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johnny
29-09-2006, 03:08 PM
China carries out test of fusion reactor
(AP)
Updated: 2006-09-29 07:50
http://www.chinadaily.com.cn/china/2006-09/29/content_699224.htm
BEIJING - Scientists on Thursday carried out China's first successful test of an experimental fusion reactor, powered by the process that fuels the sun, a research institute spokeswoman said.

China, the United States and other governments are pursuing fusion research in hopes that it could become a clean, potentially limitless energy source. Fusion produces little radioactive waste, unlike fission, which powers conventional nuclear reactors.


The Experimental Advanced Superconducting Tokamak fusion device, nicknamed "artificial sun", is tested at the Institute of Plasma Physics under the Chinese Academy of Sciences in Hefei, capital city of east China's Anhui Province September 28, 2006. Chinese scientists on Thursday successfully conducted the first test of an experimental thermonuclear fusion reactor, which replicates the same energy generation process that fuels the sun, Xinhua News Agency reported. [Reuters]

Beijing is eager for advances, both for national prestige and to reduce its soaring consumption of imported oil and dirty coal.

The test by the government's Institute of Plasma Physics was carried out on a Tokamak fusion device in the eastern city of Hefei, said Cheng Yan, a spokeswoman at the institute.

Cheng said the test was considered a success because the reactor produced plasma, a hot cloud of supercharged particles. She wouldn't give other details.

"This represents a step for humankind in the study of nuclear reaction," she said.

U.S. and other scientists have been experimenting with fusion for decades but it has yet to be developed into a viable energy alternative.

"I think it is a considerable step ahead for China," said Karl Heinz Finken, a senior scientist at the Institute for Plasma Physics in Juelich, Germany, who had no role in the Chinese research.

"China is speeding up with the development of nuclear fusion and I think at the moment they are making considerable progress," he said.

The Chinese facility is similar to the International Thermonuclear Experimental Reactor, or ITER, being built by a seven-nation consortium in Cadarache in southern France, according to state media. That reactor is due to be completed in 2015.

China is a partner in the ITER reactor, along with the European Union, the United States, Japan, Russia, India and South Korea.

A Tokamak reactor uses a doughnut-shaped magnetic field to contain the hot gas.

Several countries have produced plasma using a Tokamak or similar device, said Gabriel Marbach, deputy head of fusion research at the ITER facility. He said producing plasma was only one step toward the fusion that ITER aims to perform, and that the project could be helped by the Chinese experiments.

"It was important for China to show that it is part of the club, and that adds value to its participation in ITER," Marbach said.

"That is not to say that it is at the level of the Europeans or Americans," he said. However, he added, "We are rather admiring of the Chinese for conducting this test. It was conducted well, and they constructed (the machine) rather quickly."

China is the world's No. 2 oil consumer and its No. 3 importer, consuming at least 3.5 million barrels of foreign oil per day last year.

China plans to build dozens of nuclear power plants and is trying to promote use of cleaner alternative energy sources such as natural gas, wind power and methanol made from corn.

S.
29-09-2006, 03:18 PM
When China gets its faeces sorted in the next couple of decades, I think the rest of the world is going to look like it's sitting in the stone age.

shirtz
29-09-2006, 07:32 PM
nice one. im surprised the big oil companys havent put a lid on this kinda research. i spose that they too have to look for other forms of energy too.

johnny
29-09-2006, 07:46 PM
Not sure how much weight I put behind oil company conspiracies, but either way, they don't hold any sway in China.

T-Bone
29-09-2006, 07:46 PM
A successful, clean and fully operational fusion reactor has been the holy grail of energy research. This could truly change the world as we know it.

Drizz
29-09-2006, 08:47 PM
Lets hope they don't decided to make "fireworks" with it.......

Christo
29-09-2006, 08:52 PM
Lets hope they don't decided to make "fireworks" with it.......

You didn't understand the article did you?;)

Drizz
29-09-2006, 08:57 PM
You didn't understand the article did you?;)

Actually I did, but that wasn't what I was referring to.

Chinese discover gunpowder first, but they only build crude mortars. The most successful use of gunpowder are fireworks.

Ivan
29-09-2006, 09:13 PM
When China gets its faeces sorted in the next couple of decades, I think the rest of the world is going to look like it's sitting in the stone age.

Amen to that. Could it be possible that a communist nation would be the most productive scientifically in these times? I have often thought that the westerns current system, of small cells of scientists working in competing laboratories, was inefficient. Perhaps China's ability to focus such large amounts of resources and scientists (working together) on common goals is the way forward.

To read this makes me happy. I have been worried about what sort of focus China would take with regard to providing for its humongous appetite for resources and energy.

Not sure how much weight I put behind oil company conspiracies, but either way, they don't hold any sway in China.

Thank god for that.

on a side note: I heard a rumor ages ago about Chinese buses using ceramic engine blocks, which is apparently a patent held by oil companies.... anyone know if there is any truth to this?

NCR600
29-09-2006, 09:17 PM
Interesting.

I was talking to some folks out Wallerawang & Mt Piper way recently who were telling me about how the Chinese are always visiting their powerstations and investigating how to make their own coal fired units more 1) efficient and 2) more environmentally friendly (apparently we lead the world in both aspects of coal fired powerstations, in China a powerstation the size of Wallerawang takes 1100 people per shift to run, Wallerawang takes 14, although there are always considerably more people on hand than that!)

When China decide to put up the prices on their global manufacturing, it will screw the rest of the world for some considerable time. They have the capability now, but need to put decent QC procedures in place first.

Superman
30-09-2006, 10:27 AM
nice one. im surprised the big oil companys havent put a lid on this kinda research. i spose that they too have to look for other forms of energy too.

Yeah exactly, they may be funding this type of thing, buying into it, because everyone should know that the worlds oil resources will run out, and these companys need somewhere to go.

finny_447
30-09-2006, 10:34 AM
I wonder what type of material they used to contain the fusion? I can't remeber exactly but I think that was one of the major problems finding something to with stand the heat of the fusion of the atoms (not sure though).

Hopper
30-09-2006, 11:34 AM
The whole system is held in a magnetic field, the temperature at which plasma forms is some ridiculously high temperature and for fusion to occur it's even higher, something like 1000000 degrees Kelvin. I don't think we know any materials that can withstand such a temperature.