BackFlipping ?/?/?

[$$$_Dirt_Jumper_$$$]

Has anyone on this site had any experience pulling a BackFlip?

I fucked up a jump the other day and went upside down but let go cause i was gonna get hammered if i held on.....

I'm keen to attempt a backflip and even if i dont succesfully land it should make for sum good Hang time and come cool stacks and injuries....

any genuine advice would be appreciatted.....

Cheers.....

[ss-stp1'06]

i think i might have done what you did...but heres my story

me and a couple of mates built a dirt jump...it wasnt that small...anyway it was at the bottom of a hill, and one time we were riding to it, and i had the smart idea of riding as fast as i could towards this jump, and i went up it. the bike and myself did half a backflip. i could tell it was slowing down with the spin (which is obviously is not good) and so i lent back...almost like when you pull the front of the bike up when rolling along the ground. anyway, the backflip started speeding up again...but it was too late and so i bailed...but it was kind of too late to bail aswell, and i landed under the bike...
anyway, hopefully this helped...its a fond memory i have...i only got 2 bruises!:p

[$$$_Dirt_Jumper_$$$]

LOL yeh sounds remarkbly similar to what i did.....

i had an idea to ride up to this new jump and hit is as fast as i could manage with out checking how much hieght/lift it gave you before hand.....

so just before i left the takeoff i pulled as hard as i could an sumhow ended upside down half way threw the air.....

but instead of actually trying to complete the backflip i just Bailed straight away......

anymore stories/advice on how to complete the backflip will be appreciatted

Cheers........

[2 smooth 4 u]

LOL yeh sounds remarkbly similar to what i did.....

i had an idea to ride up to this new jump and hit is as fast as i could manage with out checking how much hieght/lift it gave you before hand.....

so just before i left the takeoff i pulled as hard as i could an sumhow ended upside down half way threw the air.....

but instead of actually trying to complete the backflip i just Bailed straight away......

anymore stories/advice on how to complete the backflip will be appreciatted

Cheers........


just lock back untill you find your landing

ive heard backflips are alot ezier than 360s as they are just a matter of balls and looking back

[joshyboi069]

practise in a foam pit so you dont in jure your self. or a dam or creek

[bmx]

0o0o0 backflips.

easier to spin that a 360, just all balls.

but when you do it you want to avoid leaning forwards on the bars when you do it, coz when you come down to landthe last force of spin goes straight to your backwheel when you landed. it'll a) bust your rim or b) make it hard to land.

you want to try get into the 'squat' position. for example;
http://i85.photobucket.com/albums/k64/prsttx/03-09-06_1343.jpg
this is the best position. when i do it this way, it doesn't come down hard to the back wheel, and you get your spin easily.

you pretty much gotta just pullback, (push with you legs a bit if you're at sk8park) and you'll see the landing as you land. when you rotate, there is a blank spot. theres the take off, then the landing. you don't see anything inbetween it....wellyou dont notice. try it on dirt first.

when you try it, i'd recommend having lifetime bars and forks, also strong wheels. because you're never gonna get it perfect everytime, and you'll land on your front and itf its not good shit, it'll bend and brake and all hell would break loose.

but just try them first, and then after the outcome (if you live) adjust you speed and rotation speed. there is no way of telling how fastyou need til you've done it.
dont look sideways. you get less fucked up gooing for it than pulling out

[Ruckus_Lord]

I think sk8ting_mtber covered it all; Just one more tip, when upside down and looking backwards, most people have a natural inclination to turn their head to avoid injury or whatever, however this will cause you to spin and go all funky like...not good, it's a trick you really have to commit too, if you don't it will end up sketchy. Get them dialled into foam 1st, because it takes a while to get them right (i keep on skrewing up the last bit of the rotation), but yeah, just practise and practise, and commit to it! If you're going to do them on the hard ground don't do it half arsed!

[Grundos]

I wouldn't recommend trying them first time on dirt, if you have access to a dam jump or foam pit, use that (almost everyone I've seen has landed on their head the first few tries), otherwise pile up some old matresses after a jump.
There's not a real lot to them, just hit the jump pretty fast and pull back, then prepare for the landing.
Oh yeah, and they're a lot easier than 360's when you can do them.

[bmx]

yeah ruckus lord is right. dont turn your head. you get made more piss then.

and if you really have trouble committing, go to the skatepark. then you have to commit or else you'll die:p

[brad of sydney]

i dont have a penis

wtf? tell us something we dont know! lol.

[ss-stp1'06]

wtf? tell us something we dont know! lol.

hahahaha thats so funny...why did brett say that brad? i mean...we all know that hes a girl

[flognoffsky]

where i live the council awlays leaves pile of mulch around so we make lil kickers and use the mulch as a foam pit :cool:

[$$$_Dirt_Jumper_$$$]

Yeh true.....

where abouts do you live in brisbane?

[sawtell]

dont htink any one saud, pump the kicker like a mother fuker, bascially as soon as you leave the lip you should be spinning (to learn).

then as you get better, do em slower..

never try to spin em mid air, no worky..


I just cant do em, ive tried and tried for hours into water.. dont have the guts, i get half way and lose the bike.

[bmx]

wtf. thats stupid. you dont want to pedal as fast as you can and just spin crazy then learn to slow your spin later. fuck, thats a problem i'm having at the moment. i keep spinning too fast, and you have to throw your bike so you don't land on your back.
go at a speed you'd try a 540 at (or imagine doing a 540 at). pull back, and look straight back. dont turn your head or you'll die. keep you center of gravity between your bars and seat, dont lean against the bars or you'll come down with a lot force on your back wheel.

by the way ss-stp1'06;m your sig "How to approach a new jump- "Go so freaking fast you can't stop in time even if you wanted to" is fucking hilarious

[sawtell]

wtf. thats stupid. you dont want to pedal as fast as you can and just spin crazy then learn to slow your spin later.

who said pedal as fast as you can?? i sure didnt..

Your telling me you will go to try a backflip by jumping than pulling back after you leave the lip..
That works real great at hurting your self, but sadly that technique aint gunna help ya in landing flips..

I said PUMP, you know, push into the kicker, follow the kickers path.
At the end you should be starting to be spinning..

If any one here can hop on a bike and say i am going to do a flip half way through the air, with out starting the flip on the kicker.. i will give them 5 bucks.

[Disturbed.Rider]

If any one here can hop on a bike and say i am going to do a flip half way through the air, with out starting the flip on the kicker.. i will give them 5 bucks.

*Sits on bike and says 'I am going to do a flip half way through the air, with out starting the flip on the kicker'*

PM me for my address so you can send me that $5....


But back on topic, 360s might be harder to spin, but what would you rather do; under-rotate a 360 and high side it or land on your head?
DO NOT try a backflip unless you can do it into water (deep water) or a foam pit, its jut not worth it.

[frenchman]

One thing also you need to try and do if possible. Try and learn on a ramp that will be similar to the one you are going to commit to. This will make it alot easier to do and will put your mind at rest as it will feel the same as teh ramp that you are practicing on, whether it be into foam or water. also if you want put a little bit of foam on your landing( this will just put your mind at rest incase shit really does hit the fan and you bail(But whilst it will put your mind at ease, the small bit of foam in perspective will do nothing if you are going to land on your head. in fact it will only hinder you as when you land the flip you will stall but momentum will spit you forward and you will go over the bars at a very slow speed.)

When u go for it the first time u want it to feel the same as if you were doing into the pit/water, so adjust your speed/roation accordingly as if you were hitting your foam/water setup).

Try not to pump the take off to hard, as this can force teh bike to be spat out from under you as you are upside down, this is NOT good. As the rotation speed of the bike has sped up drastically as you left the lip (because you pumpd so hard) you scannot adapt to it and the bike leaves your feet and you Faceplant.

Once you have mastered actually doing them start pissing about with speed. General rule of thumb the faster you hit the jump the slower u want to spin. (in general) Also when you go faster you generally tend to go higher.

Another tip which i cannot emphasise enough is learn to bail. My god learn to bail. If anything feels shit just bail. Usually i bail when the nose is pointing down and i feel as if i am underroatating. This way as long as i havent left it to late i can jump over the bars and into a roll. Havent yet over rotated so i have no idea what to do when that happens.

my 2 cents

[jimmy_22]

my friend and i were trying backflips today. it didnt work out to well, i landed on my back and the bike fell on me, this happened every attempt i took

[$$$_Dirt_Jumper_$$$]

thanks for the help cortinabloke and everyone else.....

I'm in the process of getting a wooden ramp built for me an then i will be attemping backflips once that is done ......

thanks for all your help......

[Disturbed.Rider]

thanks for the help cortinabloke and everyone else.....

I'm in the process of getting a wooden ramp built for me an then i will be attemping backflips once that is done ......

thanks for all your help......



You'd better be inviting me to that! :D

[Wattsy]

Foam pit. Best way not to get screwed.

[always on 1]

360 easyer than backflip?? that means i can back flip, 360 are puss (and im 14) ive thought about back flips many of times just dont wana diebut oh well.:D

[trail_boss]

haha this thread is so lame! the first two post are so funny.

[EDDIE boy]

very true. to the person that wants to flip its copmitment u can do the squat position all want but if u dont commit to it ur fucked so ether balls up and do it or dont

[bunya_freerider]

is there any foam bits in brisbane?