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Rik
16-01-2004, 10:15 PM
Finally the FRM frame I bought is in my posession.
Initial thoughts: What a weapon of a bike! 4.3kg for frame and shock, but you'll see why...
It does look a bit "agricultural", lacking the smooth lines some bikes have, but fark it's overbuilt, and the attention to detail is impressive.
To start with, the frame
http://www.farkin.net/forums/album_pic.php?pic_id=3971
http://www.farkin.net/forums/album_pic.php?pic_id=3972

Then the detail, such as mega headtube gusseting
http://www.farkin.net/forums/album_thumbnail.php?pic_id=3973 (http://www.farkin.net/forums/album_pic.php?pic_id=3973)

Seattube gusset, which, as with above, is an "open throat" design, which I've been led to beleive is a much better design than closing them up.
http://www.farkin.net/forums/album_thumbnail.php?pic_id=3981 (http://www.farkin.net/forums/album_pic.php?pic_id=3981)

CNC'd shock mounts with huge amounts of beef:
http://www.farkin.net/forums/album_thumbnail.php?pic_id=3975 (http://www.farkin.net/forums/album_pic.php?pic_id=3975) http://www.farkin.net/forums/album_thumbnail.php?pic_id=3978 (http://www.farkin.net/forums/album_pic.php?pic_id=3978)

CNC'd dropouts and pivot mounts
http://www.farkin.net/forums/album_thumbnail.php?pic_id=3980 (http://www.farkin.net/forums/album_pic.php?pic_id=3980)

Where the CNC'd bits meet tubing it's reinforced
http://www.farkin.net/forums/album_thumbnail.php?pic_id=3979 (http://www.farkin.net/forums/album_pic.php?pic_id=3979)

Now, what to put on this bike? I've got a good idea of spec floating in my head... Sherman Sliders, a 4way out back, SRAM driveline, everything Aireal make, Liquid cranks, and some other stuff. Brakes, bars, stem, seatpost are about the only unsure items, but they're only minor anyway.

I've made a start on the wheels, running Aireal hubs
http://www.farkin.net/forums/album_thumbnail.php?pic_id=3982 (http://www.farkin.net/forums/album_pic.php?pic_id=3982)
on doublewides
http://www.farkin.net/forums/album_thumbnail.php?pic_id=3983 (http://www.farkin.net/forums/album_pic.php?pic_id=3983)
but need to pull apart both current wheelsets and rebuild them together.

It'll be an interesting few months ahead of me, as I scrape together the cash to do this, I do know that no corners will be cut, even if it means not riding for a few weeks, I'm gunna do it right first time and it'll be worth it!
junior
16-01-2004, 10:17 PM
very nice the wheels are awsome
CHEWY
16-01-2004, 10:22 PM
http://www.farkin.net/forums/album_thumbnail.php?pic_id=3981

Seattube gusset, which, as with above, is an "open throat" design, which I've been led to beleive is a much better design than closing them up.


it is a heap better desing than welding across the tube. The old MkI and II Gimp frame were welded across the tube on the headtube/downtube gusset on the underneath of the downtube. it made a weak spot in the otherwise structurally sound downtube in a high stress area and a heap of their frames bent/cracked there. Now they run the "open throat" desing.

nice frame btw..
Rik
16-01-2004, 10:23 PM
Yeh, that's what my thinking was, it's ok to weld parallel with tubes, but as soon as you weld perpendicular, especially with a tough gusset, it's asking for the frame to fold around it.
S.
16-01-2004, 10:25 PM
Beeeeeeefcake!
Adi
16-01-2004, 10:31 PM
So thats what my 80 bucks are paying for eh Rik... should look pimp when built up. Have fun :)

EDIT: Forgot to add, I hate you 8)!
CHEWY
16-01-2004, 10:32 PM
Yeh, that's what my thinking was, it's ok to weld parallel with tubes, but as soon as you weld perpendicular, especially with a tough gusset, it's asking for the frame to fold around it.

exactly, if you think about the way in which the forces from the HT are pulling on the DT, its no wonder a few of em carked it..
ill try and find some pics of one
CHEWY
16-01-2004, 10:50 PM
http://www.pinkbike.com/modules/photo/?op=view&image=65084
same deal with the old PX bommers..
the weld across on the bottem gusset cracked, the downtube snapped in half cleanly. The TT crumpled and then snapped at the weld across on the TT gusset..now theres a job for grip!
LTR
16-01-2004, 11:26 PM
that frame looks familiar...... hmm... :lol:

when you getting an avy? :P

youll enjoy it :wink:
..::JaReD::..
16-01-2004, 11:44 PM
thats cool i want it

and kermit is cool 2
Rik
17-01-2004, 06:52 AM
when you getting an avy? :P

When you buy one for me...
Otherwise, it'll be 4way swinger for me, good balance of price and performance, SPV front and rear will make for a very tunable bike.
LTR
17-01-2004, 07:41 AM
when you getting an avy? :P

When you buy one for me...
Otherwise, it'll be 4way swinger for me, good balance of price and performance, SPV front and rear will make for a very tunable bike.

:wink: Not a bad choice.....

what forks are you getting?? Boxxer??
tu plang
17-01-2004, 08:00 AM
when you getting an avy? :P

When you buy one for me...
Otherwise, it'll be 4way swinger for me, good balance of price and performance, SPV front and rear will make for a very tunable bike.

:wink: Not a bad choice.....

what forks are you getting?? Boxxer??

sliders i think he said
CHEWY
17-01-2004, 11:05 AM
whos frame was it?
Rik
17-01-2004, 05:21 PM
Gutty's old one. But if anyone else is impressed by this, jump on LiveToRides, with the extra linkages it transforms the bike... that's the reason I bought this, so much fun to be had changing everything around, going from a trail to "freeride" to DH bike by fiddling with linkages and shock settings. An all-rounder true to the term.

And yeh, probably get Sliders, moreso for SPV tuning capabilities front and rear. I may still be swayed towards a Boxxer with Mojo upgrade, still got some thinking to do.
j5ive
17-01-2004, 07:20 PM
sliders RIK> boxxers are evil.
Jordy
17-01-2004, 07:25 PM
i saw this at gutty's when i picked up my parts from him and it looks soooooooo sweet in the flesh with the linkage but it also had an avy then... get sliders
LTR
17-01-2004, 07:27 PM
i think sliders are winning !!

they have proved well... but so have boxxers...

mojo kit really makes a difference so you better consider that one !!

my 2c
17-01-2004, 07:27 PM
nice looks very nice..


but get new tyres for that doublewide please :D they are sooooo skinny
naz
17-01-2004, 07:56 PM
rik firstly the zaskars n now a dually, whats happened to u uve gone soft :S :P
jef13
17-01-2004, 08:40 PM
sweet farkin ride
RSC
17-01-2004, 08:42 PM
i want one, how much change out of 500 thou would you get!!
Rik
18-01-2004, 01:46 AM
but get new tyres for that doublewide please :D they are sooooo skinny
hah, that's what happens when you put a 1.8" tyre on a rim that's as wide as that!

And yeh Naz, I sorta have gone soft, my wrists are suffering from too many big hits, as are my knees, it's time to give myself some comfort. This "hardtail pride" shit is all great until your body starts getting knocked about.
LTR
18-01-2004, 12:09 PM
but get new tyres for that doublewide please :D they are sooooo skinny
hah, that's what happens when you put a 1.8" tyre on a rim that's as wide as that!

And yeh Naz, I sorta have gone soft, my wrists are suffering from too many big hits, as are my knees, it's time to give myself some comfort. This "hardtail pride" shit is all great until your body starts getting knocked about.

simple answer.... get titanium rods in you body.... that will keep you stiff !! (i think)

haha... the tyre... i didnt even realise !!
naz
18-01-2004, 12:14 PM
And yeh Naz, I sorta have gone soft, my wrists are suffering from too many big hits, as are my knees, it's time to give myself some comfort. This "hardtail pride" shit is all great until your body starts getting knocked about.
yep go back for warranty...
i fuked my thumb yesterday im pissed...
hmm but now ull be even slower up dem hills
_J_
18-01-2004, 08:35 PM
thats a sic frame dude. hope u get some good fun out of it!