Girls Section Suggestion

[Mandy]

Hey,
Ive seen you all talking about getting more girls into the sport so i though id mention about another forum i am on "utez" and they have a forum section dedicated to girls. Maybe us girls should get our own section to?? ;) :p

[kerbdrop]

Ridemonkey, MTBR, NSMB all have really good women forums... when i was trying to find out more about WSD and female seats for my partner, gold!

My partner is sort of slowly warming to mtb, but if she knew of other girls out there who ride, and if she could talk to you'se, i think she'd really find her comfy corner in the MTB scene.

One thing though it would be best to have the section modded by women as well, so that it is steered and directed towards discussions relevant to women riders.

Also, a warning that it is NOT an online dating forum wouldn't go amiss ;)

[toodles]

Another forum I'm on has a women's only section that can't be accessed by everybody. Something like that might be a better idea on here.

[Dozer]

I think that is a really good idea. If a few more threads were started where women riders could contribute then farkin.net would have another valueable asset. Great suggestion.:D

[scblack]

Another forum I'm on has a women's only section that can't be accessed by everybody. Something like that might be a better idea on here.

As long as I have access, thats a great idea.:D

Edit - I do think that is a VERY good idea - a few threads/posts on here have been by young guys with very little tact or idea. Keeping that element out would make the females feel much more welcome/secure.

[kerbdrop]

Good idea, depends wether your hot or not....

But I think it would be cool, except that most of the girls would be better than me....

Maybe farkin isn't quite ready for a women's forum..

[projectsplat]

Maybe farkin isn't quite ready for a women's forum..

or maybe the likes of konda*stinky just need a good slap upside the head.

[Registered Nutcase]

im all for that idea!

it would be awsome for women to have their own section so that dickheads like kona*stinky and every 12 year old cant access it and destroy it like so many other threads/fourms.

a few quick Q for the mods.
when we signed up did we say what sex we were?
would you have to apply for it like trading?
would you make one that is privet like the mods section. and one that is generally so us guys can get advice from the female point of view?

blake

[johnny]

Maybe farkin isn't quite ready for a women's forum..Good example of why it should be a women ONLY section.

Kona*Stinky, you're an idiot.

[Mandy]

The forum i was referring to the boys can go in there too, which may be okay for a start. I suggested it as i wouldnt mind going out on the trials with other girls.
even if it was private with only male mods allowed in? But yeah i think if you tried either private or public and it was popular it would be great to have both

[Registered Nutcase]

The forum i was referring to the boys can go in there too, which may be okay for a start. I suggested it as i wouldnt mind going out on the trials with other girls.
even if it was private with only male mods allowed in? But yeah i think if you tried either private or public and it was popular it would be great to have both

i agree with you. i just cant stand all the little dickheads that constant annoy the girls on this fourm. ffs just go onto a dating site!

that why it would be good to have a female only section that the kiddes cant get into

[Disturbed.Rider]

Come one, I was joking and I think it would be a great idea.
I also think it would be good to have a girls only forum.


I'm sorry if my joke came off the wrong way....

[alexb618]

i dont think farkin is ready for a womens only forum either

it is a good idea but i can see it becoming chaos because of all the kids on here...

[tu plang]

I think restricted access would be the way to go, i think theres definitely enough male members out there that know their stuff as well as being mature who could contribute (obviously in addition to the female contribution) to make it worth while. i think making it women only would be counterproductive, purely because there's a wealth of knowledge around this place.

[leitch]

i dont think farkin is ready for a womens only forum either
as stated above, i don't think it would be a problem if only female members could post in it. for a start, i doubt there would be much moderating needed, as it seems to be the stupid kids that create the majority of shit-fights etc on the general forums, anyway.

also, if it was set up so that only female members could post, but all members could read, then if a male member had constructive advice in response to whatever question was posed, they could easily just PM the member.

sounds like a good idea to me

i think making it women only would be counterproductive, purely because there's a wealth of knowledge around this place. read above..

[S.]

I think restricted access would be the way to go, i think theres definitely enough male members out there that know their stuff as well as being mature who could contribute (obviously in addition to the female contribution) to make it worth while. i think making it women only would be counterproductive, purely because there's a wealth of knowledge around this place.

Yeah, but on the other hand it's not like they're being imprisoned there... they can still post questions in the main forums if they feel the need.

[tu plang]

Yeah, but on the other hand it's not like they're being imprisoned there... they can still post questions in the main forums if they feel the need.

oh right, i guess i had this vision of a forum called "the kitchen" and that would be their little world :p

Well there goes any chance of me posting in any such a forum

[kerbdrop]

I was thinking it'd be a place to post women's MTB issues, but open for anyone to post.

as long as the poster has something relevant to post, post away.

BUT there should be clear guidelines set about behaviour that is reasonably expected of anyone using the forum.

Any irrelevant/offensive comments immediately deleted.

But i can see this being a real benefit to the farkin community by providing an avenue for mtb'ing girls out there to communicate in a non-threatening environment, not to be put off with derogatory comments

[G-Man]

Good example of why it should be a women ONLY section.

Kona*Stinky, you're an idiot.

Good call Johnny - agree totaly ..

Lucky Foxy didn't see this one as
she would have been hunting for him ..

Well deleted Squid-miester ..

Mtb Chicks Rock - I say give them a section of
there own as they would be less aprehencive ( sp )
to speak up and be heard on issues that they may be
interested in like - Girl specific questions like W/S saddles , women
specific rigs , sizes and parts and what not ..

Us nutter blokes dont alwais cover subject matter they
would be interested getting involved in - well i know
i go on with alot of c r a p any way - at least that's
what Foxy alwais tells me - gota love her ..

Catch yas

G-man outy

[Cave Dweller]

Im all for a womens section on here so they can discuss things, organise rides etc. My girl friend would love it, she would probably ride her bike more if she other females to ride with :D

*mini rant*

Im not really down with the idea of locking it so only women members to go in there. They have womens rooms like that at uni where men can't go, where is the mens room where no nagging women are allowed? I thought restricting access to anything based on sex or race was discrimination?

God dam it, i want my own forum on here where only people 25+ can go to escape the little STP groms on here!

It could have a password setup, be like the old adult only amstrad or commodore 64 games where you had to answer some obscure question that only older people would know :cool:

[cam-o]

God dam it, i want my own forum on here where only people 25+ can go to escape the little STP groms on here!

It could have a password setup, be like the old adult only amstrad or commodore 64 games where you had to answer some obscure question that only older people would know :cool:

That'd kick ass, but you don't need to use an obscure question as the groms would just google it. A better test would be to ask that the user write a sentence that passes a basic spell and grammar checker :)

(The Leisure Suit Larry questions were pretty easy to guess too)

[PyletSnviper]

great idea

having a section where women like foxy can help out all the girls getting into the sport would be great for them

its a bit unfair when the girls all have to race eachother to get enough numbers to have the race

it will be good when there can be races for each age group instead of just elite and sport women at state level.....and if having there own section of the forum means more numbers at races i think anyone disagreeing with the idea is just being selfish, or has some fear of being beaten by a girl

foxy is already beating me... by lots :o lol and probibly always will :rolleyes: so lets get more women into the sport so she has more people to race. because how would you like to never have anyone to race.... you would too get a bit bored and not enjoy it as much

[Grip]

We're doing a fair bit of discussion about this topic now and will let you all know of the outcome when it happens. Personally though I DO tend to think a women's only forum is acceptable because of the bullshit they have to put up with out in the wider zoo called Farkin. I've suggested to management that we have a PRIVATE forum where women get automatic access and male members have to apply stating why they want access etc. If anyone else can think of a good way to keep the groms at bay speak up now.:)

[Turner_rider]

Sounds like a good idea as it creates an area of focus not unsimilar to the different disciplines of cycling.

The only minor problem I can see is that there may be some technical difficulty in determining the actual sex of the typist if you are going to limit access. For this reason I think it would be better as an open forum - ok you'll get some early crap but in reality it will be not much different to the normal gay roadie/lazy DHr style banter, and the mods do a great job in weeding the unwanted stuff out.

[Mandy]

I think private is the best way to go for now :) Hope this goes ahead!!! Would love to meet other girls expecially this foxy i keep hearing about, being a beginer i would love to talk to a girl mtber who can beat the boys!!! haha :)

[leitch]

If anyone else can think of a good way to keep the groms at bay speak up now
if it was set up so that only female members could post, but all members could read, then if a male member had constructive advice in response to whatever question was posed, they could easily just PM the member.
.......................

[Cave Dweller]

(The Leisure Suit Larry questions were pretty easy to guess too)

Man, i could never get those questions, i only got to play it once when my dad left it on. And you only got three goes at the questions then you had to reload the game tapes.

Ahhhhhhh....... the memories of waiting 8 mintures for the tapes to load, back in the day. I remeber playing the decathalon games and getting arm craps from moving the joystick back and forth so fast :cool:

[NCR600]

I think having a women only forum is a bad idea, at least in the long run.

Whilst having an area safe from the idiots might attract women to the site, it does nothing to foster the long term acceptance of women in the general MTB community. The only way to have that happen is for women to be seen around the place actually riding bikes and contributing to the MTB community.

I'm a member of a few other heavily male dominated forums, all of them much less moderated and regulated than this one, some to the point that there is NO moderation, and all of them have a strong contingent of female members. Sure they get harrassed, but EVERYONE gets harrassed on those forums, and the women there can give as good as they get.

I'm all for integration, not segregation.

Perhaps a better idea would be a push to get more female membership of the site, and some female moderators? (forgive me if there already is female moderators)

Maybe someone could organise a file that prints out into a business card, which could be handed to any potential (female or male) Farkin members. I've seen the idea on another forum, and it worked quite well.

[PyletSnviper]

as a guy... if my mum or sister ever wanted to know something from the female perspective i could 'apply for access' as grip said to the female private area

and to keep the groms at bay grip... just make it a 'call this number and tell us your account name and we will give you access to the womens only area' .. .and when the person calls.. if its a female then they get access (so they get instant access).... if males want access they have to apply for it and have (like for trading area access) mods look into their posts... and also give a well written, correct grammar and everything paragraph as to why they want/need access to this area

i think if effort is needed to get into an area then 80% of the trouble makers wont bother... the other 20% can easily be removed if they cause trouble :)

a WOMEN ONLY area might be taking it a bit far..... but in all honesty.. why are you asking us guys this... ask the female members of farkin what they think! as its them who this affects

[StormFire]

They have womens rooms like that at uni where men can't go

have you actually seen the women that use those rooms ? if i ever went near that room I'd be well and truly scared of getting beaten up by a girl twice my size :eek:

actually ... it would probably be the same case if such a place were set up on farkin as well ...

... i'm weakling ... what else can i say

[tonas]

I think having a women only forum is a bad idea, at least in the long run.

Whilst having an area safe from the idiots might attract women to the site, it does nothing to foster the long term acceptance of women in the general MTB community. The only way to have that happen is for women to be seen around the place actually riding bikes and contributing to the MTB community.

I'm all for integration, not segregation.

My thoughts exactly.

Women contend with moronic males everyday, they are well accustomed to extinguishing spot fires. I fear that you maybe selling women short if you think they need to be protected from men by men. Note the irony. ;)

Andy.

[Mandy]

Its not about being away from the guys its about girls being able to talk to each other and organise rides..

[PyletSnviper]

Its not about being away from the guys its about girls being able to talk to each other and organise rides..


as i said before... its not about what us guys think.. its about what new female riders like mandy want...


so lets let the girls have their say :)

[TonyG]

My thoughts exactly.

Women contend with moronic males everyday, they are well accustomed to extinguishing spot fires. I fear that you maybe selling women short if you think they need to be protected from men by men. Note the irony. ;)

Andy.

Who are the men protecting them that you are referring to here? I thought it was a few of the girls requesting a female only forum to organise their rides and discuss riding?
If females want their own forum, they should be able to have it. If they dont want to use it, or they want the larger Farkin audience's opinion they can post in the rest of the site.

[kerbdrop]

as i said before... its not about what us guys think.. its about what new female riders like mandy want...


so lets let the girls have their say :)

Right on there mate.

[Nabdaddy]

sounds like a good idea to me. Why not give it a try and see how it goes?:p

[tonas]

Who are the men protecting them that you are referring to here?

Admins and mods.

If females want their own forum, they should be able to have it. If they dont want to use it, or they want the larger Farkin audience's opinion they can post in the rest of the site.

I agree, if that is the wish of the forums female members. But, as previously stated, I fail to see the point of having a female specific forum. Last time I checked gender classification was not a prerequisite for constructive and supportive cycling information.

Andy.

[PyletSnviper]

you dont get it.... it doesn't matter if you dont see the point.. the fact is that a female has dared to ask for a private forum for the women.. and it should be seriously considered by the admins and mods... not you or me... its for the females... so let them talk!

also it wont stop females mixing... it will just give them an area where they can discuss it with females only... then if they wish they can get a general opinion too they can ask it in the main forums

[hubbie]

just curious how we will know who is a girl and who isnt. with all the wierdos on farkin, surely some pretend to be girls in their spare time. know what i mean?

[Registered Nutcase]

I agree, if that is the wish of the forums female members. But, as previously stated, I fail to see the point of having a female specific forum.

Andy.
mate the biggest thing is to keep those annoying 12 year olds out. who will use it to try and pick up and basiclly its singling out woman. this is why i am all for a privet fourm to stop any annoyance from the kids.


Last time I checked gender classification was not a prerequisite for constructive and supportive cycling information.

Andy.

no its not and they are completly free to view and post in other fourms throughout farkin. your exactly right, however its no problem to you and its mostly going to be chic type questions that want a chic type resonce. if they do infact want a male/general question answered they can post in any other fourms

[PyletSnviper]

as i mentioned before... some thing as simple as call this number and say your account to get access........

[FR Drew]

You just need special filtering questions to get you access:

Is chartreuse or mauve closer to purple?

Which is more sheer: chiffon or tulle?

Pumps, mules and slides: compare and contrast...

Any girl will know the answers, and any guy who knows the answers probably isn't a threat...

[Mandy]

:eek: I dont know the answers!!!!!! Lol :rolleyes:

[PyletSnviper]

You just need special filtering questions to get you access:

Is chartreuse or mauve closer to purple?

Which is more sheer: chiffon or tulle?

Pumps, mules and slides: compare and contrast...

Any girl will know the answers, and any guy who knows the answers probably isn't a threat...

that is gold

see i dont know any of the answers... so it should keep out 90% of people..lol

[tu plang]

You just need special filtering questions to get you access:

Is chartreuse or mauve closer to purple?

Which is more sheer: chiffon or tulle?

Pumps, mules and slides: compare and contrast...

Any girl will know the answers, and any guy who knows the answers probably isn't a threat...

first two are easy, im going with mauve and chiffon. last one has me though.

[roxy12]

i agree with you. i just cant stand all the little dickheads that constant annoy the girls on this fourm. ffs just go onto a dating site!

that why it would be good to have a female only section that the kiddes cant get into

hahaha says he who added me to msn cause im a chick and I ride!

but hes right 132 msn contacts 100 odd 16 yo boys ive never met!

On the topic of a girls forum im all for it, soul riders has one, but having it on a site such as this which gets somany more visitis and views compared to something like soul riders would be fantasic. It will help advertise the whole "girls do ride" thing.

Even in magazines when discussing races and results we nearly always get missed out, at least here if an interested/curious chick came across the forum theyd see there are more of us, and the womes sections is growing in size and support every season!

[Registered Nutcase]

hahaha says he who added me to msn cause im a chick and I ride!

but hes right 132 msn contacts 100 odd 16 yo boys ive never met!

On the topic of a girls forum im all for it, soul riders has one, but having it on a site such as this which gets somany more visitis and views compared to something like soul riders would be fantasic. It will help advertise the whole "girls do ride" thing.

Even in magazines when discussing races and results we nearly always get missed out, at least here if an interested/curious chick came across the forum theyd see there are more of us, and the womes sections is growing in size and support every season!

yes that was so the reason:rolleyes:

[leitch]

no its not and they are completly free to view and post in other fourms throughout farkin. your exactly right, however its no problem to you and its mostly going to be chic type questions that want a chic type resonce. if they do infact want a male/general question answered they can post in any other fourms

i totally agree, and tonas, this is the point: (hope this doesnt sound vulgar)

if, for instance, a female member wants to enquire about what WS seat to get, because the one she currently has is causing pain where you dont want pain, im pretty sure she won't want to be posting it up and having 12 year old boys going "tee hee she has a sore vagina... maybe shes been going to hard :p tee hee" like little immature kids tend to do. THATS what the womens forum would be good for. and if, as a rule, males cannot post in it, then the likelihood of that happening is approximately zero.

[tonas]

i totally agree, and tonas, this is the point: (hope this doesnt sound vulgar)

if, for instance, a female member wants to enquire about what WS seat to get, because the one she currently has is causing pain where you dont want pain, im pretty sure she won't want to be posting it up and having 12 year old boys going "tee hee she has a sore vagina... maybe shes been going to hard :p tee hee" like little immature kids tend to do. THATS what the womens forum would be good for. and if, as a rule, males cannot post in it, then the likelihood of that happening is approximately zero.

Unfortunately, I think you'll find that immature and derogatory remarks are not confined to adolescent males. More importantly, any member inclined to make such remarks would not be of benefit to any component of Farkin forums irrespective of gender.

As far as I'm concerned this is not my battle, it is a decision for female members to contemplate. My gripe is with the reasoning for need of such a forum. All members, male, female and S. :p should feel comfortable to ask for advice on any subject free from moronic grandstanders.

Andy.

[johnny]

I think having a women only forum is a bad idea, at least in the long run.

Whilst having an area safe from the idiots might attract women to the site, it does nothing to foster the long term acceptance of women in the general MTB community. The only way to have that happen is for women to be seen around the place actually riding bikes and contributing to the MTB community.
As you said, long run. But we have to get some level of female participation higher than the say 20 out of 16,000 members to get that ball rolling first!

Im not really down with the idea of locking it so only women members to go in there. They have womens rooms like that at uni where men can't go, where is the mens room where no nagging women are allowed? I thought restricting access to anything based on sex or race was discrimination?When women have a fair crack at the whip or have equal access to opportunities such as guys have had since year dot, I reckon you'll have a point. But it has always been a man's world, if the ladies get a little bit of extra opportunity here nad there to restore some balance, I think it's a good thing.

[FR Drew]

You just need special filtering questions to get you access:

Is chartreuse or mauve closer to purple?

Which is more sheer: chiffon or tulle?

Pumps, mules and slides: compare and contrast...

Any girl will know the answers, and any guy who knows the answers probably isn't a threat...

first two are easy, im going with mauve and chiffon. last one has me though.

Hmm, for the tu plangs of the world it seems we need tougher filters...
(Knew I should have gone for chiffon and satin)

Oh well, keeps some of the males out. It's a start.

[leitch]

Unfortunately, I think you'll find that immature and derogatory remarks are not confined to adolescent males. More importantly, any member inclined to make such remarks would not be of benefit to any component of Farkin forums irrespective of gender.


thats true, however the likelihood of a mature member saying that (especially one whos been around long enough to know and respect the rules) is much lower that that of a young kid saying it. and i agree that someone saying stuff like that would not be of benefit anywhere, however the impact would be greater in the womens section as (a) its more concentrated both in terms of input and audience, and (b) if the womens section is what draws new female members,then they're going to be more inclined to stay there until they feel comfortable with the whole site...

any way as you said its not our decision in the end...

andrew

[tonas]

thats true, however the likelihood of a mature member saying that (especially one whos been around long enough to know and respect the rules) is much lower that that of a young kid saying it.

What???

and i agree that someone saying stuff like that would not be of benefit anywhere,

My point exactly. Uncooperative members filling the pages of Farkin with arbitrary and offensive comments should not be tolerated, irrespective of a womens forum.

the impact would be greater in the womens section as (a) its more concentrated both in terms of input and audience, and (b) if the womens section is what draws new female members,then they're going to be more inclined to stay there until they feel comfortable with the whole site...

If, as I think we've both agreed on, unhelpful members are dealt with swiftly and vigorously, then women and men alike will have nothing to fear from participating in open/free discussion in all sections of the forums.

any way as you said its not our decision in the end...

Yes, but isnt it fun to expel considerable amounts of hot air. ;)

Andy.

[mtbmamma]

;)Admins and mods.



I agree, if that is the wish of the forums female members. But, as previously stated, I fail to see the point of having a female specific forum. Last time I checked gender classification was not a prerequisite for constructive and supportive cycling information.

Andy.


No, you are right just because they are women does not mean that they are more constructive or supportive. But with beginners, like me, riding with other women makes it easier as women will see things on a trail and understand where you are coming from. The first person to take me down Thredbo was a woman and she was so understanding and patient it was amazing. I know a guy could be too but she took me up on the last run before lunch so that the fear/ threat of quicker and stronger riders coming behind me was removed. I rode the mountain knowing I was the only one there and could take my time, this gave me more confidence. I now ride with guys and yes, they are great and patient, but so much stronger, faster and more experienced that I feel (and know) that I am holding them up. But they never complain. Thanks guys.;)

[mtbmamma]

You just need special filtering questions to get you access:

Is chartreuse or mauve closer to purple? Mauve

Which is more sheer: chiffon or tulle? Chiffon but you can get differing thicknesses of tulle too! But lets be honest one fall during a downhill run and either would tear as quickly

Pumps, mules and slides: compare and contrast... Well every girl needs a good pair of low heeled pumps in her wardrobe, now doesn't she???? Mules though can be pretty but put such a strain on the muscles of the feet that is where pumps are just so much more practical and with larger flat forefoot on the pumps they sit really well on the pedals. As for slides, lets be honest who would be seen in slides anywhere other than the beach or after that warm evenings trail ride in your chiffon jersey!!!

Any girl will know the answers, and any guy who knows the answers probably isn't a threat... Oh do behave! ;)

[mtbmamma]

As you said, long run. But we have to get some level of female participation higher than the say 20 out of 16,000 members to get that ball rolling first!

When women have a fair crack at the whip or have equal access to opportunities such as guys have had since year dot, I reckon you'll have a point. But it has always been a man's world, if the ladies get a little bit of extra opportunity here nad there to restore some balance, I think it's a good thing.

Thank you Johnny, your empathy for the female cause is appreciated. I know that I don't feel threatened from being on a male dominated forum but a female section would be good for women specific problems like seats and girl only rides and other things that guys might find a bit "pathetic" though they're not they're just coming from a different point of view.

I say lets give it a go girls. :D

[skwiz05]

But, as previously stated, I fail to see the point of having a female specific forum. Last time I checked gender classification was not a prerequisite for constructive and supportive cycling information.

Andy.

Hmm.....so please tell me.......what BRA is recommended for mountain bike riding.......and do you carry spare TAMPONS in your seat bag or stuff them in your bra while on the trail......???

Please give the chicks their space...cause I sure as shit can't offer constructive cycling information in these FEMALE SPECIFIC areas.....

[FR Drew]

Actually, Amber Hardwick recently put an article into one of the Australian MTB mags about a bra she tested that she thought gave pretty good support when riding.

As to the other question, I'm suspecting that unless you have a very girly and clinically clean seatbag, keeping things like that in there is just asking for toxic shock (you don't wanna know) and people probably take whatever measures they need to prior to leaving home for the ride. (or, perish the thought, opt out of riding on that day as I'm guessing it's not going to be really comfortable hitting up the trails anyhow)

Just as long as no-one is firing up threads on why Gone With the Wind is a great film, or how great Breakast at Tiffany's is. I mean, Audrey is stunning and all, but the story... Give me Charade or The Ghost and Mrs Muir any day.

[Cave Dweller]

When women have a fair crack at the whip or have equal access to opportunities such as guys have had since year dot, I reckon you'll have a point. But it has always been a man's world, if the ladies get a little bit of extra opportunity here nad there to restore some balance, I think it's a good thing.

I'd still like a mens room at uni with play stations, a coffee maker and some pics of pamila on the wall. :cool:

I understand your point, but the whole concept of feminism is about equality, fairness and not being discrimnated against. Purely having a specific womens anything flies in the face of that.

[mtbmamma]

Hmm.....so please tell me.......what BRA is recommended for mountain bike riding.......and do you carry spare TAMPONS in your seat bag or stuff them in your bra while on the trail......???

Please give the chicks their space...cause I sure as shit can't offer constructive cycling information in these FEMALE SPECIFIC areas.....

Well this is exactly the sort of stuff girls do discuss. Sports bra's are best believe me, I wore a gorgeous lacy number at Ourimbah and trust me it does not do the job on a downhill run and after a decent fall who wants to pick bark out of a $65 bra????? As for carrying spare tampons, well you did bring it up but yes that would be needed depending on the length of the ride. Oh and as for Toxic Shock all pads and tampons are individually wrapped these days.


So see boys there is a place for a girls site just because, in some ways, we are different and have some specific needs. ;)

[FR Drew]

Well this is exactly the sort of stuff girls do discuss. Sports bra's are best believe me, I wore a gorgeous lacy number at Ourimbah and trust me it does not do the job on a downhill run and after a decent fall who wants to pick bark out of a $65 bra????? As for carrying spare tampons, well you did bring it up but yes that would be needed depending on the length of the ride. Oh and as for Toxic Shock all pads and tampons are individually wrapped these days.


Still not sure I'd want one rattling around with my multitool, spare chain links, tyre levers etc, individually wrapped or not.

Bring forth the girls section I say. Not sure that barring fellas from being able to either view or have any input is the way to go, but I'd more than support a zero tolerance/one strike and you're out for the males making posts in that section of the forum.

The guys who don't want to read it, don't go there. Same as the womens specific section of MTBR.

[mtbmamma]

Still not sure I'd want one rattling around with my multitool, spare chain links, tyre levers etc, individually wrapped or not.

Bring forth the girls section I say. Not sure that barring fellas from being able to either view or have any input is the way to go, but I'd more than support a zero tolerance/one strike and you're out for the males making posts in that section of the forum.

The guys who don't want to read it, don't go there. Same as the womens specific section of MTBR.

I think you are quite right on that point, don't bar guys from being able to view or have any input, and yes zero tolerance would be a good way to go. Most guys probably will loose interest in the girls section after a short while anyway. :)

[covert wolf]

I think its a good idea. To keep the trouble makers at bay have a 3 warning system, after 3 warnings you get banned from the womens area of farkin. What do you think?

[R33F]

I've suggested to management that we have a PRIVATE forum where women get automatic access and male members have to apply stating why they want access etc. If anyone else can think of a good way to keep the groms at bay speak up now.:)

I don't think the female riders should be made to feel segregated.

I think your suggestion is a great one Grip.

Maybe ask the females if they want their own forum ? (poll or alike ?)

[bransly]

i think this would be a great idea!
it would bet more girls into farkin...

[PyletSnviper]

Maybe ask the females if they want their own forum ? (poll or alike ?)


may i just point out that the original post was mandy asking for something like this.... no poll needed.... lets just let the mods and admins sort out the ideas for the area.. then were set

really... were up to page 7 i think now.... so many pointless posts in here... so lets just stop agreeing to this for the sake of agreeing and wait and see what happens :)

[TerraNik]

I just thought I'd put my 2 cents in... For the past week or so I have been searching the net for forums on MTBing, hoping that there was a stack of girls on one!! Thankfully I found Team Estrogen, however it's based in the states. I don't mind hanging with the guys at all, but it's true - if a forum had a section for women's specific discussion, I would definately make sure that I visit it more often than the others that I have found, because I'd be more likely to be able to tee-up rides with other chicks and chat about chick biking issues.

Good idea, Mandy :) Good initiative!

[R33F]

Maybe ask the females if they want their own forum ? (poll or alike ?)

may i just point out that the original post was mandy asking for something like this.... no poll needed.... lets just let the mods and admins sort out the ideas for the area.. then were set

really... were up to page 7 i think now.... so many pointless posts in here... so lets just stop agreeing to this for the sake of agreeing and wait and see what happens :)

Thankyou for pointing that out.

I realise that mandy ( 1 of how many females on farkin ? ) has asked for a seperate forum.

Grip asked for comments, I gave mine.

Let the females decide if they want their own forum.

I gave my 2c worth. Why is that pointless ?

PM me if you wish to discuss this further.

[tonas]

Hmm.....so please tell me.......what BRA is recommended for mountain bike riding.......and do you carry spare TAMPONS in your seat bag or stuff them in your bra while on the trail......???

Please give the chicks their space...cause I sure as shit can't offer constructive cycling information in these FEMALE SPECIFIC areas.....

Nor can I and we're not expected to, as I've no doubt other current female forum members can.

My point, as Cave Dweller has concisely articulated, is: "the whole concept of feminism is about equality, fairness and not being discrimnated against. Purely having a specific womens anything flies in the face of that."

Andy.

[wombat]

Nor can I and we're not expected to, as I've no doubt other current female forum members can.

My point, as Cave Dweller has concisely articulated, is: "the whole concept of feminism is about equality, fairness and not being discrimnated against. Purely having a specific womens anything flies in the face of that."

Andy.
We have a DH forum for questions about DH riding, a XC forum for questions related to XC and a street forum for questions related to street stuff.
Why shouldn't there be a forum where people can post threads regarding specific issues that relate to female mtbing?
Maybe instead of looking at it as sexist segregation, we should just try and look at it as another specialised topic division?

[johnny]

I'd still like a mens room at uni with play stations, a coffee maker and some pics of pamila on the wall. :cool:

I understand your point, but the whole concept of feminism is about equality, fairness and not being discrimnated against. Purely having a specific womens anything flies in the face of that.
I se your point becuse blokes like you and I have been bought up to see women as equal as us from the start. So when we have lived our lives without any prejudices as we think we have, it's hard to accept when girls get more than us. We didn't discriminate, where's our room??!!

Unfortunateloy this is not the average, things are still pretty skewed.

[tonas]

We have a DH forum for questions about DH riding, a XC forum for questions related to XC and a street forum for questions related to street stuff.

Why shouldn't there be a forum where people can post threads regarding specific issues that relate to female mtbing?

Apples with apples...? Nice try, but not even close. ;)

Maybe instead of looking at it as sexist segregation, we should just try and look at it as another specialised topic division?



I agree, if that is the wish of the forums female members. But, as previously stated, I fail to see the point of having a female specific forum. Last time I checked gender classification was not a prerequisite for constructive and supportive cycling information.


As far as I'm concerned this is not my battle, it is a decision for female members to contemplate. My gripe is with the reasoning for need of such a forum. All members, male, female and S. :p should feel comfortable to ask for advice on any subject free from moronic grandstanders.

Andy.

[No_Style]

If a private forum is what most of the ladies on the site want then go for it. At least it would be a somewhat more secure place for women to start organising rides etc without having to suffer the smart ass comments and general hassling from all the idiots.

[Grip]

My gripe is with the reasoning for need of such a forum. All members, male, female and S. :p should feel comfortable to ask for advice on any subject free from moronic grandstanders.


I agree, Tonas... they SHOULD be able to. Unfortunately they can't though.

[No_Style]

I agree, Tonas... they SHOULD be able to. Unfortunately they can't though.

Bang on the money there, which is a shame...

[wombat]

Apples with apples...? Nice try, but not even close. ;)Care to explain why?

You say you can't see the reason for a specific forum relating to female mtb issues, but you don't say why.
There are obviously issues surrounding riding that pertain specifically to female riders, just as there are issues that pertain specifically to DHers or errrbon-ers.
We group the DH topics in one area, so why not group the women specific topics in another area?

You might ask why, if we're going to divide in this way, don't we have a specific forum for shoe questions and brake questions and fork questions etc. but I would contend that it would add little to the site as a whole, whereas having an easily identifiable resource, specific to a group who are often find themselves marginalised within our sport, could offer a lot to this particular group and hopefully help to increase their involvement in the sport.

[roxy12]

Care to explain why?

You say you can't see the reason for a specific forum relating to female mtb issues, but you don't say why.
There are obviously issues surrounding riding that pertain specifically to female riders, just as there are issues that pertain specifically to DHers or errrbon-ers.
.

I too would like to see your reasoning.

We should beable to post as any other farkin member would ut when it comes to certain topics all were going to get is young boys being dicks.

Ive seen people post before about leg cramps, and back pain, i dont beleive id feel comfortable asking the rest of the male farkin population what to do about period pain experienced during rideing, if something like that came up. Id be wanting to talk to other female riders. When it comes to rideing there are alot of issues females face that guys dont even or will ever realy know.

A female specific forum would be great not only just as a resourse for females and female needs but also just as an extra advertsiment to show the growing female rideing population.

Im all for it.

[tonas]

Care to explain why?

Certainly.

Young female member posts in hypothetical women’s specific forum; her question goes something like this. Example: After having ridden a road bike for years, I've just started to venture off-road on my boyfriends mountain bike. I am enjoying it thoroughly but seem to be having difficulty when confronted with steep rocky trails. My rear tire just spins and I'm unable to get sufficient traction. Should I get new tires and/or lower their pressure..? Should I stay in the saddle or get out when climbing...? Thanks, look forward to organising a ride with you all in the future.

The constructive responses from senior forum members to such a post would have no specific relationship to gender. My point is, helpful cycling advice is first and foremost discipline/style specific not gender specific. Imparting such logic would dictate the introduction of a female DH forum, female XC forum, female DJ/4x forum, etc.

Andy.

[Grip]

Tonas, in answer to what you've just written above this perhaps you'd like to re-read post number 77 by Roxy.

And you still haven't addressed what I said in post 74.

Now you can shut up:p :p :p

[wombat]

Certainly.

Young female member posts in hypothetical women’s specific forum; her question goes something like this. Example: After having ridden a road bike for years, I've just started to venture off-road on my boyfriends mountain bike. I am enjoying it thoroughly but seem to be having difficulty when confronted with steep rocky trails. My rear tire just spins and I'm unable to get sufficient traction. Should I get new tires and/or lower their pressure..? Should I stay in the saddle or get out when climbing...? Thanks, look forward to organising a ride with you all in the future.

The constructive responses from senior forum members to such a post would have no specific relationship to gender. My point is, helpful cycling advice is first and foremost discipline/style specific not gender specific. Imparting such logic would dictate the introduction of a female DH forum, female XC forum, female DJ/4x forum, etc.

Andy.
That is a fair point, although a very poor example, and here's why::)

The proposed forum (as far as I know) is not going to be a matter of restricting the participation of females within the forum; we're not saying "great, now we have a women's forum we don't have to let them post anywhere else".

The aim is to provide an outlet for people to ask female specific questions (which your example is not), not to totally seperate female and male members.

I suppose we're relying on the judgement of members to decide whether a question is female specific or not, but that's no different to judging whether a question is DH specific or not (say a question about DH forks: does it go in the DH forum or the parts forum?). There's inevitably going to be a level of overlap as there is more than one common factor in most scenarios, but I feel that the valubility of the resource stands.

If some level of division in topic areas wasn't required then Farkin would just be one big forum for everything, but that is cumbersome and difficult to control. Admittedly the ladies forum may be a bit slower than some of the other subforums, but we won't know if we don't try, and even with limited traffic it could still be worthwhile.

Do you understand where we're coming from?

[Cave Dweller]

Just for the record i don't really mind that much if there is a womens forum, i don't like the idea of it being locked though. But the point i was raising was in general i don't like anything to be segregated, be it here or in the real world.

Not to stir the pot or anything, but tonas makes some valid points. Gender aside, if there is something parts related we have a parts section, organise a ride, well we have an organise your rides section.

If there is something of health/medical nature that needs to be discussed, such as womens issues such as period cramps or mens issues such as what to do to prevent crushing your nuts on the saddle, maybe it would be better to start a forum on here about health and nutrition? Sure, things might be women specific but men can contribute too, its not like we know nothing about your bodies ;)

Sure, there are youngs kids on here who will be idiots, but a quick slap around the ears fixxes them.

And you just know that by locking it people will just register fake accounts as girls so they can go and read what they are not allowed to, they will probably make heaps of offensive posts and the whole thing will fall apart.

[Grip]

And you just know that by locking it people will just register fake accounts as girls so they can go and read what they are not allowed to, they will probably make heaps of offensive posts and the whole thing will fall apart.

We only pretend to be silly, you know;) . You DO realize we have the technology to see you from your monitor, don't you?

Actually we'd thought of that and are thinking that only members who are established on the forums as a "known" persona will be granted access, which means someone would have to sign up a second account, hope that they get by the second-account spotting software and then actually build and maintain the female persona until they meet the entrance requirements. Personally I don't think the "dicks" would bother.

[leitch]

We only pretend to be silly, you know;) . You DO realize we have the technology to see you from your monitor, don't you?

Actually we'd thought of that and are thinking that only members who are established on the forums as a "known" persona will be granted access, which means someone would have to sign up a second account, hope that they get by the second-account spotting software and then actually build and maintain the female persona until they meet the entrance requirements. Personally I don't think the "dicks" would bother.

grip - is this going to be a strictly women only in the case that male members cant read either? surely if a male member could read the forum (but not post), then if they had constructive advice (eg the saddle they bought for their wife/girlfriend or whatever) they could PM the poster in reference to their question?

[PyletSnviper]

[QUOTE=roxy12;741418]We should beable to post as any other farkin member would ut when it comes to certain topics all were going to get is young boys being dicks.[QUOTE]

not all young boys are dicks..... i am only 16... see young... and i recieved a pm from mandy last night saying how helpful i was

try not to steryotype.... lol just put a 'most' in there between 'is' and 'young' :P

[Grip]

grip - is this going to be a strictly women only in the case that male members cant read either? surely if a male member could read the forum (but not post), then if they had constructive advice (eg the saddle they bought for their wife/girlfriend or whatever) they could PM the poster in reference to their question?

I've actually suggested that the forum be a "female" forum i.e. women get automatic access to it, but that male members are allowed to apply for access. Not sure of the criteria yet and this is certainly not a decision that's up to me anyway. As usual all the moderators discuss this sort of thing and make recommendations to Lord Voldermort.... oops.... I mean Scott... and as usual he'll do whatever the hell he wants with it :p . After all it is his website;)

[PyletSnviper]

just on that note grip... if it was the female members who could let the others in that would probibly be good too.. cause it would be applying to them for access..... because the last thing they would want is people been accepted then them saying.. hang on we dont want him him or him in here

plus at the moment i dont think there is many female members on farkin... so between the 50 or so of them i am sure they could let in only those they want in and have good reasons for wanting access

[roxy12]

[QUOTE=roxy12;741418]We should beable to post as any other farkin member would ut when it comes to certain topics all were going to get is young boys being dicks.[QUOTE]

not all young boys are dicks..... i am only 16... see young... and i recieved a pm from mandy last night saying how helpful i was

try not to steryotype.... lol just put a 'most' in there between 'is' and 'young' :P

so 16 is young now? wow didnt realise id actualy labeled a group then? guss YOU jumped to conclusions. I have made many valuable MALE 16-19yo friends off here, but MANY have simply added me to msn or pm'd me with disgusting rude vulgar and simply offensive comments that can be classed as harrasement, I was simply making a point as to what can happen on here.

im 19 does that make me old? generalisattions and assumptions?

[roxy12]

I see no reason why men cant view the forum but simply not post unless granted permission, as im sure many guys have g/fs and wifes that may benefit as i know many females who are not internet friendly.

being able to post though, I think should work as trading access does, give me a reason and il let you in typr thing.

[PyletSnviper]

so 16 is young now?

im 19 does that make me old? generalisattions and assumptions?


yes i did think u were thinking that about the 15/16 mark when u meant young.... sorry :o

and 19... jees ur old :P i cant really say that since some of the people i ride with race in masters 3 and 4 .. lol

and next time u get a pm from anyone that you find harassing foward it a mods direction... that shouldn't be tolerated

being able to post though, I think should work as trading access does, give me a reason and il let you in typr thing.

i totally agree... and it should be you, the female members who do the filtering of people you let in :)

[Grip]

just on that note grip... if it was the female members who could let the others in that would probibly be good too.. cause it would be applying to them for access..... because the last thing they would want is people been accepted then them saying.. hang on we dont want him him or him in here

plus at the moment i dont think there is many female members on farkin... so between the 50 or so of them i am sure they could let in only those they want in and have good reasons for wanting access

No. the suggestion for a women's forum does not equate to an amazon society run by and for the "fairer" sex (:rolleyes: ). It simply means a place that by virtue of greater restrictions will be less of a zoo than the open forums. It will be no different to the Industry forum or the NSWMTB forum... neither of which are self regulatory/governing. If people want to apply for access to those particular forums then it still comes through Farkin HQ. And at this stage that's what's planned for the womens forum. So lets not get all bent out of our own gender and fall over our dangly bits trying to be overly PC, eh?

[PyletSnviper]

i dont know what PC is but sounds well thought out :)

[Grip]

i dont know what PC is but sounds well thought out :)

Politically Correct

[PyletSnviper]

ahh now it makes sence..lol

i was thinking pc as in computer..lol i was like that sounds wrong..lol

[tonas]

I too would like to see your reasoning.

We should beable to post as any other farkin member would ut when it comes to certain topics all were going to get is young boys being dicks.

Ive seen people post before about leg cramps, and back pain, i dont beleive id feel comfortable asking the rest of the male farkin population what to do about period pain experienced during rideing, if something like that came up.

Id be wanting to talk to other female riders. When it comes to rideing there are alot of issues females face that guys dont even or will ever realy know.

Point taken, but what makes you think that a male forum member would feel comfortable to express complaints of erectile difficultly after long sessions in the saddle...? In following that line of argument it pays to ask why we shouldn't have a private male forum...?

And you still haven't addressed what I said in post 74.

Now you can shut up:p :p :p

Please forgive me, my devil's advocate cloak is beginning to wear a little thin. :D

I agree, Tonas... they SHOULD be able to. Unfortunately they can't though.

That is not a legitimate argument. You Grip, as an administrator, should know better than most that Farkin forum access is a privilege to be respected not a right to be abused. All men, women, dogs, cats, turtles and ferrets are expected to uphold a certain level of behaviour when posting in the forums, irrespective of the topic of debate.

That is a fair point, although a very poor example, and here's why::)

The proposed forum (as far as I know) is not going to be a matter of restricting the participation of females within the forum; we're not saying "great, now we have a women's forum we don't have to let them post anywhere else".

The aim is to provide an outlet for people to ask female specific questions (which your example is not), not to totally seperate female and male members.

I suppose we're relying on the judgement of members to decide whether a question is female specific or not, but that's no different to judging whether a question is DH specific or not (say a question about DH forks: does it go in the DH forum or the parts forum?). There's inevitably going to be a level of overlap as there is more than one common factor in most scenarios, but I feel that the valubility of the resource stands.

If some level of division in topic areas wasn't required then Farkin would just be one big forum for everything, but that is cumbersome and difficult to control. Admittedly the ladies forum may be a bit slower than some of the other subforums, but we won't know if we don't try, and even with limited traffic it could still be worthwhile.

Do you understand where we're coming from?

I'm exhausted and as much as it burns me up to admit it, your comments are just about watertight. :)

Andy.

[mtbmamma]

That is a fair point, although a very poor example, and here's why::)
Admittedly the ladies forum may be a bit slower than some of the other subforums, but we won't know if we don't try, and even with limited traffic it could still be worthwhile.

Do you understand where we're coming from?

It may be slower but until it is up and running we won't know. So lets give it a try. Come on Lord Voldemort ooops, Scott, Squid, Johnny and Grip just get it started. :p

[Squidly Didly]

Come on Lord Voldemort ooops, Scott, Squid, Johnny and Grip just get it started. :p
Patience mtbnagger. Scott's slower then Dicky on a DH bike, but he'll get the forum up as soon as he finds the time in his busy schedule.
Oi Scott, get that damn Kranked vid on the front page ya slacker

[S.]

Only a women's forum could stir up this much drama :p

/excludes self from access :)


As far as I can tell, there are quite a few female members on this site, most of whom post infrequently, many of whom have cited examples of being harassed in some way by random idiots just because they're female, and who generally are outnumbered about 100:1 on this site. I think having a women-specific forum where they can make their collective presence felt, and become aware of the other female members of this site, would only be an encouragement to female riders/members. Ridemonkey has such a forum, has no restrictions on who can post, and doesn't seem to have any trouble with it. I think the intimidation factor of idiot blokes posting vulgar crap is greatly reduced when it's in a publicly viewable forum and there are a number of women (and men) who will tell such tools to bugger off. On top of that, the mods on this site are pretty active and you can be damn sure that any garbage posted in such a forum would be booted out quicksmart along with the poster. Personally I am of the opinion that it's all a bit of a self-fulfilling prophecy - if you set up all kinds of precautions to prevent tards posting crap in specific forums, then it almost legitimises the idea that such behaviour is thus expected to occur, in the tard's sticking-it-to-the-man (or in this case woman) mindset. If the general attitude is that everyone simply EXPECTS people to not post shit as a matter of course (and is surprised/angry at the poster if and when it does happen), then behaviour like that is quite subtley shown to be unacceptable.

Not only that, the women's forums that I've seen are usually simply passed over by most of the guys, because they have little interest in the women-specific discussions (eg needing a woman-specific saddle, or brake levers/grips to suit small hands, or a suitably light frame, blah blah) and - get this - actually feel somewhat excluded from the women's community.

In short: I reckon we just avoid restricting access unless, after a period of time, it's proven that there is simply no alternative. It only takes people a few seconds to report a post, it takes us about 4 seconds to ban someone (I have the "ban user" page bookmarked), and in all honesty I think we're making a bigger deal of this than needs to be made - if we need to ban some tards, meh, I'm happy to cull the population a bit.

[mtbmamma]

Patience mtbnagger. Scott's slower then Dicky on a DH bike, but he'll get the forum up as soon as he finds the time in his busy schedule.

I note that you have written the last part of your post in white Squid and I quote, just to clarify the situation:-
Oi Scott, get that damn Kranked vid on the front page ya slacker

Who's the nagger now?
Oi Scott, get that damn Kranked vid on the front page ya slacker

Only a women's forum could stir up this much drama :p

/excludes self from access :)


As far as I can tell, there are quite a few female members on this site, most of whom post infrequently, many of whom have cited examples of being harassed in some way by random idiots just because they're female, and who generally are outnumbered about 100:1 on this site. I think having a women-specific forum where they can make their collective presence felt, and become aware of the other female members of this site, would only be an encouragement to female riders/members. Ridemonkey has such a forum, has no restrictions on who can post, and doesn't seem to have any trouble with it. I think the intimidation factor of idiot blokes posting vulgar crap is greatly reduced when it's in a publicly viewable forum and there are a number of women (and men) who will tell such tools to bugger off. On top of that, the mods on this site are pretty active and you can be damn sure that any garbage posted in such a forum would be booted out quicksmart along with the poster. Personally I am of the opinion that it's all a bit of a self-fulfilling prophecy - if you set up all kinds of precautions to prevent tards posting crap in specific forums, then it almost legitimises the idea that such behaviour is thus expected to occur, in the tard's sticking-it-to-the-man (or in this case woman) mindset. If the general attitude is that everyone simply EXPECTS people to not post shit as a matter of course (and is surprised/angry at the poster if and when it does happen), then behaviour like that is quite subtley shown to be unacceptable.

Not only that, the women's forums that I've seen are usually simply passed over by most of the guys, because they have little interest in the women-specific discussions (eg needing a woman-specific saddle, or brake levers/grips to suit small hands, or a suitably light frame, blah blah) and - get this - actually feel somewhat excluded from the women's community.

In short: I reckon we just avoid restricting access unless, after a period of time, it's proven that there is simply no alternative. It only takes people a few seconds to report a post, it takes us about 4 seconds to ban someone (I have the "ban user" page bookmarked), and in all honesty I think we're making a bigger deal of this than needs to be made - if we need to ban some tards, meh, I'm happy to cull the population a bit.

Actually I never thought about the trouble I have had with very small hands and brake levers not to mention a small/petite frame, thanks S. You really seem to have womens issues down pat.

I agree with what S has said. If it is an open forum I think, after a while, the stupid posts will cease, if they start at all, and it will be able to be scrutinised much better.:D

[wombat]

I'm exhausted and as much as it burns me up to admit it, your comments are just about watertight. :)
Don't let it burn you too much, I mean it could be worse, I could be Steve.:p

Anyway, for what it's worth, I too am against segregation in theory, it's just that like many things the practical application is much less black and white.

[roxy12]

Only a women's forum could stir up this much drama :p

/excludes self from access :)


As far as I can tell, there are quite a few female members on this site, most of whom post infrequently, many of whom have cited examples of being harassed in some way by random idiots just because they're female, and who generally are outnumbered about 100:1 on this site. I think having a women-specific forum where they can make their collective presence felt, and become aware of the other female members of this site, would only be an encouragement to female riders/members.

He gets it! as hes said 100:1 theres a reason we get overlooked at races, at rides anywhere basicaly to do with bikes we get looked over and get bugger all attention, ive spoken to girls who have been intrested in the sport and have passed it up simply as there has been no attenton to the female presence giving the idea that we just dont do it! which is untrue the female race group is getting bigger!

Having something like this would open up the communication lines and have us noticed even if it is just an "oh its a womens section"

you guys always bitch about girls not rideing, and im always getting shit about winning races because there has only been 3-5 of us and winning series because of "attendence points", well you want to help? something like this would!

you have an issue with any of us winning races simply because there isnt 15 poeople in the class? then why not just do this, i cant see how its going to effect any of you greatly at all! but im sure it will help the promtion of females and rideing

[johnny]

I think we can all be pretty confident that it's going to happen as soon as Scott can get around to it. ;)

[roxy12]

fantasic:D

[S.]

Hooray. Any hot chix wanna go riding wiht me pm me thanx.

[arpit]

pmed you. :)

[tonas]

Don't let it burn you too much, I mean it could be worse, I could be Steve.:p

Hehe. Don't count your chickens too early; this little duck is only just beginning to warm up. :D

Anyway, for what it's worth, I too am against segregation in theory, it's just that like many things the practical application is much less black and white.

Very true, it’s far easier to moralise on the black board then out in the real world. *slowly lowers head and begins to climb staircase back up to the ivory tower*

Andy.

[brisneyland]

Hooray. Any hot chix wanna go riding wiht me pm me thanx.

Capitalisation, punctuation... yeah I'm on to you, ya fraud.

:p

[fattyandthepiemakers]

Tada, it has appeared.

[roxy12]

mmm now its here i duno what to do with it:p

[johnny]

Introduce yourself and say hi, just get the ball rolling and start the community.

[exvitermini]

mmm now its here i duno what to do with it:p


make a who's who post or something welcoming the female side of farkin?

[roxy12]

good idea boys:)

cheers

[TerraNik]

Yay!! :D Thanks to everyone who supported this idea!!

[fleshbone]

um,instead of taking up the ladies new section i thought i'd put it here instead.i recon it was a good idea for this new part aye,cause my mates new gf does dh and ive introduced her to farkin,all she has to do is sign up,yay.

[roxy12]

yes thansk to whoever deleted the random guys thought, duno what eskimo was trying to pull?:confused:

but yehs, it is great, gives the ladys an easier way to transfer into the upfront world of farkin.

[Squidly Didly]

yes thansk to whoever deleted the random guys thought
Why do I have the feeling that this forum is going to require heavy amounts of moderation!

[Yeti]

yes thansk to whoever deleted the random guys thought, duno what eskimo was trying to pull?:confused:

but yehs, it is great, gives the ladys an easier way to transfer into the upfront world of farkin.

Uhhh yeah. guilty. Was just testing to see if people that signed up as males could post a thread in the womens forum. I know that you can and asked squid kindly to fix it. instant service. As squid and myself both agreed, moderation to the max.

[roxy12]

well i see it as being cimple just need to post some rules up

you know
1.dont post random thoughts about girls and ride what ever that thought may be:rolleyes: unless its seriously relevant to somthing! lol:p

[Jon]

It could have a password setup, be like the old adult only amstrad or commodore 64 games where you had to answer some obscure question that only older people would know :cool:[/QUOTE]
I reckon you've just proved your age:D
dont panic I'm 43.:(
cheers jon

[johnny]

It will be a girls ONLY forum soon. Just sorting out the details of it all.

[roxy12]

will it still be viewable by guys though? even if they cant post?

I undertsand why we dont want people posting but I dont see a reason why they cant view.

[tu plang]

womens only section aye, next thing you know they'll be voting :cool:

[FR Drew]

So even if we have any relevant info we can't post to it?

Or do we apply?

[tu plang]

Or do we apply?

its probably not worth the effort, have you seen the waiting lists for elective surgery?

[donthucktoflat]

womens only section aye, next thing you know they'll be voting :cool:

or driving:eek:

only kidding. i think its great to have a women's section.. maybe not let said pre-pubescent boys in there.. or at least not let them post

[roxy12]

or driving:eek:

only kidding. i think its great to have a women's section.. maybe not let said pre-pubescent boys in there.. or at least not let them post

your all just big shit stirers!

[brisneyland]

will it still be viewable by guys though? even if they cant post?

I undertsand why we dont want people posting but I dont see a reason why they cant view.

look but don't touch?

[mtbmamma]

or driving:eek:

only kidding. i think its great to have a women's section.. maybe not let said pre-pubescent boys in there.. or at least not let them post

Just you watch it, you are just past pubescent give or take a few years and I will be watching you cheeky.

your all just big shit stirers!

Yes, they are and most of them are really great guys and very encouraging to females in the sport. They have been wonderful to me having my first few go's.

look but don't touch? Why not, it is the liberal society that says you can look and touch. Touch maybe but only if we say its ok. Boy I sound old and boring!!!! Trust me I'm not but when you watch Max, V and MTV its amazing what message is being sent out to pre-pubescent girls and boys too for that matter, these days. I don't mind but then I'm old enough both mentally and the rest to handle it. Sorry boys.:rolleyes:

[derelikt]

i think anything that supports getting more people into our sport is a great thing, farkin should have a womens only forum that only women can access

[johnny]

That's great, thanks for your far too late to do any good comment on the subject!

The girl's only forum has been up and running for weeks. You should check the date of threads before you go posting in them ;)