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Chuckie
18-07-2007, 10:28 PM
Ok some mates and I have just started getting into DH/FR. we are progressing nicely at Oxford Falls and have found a nice line with some medium drops to make it to the bottom without stopping. This DH thing is addictive

There is a roll off drop about half way down the DH run that we cant bring ourselves to do. We have stood at the top discussing it and checking it out sometimes for 5-10 mins. we have watched heaps of riders just ride straight off it (on hard tails too) without even blinking an eye. I have seen some pretty sketchy landings tho

This is it here courtesy of another member that posted a pic

http://forums.farkin.net/attachment.php?attachmentid=73064

It is also at 1.19 of this video posted by another forum member

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=urQWfO-GBik&mode=related&search=

Now to those that know it, we can take the rocky drops and roll offs on the left & right of it without any issues, which look just as sketchy. we can session the rocky one on the right of it easily and have been told that this is actually harder than the one down the middle

Its the gap between the rock and the down ramp that freaks me out a bit. and the run up isnt great

Can anyone (who rides it frequently)give us some advice on the best technique to drop off this thing. i.e how much speed will I need and how much do you have to lift the front wheel etc? I keep seeing myself nose casing or not making the down ramp. Or do I just need to grow some bigger balls? Am I worried about nothing and should be able to just roll off it?

Advice would be appreciated cause I want to beat this thing!!

Thanks

arpit
18-07-2007, 10:31 PM
Just to be clear - I don't do this drop. I don't like drops. The risk of injury is too high for the satisfaction they provide.

However, if you want to do it, find a rider who can do it in their sleep, then follow them off it, matching their speed.

Squidly Didly
18-07-2007, 10:38 PM
Hey mate. I wouldn't worry about nose casing it eh. Most people that I ride with know that I'm the master of never getting my wheels of the ground and have the worst style (or lack thereof) when in the "air", but even I brake heavily coming into this drop.

Arpit's advice is good. I've looked at this drop several times but never actually hit it until I was with a train of riders and could match their speed coming into it. If the confidence still isn't there... Red Bull

Chuckie
18-07-2007, 10:45 PM
Just to be clear - I don't do this drop. I don't like drops. The risk of injury is too high for the satisfaction they provide.

However, if you want to do it, find a rider who can do it in their sleep, then follow them off it, matching their speed.

Oh but I gotta be able to hit it, I know I dont need to but it's become my "nemesis" and I really wnat to be able to do it for the sake of my progression as a rider. seeing 15 year olds doing it on hard tails doesn't help.

...oh and I luv the rush it gives me when I land something like this

Tell me its just a mental thing :confused:

dr.matt
18-07-2007, 10:51 PM
While i havn't ridden oxford falls, i can suggest reading issue 9 of revolution mag. Especially the article about confidence, where they have the opinion of 14 pro's about how they overcome a lack of it. (when they used to anyway)

Chuckie
18-07-2007, 10:54 PM
While i havn't ridden oxford falls, i can suggest reading issue 9 of revolution mag. Especially the article about confidence, where they have the opinion of 14 pro's about how they overcome a lack of it. (when they used to anyway)

Yes trust me I have read it over and over and relating it to this drop the whole time...

dr.matt
18-07-2007, 10:58 PM
Tell me its just a mental thing :confused:

Absolutely its a mental thing.
The biggest obstacle, besides the physical drop, is the rational part of your brain telling you maybe you shouldn't try it. From your 1st post it sounds like your getting there though, trying drops near-by, observing others and working your way up to it.

Do you wear body armour/gaurds? Because if you didnt, you could find wearing some could give you a bit more confidence to try it, knowing your padded up.....

Chuckie
18-07-2007, 11:07 PM
thanks Dr matt

yes, I have just bought a 661 SP2 pressure suit and was already wearing knee/shins with full face helmet

I must admit that each time I have looked at it (been to Oxford falls DH track 4 times now, rode it twice) it is looking leasss & less steep each time...I am almost there

Just would like to know the pros & cons & best technique used for this baby..

And if you have slammed on this drop ...what did you do wrong?

pedal pusher
18-07-2007, 11:20 PM
yeah thats what i would do if i had acsses to it pad up, your balls will feel bigger and your confidence boosted.

bikesarefun
19-07-2007, 12:15 AM
My thoughts:

Roll in, get comfortable. Slowly roll down over the little bump in the rock, about halfway down (you could probably even stop at this point if you wanted). Your should now be able to see the landing. Release brakes, preload. You are now on the landing.

But don't take this as the definitive answer - best thing is to look at it and imagine yourself doing it.

bens109
19-07-2007, 09:34 AM
Hey mate I actually took that picture and I am a better photographer than rider which doesn't say much!

I was also freaked out by the drop but as you say everybody else pins it no worries so basically I just manned up! Once you do it you will kick yourself as it is very easy :)

Don't go too fast, you basically just want to roll off the rock. Pretend the gap isn't even there and you won't even notice it, your momentum and angle rolling down the rock face is enough to hit the transition perfectly.

Hope that helps

trouble
19-07-2007, 09:49 AM
hey mate, adding on from other's replies... it really is a mental thing, I think you guys watched me and mate do and you took a photo? anyway I couldn't do it for ages, it just looked absolute sketch and I could see myself owned in about 20 different ways, it isn't hard and I mean it just be prepared for when you from the like 55 degree to horizontal a sort of g-out. Otherwise you can break all the way down the roll-down and just at the end let go and lean back a bit. Best idea said by other's is follow someone who does without thinking down, I don't think speed makes to much difference but the faster the more of a g-out it is. Even every time I go to oxford first run I always take it slowy first time but after it's always fine. Much easier than it looks, it really is. Like someone else said it really a mental thing, go get physced on some music or pumped however you do and just try not to think about it, just go behind a guy who does it maybe ask someone who does if you could follow them in,most people should be happy to, and just say in your head 'fuck it, Im just gonna do it!' and do it.
My advice anyway,thats how I did it....good luck

Chuckie
19-07-2007, 10:13 AM
Guys thanks for the responses, some good tips, I tthought most of it was mental but just wanted to make sure, rather be safe than sorry...time to man up I think!

Again those farkiners that responded you guys rock!

rell6103
19-07-2007, 11:04 AM
Ok some mates and I have just started getting into DH/FR. we are progressing nicely at Oxford Falls and have found a nice line with some medium drops to make it to the bottom without stopping. This DH thing is addictive

There is a roll off drop about half way down the DH run that we cant bring ourselves to do. We have stood at the top discussing it and checking it out sometimes for 5-10 mins. we have watched heaps of riders just ride straight off it (on hard tails too) without even blinking an eye. I have seen some pretty sketchy landings tho

This is it here courtesy of another member that posted a pic

http://forums.farkin.net/attachment.php?attachmentid=73064

It is also at 1.19 of this video posted by another forum member

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=urQWfO-GBik&mode=related&search=

Now to those that know it, we can take the rocky drops and roll offs on the left & right of it without any issues, which look just as sketchy. we can session the rocky one on the right of it easily and have been told that this is actually harder than the one down the middle

Its the gap between the rock and the down ramp that freaks me out a bit. and the run up isnt great

Can anyone (who rides it frequently)give us some advice on the best technique to drop off this thing. i.e how much speed will I need and how much do you have to lift the front wheel etc? I keep seeing myself nose casing or not making the down ramp. Or do I just need to grow some bigger balls? Am I worried about nothing and should be able to just roll off it?

Advice would be appreciated cause I want to beat this thing!!

Thanks

YEOW, both the video and the picture are me :p.

As Bens109 said, you will kick yourself when you finally do it because it is quite easy.
Come in to top at about walking pace, and then just let the brakes go. The drop looks much scarier from the bottom, from the top you barely even see the gap. Just when you get to the gap, pull up on the front a little bit and rest just happens.
In my video, i was perhaps going too fast but i wanted to make the video look good:rolleyes:

Good Luck
Rob

Chuckie
19-07-2007, 11:42 AM
wot about that rock sticking out on the down ramp, cause any probs?

rell6103
19-07-2007, 11:51 AM
wot about that rock sticking out on the down ramp, cause any probs?

To be honest, i never noticed the rocks before. You can't see them from the top, and if you pull up, the down ramp is really smooth. Bens109 didn't pull up on it and cased his rear wheel but its still well clear of the rock.

Chuckie
19-07-2007, 12:55 PM
Coolio! Thanks Rell. Nice photo & vid mate. Helps me visualize the samn thing

Anyone stacked it there or know of anyone that got owned there?

maybe I shouldn't ask that question?:rolleyes:

nicho
19-07-2007, 01:03 PM
Hey mate,

you done this yet.:p
http://homepage.mac.com/ozzemale/.Pictures/Photo%20Album%20Pictures/2007-05-08%2007.50.29%20-0700/Image-9B2BEB34FD7211DB.jpg

nah just kidding.that s on the lizard rock side by the way.

IN all honesty it is probably one of the best drops to lean how to land smooth.
Changes of you nose casing would have close to zero. unless you go at walking speed of a 1 year old.

I find that the easiest and the smoothest is to just as you roll slowly just slight lift your front wheel and you ll find that the rest will follow and yet i ve find that the more i lift the heavier my rear wheel is gonna feel on the landing. admitedly that landing has had better days too.
But quite frankly once you do you ll realize how easy and uncommiting it is.

good luck with it.

nicho

CraigS
19-07-2007, 01:43 PM
This is my first hit on Farkin so be nice. I did that drop for the first time last Sat and it was pretty smooth. Just as someone else said roll in at walking pace and let go of the brakes as you roll onto last bump, pull back slightly and enjoy the drop. I want to hit engine block next, that has a big gap. Check out my video of friend doing it at
www.youtube.com/watch?v=UCtYjqYxjMc
Cheers

Minical2233
19-07-2007, 03:54 PM
When i was there, i found it really easy, most of the guys i rode with found it easy. Like what someone said, you will kick yourself after and say why didnt i do that first go !
When i went off, i went off at a medium to slow pase and rolled in from the top, no brakes and went of the end in a manualing position like and land good both wheels, so was fine.
You should be right, i dought that you will nose case or stack of it, just role of and ule be good, but make sure you lift up abit before going off.

At Oxford, i found difficult was the big 11ft+ drop over past the step-up. The run in was hard because you had to turn then go straight off a fair desent huck.
I just went of it but it wasnt plesent first go, but i found it really hard to get it right and go off straight.
Thats all for me

Minical2233
19-07-2007, 03:56 PM
Hey mate,

you done this yet.:p
http://homepage.mac.com/ozzemale/.Pictures/Photo%20Album%20Pictures/2007-05-08%2007.50.29%20-0700/Image-9B2BEB34FD7211DB.jpg

nah just kidding.that s on the lizard rock side by the way.

IN all honesty it is probably one of the best drops to lean how to land smooth.
Changes of you nose casing would have close to zero. unless you go at walking speed of a 1 year old.

I find that the easiest and the smoothest is to just as you roll slowly just slight lift your front wheel and you ll find that the rest will follow and yet i ve find that the more i lift the heavier my rear wheel is gonna feel on the landing. admitedly that landing has had better days too.
But quite frankly once you do you ll realize how easy and uncommiting it is.

good luck with it.

nicho

I checked out Lizard when i was there, the downramp was really shitty and there was no take off, has to be fixed up, and who ever said it was 25ft, its bullshit, no where nere 25ft, its around 18 - 20ft drop, but not 25, still desent size drop thow !

nicho
19-07-2007, 04:17 PM
you sausagekinn no need to arch up!!! no one said it was 25 feet.
it s a fun drop but oh so useless.. you ll soon realize it s more interesting to be fast than who can huck the biggest.

i ve changed. jumps and gaps are fun but at high speed.

nicho

Minical2233
19-07-2007, 04:33 PM
you sausagekinn no need to arch up!!! no one said it was 25 feet.
it s a fun drop but oh so useless.. you ll soon realize it s more interesting to be fast than who can huck the biggest.

i ve changed. jumps and gaps are fun but at high speed.

nicho

rightio mate.
I wasnt skitting up, just saying it aint 25ft drop !

Chuckie
19-07-2007, 06:42 PM
"18-20ft drop" 'starts shivering':eek:

Minical2233
19-07-2007, 07:45 PM
"18-20ft drop" 'starts shivering':eek:

Well yeh, it is big lol, but aint really that big.
It looks big to the human eye, but to some people, it is possible on a bike, which it odviously is.
I have done 14ft and i didnt bottom out or didnt feel very big at all, it may seem big to the human eye but sometimes, its really not big on a bike, well once you have done it.
I think everyone noes that really, drops are possibly on a bike, i think 48ft or something was the biggest drop landed, ime not sure, duno, but yeh, drops do look big for the human eye, but not big for a bike, but gotta have balls to take your bike of something massive lol.
Anyway
Have you had a crack at that drop yet Chuckie ?

pin'd_it
19-07-2007, 08:08 PM
hey, i am in exactly the same position, i ride a hradtail. i sat at the top (so i could just see the bottom of the lander) for about 10 mins trying to pych myself up for it as we were filming and i wanted to get my first time. i didnt hit it and i dont need to make an excuse, i was just not confident that i could make it even after my mate hit it 4-5 times on his hardtail. but to me it seems that the longer you put it off the harder it is to pych up for it. but i have promised my mate that i will hit it next time we go. so hopefully thats soon.

andy

Chuckie
19-07-2007, 09:47 PM
Well yeh, it is big lol, but aint really that big.
It looks big to the human eye, but to some people, it is possible on a bike, which it odviously is.
I have done 14ft and i didnt bottom out or didnt feel very big at all, it may seem big to the human eye but sometimes, its really not big on a bike, well once you have done it.
I think everyone noes that really, drops are possibly on a bike, i think 48ft or something was the biggest drop landed, ime not sure, duno, but yeh, drops do look big for the human eye, but not big for a bike, but gotta have balls to take your bike of something massive lol.
Anyway
Have you had a crack at that drop yet Chuckie ?


It will have to wait til the weekend..I get goosebumps just thinking about it. To those that do it I know its sad, but I havent been riding for long so dont be too harsh

Chuckie
19-07-2007, 09:50 PM
hey, i am in exactly the same position, i ride a hradtail. i sat at the top (so i could just see the bottom of the lander) for about 10 mins trying to pych myself up for it as we were filming and i wanted to get my first time. i didnt hit it and i dont need to make an excuse, i was just not confident that i could make it even after my mate hit it 4-5 times on his hardtail. but to me it seems that the longer you put it off the harder it is to pych up for it. but i have promised my mate that i will hit it next time we go. so hopefully thats soon.

andy

Yeah I agree, last time I was there I looked at it and said "yep, do-able" but then my mate and I started looking at it and discussing it for too long and psyched ourselves out

Does anyone else think the drop to the right of it is sketchier? The one next to it with the rocky chute for a landing

Daver
19-07-2007, 09:54 PM
Yeah I agree, last time I was there I looked at it and said "yep, do-able" but then my mate and I started looking at it and discussing it for too long and psyched ourselves out

Does anyone else think the drop to the right of it is sketchier? The one next to it with the rocky chute for a landing

The drop to the right is pretty much 'undroppable' now from the erosion on the landing. Rolling it isn't easy because of the erosion too. IMO its far easier to hit up the left line.

ridefast_dieyoung
20-07-2007, 09:55 AM
Well yeh, it is big lol, but aint really that big.
It looks big to the human eye, but to some people, it is possible on a bike, which it odviously is.
I have done 14ft and i didnt bottom out or didnt feel very big at all, it may seem big to the human eye but sometimes, its really not big on a bike, well once you have done it.
I think everyone noes that really, drops are possibly on a bike, i think 48ft or something was the biggest drop landed, ime not sure, duno, but yeh, drops do look big for the human eye, but not big for a bike, but gotta have balls to take your bike of something massive lol.
Anyway
Have you had a crack at that drop yet Chuckie ?


That post was quite a lot to read for the human eye.. :)

Mo
20-07-2007, 05:09 PM
i have found that whenever i see myself thinking about doing a drop or a jump , i will either case it or not even attempt it.

when riding a proper track like those, i know that there is someone that has built those drops knowingly for others to be able to make it.

i can't tell from this pic of even the video how it looks, but i can assure you that the more you think about it the harder it will become.

considering you have all the protective gear required and a proper bike then hit it.

B1KR BOI
20-07-2007, 05:31 PM
I pedal slowly into it until it gets between the trees and tighter, then i roll from there and just before the rock starts to slope down i pull my bars up and the bike just sinks into the landing smooth as.

Greg

Chuckie
22-07-2007, 12:25 PM
Guys today we HIT IT!! several times. I am psyched. we also hit some other stuff further on which we were planning on doing later :D

Damn rain killed our fun tho.:mad:

Thank you for everyones advice.

We got there and said fark it we are going and used the advice u guys gave us. i.e roll up slowly , let go of the brakes and the bike will do the rest for you!! Which the IH Sunday did beautifully

You guys were right, it is so mental, almost like there isnt a gap at all

Thanks again, you have all helped my progession

Chuckie
23-07-2007, 01:40 PM
by the way...does this make us 'Huckers' now?

Squidly Didly
23-07-2007, 01:43 PM
by the way...does this make us 'Huckers' now?
Only if you pushed off the take off point, landed back wheel first, and head-slapped so hard your helmet hit the stem.

Congrats on pulling it off

Chuckie
23-07-2007, 01:58 PM
Only if you pushed off the take off point, landed back wheel first, and head-slapped so hard your helmet hit the stem.

Congrats on pulling it off

cheers mate

nuh landing was pretty smooth, whew

SideFX
24-07-2007, 09:22 PM
Hay Chucki , Good stuff man ,the worst thing you can do on that roll in is mono out of the landing and hit the deck < rock > hard . Have u done the hip/ double after it ? I wanted to tell u the name of the drop before but i thought it better not to .Its name is CASEY JONES .no shite .

Chuckie
24-07-2007, 11:36 PM
Hay Chucki , Good stuff man ,the worst thing you can do on that roll in is mono out of the landing and hit the deck < rock > hard . Have u done the hip/ double after it ? I wanted to tell u the name of the drop before but i thought it better not to .Its name is CASEY JONES .no shite .

yeah hit the doubles after it on sun as well, and the big huck next to 'engine block'

Chuckie
24-07-2007, 11:48 PM
Hay Chucki , Good stuff man ,the worst thing you can do on that roll in is mono out of the landing and hit the deck < rock > hard . Have u done the hip/ double after it ? I wanted to tell u the name of the drop before but i thought it better not to .Its name is CASEY JONES .no shite .

who the fark is "Casey Jones"?

Chuckie
26-07-2007, 01:22 PM
just googled Casey Jones

He was a train driver who was resonsible for a train wreck??

http://www.watervalley.net/users/caseyjones/accident.gif

Chuckie
17-08-2007, 09:28 PM
Ok someone please talk me thru "Engine Block" now

hochiki
19-08-2007, 03:25 PM
What part of the track is the engine block??

kushy
19-08-2007, 04:23 PM
Hey,

I have been to oxford falls and done some pretty big drops/jumps. I am talking about the first pic when i say all you have to do is roll and left up. I was scared to first time i did it(i think i was 14). All u do is get a bit of speed roll and lift. Your bike will do the rest...

Good Luck
Kushy

trouble
19-08-2007, 05:16 PM
Ok someone please talk me thru "Engine Block" now

Well, I have only done part of the engine block (reason=wimp), I'm pretty sure the engine block is made up of these obstacles;
#1.5-2m drop,
#2.5-3m gap jump (crate kicker)

#OR left berm into step up-northshore-drop, through to right hand berm into large drop (3m).

#2.5m gap step down (more of a elongated drop)
#7-8m long berm wallride through too,
#1.5m drop

STEPS
1.The first drop, to get speed follow someone who has done it before and does it smoothly and confidently, when YOU are confident, coast in and drop, hold your position you dont' need to pull up or down, you might pull up a little bit first go.

2.The jump (the bit I haven't done), My friend has done it, I have followed but wimped out each time. According to him,once confident with the drop before;do the drop and go into the kicker, and stop ontop of it, do this a few times, you had to slow down abit, cause you gain a fair bit of speed after the drop, but they have extended the gap so I dont think you need to brake now. Again follow someone who knows their stuff, into it a few times, then once again like the rolla,it's about saying "F@CK IT!,Im just gonna hit it", it's a confidence thing, and do it,the lander is now much wider and smoother,thanks to the great builder's who build this stuff for us. So once confident try it. I def. suggest body armour for this one, (hopefully I will get the balls to try it soon).
--------------------------< OR >---------------------------
2.take the left berm, and try to keep as much speed as possible into it, it is quite difficult to go off the drop and into the berm and keep enough speed for the step up. I have seen a few people who take this line (along with myself) Stop before the start drop and take a more direct route straight into the berm, which I easier,but anyway keep as much speed as possible and hit it,first time pull up a bit, and coast along it to the end maybe put in 2 or 3 pedals and do the drop,lift up again for the drop,then go into the right berm,carry as much speed as possible and lift up a bit and prepar for bottom out! 3m feels like a long way in the air, (for all of this I suggest follwoing someone in on each bit until your confident with the right speed, and then it's up to you and your balls,confidence)

3.After the jump you come up to a E-longated step down,which is more of a drop,but the top of it has a very small kick,so call it drop of step-down. Doesn't matter,go at like a drop, u can carry as much speed as possible but the hard bit is trying not to clip the tree on the right which gets in the way of your handlebars if you take a straight line for the middle of the wallride berm. And also watch pocking up after the drop are a few small tree ends (roots?) but they shouldn't be a problem just keep an eye out for them. I try to carry as much speed as possible dont worry about over clearing it, almost better if you do,shows you have enough speed for the berm wallride. If you come up short watch out,as you need a fair bit of speed for the wallride/berm. Again like the other's just follow a confident rider in after doing the drop then jump, do it,this one isn't hard.

4.Right the wallride berm, NOT HARD (whats after is a bit more) all it is is really ride it like you would ride a flat road,but angle your body and bike a little,carry your speed through, you loose almost ALL of it by the time your at the top of it. You can do it and stop before dropping off it,and try it again ect. (follow a confident rider in again, the actual wallride/berm isn't hard)

5.This bit is tricky,now that you can do it all and your going at this drop, some would consider it large other's migit. It's about only 1.5m The drop doesn't scare me,the lander does,as it angles to the left like by 45 degrees. So when you get to the top of the wallride/berm go at the drop towards the left like as if your landing off a hip jump. I suppose you could call it a hip drop. The lander is quite short which is why speed is important,DONT GO TO FAST,landing to flat wouldn't be funny or I dont think end out to well. I usually have to brake a little bit before the drop and pull up. Then land it and ride away. Last tip is the lander has big tree root to the right of it(watch out for it, and a rock which your tyre might get caught on so aim for the centre of the lander and you should be good!

Hope this helps, and good luck! I know I will want it when I do the jump(done the rest of it)

Chuckie
19-08-2007, 09:09 PM
Ha...Trouble, that was an awesome post mate. Thank you

I am gonna work on #1 first like you said, I am actually suprised that you would find the kicker more daunting than that first drop. That gap to the tranny on the first drop feaks me out a bit, but thinking about it the kicker does have a huge gap to the down ramp as well

By the way, how good is the new wall ride that went up just before engine block?

Those builders are awesome!!

Chuckie
17-09-2007, 12:08 PM
Well, I have only done part of the engine block (reason=wimp), I'm pretty sure the engine block is made up of these obstacles;
#1.5-2m drop,
#2.5-3m gap jump (crate kicker)

#OR left berm into step up-northshore-drop, through to right hand berm into large drop (3m).

#2.5m gap step down (more of a elongated drop)
#7-8m long berm wallride through too,
#1.5m drop

STEPS
1.The first drop, to get speed follow someone who has done it before and does it smoothly and confidently, when YOU are confident, coast in and drop, hold your position you dont' need to pull up or down, you might pull up a little bit first go.

2.The jump (the bit I haven't done), My friend has done it, I have followed but wimped out each time. According to him,once confident with the drop before;do the drop and go into the kicker, and stop ontop of it, do this a few times, you had to slow down abit, cause you gain a fair bit of speed after the drop, but they have extended the gap so I dont think you need to brake now. Again follow someone who knows their stuff, into it a few times, then once again like the rolla,it's about saying "F@CK IT!,Im just gonna hit it", it's a confidence thing, and do it,the lander is now much wider and smoother,thanks to the great builder's who build this stuff for us. So once confident try it. I def. suggest body armour for this one, (hopefully I will get the balls to try it soon).
--------------------------< OR >---------------------------
2.take the left berm, and try to keep as much speed as possible into it, it is quite difficult to go off the drop and into the berm and keep enough speed for the step up. I have seen a few people who take this line (along with myself) Stop before the start drop and take a more direct route straight into the berm, which I easier,but anyway keep as much speed as possible and hit it,first time pull up a bit, and coast along it to the end maybe put in 2 or 3 pedals and do the drop,lift up again for the drop,then go into the right berm,carry as much speed as possible and lift up a bit and prepar for bottom out! 3m feels like a long way in the air, (for all of this I suggest follwoing someone in on each bit until your confident with the right speed, and then it's up to you and your balls,confidence)

3.After the jump you come up to a E-longated step down,which is more of a drop,but the top of it has a very small kick,so call it drop of step-down. Doesn't matter,go at like a drop, u can carry as much speed as possible but the hard bit is trying not to clip the tree on the right which gets in the way of your handlebars if you take a straight line for the middle of the wallride berm. And also watch pocking up after the drop are a few small tree ends (roots?) but they shouldn't be a problem just keep an eye out for them. I try to carry as much speed as possible dont worry about over clearing it, almost better if you do,shows you have enough speed for the berm wallride. If you come up short watch out,as you need a fair bit of speed for the wallride/berm. Again like the other's just follow a confident rider in after doing the drop then jump, do it,this one isn't hard.

4.Right the wallride berm, NOT HARD (whats after is a bit more) all it is is really ride it like you would ride a flat road,but angle your body and bike a little,carry your speed through, you loose almost ALL of it by the time your at the top of it. You can do it and stop before dropping off it,and try it again ect. (follow a confident rider in again, the actual wallride/berm isn't hard)

5.This bit is tricky,now that you can do it all and your going at this drop, some would consider it large other's migit. It's about only 1.5m The drop doesn't scare me,the lander does,as it angles to the left like by 45 degrees. So when you get to the top of the wallride/berm go at the drop towards the left like as if your landing off a hip jump. I suppose you could call it a hip drop. The lander is quite short which is why speed is important,DONT GO TO FAST,landing to flat wouldn't be funny or I dont think end out to well. I usually have to brake a little bit before the drop and pull up. Then land it and ride away. Last tip is the lander has big tree root to the right of it(watch out for it, and a rock which your tyre might get caught on so aim for the centre of the lander and you should be good!

Hope this helps, and good luck! I know I will want it when I do the jump(done the rest of it)

Hey trouble , we did the first drop on Engine block on Sat. You done the kicker yet? If so how did you go?

Derka Derka
18-09-2007, 02:42 PM
Nice work, that must have taken awhile to type out. I do the engine block quite abit as i love the line. What i would add is after you do the drop feather the breaks for the kicker from there on a bit of speed is fun! if you take too much speed onto the upramp/platform u may have to break as you hit it. As i have stuffed this up a few times i generally change into an easier gear before the first drop so that the ramp at the end is easier!! the drop at the end is cool, you may need to practice it a few times to get the angles right....

Anyway the big news BIG NEWS....is that right beside the engine block is a massive new huck line (very similar to the gap except bigger). So go and check it out!! it is fun!!!!!!!

trouble
18-09-2007, 04:12 PM
Nice work, that must have taken awhile to type out. I do the engine block quite abit as i love the line. What i would add is after you do the drop feather the breaks for the kicker from there on a bit of speed is fun! if you take too much speed onto the upramp/platform u may have to break as you hit it. As i have stuffed this up a few times i generally change into an easier gear before the first drop so that the ramp at the end is easier!! the drop at the end is cool, you may need to practice it a few times to get the angles right....

Anyway the big news BIG NEWS....is that right beside the engine block is a massive new huck line (very similar to the gap except bigger). So go and check it out!! it is fun!!!!!!!

yes I did see it,thanks for the reply, and congrats to the oxford builder's once agian made a very high quality obstacle, I went out on the weekend and saw the new stuff, I only did 3 runs,and some slow cause we had a 1st timer firend come with us, but I hit the new wallride before the engine block(must say it is much more easier than it looks and smooth!) I didn't hit the new wooden step-down on the right of the engine block BUT, I will next time, as I figured out later it's the same size as the one lower down in the track! I will be going lots on the holidays and filming a fair bit, here is a vid I finally put together from oxford a little while ago...
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=9TPLIqB3ctw
if you want to download here's the thread....
http://www.farkin.net/forums/showthread.php?t=100005
and I have 2a very recent thread on oxford if you haven't already seen them...
http://www.farkin.net/forums/showthread.php?t=99970

thanks for reply on post,it's good to know it goes to some good

Derka Derka
19-09-2007, 08:11 AM
Man that is old school!!!! Great video!!! just shows how much building is going on.. & the stuff at lizard rock is totally different now, ie skinnys are gone. Actually that would be pretty cool if a new skinny line went in because there really isnt much of that stuff around...ideas!!....ok off to find a hammer

BBQ on sunday at the falls, bring ya own cow i think the boys are saying 2pm??

trouble
19-09-2007, 08:45 AM
Man that is old school!!!! Great video!!! just shows how much building is going on.. & the stuff at lizard rock is totally different now, ie skinnys are gone. Actually that would be pretty cool if a new skinny line went in because there really isnt much of that stuff around...ideas!!....ok off to find a hammer

BBQ on sunday at the falls, bring ya own cow i think the boys are saying 2pm??

would be happy to come if not for 2 reasons...
-blown r.shock
-parents and exams are like nothing else
might be able to come for a short while to film, and build

Chuckie
27-09-2007, 08:26 AM
Guys I am having trouble getting the right speed for the blue crate kicker, I find I am going way too fast off the first drop (worried about not making that gap I guess) and dont have enuff time to brake before the ramp.

Maybe I need to follow someone in, but it happens so quickly after the first drop

trouble
27-09-2007, 09:05 AM
Guys I am having trouble getting the right speed for the blue crate kicker, I find I am going way too fast off the first drop (worried about not making that gap I guess) and dont have enuff time to brake before the ramp.

Maybe I need to follow someone in, but it happens so quickly after the first drop
Are you talking about the jump in Engine Block,after the drop? if so, yes I suggest follow someone in, and maybe just a few times keep trying that first drop each times going a bit slower, and also after the drop and between the kicker for the jump you have to use the brakes(not too much, you dont want to case this jump) good luck

trouble
27-09-2007, 09:06 AM
I will be heading out there next week thursday I think or a bit earlier,I should have my bike back by then. And we could go a for sesh, I will do a bit of filming too,make a small vid.