Odessey elementary

[west aus rider]

hi,

im looking in to buying a elementary stem.
i was on the odessey site and they say u need a minumum of 36mm stear tube for it to work well.
I onl have 30mm on my stear tube.
can any one help me?
like, is any one runing a elementary stem with less then 36mm?
please help!!

thanks, West aus rider

[bmx]

get new forks, or get grip to extend it. probably better just to get new forks coz they're not much. i wouldn't run it ike that. mines like 2 mm too short, but just long enough

[wombat]

Do not try and run the elementary on your forks as is, you will bugger the stem.

The elementary is different in that rather than using the traditional pinch bolts to clamp the stem to the steerer along it's whole height, the chassis and the wedges kind of pinch the steerer (bad terminology, but it's late and I'm tired). The rails on the chassis aren't much more than 6mm wide, so if you were to run it on your current setup it simply wouldn't work, because the top rail of the chassis wouldn't make enough contact with the steerer to support the load.

I had a customer setup his elementary on a too-short steerer, and then wonder why it kept slipping; when he tightened the stem, the end of the steerer was ripping into the top rail bit and then pulling it up and over the top of the steerer.

My tip is to actually install the stem so it makes full contact with the steerer, and then use the little 2mm spacer under your top-cap, this way you make sure you have ample contact between stem and steerer.

I run one of these stems on my mtb and it's been flawless, but so many people don't take the time to set them up properly, and then have problems with them. Don't be one of those people.:)

[x]

My steerer tube on my old forks (stock fit flow ones) was too short for the elementary but I ran it anyway (about 2mm too short I think). When I took off the compression bolt, the top of the stem would pop off, it obviously wasn't good for the stem. Also, for some reason, the fork steerer tube was too thick for the stem, and I needed to sand the steerer down A LOT to get the stem on. But i have new forks now (sunday morning 2's) and the elementary slid straight on and it has plenty of steerer tube, I use one spacer.

As for your situation, I would suggest getting new forks if you can afford them, but if not, don't buy and elementary, get a shadow or animal stem or something.

Josh

[west aus rider]

how much are 41 thermals. or these sundays u tlk about...if i got 41 thermal dirt forks...wld it fit?

thanks for the help every1

[bmx]

any fork will. they'll cost you about $210 and if you don't cut them, they'll fit. unless you have some fucked up headtube thats a bizzillion cm's long

[monkeyonabike]

hey mate im pretty sure the 41's will fit, but i would advise not getting the stem, they look awesome but I had one and it was constantly coming loose

[bmx]

hey mate im pretty sure the 41's will fit, but i would advise not getting the stem, they look awesome but I had one and it was constantly coming loose

learn to look after it then. you'd gotta CRC the bolts and shit every so often. I've run a first generation and a V2, and havent had a problem. I've under-flipped onto the front wheel and nothings happened at all to the stem and bar positioning. People complain about them because they can't set them up right

[mtberdave]

learn to look after it then. you'd gotta CRC the bolts and shit every so often. I've run a first generation and a V2, and havent had a problem. I've under-flipped onto the front wheel and nothings happened at all to the stem and bar positioning. People complain about them because they can't set them up right

for like 2 days:p actualy i wanna see pics of how it looks u can use my photobucket again

nah i greads my forks and never had a problem just dont grease the bars clamp!!!!