View Full Version : Sprockets for BMX
Streetr
05-11-2006, 05:12 PM
I'm going to gat a Profile Imperial sprocket and i was just wandering how many teeth i should get. I'm going to be dirt jumping if that helps
taylor-91
05-11-2006, 05:21 PM
how many teeth do you have on your driver or freewheel do you have onn your rear wheel?, normally the most popular gearing is 13-36(which is 13teeth on the back and 36t on the sprocket)
TIMOH
05-11-2006, 05:30 PM
36-16
25-9
30-11
etc
what rear do you have?
Streetr
05-11-2006, 05:32 PM
I'm currently running 44 on the front and 16 on the freewheel
taylor-91
05-11-2006, 05:56 PM
I'm currently running 44 on the front and 16 on the freewheel
The best thing to do would probably be to get a new freewheel with less teeth so that your sprocket isnt so big, odyssey make a 13t freewheel which means you could run 36t sprocket, and the gearing will still feel the same http://www.odysseybmx.com/catalog/index.php?image=7_13tfreewheel.jpg&list=Wheels&page=1
Streetr
05-11-2006, 06:12 PM
This is the one i was thinking about. It comes in 36t or 44t. It is the profile Blackjack.
http://www.albes.com/index.asp?PageAction=VIEWPROD&ProdID=196
buy a 13t freewheel for the back, and a 36t sprocket. that'll make it pretty much as small as it will go, but with the correct gear ratio. but i think for trails and park, its easier to ride one gear down.
and if you were to get a 36, don't get snafu, they suck. the teeth eat themselves away. i had an odyssey utility 36t, was very good
user name
05-11-2006, 07:08 PM
When buying a new freewheel of driver you must remember that youll need a flip-flop hub to put the smaller sprocked on, other wise your looking at a new hub/wheel as well:eek:
My advice is to stay with the original freewheel and only change the sprocket, its cheaper that way;) .
Depending on your budget, I would either:
1. Buy the 13t freewheel and a 36t sprocket
or if you have a lot of money:
2. Buy a whole wheel with a cassette hub, a chrome rim and a 10t driver, then get a 28t sprocket. (will be very expensive) However, you don't really need micro gearing for dirt jumping.
Streetr
05-11-2006, 07:48 PM
Right now i'm only looking at the sprocket but may change the freewheel in the future. I wasn't really intending on buying a new freewheel or hub.
Right now i'm only looking at the sprocket but may change the freewheel in the future. I wasn't really intending on buying a new freewheel or hub.
You can't just change the freewheel in the future unless you get another new sprocket....
Streetr
08-11-2006, 07:43 PM
This may seem stupid but why?
TIMOH
08-11-2006, 07:45 PM
your ratio is going to be off.
Jordy
08-11-2006, 07:47 PM
This may seem stupid but why?
He is wrong. old mate will be fine to run a small sprocket and change his freewheel to suit later on. but a 36-16 gearing will pedal rather easy for the time being.
hubbie
08-11-2006, 08:42 PM
you won't fit a 13t on most hubs that came with a 16t. You'll need a flip flop hub to run a 13t, or a cassette hub to run as low as 12. I would suggest a new rear hub if you plan on getting a smaller sprocket, otherwise i wouldn't change sizes.
Jordy
08-11-2006, 08:54 PM
you won't fit a 13t on most hubs that came with a 16t. You'll need a flip flop hub to run a 13t, or a cassette hub to run as low as 12. I would suggest a new rear hub if you plan on getting a smaller sprocket, otherwise i wouldn't change sizes.
ahhh yea
thats a good point. if ur planning on changing your freewheel make sure its a 1/2 inch hub instead of 3/4's or wateva the sizes are...if not. your stuck with a 16, I'd save cash and get a Tufneck style cassette hub which are fairly cheap.
shmeado
09-11-2006, 08:22 AM
a cassette hub to run as low as 12.
I dont get it lewis? Cassette hubs can run 8t on the back.
E-thugin
09-11-2006, 09:21 AM
^^^^^^^^^
depends what brand of hub....
is it 8 tooth now?? i thought it was only 9tooth?
TIMOH
09-11-2006, 10:19 AM
theres a 6 Im fairly sure
roasted
09-11-2006, 10:30 AM
8t is in production, 6t prototype.
I wouldnt go any smaller than nine. you're already pushing to get a 25t on your cranks. + The additional chain stresse would not be worth the (marginal) weight loss and (marginal) extra clearance.
E-thugin
09-11-2006, 11:13 AM
with a six you would end up getting chain rub on ur chainstays... coz it would be to close i reckon... the only way to get a chainring on the crank to match the ratio would be to make a new crank set with the sprocket fixxing bolt closer to the b/b.. if u get what i mean:)
I still think its a load of shit about getting to much chain stress with smaller gearing..
roasted
09-11-2006, 12:46 PM
There was a G-sport article on it, the stresse involved are ridiculous, Ill try and dig it up.
melbourne rider
09-11-2006, 03:28 PM
36-16
25-9
30-11
etc
what rear do you have?
wrong!!!!!!!!!
25-9 = yes
30-11 = yes
36-16 WTF???????? its 44-16
so....
43/44 - 16
39 - 14
36 - 13
33 - 12
30 - 11
28 - 10
25 - 9
22/23 - 8
E-thugin
10-11-2006, 12:02 AM
There was a G-sport article on it, the stresse involved are ridiculous, Ill try and dig it up.
..i still think 25-9 is as good & strong as anything. ive had no hassles with it for the past 2 years.
if you could find the article & post it up, that would be good.
im interested to to see...
with a 6 they would have to re-design the chain & cog with smaller links & teeth... a normal chain wouldnt bend nicely around a cog so small..
hubbie
10-11-2006, 08:23 AM
I dont get it lewis? Cassette hubs can run 8t on the back.
I'm not talking 1pce drivers, i'm just talking regular cheaper cassette hubs.
Ultimately i'd use either a 30 or 28t sprocket (coupled with 10 or 11t driver) for the best compromise between strength and size
TIMOH
10-11-2006, 08:27 AM
Sorry, wasnt thinking, 36-13.. 36-16 is way too easy to pedal, my mate ran it temporarily
Streetr
13-11-2006, 02:42 PM
Do you think that i should get the 44t or get the 36t and get a new cassette hub?
E-thugin
13-11-2006, 03:27 PM
if u have enough $$$ get a cassete hub.. u will probably need new spokes aswell if the hub flanges are different..
get what ever size u want, i reckon smaller sprockets look better..
if ya getting a new hub go for a 25
taylor-91
13-11-2006, 03:28 PM
if you have the money for a cassette hub and sprocket go for that, the hub will work alot better than your previous one and give you bike a better look with the smaller gearing:D
E-thugin
13-11-2006, 03:31 PM
oh i forgot to add..
i would NEVER use a freewheel on my bike... they break to easy & slip..
cassette hubs a generaly strong & reliable N easy to service
MUGEN
13-11-2006, 03:42 PM
Do you think that i should get the 44t or get the 36t and get a new cassette hub?
if ur gonna get a cassette hub u might aswell go smaller simply because you can
Streetr
19-11-2006, 11:23 AM
Any one know which cassette to get eg: oddesy. They've got to be under about $120 AUS.
mike-
19-11-2006, 12:18 PM
There's been quite alot of talk in here about thr 13t freewheels that have just come out on the market.
And I say DON'T BUY THEM.
I have tryed the oddysse 13t freewheel, and I have also tryed a cheaper brand that was the exact same to the oddysse (I'm sure it was from the same factory). Anyway both of them shagged it in only a few weeks or riding.
I have never done it do a claws or even a dictor frwweheel, but these ones just strip.
Admitidly I race bmx and each time it happened was out the gate when you put alot of pressure on your sprockets and chain (and cranks, lol stripped a few of them aswell).
It may be ok for just a dirt jumper or street rider, but for racing I think I will have to go cassete to be safer.
PS. Yes it hurts when they strip... it's like you do half a crank then you chain falls off, in the perfect position to smack your knees on your head set, and balls on ya bars.
Mr Sparkle
19-11-2006, 01:44 PM
..i still think 25-9 is as good & strong as anything. ive had no hassles with it for the past 2 years.
if you could find the article & post it up, that would be good.
im interested to to see...
with a 6 they would have to re-design the chain & cog with smaller links & teeth... a normal chain wouldnt bend nicely around a cog so small..
You would need to run a half link, so that the chain actually goes around the cog. Correct me if i'm wrong.
mark.
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