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Hey, does anyone know of a place where i can find some good North Shore in sydney?.
Commander Dilsnikk
10-01-2004, 04:45 PM
build it??
what is the obsession with north shore stuff anyway? i'm seriously interested... you ride it a few times and it's old so you build more...
personally i'd rather spend my time finding and riding multiple lines on a DH track
oh well... each to their own
It just looks like a nice challenge. Iv done a bit on saw hourses i set up in my back yard that was a bit of fun. Its also good to have some variety in your riding, like put the NS in the dh track.
Yup, just head east of Wahroonga until you see the mansions and luxry cars, then you'll be in the North Shore.
OOhhhh, you mean trail constructions? Either build it, or make friends with the trail builders, because right now I don't think people are too keen on letting others know where their secret trails are, especially on a public forum.
Daver
10-01-2004, 06:08 PM
ditto...
and what is the point of "northshore" in Australia anyway... we don't have storms that come through pine forests and knock down all the trees, meaning that the trails must be rebuilt every storm, and that the only way to get over the logs is by making bridges... DO WE?
I dunno, we have really wet, tacky soil that's sensitive to erosion, as well as in Autumn we have foot-high layers of leaf litter. Plus the constant rain that always makes things hard to ride on ground level.
It just looks like a nice challenge. Iv done a bit on saw hourses i set up in my back yard that was a bit of fun. Its also good to have some variety in your riding, like put the NS in the dh track.
PLEASE don't put NS stuff in DH tracks unless it is absolutely necessary. Nothing wrecks flow like that stuff.
dh dreamer
10-01-2004, 06:18 PM
i wish there was some n/s around syd
Agent Orange
10-01-2004, 06:28 PM
Yup, just head east of Wahroonga until you see the mansions and luxry cars, then you'll be in the North Shore.
OOhhhh, you mean trail constructions? Either build it, or make friends with the trail builders, because right now I don't think people are too keen on letting others know where their secret trails are, especially on a public forum.
i live in wahroonga
build it??
what is the obsession with north shore stuff anyway? i'm seriously interested... you ride it a few times and it's old so you build more...
Same obsession as jumping the same dirt jumps over and over again, its fun, and requires a little bit more skill. Besides, its always fun to upgrade, modify, lines on your NS, personally, I want to build a northshore at the start of a DH, like on a flat, then at the end of the NS have a nice drop with a smooth tranny which begins the downhill section so you get a nice run in. I also have a pretty good place in mind to build it.
No one is really going to post their shore tracks simply because people break them, then don't fix them thus the tracks get ruined.
What I REALLY want to create is a hybrid track, bit of 4 cross, some hucks maybe, bit of shore stuff, and of course downhill.
build it??
what is the obsession with north shore stuff anyway? i'm seriously interested... you ride it a few times and it's old so you build more...
personally i'd rather spend my time finding and riding multiple lines on a DH track
oh well... each to their own
You've obviously never ridden on good stunts, which admittedly I have never seen in Australia. Take a trip to north van and tell me if you get bored of the feeling you get dropping 13 feet to a sweet tranny.
PLEASE don't put NS stuff in DH tracks unless it is absolutely necessary. Nothing wrecks flow like that stuff.
You've been riding on poorly built NS tracks. Nothing wrecks flow in a track like putting in a corner, jump, log, rock, drop or anything else in a position that isn't suitable for maintaining speed.
I've said it before, and for some reason I like to go on about it coz it bugs me when people bag out stunts. All the stunts I've seen over here are shit. Go ride the real shit and tell me it sucks. I'm no help because I haven't built anything myself (that's still around), but don't go bagging something if you haven't done the real thing.
Shore is one of the hardest things to master. particularly when u see guys jump from one plank to another. Don't go dissing it just because u dont like it because other might BTW im not having a go at anyone
Techno Destructo
11-01-2004, 02:11 PM
Take a trip to north van and tell me if you get bored of the feeling you get dropping 13 feet to a sweet tranny.
I'm with Kram on this. My oldest friend, who's a rep for brodie, lives at the bottom of Fromme on the north shore of Vancouver (see "birthplace of north shore riding"). Lucky bastard only has to pedal one block before he's at the mecca of NS riding.
I went back to Canada with the wife, and having been a long time MTB'er, but never actually rode any "shore" stuff, well... it was almost a religous experience. The most amazing man-made stuff is in those woods, and most of it is pretty bomb-proof.
dilsnikk, if you ever get the chance to ride the "real thing" (as in, the actual north shore of Vancouver), you'd probably become a believer too!
That said, while DH is great for speed and distance air, NS is great for balance and height air. Just a different kind of fun. But if you think trials is a dumb sport (not saying that you would), you'd probably would never like NS.
Here's an interesting notion. For all you Sydney riders who frequent Manly Dam from time to time, there's one section beside the Wakehurst Parkway that is presently closed, since a downhill section in it is pretty badly eroded. It's the one that gives you a good view of the golf course. Anyway, tough area to fix, due to it's grade. Hugh Flowers (from Bike Addiction and the author of "Trails Australia: 2002 - Sydney Edition") mentioned that a solution being considered is to create some kind of NS structures to get down it so the slope is spared from further erosion.
Imagine that!
Pluses: North Shore structures funded by the government, sanctioned by the parks and built professionally and with the best materials.
Negatives: If the idea ever came to fruition, it would probably be made so easy (for liability reasons) that your grandma could ride this "stunt".
Disclaimer: This entire thread is just me talking, and the conversation I had with Hugh was just chatting and NOTHING official!
Commander Dilsnikk
11-01-2004, 03:03 PM
i probably should have explained myself better...
i'm talking about the majority of stuff that we find in australia
hell... i'd like nothing more than to spend some time in the real shore!!!
it's just that any attempts at stunts i've ever ridden in australia (and perhaps i'm generalising because i obviously haven't ridden it all) have absolutely no appeal to me
and i'm not blaming riders/ builders... it's kinda hard to build anything worthwhile when it'll just get knocked down by rangers, etc.
Glenn
11-01-2004, 03:08 PM
if it goes down i like it....
if it goes down i like it....What if it's rickety and falls down?
PLEASE don't put NS stuff in DH tracks unless it is absolutely necessary. Nothing wrecks flow like that stuff.
You've been riding on poorly built NS tracks. Nothing wrecks flow in a track like putting in a corner, jump, log, rock, drop or anything else in a position that isn't suitable for maintaining speed.
I've said it before, and for some reason I like to go on about it coz it bugs me when people bag out stunts. All the stunts I've seen over here are shit. Go ride the real shit and tell me it sucks. I'm no help because I haven't built anything myself (that's still around), but don't go bagging something if you haven't done the real thing.
I agree with what you're saying, perhaps I generalised a bit too much there. Most people construct pretty shit NS stuff over here, as you said yourself. I would say at least 90% of it just shouldn't be there. On top of that, we don't have anything like the need for ladderbridges and stuff that the real Shore does. I'm not bagging stunts because I think they suck, it's just that nearly all the stuff here is useless and/or poorly built, and I think that most people are likely to make a track worse rather than better, by putting it in. And yes, putting in an ill-placed jump/corner/drop/whatever detracts from the flow as well.
I think people need to take a step back and look at what they're really aiming to acheive when they do trail constructions.
I think people need to take a step back and look at what they're really aiming to acheive when they do trail constructions.
Yep, brag about it on a forum. If you can't do that, it wasn't worth building.
Ahh yes, but that's why you need to analyse your goals. Bragging is nothing without pictures.
On a side note, I think it should be law that any "freeride" orientated bike should come equipped with a pocket tape measure, and a user guide on how to measure drops and gaps properly.
Mahoney_007
11-01-2004, 06:32 PM
I'd rather a nice plank of wood nailed to a fallen tree stump rather than "lets build up a mound of sticks and dirt in front of it" .
NS rocks my socks I love it
Oh Rik if its above my head its pretty close to 6 foot, thats about the extent of my measuring ha
smooth
12-01-2004, 03:46 PM
me and my mates have the same prob , not much NS round and most of wat is , is sadly sub-par. So wev decide to go int the bush and start our own. There are two good things bout buliding your own 1. you put in wat you want. 2. not many others ppl ride it so it wont get trashed.
I wouldnt have a prob with others riddin it if they fixed wat they broke (even if its knoking a plank back into place with a rock) but no one dose!
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