-2006, 03:16 PM
the question is: does the VOIP contribute to the cap or is it all unmetered?


Ask your ISP. I'm on telstra bigpond cable internet, and I'm pretty sure it goes towards my cap.

Something I've experienced is that my VoIP thing isn't as reliable as a landline. Make sure you have a mobile phone for emergency calls.

GrubNut
22-08-2006, 05:44 PM
Here's a question for ya...

If you're using VOIP and data Internet on the same ADSL account and you go over your 8gb limit and get shaped... what happens to the VOIP? Do you get lag/dropouts? Does the VOIP work at all?

---Matt---

I don't know from experience, but it I think it still works with dial up speeds, but I understand the quaility is reduced. Broadband is recommended. Voip uses 10-20 Megabytes per hour during typical calls according to the internode site. So 50-100 hours of talk time per Gig.

Voip usage counts towards your download limit on all the plans I know and definitely if you use a different VSP to ISP.