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lately i've noticed, looking at pics and videos on the net of people doing tricks on dirt and into foam. And a lot came up where they were using duallies (like a Specialized Enduro) to do tricks you'd expect on a bmx, or even a hardtail.
like doing flips (understandable) and tailwhips (or bar spins), it doesn't seem right on them. Then you see 360 flips into foam and flip whips, and i wondered why they didn't just use a an easy bike to try these. I mean, if you can afford Fox 36's, you can afford a foam pit bmx.
just find it weird that i found so many pics and videos of people doing them on duallies when i find it'd be harder
leitch
10-09-2006, 08:11 PM
why learn tricks to foam on a clunker BMX when as soon as you try to do it on your duallie to dirt its going to be entirely different and you're likely to screw it up?
Hamer
10-09-2006, 08:19 PM
whats wrong with mountain bikers riding mountain bikes?
Alec McJo
10-09-2006, 08:26 PM
Gee i duno why they wouldn't ride a BMX due to the easier facter. It's not like they would ride MTB cause they like it more than BMX or anything. Nah, that couldnt be it.
:rolleyes:
Sorry to be a smartass, but that's gota be one of the dummest questions i've ever seen asked!
leitch - its just before they even do it, just wondering why they choose duallies to do them on. to me, its like going to jump a downhill roadgap on a bmx. its possible, but you wouldn't choose the bmx over a duallie.
Hamer - i didn't say there was anything wrong with mountain bikers riding mountain bikes, did i? the answer was no
Um...because they want to learn how to land the tricks on their big bikes. Having gone from MTB to BMX surely you realise that 99.9% of tricks are a shitload easier on a BMX...any trick I learn on my big bike I can transfer to doing on the BMX in 2 minutes flat, anything I learn on my BMX I have to basically re-learn to be able to do it on my big bike (except for limb-flingers, they don't really count though).
If you want to learn to tailwhip a duallie, learn how to tailwhip a duallie. Being able to tailwhip a BMX teaches you the motion, but it's fucking hard to translate it to a bike that weighs twice as much, spins slower, has bigger, heavier wheels etc etc.
or maybe they only own dualies?
stooge
10-09-2006, 09:13 PM
lately i've noticed, looking at pics and videos on the net of people doing tricks on dirt and into foam.
Thats most probably because they are into the slopestyle/freeride/dj riding and/or such events.
And a lot came up where they were using duallies (like a Specialized Enduro) to do tricks you'd expect on a bmx, or even a hardtail.
That would be the sx trail, slopestyle/freeride bike. Awesome to ride!!!
just find it weird that i found so many pics and videos of people doing them on duallies when i find it'd be harder
Not 100% correct. Fair enough, doing certain 'bmx' oreintated tricks would be harder to a certain degree, how ever, it would be much easier to do such trick(s) on a slopstyle/mid-travel jump duallie when riding a freeride/slopestyle track as larger wheels, suspension etc, would make it easier to control landings from greater heights, higher speeds etc.
In regards to the 'why dont they just use bmxes' well, some people just grow up riding mtb's and just transition into the freeride/jump riding and naturally feel much more comfortable on a smaller jump orientated mtb rather than a bmx.
Here are some pictures of some slopestyle events and such, courtesy of pinkbike.com, hopfully these pics will show you why you would want to use a duallie.
http://photo.pinkbike.com/photo/777/pbpic777397.jpg http://photo.pinkbike.com/photo/944/pbpic944371.jpg http://photo.pinkbike.com/photo/944/pbpic944370.jpg
the terrain in the slope style parks and some of the monster jump sets is too rough for a 20" bike, it's not easy to see in videos or photos but occasionally you'll hear a rider mention in an interview how rough the run up to a trick is.
emcgough
10-09-2006, 09:49 PM
Do you know what's worse? Those bloody FMX'ers... I mean honestly.. those things weigh over 100 kg's.. you'd think they would have realised that a BMX bike is far easier to chuck around.
ovadahill
10-09-2006, 10:12 PM
lately i've noticed, looking at pics and videos on the net of people doing tricks on dirt and into foam. And a lot came up where they were using duallies (like a Specialized Enduro) to do tricks you'd expect on a bmx, or even a hardtail.
just find it weird that i found so many pics and videos of people doing them on duallies when i find it'd be harder
It's not just a matter of weight - the 26" wheels have a much stronger gyroscopic effect which require more effort to rotate offline (like in a 360), but once in flight that extra gyroscopic force makes the MTB more stable than a 20" wheeled bike. Then the suspension does it's job to allow for bigger stunts (but not necesarily more complicated.
By the way props to you for landing those backflips and 360's today...also nice vid of the backflip http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HnpEHqYqvlo
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