Why do i Always Nose dive?

[Gone_4_A_Ride]

Hey guys i need a few pointers on how to jump steep jumps on a dulie. Everyone else who does the jump can do it clean but i always nose dive and the faster i hit it the more i nose dive. Any pointers on wat i should do?

Cheers

[GravityGuru]

Buy a hardtail ;), I had the same problem on my dually, It's just the kick from the back shock that sends the back up. You just have to try and compensate for it I guess. You could try increasing your rebound damping?

[bunya_DH]

yea I have the same problem but I think it might be because my forks weigh a fair bit, maybe buy some lighter forks and pull up and push down with your feet when you jump...

[Ingeniator]

Set your rebound slower
It will be harder to get the bike in the air, but when you do it will be with a lot more stability.

[Chalkie]

Maybe try to stop applying your front brake at the top of the lip? Took me a good 3 weeks to work this out.

Try seeting your rebound slower as said above. If that doesn't work it might be the jump and you just need to practice, practice, practice.

[|Matt|]

Set your rebound slower
It will be harder to get the bike in the air, but when you do it will be with a lot more stability.

Maybe try to stop applying your front brake at the top of the lip? Took me a good 3 weeks to work this out.

Try seeting your rebound slower as said above. If that doesn't work it might be the jump and you just need to practice, practice, practice.

Yes, it does sound like the rebound is out of whack, but the shock rebound, not forks. If you set the forks rebound slower, then you will just exacerbate the problem.

[arpit]

I had this happen to me a lot when I first got my dually - So much so that at the second downhill race I did, the person at the sign up desk remembered me as the guy who kept doing nose wheelies the last time :o


Almost every bump in the trail would kick my back wheel up. Since then, I've found that if you are in a situation where the back might kick up, you should push down and forwards with your feet. This brings your front up.


It works on my hardtail when doing drops, and it works on my dually when doing jumps.


Oh and I tuned the suspension on my dually too :) I use Drop off comp forks on my STP - When I first got my dually I had changed the settings on the Dorados so that they felt like the drop offs. I creanked the rebound damping up, and the compression damping to max...
Bit of a mistake :)

[dailywar]

just buy a hardtail. or pull back as hard as u can... your choice

[Matt H]

Haha, that reminds me of when I went jumping on the weekend and i forgot to turn the lockout on my forks off (this is on a 6" travel enduro) and when I hit up the first jump the rear end bounced but the forks stayed stiff and I swear I came |---| that close to biting it.

[Gone_4_A_Ride]

Thanks for the advice i'll give the compression damping a go.

Btw i already hav a hardtail which is used for dj but these jumps on the dulie are more freeride:p

[dwnhil4thewin]

hey mate ive done a fair bit of vert jumping on my dually while my hartail was being fixed and it kicked me over the front heaps to start with. All i did was adjust the rebound of the rear shock so that it was heaps slow and then it was sweet as. when the rebound is too quick it flicks the whole bike over before youve even left the lip of the jump so just slow it down and you'll be sweet. you shouldnt need to change anything with the forks or anything else.

[custard]

you nose dive because you are squid....

its natural
give it a few years and faceplants, and you'll correct it....

took me 2 seasons of racing to learn how to do a jump without landing in a nose manual..

[Air time erik]

And now you just dont race anymore, cause the squids have taken over muhahahahaah am i right custart

[longlivedownhill]

back brake in the air much

[Mahoney_007]

back brake in the air much


Yeah maybe he should just bleep the throttle a bit more on take off and give it a few twists mid air huh? Wrong kinda dually dont ya think? :p

[Trapz]

Less preload in your shock is the answer mate

[Viv92]

back brake in the air much

I'm afraid braking in the air doesn't do anything... :confused:

[|Matt|]

I'm afraid braking in the air doesn't do anything... :confused:

Yes it does.

Braking in the air causes the wheel that was stopped to go up (usually rear?). Have you not noticed in motocross races when they start to nose dive they accelerate to drop the back wheel?

[sworn rider]

ok so slow down the rebound...but wat about the compression, fast or slow?

[Giantrider]

yeh i had the same problem with my bike, i just slowed down the compression just enough, then i could hit jumps with out going over the bars

[matt.l]

I had the exact oposite problem with me. but i was on a hardtail,You just have to practise and get the setup right;)